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Why does former soviet countries produce so many high level chess players?

>> No.10697939

There's a culture of prestige in them.
Why do Asian countries produce so many high level go players? Because they learn it as children and go to academies for it.
Why are so many good hockey players Canadian? Because they play hockey all winter.
Why are there so many fat Americans? Because obesity is seen as desirable in America.

>> No.10697945

>>10697935
Genes obviously. It's always genes.

>> No.10698156

>>10697935
If that is not some random position that the photographer made up, I'd love to know the game that produced it. Rooks still on home squares, doubled f-pawns for Black, missing g-pawn for White, Black's king is on d8, Queen's still on the board, i mean, wtf? Maybe it's bughouse or something.

>> No.10698209

>>10697939
I would also add lack of alternatives. In ex-soviet countries is more difficult to find good video games and chess is a cheap way to spend time. With the money that you save you can buy more vodka.

>> No.10698212

>>10698156
You know you can move towers back to their original spots, right?

>> No.10698231

>>10697939
>Why are there so many fat Americans? Because obesity is seen as desirable in America.
Obesity has never been desirable in America (other than very few pathetic losers who do it for disability pension). Its just shitty food culture where everything is deep fried and laced with high fructose corn syrup and where people drink soft drinks for thirst.

>> No.10698243

>>10698209
are you fucking stupid csgo is literally Russian property

>> No.10698245

nothing else to do in the frozen wasteland

>> No.10698257

>>10698245
you can always wank

>> No.10698261

>>10698212
I sure do, but seeing that the files are open, you wouldn't want to leave an open file just to go back to your starting square in this position. It's just a strange looking board. So maybe a very interesting opening.

>> No.10698293

>>10697935
>Why does former soviet countries produce so many high level chess players?
Because what else was there to do behind the iron curtain besides drink vodka, do heroin, and play chess?

>> No.10698384

>>10698156
chess positions are always fucked up in movies, shows, and stock photos. The directors and photographers show games like this to give the impression of smarts, but their skill only extends to putting glasses on the girl.

(...is what I was originally going to say. But then I searched and found this is WGM Nazi Paikidze. So I guess it is a real position from this game: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1918822))

>> No.10698393

>>10698261
Actually that's a perfectly legit move if you want to defent that pawn or the whole file with the purpose of eventually moving the pawn up the ranks

Also, just the presence of the rook is often times enough of a threat, especially if it's connected to the other rook

>> No.10698509

>>10697935
They're smart and realistic.

>> No.10698656

>>10697939
I think you put one of those statements in there not because you think it is true.

>> No.10698678

>>10697935
First, it was part of the curriculum of every primary school in the USSR. Hence, its success can be partially explained by chess being interwoven in the culture of the Soviet citizen. Second, trainers who were themselves the cream of the crop aided in scouting prodigies and including them in fully facilitated training programs from a very early age. You have to understand that being an elite chess player in the USSR could make you a very easy living; this was not at all the case outside of the USSR.

>> No.10699793

>>10697935
Chess, mathematicians, authors and latex models (source: >>>/s/latex). The connection between these is not obvious.

>> No.10699808

>>10698231
>>10698656
SEETHING ameriniggers

>> No.10699809

>>10698384
Great find, anon! Thanks! Ahh, I guess the white g-pawn was hiding behind the rook from the angle in the picture. That really messed me up.

>> No.10699816

>>10697935
Autistic communist slavic mindset in which playing a classical instrument, speaking multiple languages, being good at chess = smart, accomplished youth.

Cucks don't realize that civilization is all about being a varsity football player or a cheerleader.

>> No.10699820

>>10698243
Vatniks can't actually play any game with serious system requirements.

>> No.10699830

>>10697935
A lv 1 AI chess player could defeat me pretty easily. I played the game using the Fruit engine and couldnt even defeat it at lv 1.

>> No.10699832

>>10697935
They needed to compete with the superficial allure of capitalism and being good at these classical things would signal strength of philosophy. In a truly communistic country the government wouldn't be pushing an agenda and people would play chess for the love of it.

>> No.10699896

I heard somewhere that it was big during the cold war just like the Olympics was. It was a way of proving superiority over USA. So it probably stuck around in the culture.

>> No.10699905

>>10697939
/this. Fpbp. They have special academias for their shit. Russia has a special school only for chess same as every country has special schools for olympia and America has obesity colleges everywhere. Wendy's, Burger Kang...you name it. The top prestige masters often chill at the Walmart Parking Lot Campus to demonstrate their powers to human beings.

>> No.10699921

>>10697935
because communism produces smarter people

>> No.10700049

>>10698156
>>10698384
>>10699809
the vienna IS some fucked up shit tho

>> No.10700054

>>10698209
davay avepe

>> No.10700636

>>10699830
Fruit is a damn good engine. It came second in the world championships one year. Some say its code was even stolen as the basis for Rybka.