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How would you disassemble a star, either to use stellar mass as a resource, or to completely take it apart in order to exponentially extend the time one could gain energy from it by eliminating the waste of energy into the wider universe as solar radiation? How would a star be affected as you siphoned mass off of it? How would vast amounts of stellar mass be stored prior to use? How would it be converted into usable energy or materials?

>> No.10632064

Sounds a lot like one of those projects that consume more energy than they produce.

>> No.10632070

>>10632059
Use magnets. Exploit whatever process makes CMEs.

>> No.10633738

>>10632070
How to store the stellar mass though?

>> No.10634204

>>10633738
In stars?

>> No.10635288

>>10634204
Read the OP

>> No.10635305

>>10632059
Keep making the same thread until you've reached a critical mass, then you can put that in an orbit around the sun, and use it to create an artificial binary partner for the sun that can leach away the external shell of the star on its closest pass.

>> No.10635317
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10635317

>create a swarm of Von Neumann probes with gravity well sufficient enough to strip stellar matter off a star
>use stellar matter to create more Von Neumann probes
>repeat steps 1 and 2 till star is no more
>move onto next star till there are no more left and you can proclaim "I destroyed a universe!!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TW10sZP6Io

Why don't we have more shows like Lexx? It was ahead of it's time.

>> No.10635335
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10635335

>How would you disassemble a star.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_lifting
>How would a star be affected as you siphoned mass off of it?
If you are smart about it you first take off the "pollutants" which are heavy elements such as Iron. Only put back the hydrogen to make the star more efficient and last longer. What would happen with a star if you did that is that it would slowly shrink down to becoming a red dwarf and then a brown dwarf and eventually it'll just be a gas giant. Every stage has an exponentially longer lifespan.
>How would vast amounts of stellar mass be stored prior to use?
The most efficient way would be to store it within a supermassive black hole if preventing entropy is your goal. If you're a low-tech species then storing them all into artificial gas giants is also an option.
>How would it be converted into usable energy or materials?
Depending on how advanced your technology is you could use the hydrogen and helium from the stars to fuel nuclear fusion reactors. A more advanced species would use matter+anti-matter annihilation. The most advanced species would throw all matter in a supermassive black hole and use the hawking radiation that gets emitted to power their civilization.

>> No.10636628

>>10635335
How much longer?

>> No.10637208

>>10635317
Lexx? Never heard of it.

>> No.10637225

>>10637208
imagine if a hard core porn producer, suddenly wanted to to start producing hard science fiction show instead, but instead ended up creating a soft core porn scifi series that went on for 4 seasons
You may or may not have notice the subtle sexual imagery in previous pic. That was not accidental. In Lexx almost every scene has some sexual undertone in one form or another hidden in it.

>> No.10638972

bumping

>> No.10639326

>>10632059
based star disassemble poster

>> No.10639337

>>10632059
You'd have to find a way to negate gravity.

>> No.10639707

>>10639326
More based star making posters?

>> No.10640139

>>10639707
Stay on topic.

>> No.10640146

>>10632059
Use Star Lifting.

>> No.10640217

>>10633738
mason jar

>> No.10640322

>>10637225
Hidden?? The actors were in latex and spandex, hardly subtle even by US standards.

>> No.10641510

>>10640322
What are you talking about?

>> No.10641661
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10641661

>>10635317
>the Virgin Lexx vs the Chad Farscape
Straya's ONE saving grace.

>> No.10642545

>>10640322
Do I want to know?

>> No.10642569

>>10632064
That's every project.

>> No.10643552

>>10642569
What project?

>> No.10645042

>>10639337
Really?

>> No.10646330

>>10637225
How did we start talking about this?

>> No.10646363

>>10632059
>How would you disassemble a star, either to use stellar mass as a resource, or to completely take it apart in order to exponentially extend the time one could gain energy from it by eliminating the waste of energy into the wider universe as solar radiation?
Figure out a way to get at the delicious core? I mean we're basically talking about a gigantic fuckin' fusion reactor right? Go for the guts, not the burning shit on the outside. It's too volatile to fuck with.

>> No.10646371

>>10632059
>Why make a nuclear fusion reactor when you can just split a star.

Genius.

>> No.10646382
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10646382

>>10646371
>stellar fracking
What could go wrong?

>> No.10646385

>>10632059
Dyson rod, followed by gravity wells on the outside to transport the fuel. Genuinely excited about this idea because it could make Mars or other planets habitable.

>> No.10646391

>>10632059
>How would vast amounts of stellar mass be stored prior to use?

Dyson rods, gravity wells, then store the captured stars in miniature dyson spheres for transportation.

>> No.10646398
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10646398

>>10646382
Could this really happen?

>> No.10646403

>>10646391
The smallest star is 1000th the size of our sun.
Can a star exist in space even smaller than that? Wouldn't it just become a brown dwarf at that size?
Can a brown dwarf be drawn from instead?

>> No.10646407

>>10646403
With a gravity well, it would look like something out of Dead Space's Convergence Event.
Anything in the path of it just goes "slurp".

>> No.10647665

>>10646398
What is this?

>> No.10647734

>>10635288
Use the mass to make another star.

>> No.10647736

what would happen if you created two large massive objects on either side of it and pulled it apart. Could you create enough distortion in gravity to eliminate the reaction?

>> No.10648769

>>10647734
How would you shove two stars together?

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10648779

>>10632059
>mounts of stellar mass be stored prior to use? How would it be converted into usable energy or mater

Why not recreate one? You can recreate a star under proper conditions. First step: throw away the fusion core model (conventional) and adopt the electric Birkeland Sun. It reflects reality such as the heavy elements that are present in the core. Keep an eye on the SAFIRE project. https://safireproject.com/

>> No.10648803

>>10648779
fuck off pseud

>> No.10648813

>>10647736
stars are giant nuclear explosions which are kept from exploding apart from their own massive gravity wells. If you were to negate a stars gravity with 2 large objects, the star would go supernova

>> No.10649802

>>10646391
Dyson rods?

>> No.10650945

>>10648779
What's this, then?

>> No.10651863

>>10632059
Where's the OP pic from?

>> No.10653123

>>10651863
Star Wars, I think.

>> No.10653285

>>10651863
see that little triangle that's attached to every post?
click one in a post that's got an image, and try "Image Search"

>> No.10653613

>>10653285
Thanks!

>> No.10655097

bumping you up!

>> No.10655121

>>10646382
who gives a damn, we wouldn't frack _our_ star (NIMBY on the galactic scale)

>> No.10655982

>>10635317
Black hole?

>> No.10657140

>>10655121
What?