what's the status quo regarding Coffee/Caffeine?

[Anonymous No.10618682]

is it the ultimate mild cognitive enhancer?

increasing your processing speed?

or does it have deleterious effect that people are not aware of?

[Anonymous No.10618698]

>>10618682
No it's a meme
It's made to give you the shits
The feeling of getting the shits increases your alertness and triggers fight or flight

[Anonymous No.10619162]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee#Health_effects

In 2012, the National Institutes of Health–AARP Diet and Health Study analysed the relationship between coffee drinking and mortality. They found that higher coffee consumption was associated with lower risk of death, and that those who drank any coffee lived longer than those who did not.

A 2014 meta-analysis found that coffee consumption (4 cups/day) was inversely associated with all-cause mortality (a 16% lower risk), as well as cardiovascular disease mortality specifically (a 21% lower risk from drinking 3 cups/day)

Additional meta-analysis studies corroborated these findings, showing that higher coffee consumption (2–4 cups per day) was associated with a reduced risk of death by all disease causes

[Anonymous No.10619167]

>>10618682
coffee is one of the most addictive, least effective nootropics. Use modafinil or piracetam.

[Anonymous No.10619177]

>>10619162
Ayo hol up, by drinking 12 cups a day I will gain immortality?

[Anonymous No.10619193]

Hardly has any effects on intelligent people. I can drink it and go to sleep. I stopped years ago and haven't noticed much of a difference. I'll drink some every once and a while but it still doesn't do anything for me.

[Anonymous No.10619201]

>>10619162
Did they account for the seemingly likely scenario that people with heart issues probably wouldn't want to drink a lot of coffee to avoid palpitations and whatnot?

In fact, if you've got heart symptoms or even anxiety, your doctor might tell you to avoid coffee.

[Anonymous No.10619206]

>>10619162
studies funded by coffee companies.

[Anonymous No.10619292]

>>10619193
hmm one of my really smart friends also said this

if they don't need coffee then neither should i, but the withdrawal is a pain

[Anonymous No.10619310]

>>10619177
maybe

[Anonymous No.10619311]

Barely any effect on me unless I go cold turkey for like five days, or if I pound two yerba mates. If I have even a cup of tea while I’m on adderall it makes me irritable and mentally fried for the whole day so I have to b me careful anyways. I really just drink coffee for the warmth, routine, and flavor (provided, of course, one uses the King’s Mixture: no sugar, lots of cream)

[Anonymous No.10619481]

>>10618682
I get to work in just stare at code until the coffee kicks in and I get shit done. Maybe it's placebo or dependence at this point, but I wouldn't say it's a meme.

[Anonymous No.10619498]

>>10618682
It's not a cognitive enhancer, it just makes you want to do things

[Anonymous No.10619506]

>>10618682
coffee is indeed a meme
as you keep drinking it on a daily basis you develop tolerance to it which means you need higher doses each time to get its effects till its just too unhealthy to keep drinking
it takes between 4~7 days for your body to reset your tolerance to coffee, only till then you will start feeling its effects again

[Anonymous No.10619587]

>>10618682
my coffee addiction was so bad that i ended up sucking dick outside starbucks just so i could keep my buzz going.

[Anonymous No.10619598]

>>10619162

Isn't the nature of this data correlational?

[Anonymous No.10619600]

>>10618682
DID YOU EVER HEAR OF SOMEONE SUCKING DICK FOR COFFEE. I HAVENT.
-BOB FAGET

[Anonymous No.10619626]

>>10618682
I think there was a study that showed caffeine enhances your performance on tests during non-optimal times of the day

[Anonymous No.10620750]

>>10618682
It's makes some people stressed and anxious, but still they cannot stop drinking it because it's very addictive. Stress killz guys.

[Anonymous No.10620761]

>>10619193
It's not intelligence that makes coffee negligible. It's autism.

[Anonymous No.10620767]

Can anyone explain this shit to me:

If I have a cup of coffee in the morning, later on in the day (think really later on... 6-10 PM), I always begin to feel the onset of some sort of panic attack. I start feeling heart palpitations and shortness of breath. However, if I have an energy drink (redbull, monster, whatever) in the morning in place of the coffee I feel perfectly fine all day, and sleep like a baby.

What could cause this?? It's something I've observed since I was in high school (nearing 30 y/o boomer status now), which is why I've always made it a point to avoid coffee.

[Anonymous No.10620784]

>>10620761
>It's not intelligence that makes coffee negligible. It's autism.
True for many autists, but not all. Some autists are hypersensitive to it, including myself. Some find coffee is nice but probably for other reasons than normies. Schizos, bipolars etc. love coffee because it can make them hypomanic. When blood concentration of caffeine is on the rise you feel a dopamine rush. Lotsa coffee gives that lovely stressed out chaotic feeling that creatives like.

[Anonymous No.10620859]

>>10620767
i have this too

[Anonymous No.10620870]

>>10619193
Highly doubt that the caffeine metabolizing gene has any direct impact on cerebral development. It could however, allow you to exploit some benefits of the substance, if any actually exist at all that is.

[Anonymous No.10620872]

>>10619193
r/iamverysmart

[Anonymous No.10621107]

>>10620767
I am not an expert, but it could be a problem of assumption: basically caffeine absorption in the brain cells does not follow a linear path, but a more spiked and gradual one. L-theanine is a chemical found in tea (especially green tea) that stabilizes that "path" of absorption, which is also the reason why in most focus supplements they are used together.
To sum up, if your brain is so retarded to absorb caffeine so late after the assumption you are gonna get a "spike" and feel the entire power and side-effects of caffeine in a shorter period of time

[Anonymous No.10621550]

>>10619177
science proved it

[Anonymous No.10621552]

>>10620872
cringe
time to go back, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10621553]

>>10619598
/sci/ 101:

correlation =/= causation

[Anonymous No.10621564]

>>10620767
Monster = fuck-loads of sugar + caffeine
Coffee = caffeine

All the sugar from Monster (or other) is giving you sugar crash, making you lethargic, tired, and able to sleep. Coffee doesn't have this sugar, so you're just left with the caffeine withdrawal.

[Anonymous No.10621596]

Can coffee be used to help/treat OCD at all? I read that 3 cups a coffee a day can lower depression and I know taken with L-theanine it can help anxiety which is similar to OCD.

[Anonymous No.10621607]

>>10621596
Interesting idea. Why don't you try? I do not have OCD, but I have lot's obsessions due to autism (diagnosed). I become more careless when I drink a lot of coffee, but my work suffers from it.

[Anonymous No.10621619]

>>10621607
Yeah I may have to give it a try. I currently only drink 1 cup a day with L-theanine.

[Anonymous No.10621754]

>>10621553
this

[Anonymous No.10621821]

>>10618698
Interesting

[Anonymous No.10622874]

Personal experience:

I can't focus on work at all (not diagnosed add), but after 200mg of caffeine I can get right into the flow for 3-4 hours 75% of the time. Works better if I eat carbs along with it.

I am fairly addicted, having switched to pure caffeine powder several years ago. I'll straight up eat a scoop of the substance and flush it down with water first thing in the morning. It gives me a rush of positivity and I welcome that in my otherwise uncomfortable headspace.

[Anonymous No.10623047]

>>10621596
Don't try self medicating with it. Stimulants are shown to paradoxically help with anxiety disorders sometimes but the type of stimulant and the dosages are too discrete to self dose with caffeine juice.

[Anonymous No.10623051]

>>10619292

My pinky finger twitched for a week after i got off caffeine pills

[Anonymous No.10623053]

>>10619201
Coffee isn't entirely caffeine. Decaf also helps, although somewhat less, but heart problem people are allowed and, excluding the most serious cases, recommended to drink one regular and as many decaf as they like.

[Anonymous No.10623184]

>>10618682
spiders make terrible webs on caffeine. caffeine activates the flight or flight response and pulls blood away from your skin which makes you age to go to your internal organs and increases your heart rate. humans have a finite amount if heart beats in their life

[Anonymous No.10623196]

>>10623184
>humans have a finite amount if heart beats in their life

Perhaps the worst thing that has ever been said on /sci/. This is complete bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10623199]

>>10619162
>be luxury good and stimulant
>the relatively wealthy drink more of you
>heh, there's no way my health benefits are an illusion!

On the internet no one knows you're a coffee farmer.

[Anonymous No.10623201]

one cup a morning for me (two around finals). whenever i'm on break i drink only decaf because i still like the taste. i run nearly every morning and dont have any coffee until after i've run and showered. perfect morning routine if you ask me

[Anonymous No.10623203]

>>10623184
I don't know if it's possible to make a post more retarded than this

[Anonymous No.10623206]

>>10623184
caffeine affects humanly differently in that it doesn't completely disable/kill us. it's a pesticide that affects us differently

[Anonymous No.10623314]

>>10620872
Never post this shit again, and if you have any history of being in that low IQ herd mentality website you should fuck off this one

[Anonymous No.10623377]

>>10623184
Wondering how that is administered.

[Anonymous No.10623381]

>>10620767
Having coffee later in the day makes it harder to sleep correctly

[Anonymous No.10623426]

>>10620870
There are benefits, caffeine is one of the few things you can consume to completely negate being tired.
Drinking caffeine will not only stimulate you with stamina, but will also block receptors that make you tired, essentially making tiredness impossible, and only limiting you to shit like running so much you can't keep up anymore or overthinking something so much that you go into sensory overload.
Great substance, however more than that it won't really make you process shit faster.

[Anonymous No.10623430]

>>10620767
Depends on how your brain absorbs caffeine.
If it does so slowly, then you're gonna feel a sudden spike, if it does so at a relatively fast pace then it's gonna keep on working for a while.

[Anonymous No.10623455]

>>10623377
A cotton swab was soaked in whatever chemical and rubbed on the spider.

[Anonymous No.10623459]

>>10623199
>work with a guy from columbia
>he goes back home for a family wedding
>brings me back a few bags of the super premo juan valdez reserve shit they only sell in country
>it was still cheaper than a generic blend from the store
If it wasn't the perfect color for a K&R scenario I'd fucking live there.

[Anonymous No.10623542]

Can someone explain this to me. If I don't have any coffee a long time to the point where I'm no longer dependent/no withdrawals, I feel very hyperactive. I just want to go outside and run, play a sport, etc. I'm bursting with energy, yet I can't sit down for too long/read/study or I get restless.

If I drink coffee, it's the opposite. Rather than having a lot of physical energy, I get mental energy. I can easily sit down and read or do something more productive. Coffee usually gives people energy but it calms me down.

Is it because I have ADHD or something? If I didn't drink coffee, I would want to become an athlete. But when I do, I want to do something more productive.

[Anonymous No.10624917]

>>10623459
IT'S FUCKING COLOMBIA WITH O NOT COUMBIA YOU FUCKING BUMD MUTT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.10625145]

>>10624917
A simple mistake.. calm down.

[Anonymous No.10625151]

>>10618682
Is caffeine really all that addictive? I was able to quit it after drinking it in large quantities for decades. Withdraw wasn't pleasant but not life changing or anything like that. Makes me want to try coke or heroin to see if I can quit that as easily.

[Anonymous No.10625263]

>>10619162
>associated with
wew lad

[Anonymous No.10625265]

>>10619177
Yes. Also checked.

[Anonymous No.10625270]

>>10620872
To go back, you must.

[Anonymous No.10625271]

>>10623459
>columbia
kys

[Anonymous No.10625361]

>>10619206
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/top-13-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-coffee#section1
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/why-is-coffee-good-for-you#section1
>https://www.chaosandpain.com/tips/tips-coffee-elixir-of-the-gods/
>https://mealpreponfleek.com/5-surprising-things-you-didnt-know-about-caffeine/
>https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/coffee-facts-things-you-didn-t-know-about-coffee
>https://www.anabolicmen.com/caffeine-testosterone/
>http://sci-fit.net/2017/collection-supplement-vitamin-studies/#Caffeine
>https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-03/eaou-sic031519.php
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

[Anonymous No.10625384]

>>10618698
But, I stopped getting the shits from it long ago.
Actually, kids sad, because that was really useful sometimes - more efficient defecation.

[Anonymous No.10625386]

>>10625151
I find caffeine to be more addictive than nicotine. While I never was addicted to opioids in a recreational sense, never found them enjoyable, but was prescribed them for a period, I abruptly discontinued and withdrew from them. Unpleasant but I found it more bareable, preferable even, to the relentless pounding headache of caffeine withdrawal.

[Anonymous No.10625420]

>>10620767
Most energy drinks contain about a gram of taurine, which is an anxiolytic that smoothes out the edges of caffeine.
You can buy the powder in bulk for cents per gram and put in your coffee. Pure bliss.

[Anonymous No.10626612]

a boy the kiid

[Anonymous No.10626656]

>>10618682
>enhancer
as someone who used to drink black coffee all day, I can tell you my thought are a hell of a lot clearer now that I've quit it for a while.

[Anonymous No.10626658]

>>10619177

[Anonymous No.10626671]

>>10618682
Possible short term memory impairment
>Findings are inconsistent, as many effects of caffeine sometimes impair short-term and working memory, whereas the other studies indicate enhancing effects. ... However, the research consensus indicates an inhibitory effect, reducing the capacity of our short-term memory and working memory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_caffeine_on_memory

[Anonymous No.10626701]

>>10625420
>taurine
what else does it do? redpill me on taurine

[Anonymous No.10626733]

>drink (black) coffee all day every day
>from the moment I wake up to even 3AM
>build a huge tolerance so I can still go to bed and sleep
>but feel my heartrate being way fast and more powerful, even while in bed
that last thing freaked me out, so I quit entirely.

[Anonymous No.10626743]

>>10623184
>humans have a finite amount if heart beats in their life
this is such fucking bullshit
also:
>implying humans will react the same to substances as a fucking insect

[Anonymous No.10626749]

>>10623426
>Drinking caffeine will not only stimulate you with stamina, but will also block receptors that make you tired, essentially making tiredness impossible
this is bullshit, even after I've had my 3 cups of coffee at 3AM I can sleep.

[Anonymous No.10626754]

>>10623542
I have ADHD and this is also how it works with me.

I'm:
>>10626733
>>10626749

[Anonymous No.10626758]

>>10625361
>these websites
could you no find 1 credible source?