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>> No.10669746

Yes

>> No.10669750

>>10669741
Anyone who takes steps towards intellectual qualification has the ability to contribute to whatever field they want. The hard part is having the community accept it. In some communities, this is very natural. CS PhD's contribute to analytic number theory, game theory, and combinatorics all the time in traditional math departments. Math PhD's contributed a lot of algebraic geometry and topological results to CS departments, and vice versa (though at good research schools, the two departments are usually very close / the same department. At my school, they share the same buildings and offices, and often collaborate with another). Research is conducted by bouncing ideas off of each other.

Hell, measure, harmonic analysis, and perturbation theory are now fucking important in theoretical CS research.

>> No.10669751

>>10669741
They can contribute more than computer "scientists" for sure.

>> No.10669758

>>10669751
What do you mean? You mean more than CS PhD's in theory? That's just blatantly false though.
Newsflash: CS PhD and CS undergrad are two different things. People do not come out the other end of the former being code monkeys

>> No.10669763

>>10669751
Incorrect

>> No.10669769

>>10669741
The answer is yes, but what parts OP? AI is sort of bloated and uninteresting experimental research, while AI theory is way more interesting and open. I suggest you join the CS researchers on the latter, because it's more high impact in the long run, legitimizes the experimental research, and it also rounds out the experimental results (which are all based on theoretical models dating back to the 80s, with improvements made incrementally on those models from the 90s onwards)

>> No.10669776

No because scribbling some topological bullshit on a black board will not get any empirical results about efficiency and performance of deep neural networks published.

>> No.10669777

>>10669741
Yeah but you're a frogposter so you automatically contribute nothing to this world

>tl;dr
Off yourself

>> No.10669783

>>10669776
1) https://arxiv.org/abs/1811.01122 lol
2) topology is part of data analysis
3) half of CS research is theory research in CS departments, and that's what drives "empirical results." You of all people should know that those results are driven on theorems and bounds proven by CS PhD's

>> No.10669791

Another question, is it fine to major in mathematics instead of computer science if i might want to go to grad school for CS?

>> No.10669798

>>10669776
Math hard, me no like, bring robot god plz for me

>> No.10669799

>>10669791
Yeah it's fine. Math can be "poured" into any academic field in STEM that has a theory component to it, so you see math undergrads do physics, CS, and engineering grad. I've seen about 5 people do CS undergrad to math grad, so of course anything's possible with the right research, classes, and drive. But generally, math is accepted in most STEM grad programs because the focus is on learning how to become a good thinker.

>> No.10669812

>>10669799
Math be cool yo. I fuck with thoses limits n' sheit. Fuck my ass into form function f(x) = x cubed, ring my prostate around infinity. Make my anal canal a mobius strip of fuck.

>> No.10670118

Not really. Math guys have a sad devotion to a useless ancient religion.

>> No.10670174

Neural networks are just mathematical functions. So surely mathematicians can help come up with better mathematical functions to use in AI.

>> No.10670179

>>10670118
>math is the force

>> No.10670187

>>10669798
>tripfaggot
Into the trash

>> No.10670462

>>10669741
AI researchers don't care about mathematics. They only care about models trained on a 40-year old algorithm that doesn't work, just to improve the state of the art by 0.1% and the results aren't even reproducible because they obtained them by random chance.

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10670498

>>10670187
Show me your resaerch into this "tripfag" concept pleases, you dumb nigger, or are you actually going to provide a decent agreement to this conversation? Get the fuck of sci

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>>10670179
Hail satan? Hail... MATH