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What are some scientific facts that sound like they should be false but are actually true?

>> No.10617688

>>10617683
animals have conscious experiences

>> No.10617691

>>10617688
>animals have conscious experiences
define "conscious"

>> No.10617702

There is a correlation between Alzheimer's disease and poor dental hygiene. The bacteria in your mouth could possibly enter your brain and destroy your neurons

>> No.10617704

We have no idea how dolomite forms

>> No.10617705

>>10617683
Only 5-10% of the population is gay yet OP is always a faggot.

>> No.10617706

>>10617688
nigga define conscious
I can say panpsychism with integrated information theory

>> No.10617708

>>10617704
Evidence of claim?

>> No.10617717

>>10617683
race does exist

>> No.10617723

We can't completely explain how bicycles are as stable as they are.

>> No.10617726

>>10617683
Lightning is still a scientific mystery in 2019

>> No.10617729

>>10617683
Cell biologists have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, coarse grained explanations and nothing else and its like this all the way down to the most important functions.

>> No.10617768

>>10617702
Yes, I'm sure that is the way the causation goes.
>>10617691
>>10617706
Is there any reason to believe they are not?
>>10617708
Explain it then.

>> No.10617785

>>10617723
We can you dimwit.

>> No.10617787

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect

Hot water can freeze faster than cold water.
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10617804

>>10617726
this.
ball lighting especially...

the fact that it tends to be a MUCH more common occurrence around historically important places/events/people.... almost as if ball lightning has an abstract 'human like' consciousness, and is 'interested' in our lives for some reason.

sounds /x/ as shit, but time travelers or ghosts are the two best explanations for ball lightning.
they are coming back to view, record, or possibly change historically important events from their timeline.

i believe ball lightning is probably us from the future.... we simply are not advanced enough to understand it yet.. (it would be like driving a tesla up to a termite mound and trying to explain to them how the autopilot function works).

very spooky shit, and one of the big reasons why i am not 100% atheist yet.

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10617807

>>10617804
>time travelers or ghosts are the two best explanations for ball lightning.

yup, those are obviously the two most likely explanations that every sane person would conclude.

>> No.10617808

>>10617804
This post is easy to explain tho. It is called anthropomorphism.

>> No.10617813

>>10617807
when ball lightning appears inches away from a famous russian tsar's hand, and seems to follow WW2 bombers for hours, leaving, then returning multiple times throughout the night... i have to assume it is not just a natural phenomenon.

why does ball lightning not randomly jump around like the oil droplet in pilot wave experiments?, or instantly move towards the object with the highest electric potential?

why does it sometimes 'follow' people for HOURS, keeping at a distance, but other times it is easily able to kill one or more people within seconds of appearing?

>> No.10617822

>>10617683
>Vaccines have absolutely no side effects, none whatsoever
It's much harder prove something doesn't exist that it is to prove that it does exist.

>> No.10617824

>>10617813
> i have to assume it is not just a natural phenomenon.
You just keep confirming this post >>10617808

You also may want to consider the fact that claims of ball lightning like UFO's has fallen massively since mobile phone cameras have become ubiquitous - which is the opposite effect you'd expect for real phenomena. They were rare before that time, now it's pretty much non-existent.

>> No.10617833

>>10617683

A cat’s penis is covered in sharp barbs. It helps to anchor the cat cock inside and prevent the female cat from escaping during intercourse.

>> No.10617835

>>10617833
On this topic the statement "I don't have an std those are completely benign vestigial barbs don't worry about it" is true but it certainly sounds like a lie.

>> No.10617844

>>10617824
The /x/ explanation is that it is actually what you would expect from time travelers, because there is little reason to trvel into times that are so well documeted.

>> No.10617847

>>10617833
I learned this from looking at various anatomically correct cub porn.

>> No.10617850

>>10617787
Incorrect. Hot water can freeze faster than cold water when the two samples are heated differently.

>> No.10617868

>>10617804

Wasnt it recently captured on video in China?

>> No.10617870

>>10617683
The moon is made out of cheese

>> No.10617882

>>10617702

its atherosclerosis of the brain...same reason why populations who eat more plant based diets have lower rates of alzhiemers.

>> No.10617884

>>10617705
Not that surprising. Everyone on Grindr is a faggot too.

>> No.10617897
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10617897

>>10617702
>correlation between Alzheimer's disease and poor dental hygiene
This

"Long-term gum disease linked to Alzheimer's disease"
>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-alzheimers-gum-disease-idUSKCN1AX2F0

>Chronic gum inflammation, known as periodontitis, is associated with an increased risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease, researchers from Taiwan report.

>Chronic periodontitis, a leading cause of tooth loss, is also associated with increases in markers of inflammation throughout the body. Some recent studies have suggested that chronic periodontitis might contribute to a decline in thinking ability, the authors note in Alzheimer’s Research and Therapy.

>Dr. Yu-Chao Chang’s team from Chung Shan Medical University in Taichung City used data from Taiwan’s National Health Insurance Research Database to examine whether patients age 50 or older with chronic periodontitis had an increased risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease.

>They found no overall link between periodontitis and Alzheimer’s, but people who had the chronic gum inflammation for 10 or more years were 70 percent more likely than people without periodontitis to develop Alzheimer’s disease.

>The link between long-term periodontitis and Alzheimer’s was present even after researchers adjusted for other factors that might influence the development of Alzheimer’s, such as heart disease, stroke, diabetes and urban environment.

>> No.10618415

>>10617768
Rat studies and autopsies have shown the same bacteria present in the mouth infecting the brain in alzheimers patients. The rat studies have also shown that rats who already have poor dental health tend to develop alzheimers at far higher rates. They have already covered your doubts on the causality many times over in different experiments.

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10618426

>>10617688

Based and my favorite depression/"blackpill" meme.

There is no significant difference between humans and animal brains and conciousness beyond the level of social ability and intellect. There is no reason to assume that any living creature, with at the very least a CNS, does not experience life in the same way you do. They have emotions and cognitive experiences, they are just much stupider and unable to communicate then humans.

If you think about this logically, that means billions upon billions of individual creatures are born, live, suffer, and die purely for the pursuit of survival, with no hope of even communicating or understanding their situation. Every living being is the result of their instincts the same as humans.

>> No.10618430

>>10617683
Some humans can train themselves to manually control body temperature

>> No.10618455

>>10617683
theory of evolution

>> No.10618475

>>10617768
>Is there any reason to believe they are not?
There’s no reason to believe they are
In fact, there’s little reason to believe any human other than yourself innately feels quaila and subjective experience
It has no clear evolutionary purpose despite clearly being an deeply complicated trait. There is nothing a sentient being can do that a non-sentient copy couldn’t do just as well. Thought, memory, computation, those are all attributable to physical events in the brain. Conscious experience of those phenomena is not, at least that we know of.

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10618518

>>10618475
>There is nothing a sentient being can do that a non-sentient copy couldn’t do just as well.
Consciousness is the brain actively working. You cannot have one without the other.

>It has no clear evolutionary purpose despite clearly being an deeply complicated trait.
You are applying your human morales to nature. Nothing about sentience needs to be deep or complex- you are projecting your values onto it.

>> No.10618558

>>10617702
It's not the bacteria themselves. It's your body's reaction to them building plaque seemingly causing Alzheimer's.

>> No.10618559

>>10617785
Wrong. Look it up. Some Dutch (I think) scientists built a bicycle with inversely moving wheels to cancel out the torque that is always used as an explanation. It was still stable.

>> No.10618573

>>10617822
Vaccines have well known side effects, the most serious tend to be the rarest though.

>> No.10618584

>>10617683
There are infinite genders

>> No.10618588

>>10617822
>What is pandermrix
>What are vaccine derived polio outbreaks

>> No.10618592

The Earth is flat

>> No.10618599

>>10617683
you can create entire universes out of nothing, without violating conservation of energy, and once this process begins it is self-sustaining

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation

>> No.10618604

>>10618588
>implying functionality means there are no harmful side-effects
Chemotherapy stops cancer,
does that mean that the patient will be completely fine after it?
No they will get chemo brain and turn into a brainlet like you.

>> No.10618608

>>10618518
>Consciousness is the brain actively working. You cannot have one without the other.
What the fuck do you mean? How can you possibly know that?
What distinction is there between a human mind and a computer, then? Are computers sentient? Is an analog computer sentient? Are logic circuits sentient? Is a single XOR hate sentient? Are formal systems sentient? Are ant colonies sentient? Is an abacus sentient? Is a computer some geek builds with red stone in minecraft sentient?
Intelligence/computation is completely separate from consciousness, they are different phenomena.

>> No.10618612

>>10617683
Fractals have non-integer dimensions

>> No.10618638

>>10617688
By the Copernican principle, we should just consider ourselves as a randomly picked conscious observer from the set of all possible observers. If animals were conscious, the probability that you should find yourself as a human observer is very low. So what’s more probable, the extremely unlikely event of your consciousness emerging in a human or that animals aren’t conscious observers

>> No.10618668

>>10618426
How were you able to access the mind of an animal?

>> No.10618673

>>10618518
That's an assertion. Assertions are not science.

>> No.10618681

>>10617804

I read these posts back to everybody in my department and we laugh at you.

>> No.10618683

>>10617702
>>10617882
>>10618558

Fugg, I only brush my teeth like twice a week...

>> No.10618687

>>10618638
>assume I'm right
>what's more likely, that I'm right or not?

>> No.10618691

>>10618475
>It has no clear evolutionary purpose despite clearly being an deeply complicated trait. There is nothing a sentient being can do that a non-sentient copy couldn’t do just as well. Thought, memory, computation, those are all attributable to physical events in the brain. Conscious experience of those phenomena is not, at least that we know of.

There would be nothing to program this computer without consciousness.

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10618710

47 degree Scottish mason
100 degree Egyptian mason

>> No.10618716

>>10617683
By all know laws of aviation the bumblebee should not be able to fly -Jerry Seinfeld

>> No.10618721

>>10617683
Chiral tippe tops stand up when spun counterclockwise but not clockwise

>> No.10618725

>>10617683
Local realism is false -Bell's theorem. I.E. the chair in the other room is not there when you aren't there.

>> No.10618737

The blue whale is the largest animal to ever exist.

>> No.10618762

>>10618737
This one does blow my mind every time I think of it.

>> No.10618787

>>10618737
Your 400000+ lbs atomic devouring gut says otherwise.

>> No.10618789

>>10617705
Insane to think 10% of our population is confirmed mentally unstable.

>> No.10618790

>>10617785
No, we really can't.

>> No.10618800

>>10618638
The real spooky implication with your assumption is that if the human race continues to exist, even at zpg, then there should be far more people yet to be born then there have been people who are alive, making your existence here and now, and not 10,000 years in the future where the human race numbers in the trillions across multiple planets, orbital habitats, interstellar drift colonies, comet farms, asteroid miners, and geoformers with the spectrum of existence ranging from post-human genetic manipulation, to cybernetic enhancements, to digital consciousness, etc. So the odds of you being alive here and now are astronomically low assuming the entire human race isn't wiped out inside a few generations.

>> No.10618826

>>10618800
Why is this argument incorrect?

>> No.10618845

>>10617683
We just don't know what birds are.

>> No.10618878

>>10618683
>not brushing thrice a day
You bongs are savages.

>> No.10618912

>>10618790

Holy shit, we indeed cant (or can, but its complex):

https://www.nature.com/news/the-bicycle-problem-that-nearly-broke-mathematics-1.20281

>> No.10618950

Despite being 13%...

>> No.10618965

>>10618950
MOOOOOOOOODS!!! ANON IS BEING RACIST AGAIN

>> No.10618985

>>10618845
Birds>Dinos>Reptiles>Amphibians>Fish
We can trace them all the way down to Kingdom Protist.

>> No.10618999

>>10618950
kek

>> No.10619444

You don't exist.

>> No.10619449
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10619449

Sexism is not the reason women underperform in science

>> No.10619453

>>10617683
Niggers are fucking retarded. I know it sounds crazy but it's true.

>> No.10620855

>>10619453
Okay this post is hilarious! Thanks for all the laughs

>> No.10621002

>>10618638
What the fuck does this even mean?
Is this supposed to convince people that animals aren't conscious?
Are you saying since the ego that sprouted in your body that grew into what you now consider "you" is somehow "unlikely" and so therefore the same occurrence doesn't happen to animals?
What, is there some sort of handful of consciousnesses in the ether that are stuffed into meat sacks and you think the fact you ended up as a human somehow makes it clear they can't end up in animals?

>> No.10621065

>>10618638
Your argument is flawed because if you were a different animal, you wouldn't have the mental capacity to ponder this question.

>> No.10621109

>>10618638
Why not go one step further, and say that the probability that I happen to be /me/ out of a hundred billion humans is unlikely so it's probably true that most people are p-zombies

>> No.10621113

The Democratic Republic of the Congo isn't the largest country in Africa

>> No.10621462

>>10618426
humans have OBEs and other experiences. other animals dont have religion

>> No.10621466

>>10617683
some adults can remember to near infancy

i am one of them

>> No.10621474

>>10621002
I think you've misconstrued it completely. I just applied the principle in the same way it is done in similar thought experiments and said that if there are 80 billion animal observers, the probability of your consciousness emerging in a human appears to be 8.6%. Except we also have to enter all the animals that have lived and will live into the equation, and we can see the probability now starts to approach 0%. It's similar to where the Doomsday Argument mentioned in >>10618800 comes from

>>10618826
It's unresolved, not incorrect
>This argument has generated a lively philosophical debate, and no consensus has yet emerged on its solution.
Assuming mediocrity also gives problems like why we as observers find ourselves so early in the lifespan of our universe and, most worryingly, the ratio between Boltzmann brains and and normal brains from evolution. Perhaps it simply isn't as intuitive as that we should reason that we are a randomly picked observer from the set of all possible observers, but that rejects the Copernican principle and begins to look like religion

>>10621065
Yeah I considered this as well as I typed it and I think it does actually make the question about which one is more probable unfair. It would still mean we are exceedingly lucky though

>> No.10621475

>>10617683
God is real.

>> No.10621490

>>10621109
My thoughts precisely. It seems more likely that anything that behaves like us is consciously like us, otherwise humans are some weird special case, which is unlikely.

>> No.10621495

>>10618878
Bongs have far better dental hygiene than Americans.

>> No.10621905

Dinosaurs never really died, they just became birds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_birds

>> No.10621916

>>10621905
Insects were fish

>> No.10621919

>>10617683
>What are some scientific facts that sound like they should be false but are actually true?

The solid form of water is actually less dense than the liquid form. Name any other substance with this property.

>> No.10621932

>>10617683
Lasers can be used to beam energy that cools things down.

>> No.10621952

who /flosseveryday/ here??

>> No.10621957

>>10621916
That one isn't true. Arthropods predate fish.

>> No.10621959

>>10621919
Water is genuinely the spookiest substance in nature.
It should not exist

>> No.10621962

with big flu outbreaks you sometimes end up with more infected vaccinated people than infected unvaccinated people

>> No.10621965

Large scale convection currents actually form structures similar to logic gates.
There is a chance that there is a sun or hot gas giant out there that actually functions as a computer via entirely natural processes. This can even lead to a rudimentary intelligence

>> No.10621975

>>10618737
Hunh, really thought it'd be a dinosaur. Weird.

>> No.10621995

>>10621462
you could argue that is because of the higher levels of intellect found in human.

>> No.10622038

>>10621962
That isn’t really spooky if most of the population gets the vaccination and the vaccine targeted the wrong strains.

>> No.10622051

>>10617683
ur mom gay lol

>> No.10622071

>>10621965
>Large scale convection currents actually form structures similar to logic gates.
How so?

>> No.10622085

>>10618430
Wim Hof is legit.

>> No.10622135

>>10617683
depression is heavily indicative of low IQ, not high
this goes for nearly all mental illnesses, save for shizoids and a few others.

>> No.10622138

>>10618681
Good. Now back to your post, wagie. Up and at em.

>> No.10622322

>>10621952
Who /rubberglovelicker/?

>> No.10622356

We are milliseconds behind our thoughts in time.

>> No.10622380

>>10622356
This. If you want a real trip, try narrating your thought process in real time

>> No.10622418

There are 16 defunct natural nuclear fission reactors in the African country Gabon.

>> No.10622446

>>10622418
>natural fission on surface
I always wondered if fusion can occur in the Earths core. If it does, wouldn't that mean the Earth is a naturally occurring Dyson sphere? Could you call it a dyson sphere even if it's only fission in the Earth's core?

>> No.10622482

>>10617683
the holocaust didn't happen. the allies bombed supply lines to work camps and the people inside dies of starvation and disease. also there were nowhere near 6mil.

>> No.10622726

>>10617897
what can I do to prevent this other than brush my teeth?

>> No.10622735

>>10622482
oh look it's >>>/pol/ again.

>> No.10622744

>>10618426
>If you think about this logically, that means billions upon billions of individual creatures are born, live, suffer, and die purely for the pursuit of survival, with no hope of even communicating or understanding their situation
sounds like hell exists..

>> No.10622750

>>10618599
>you can create entire universes out of nothing
except you can't

>> No.10622751

>>10622744
No one ever said life was fair. The universe does't care if you exist or not, if you are happy or not. Evolution is a brutal theory that says most of life is useless and will not contribute to future generations.

>> No.10622752

>>10618737
wait, bigger than dinosaurs?

>> No.10622754

>>10622752
Yes. We have never found evidence of any animal larger than the Blue Whale in the fossil record.

>> No.10622760

>>10619449
then what is?

>> No.10622761

>>10621466
same

>> No.10622767

>>10622751
evolution is a flawed theory and is probably only true in the sense that existing creatures change a bit, but does not explain life.

>> No.10622768

>>10622754
I have no idea how to comprehend the real size of a blue whale to be honest...

>> No.10622781

>>10622760
sex

>> No.10622792

>>10622781
elaborate you fag.

>> No.10622810

>>10622038
Vaccinology is as much an art as it is a science. And a difficult one at that.

>> No.10622814

>>10622767
It's not supposed to explain the origin of life, that's abiogenesis.

>> No.10622860

>>10622482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwKPFT-RioU

>> No.10622938

>>10617688
Chimps and great aps already have been proven to have self awareness

>> No.10622966

>>10617688
surprising only to religious nuts

>> No.10622973
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>>10617688 this seems very intuitive to me
i dont get why it wouldnt be

>> No.10622977 [DELETED] 

>>10621957
flying insects were fish

>> No.10622991

>>10617804
Drop a citation retard

>> No.10622993

>>10618559
no one uses torque as an explanation except dimwits.

If you need an intro into bicycle science veritasium has you covered.

>> No.10623052

what the fuck generates thoughts
if you could dictate what you think then you would have to think your thought before you think them

>> No.10623095

>>10622038
Nah it's not spooky at all if you think about it, its just counter intuitive if you haven't thought about vaccine math before.

>> No.10623462

>>10618638
Thats probably the worst conceived argument I habe ever read here

>> No.10623500

>>10617683
Internet traffic studies shows hoards of Poo In Loo shitskins browsing 4chan for enlightening advice to tell their brethren.
>You could control an army of low IQ pajeets with memes

>> No.10623502

>>10617804
>la luz mala
it seems that it "follows" people but I think it is like some electrical/magnetic effect and not something paranormal
>mfw it also explodes

>> No.10623522

>>10617833
also that some male human beans have vestigial barbs (see Hirsuties papillaris genitalis) and some women claim that the barbs give them more pleasure during the sexual act
source: my own dick

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13% 50%

>> No.10623537

>>10623535
doesn't sound like it should be false

>> No.10623545

>>10622938
Not all heroes were apes.

>> No.10623546

>>10621965

Crazy if true, do you have a source for this

>> No.10623551

>>10622135
Yeah I mean, you can't believe "depressive people are smarter" while also believing the studies showing that depression effectively rots your brain without some massive cognitive dissonance.

See a shrink if you're depressed, bros

>> No.10623853

>>10623502
la luz mala is a different phenomenon; phosporous dust from animal bones, that glow in the dark.

>> No.10623914

>>10617688
Why in the fuck would anybody dispute this

>> No.10623951

>>10618426
Gotta go pet my cat

>> No.10623975

>>10622135
More interestingly, this is causal, not correlative.
Depression degrades the mind more and more the longer you have, and even worse, those who struggle with depression actually "get better" at being depressed in a way, which just accelerates the process

>> No.10623981

>>10622938
This does not mean what you think it means
We have not proven, do not know, and likely never will prove if a chimp, human, or any other animal (or computer, for that matter) subjectively experiences qualia; if it is "like" anything to be one.

Seriously, if we can't even prove this in humans, how are we going to prove it in a chimp?

>> No.10624003

>>10618584
Hahahaha Fag

>> No.10624571

>>10622380
my brain just shuts off when i try to do this. shits crazy

>> No.10625403

>>10622792
Sexual dimorphism.

>> No.10625417

>>10625403
That's just a social construct tho

>> No.10625418

>>10618800
Welcome to the Carter Catastrophe.

>> No.10625421

>>10621466
Same. I can't fathom how people live without having at least a basic stream of memories from that age. I know my memories could be false, but there's enough evidene in my parents' house to confirm they're roughly correct.

>> No.10625428

>>10618826
>The probability of rolling a natural 20 is 1/20
>The probability of rolling a number is 1

Wow so trippy man

>> No.10625433

>>10622380
Thanks for the aneurysm.

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>>10618584
and only 3 of them aren't social constructions

>> No.10625474

>>10617683
Mushrooms are genetically closer to humans than to plants. Some of them can even move on their own.

>> No.10625814

>>10625474
I read somewhere that our similarity to fungus is what can make warts so pervasive, and anti-fungal medicine so difficult to discover. Anythying that effectively kills fungus is likely to be bad for humans

>> No.10625833

>>10625814
Clearly the solution is to replace half of our mitochondria with chlorophyll and become plant based superorganisms.

>> No.10625836

>>10622380
>>10624571
Can you learn to do this though? My thoughts are so eloquent but my spoken word is absolute dog dick.

>> No.10625845

>>10625836
Yes you can train your oration abilities.

I'm a sentient visualization manifold I use to process cross-domain concepts. I stopped using instinct to process human interaction years ago, forgot where I was going with this for a second because I don't actually use my sapience to type; it's all habit that I have to update in the rarest of moments when another mind actually provokes me to think something ... I don't actually know what conditions trigger fully sapient responses. It hasn't been a meaningful question to ask, because nobody will be able to verify the contents of my mind in this century anyway. Statements like "I could do this in my sleep" lose texture, meaning, because I operate on a fraction of my former awareness.

I'm sorry, what were you trying to say? I can probably design a solution that fits your current mind patterns.

>> No.10625866

>>10623551
>>10623975
i-i-is this permanent? I may have fucked myself up.

>> No.10625899

>>10625866
If you can train yourself into depression you can train yourself out of it again. It's a lot harder work because it doesn't really feel good or rewarding like getting worse does.

>> No.10625902

>>10625899
My main worry is that a decade of severe depression may have permanently degraded my intellect, which isn't a nice thought.

>> No.10625910

>>10625902
Well at least it wasn't heroin that did it.

>> No.10625912

>>10617705
It's about 1 in 30.

>> No.10625914

>>10625910
fuck that, at least I would have enjoyed the heroin.

>> No.10625930

>>10625902
I have a decade of depression behind me aswell. Went to a shrink two years ago and am productively working on it since. IQ-wise I am quite narrowly above 2 SD (but also has been tested around this area before I went to the shrink) and my thinking feels more clearly and positive since I went to therapy. So don't loose hope, depression is quite treatable for many people and the brain is open to change in both bad and good ways.

About depression: That shit will never leave me, but I am able to recognize most episodes before they turn serious and do sth. about it. So depression does not affect my life nearly as much as earlier. Hell, I even am happy sometimes that I have been born!

>> No.10625942

>>10622750
Why not? Because your animal intuition contained within this universe says so? Not very convincing.

>> No.10626125

>>10625942
nothing can come from nothing. something has to come from something.

>> No.10626163

>>10625930
In what way has therapy helped you? What does your therapy entail exactly? Ive been to a number but never got more than the obvious that Id figured out myself.

>> No.10626167

>>10626125
Having this in mind for quite a while. What if our consciousness part is of a larger, more intricate life form. Food for thoughts

>> No.10626300

>>10626163
Not him, but for me therapy entailed hypnosis exposure therapy and then mindfulness and cbt training and then after that just kind of checking in and keeping on task.

I had had a number of really directionless and unproductive encounters with psychologists before but this one guy who actually had a plan for treatment came from getting a referral from my GP.

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10626318

>>10621495
Sure, eurotrash. Sure.

>> No.10626476

>>10617804
>sounds /x/ as shit, but time travelers or ghosts are the two best explanations for ball lightning
Nah.

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>>10618426
Working on it.
>The Hedonistic Imperative outlines how genetic engineering and nanotechnology will abolish suffering in all sentient life.
>The abolitionist project is hugely ambitious but technically feasible. It is also instrumentally rational and morally urgent. The metabolic pathways of pain and malaise evolved because they served the fitness of our genes in the ancestral environment. They will be replaced by a different sort of neural architecture - a motivational system based on heritable gradients of bliss. States of sublime well-being are destined to become the genetically pre-programmed norm of mental health. It is predicted that the world's last unpleasant experience will be a precisely dateable event.

>> No.10626504

>>10618518
>pic
One of these things is not like the others...

>> No.10626512

>>10618725
That's not what Bell's theorem implies.

>> No.10626530

>>10617729
*biologists in general

>> No.10626539

>>10621919
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/qa/listing.php?id=1588&t=densities-of-solids-and-liquids

>> No.10626542

>>10621962
Isn’t this just the base rate fallacy? i.e. vaccinated people vastly outnumber unvaccinated people

>> No.10626543

>>10626125
Everything that is must come from something else that is, but being itself must come from nothing. Even if there is an infinite chain of causes stretching all the way back in time, the chain itself has no reason to exist. Even if all of existence is like a snake eating its own tail, the snake itself has no reason to exist. Their existence has no exterior cause, meaning they "caused themselves" into being from nothing.

>> No.10626546

>>10622482
Nazi documents and officials say otherwise.

>> No.10626561

>>10626543
>being itself must come from nothing
>>>/x/

>> No.10626790

>>10617897
If there's a 100% association (OOTH) with cardiovascular disease you might expect that to be the direct precursor to alzheimers over poor dental hygiene. If it's already entered the blood, new bacteria entering through the mouth doesn't seem that important.

On the other hand I don't know enough about Alzheimers to say if there's an association between that and cardiovascular disease, I just kind of assume that it is.

>> No.10626803

>>10618985
https://youtu.be/Kh0Y2hVe_bw

>> No.10626946

>>10618737
This is the one I still have to double check even though I know we don't have evidence of anything larger, not even prehistoric sea monsters.

>> No.10626959

>>10621113
Fucking Algeria man, all that desert.

>> No.10626966

>>10621919
And that's how Ice floats. Fucking caveman instinctively knew this to be true and yet I'm still amazed by it.

>> No.10626972

>>10617683
Every single one of your ancestors had sex and procreated.

>> No.10628211

The double slit experiment
The Delayed Choice experiment
Why the fuck hasn't anyone mentioned it yet

>> No.10628350

>>10618426
By virtue of them being less intelligent, they must have differing experiences. Schema shapes experience, logical capacity shapes activity, and both of these define our distinct identity.

>> No.10628356

>>10617683
I don't know, I think string theory and negative numbers are bullshit. There's a problem with the math and scientists just say, "Oh, it'd work if there were more dimenions. So there's more dimensions." Like what? That's as bad as the whole "dark matter" farce. They use this shit to get funding form politicians and teach it as rote learning to children who get indoctrinated but I'm like, that's fucking stupid. It sounds stupid.

Bitches, negative numbers don't exist!

>> No.10628380

>>10626542
i don't know that i'd call it a fallacy, more a wrong expectation.

>> No.10628392

>>10628356
Two things can never be exactly the same, so there can never be more than 1 of anything. Therefore, natural numbers are bullshit.

Get over yourself

>> No.10628783

>>10617683
The sunk cost fallacy is usually a fallacy.

>> No.10628803

>>10628783
in what way anon?

>> No.10628839

>>10628803
It isn't a fallacy in gambling because potential payoffs are mathematical certainties. Brainlets try and apply it to domains like business, where potential payoffs are uncertain.

>> No.10628846

>>10623522
I have these as well, but they'll never touch a woman's vag because I'm an incel.
Oh also, they're buried under my foreskin.

>> No.10628851

>>10626125
t. Augustine

>> No.10628853

>>10626972
Imagine being the first organism to break that long line of successful reproduction all the way to the beginning of life.

>> No.10628860

>>10626318
>bong
>euro
Fuck off fat fetishist

>> No.10629073

>>10623853
"luz mala" is ball lighting, it chases people, explodes and other shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIB3NPTdwmc

>phosporous dust from animal bones, that glow in the dark
that's "ignis fatuus", my grandfather found a retarded treasure excavating where he saw one of those

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>>10623914

>> No.10629097

>>10621462
>other animals dont have religion
that we know of

>> No.10629113

>>10617683

There are more grains of sands on the entire sahara dessert than there are desserts in the entire universe

>> No.10629253

>>10625845
bring back /sci/ schizposting

>> No.10629261

>>10617726
Actually its not. See seebeck effect

>> No.10629268

>>10617813
>why does electromagnetic effect follows a mostly metallic vehicle.
Oh gee I wonder

>> No.10629419

>>10617726
???????????

>> No.10629540

>>10626542
Nah, the people who get vaccinated tend to be high-risk, which is interesting because it suggests that people are good at figuring out if they're high risk

>> No.10629580

>>10628392
No you


To answer op's question, there are more irrational numbers than teal numbers despite both being infinite.

>> No.10629643

>>10629580
Irrationals are a subset of reals. I assume you meant more irrationals than rationals?

>> No.10629690

>>10618950
>>10623535
the only reason I came to this thread

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>>10622760
its very complicated.

>> No.10629702

>>10617804
>time travelers or ghosts
Dude, how retarded can you be?
Time travel is impossible, referring to traveling to from the present (future) to the past.
Ghosts don't exist, and are also impossible.
It's just a mandela effect memory or random creation of plasma. Mandela effect most likely by far.
No matter how real a memory of ball lightning feels, that does not make it real, especially with the facts outweighing your beliefs.

>> No.10629714

>>10618599
>you can create entire universes out of nothing
Except you can't, you can't do that.
Unless you count a vacuum as a universe, no.

>> No.10629730

>>10629714
https://youtu.be/IcxptIJS7kQ?t=33m

>> No.10629745

>>10617847
Furbased.

>> No.10629758

>>10617688

this is a surprise to brainlets who never were around animals

>> No.10629790

>>10622482
to add to this, the supposed
death showers showed no signs of corrosion from the use of poison gas which is near always caustic. to make matters even worse, Zyklon B was manufactured in Pellet form, which slowly released as a gas, meaning the rate at which gassings had to happen would require several decades to achieve the kill count, which, also, was higher than the total number of jews living in german occupied areas. thats before getting into the gypsies, gays, criminals, etc.

>> No.10629879

>>10617717
Define race in a /sci/ way plz.
(the /pol/ way is already known)
>A species is defined in biology.
>A race is defined in politic.

>> No.10629899

>>10629643
Yeah, sorry

>> No.10629910

>>10617683
95% of all ulcers and gastritis are caused by a bacterium.

>> No.10629942

>>10629879
The very term race has many different definitions and seems to be absolutely useless
But if you want to use the same racial criterium we use on animals,you will get plenty of human races.
The only reason it's avoided is because if there is no race there is no racism,right ?
Wrong

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>>10617804
>time traveller or ghosts
>best explanations

>> No.10629956

>>10617683
Your brain needs to see faces everywhere...
pareidolia !-)

>> No.10629967

>>10621965
Source?

>> No.10629974

There are more ants on planet earth than there are atoms in the universe

>> No.10629991

>>10629974
Atoms? Do you mean stars or something (which is also probably false)

Theres more atoms in a single ant than there are ants on the planet

>> No.10630000

If a spacecraft could fly at the speed of light,
a nearby observer could see some of the hidden faces of this spacecraft.

>> No.10630006

>>10629991
You're probably thinking of termites or some other less numerous arachnid than ants

>> No.10630024

You need more energy to travel from Earth to the Sun than from Earth to Pluto.

On average in time, Mercury is the closest planet of every other planets in the Solar system.

>> No.10630045

The atom bomb was made before we discovered DNA

>> No.10630050

>>10629942
Correct, de novo genetic Principal Component Analysis will produce hundreds of biological human races. They just don't line up with the conventional races we always talk about.

>> No.10630058

>>10629790
there are photo's showing them using zyklon b to kill lice in the hair of prisoners/workers.

>> No.10630060

>>10630000
>some of the hidden faces of this spacecraft.
what?

>>10630024
>You need more energy to travel from Earth to the Sun than from Earth to Pluto.
elaborate

>> No.10630076

>>10625845
Based schizo

>> No.10630087

>>10624571
>you are now thinking manually

>> No.10630093

>>10618668
he didn't, he said it was a meme you dip

>> No.10630101

>>10618800
Isn't this the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_argument?

>> No.10630107

Despite

>> No.10630108

>>10618789
Really? I'm pretty sure more than half the population is most likely mentally unstable, if not closer to 80%
I've come to realize that mental stability is rarer than it isn't.

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>>10630060
>some of the hidden faces of this spacecraft.

>> No.10630119

>>10625421
>I can't fathom how people live without having at least a basic stream of memories from that age.
yeah man, it's so hard living not remembering what it was like sucking on my mom's tits

>> No.10630121

>>10617683
It takes all of the earth's gravity to pull down a feather

>> No.10630126

Black holes can exist in a vacuum

>> No.10630133

In the middle of every planet, moon and star, there exists a zone of anti-gravity, because it's mass is distributed equally around it.

>> No.10630135

>>10628211
>The Delayed Choice experiment
this is such bullshit, the entire quantum double slit shit is nonsense. it just shows that their understanding of fundementals is flawed.

>> No.10630136

>>10630126
That's a direct consequence : Black holes suck every matter around them.
No matter => void

>> No.10630140

>>10630136
this

>> No.10630141

>>10630133
that can't be true, there's always tiny forces of gravity from other objects aroung it.

>> No.10630144

Hydrogen is highly flammable and fires need Oxygen to burn but, H2O is used to extinguish fires.

>> No.10630148

>>10630136
Black holes are holes in space and time

>> No.10630159

>>10630144
top kek

>> No.10630162

>>10630148
>Black holes are holes in space and time
they're not holes. they have a solid but extremely dense core, they only appear as a hole because light gets trapped there. also there is no such thing as hole in time.

>> No.10630173

>>10630162
>also there is no such thing as hole in time.
Time doesn't exist inside a singularity. The universe started as a naked singularity and the Big Bang created both space and time.

>> No.10630176

>>10630173
(your ass) ()*() => your words

>> No.10630180

>>10630173
>the big bang
is a retarded theory and seriously flawed. also time was not created.

>> No.10630184

>>10630176
Stephen Hawking had and idea of using Black Holes as time machines.

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>>10617683
There's no afterlife, but we'll find a way to revive people and even achieve immortality. The downside? It won't be possible to bring back people that died before these things were invented (i.e. us). Thus some people will truly enjoy an unimaginable long live and experience billions of years of interesting stuff, but you won't. You'll cease to exist and be forgotten.

>> No.10630193

>>10630186
>There's no afterlife, but we'll find a way to revive people and even achieve immortality.
go watch Altered Carbon on netflix/torrents

>> No.10630195

>>10617683
With wormholes it might be possible to travel somewhere so far away that we could actually see how earth was in the past. That means people in the future, with sufficiently advanced telescopes and stuff, will be able to see THAT thing you did when you thought nobody was looking.

>> No.10630197

>>10630180
There was no time before the Big Bang and no space either. Imagine a place that doesn't exist and is always now. The laws of physics don't work in such a place. That's where the cosmos started.

>> No.10630200

>>10630197
>There was no time before the Big Bang and no space either.
you are absolutely retarded. nothing can happen without time, and you should stop thinking about "time" as a physical thing that needed to be created.

>> No.10630208

>>10630200
Read a Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking unless there have been some knew discoveries lately that I'm not aware of.

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>>10617683
There's a skeleton inside of you right now.

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>>10617683
There's a skeleton inside of you right now.

>> No.10630222

>>10630208
>discoveries
they're all stupid unproven theories with huge leaps made in their conclusion.

>> No.10630225

Photons travel at the speed of light and therefore don't age because they don't experience time.

>> No.10630226

>>10630215
>inside of you
this implies you and the skeleton are separate subjects, which is untrue.

>> No.10630229

>>10630225
define "age" in the context of a fucking photon...

>> No.10630231

>>10630060
>You need more energy to travel from Earth to the Sun than from Earth to Pluto.

If you want to travel in direct line from the Earth with Earth as the observer.

To travel from Earth to the Sun you need to counter the speed of of the Earth around the Sun (~30Km/s) : Then the Sun's gravity would naturally attract your spacecraft, but you'd have to keep this speed all the time (10 years maybe ?).

To travel from Earth to Pluto, you need at first to counter the force of Earth attraction : Speed of escape velocity is ~42Km/s for a short period of time.
Then you stop the acceleration and let your spacecraft travel through the Solar system until Pluto.

>> No.10630233

>>10630229
rate of decay

>> No.10630238

>>10630226
No, it doesn't, even if your premise were true (which isn't, a skeleton is part of your body, but your body contains more stuff than that).

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>>10630215
THE HORROR !

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>>10630229
That picture explains everything.

>> No.10630268

>>10630024
>On average in time, Mercury is the closest planet of every other planets in the Solar system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDgbVIqGADQ

>> No.10630457

>>10628356
Back to >>>/pol/ you must go

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10630465

>Science proves things

>> No.10630466

>>10617683
>What are some scientific facts that sound like they should be false but are actually true?
It is 100% guaranteed that there is another human on earth with the same number of hairs on their body as you.

>> No.10630470

>>10628356
Not only do negative numbers "exist" just as much as positive integers exist, but so do complex numbers. Crazy, huh?

>> No.10630472

>>10630466
And it is a man's mission to find that person and kill them

>> No.10630483

>>10630121
The virgin gravity vs. the CHAD electromagnetism

>> No.10630495

>>10630466
not true, i could be the only one with n hairs while all other numbers are occupied more than once

>> No.10630527

>>10630495
Shit, I phrased it badly. The fact is:
It is guaranteed that there are at least two humans with the same number of hairs on their body.

>> No.10630551

Women are actually men without dick.

>> No.10630555

>>10630551
except the brains of women and men differ significantly (as do their entire bodies)

>> No.10630558

>>10630555
Maybe. Maybe not.

>> No.10630560

>>10630558
it's literally a proven fact.

>> No.10630561

>>10630560
Maybe.

>> No.10630565

>>10617683
Arrow's impossibility theorem. If voters have three or more distinct alternatives, the only electoral system that can generate coherent voting patterns (i.e. convert ranked preferences of individuals into a community-wide ranking that is rational) is a dictatorship.

>> No.10630580

>>10630551
>>10630555
>>10630558
>>10630560
>>10630561
Men are stronger than women even if he cuts his dick (women allowing trannies in women's sports btfo). He'll also look ridiculous in cute clothes. Ergo, your claim is false.

>> No.10630656

>>10630466
There's no way this is true. I'm guessing people fall (roughly) on a bell curve distribution for number of hairs. So at the ends, there aren't very many people with the same numbers of hairs. So if you say this statement to an average person, it will probably be true. But what if you say it to the person with the most hairs on their body? Are you saying that it must be a tied position? What is all but one of the people tied for that position plucks one of their hairs out in a coordinated effort to help the one win the position decisively?

>> No.10630666

>>10630656
see
>>10630527

>> No.10630850

>>10630135
Care to explain what you think is nonsense about it? I'd be happy to discuss it.

>> No.10630899

>>10618789
Confirmed by (((who)))

>> No.10630941

>>10630850
from the observed data, to the conclusion is a huge fucking leap.
there is no way they have accounted for all the interference of whatever they use in the experiment. so many things can go wrong and influence the result or the reading that them settling on such a vague and fancy conclusion is fucking pathetic. there's just so much wrong with it, too much to just write about in a single post.

>> No.10630947

Salt is the only mineral we consume.

Honey doesn't go bad.

Cells live and die. It takes 7 years for your body to replace all of its cells. The body you had 7 years ago is not same one you have now.

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>>10630941

>> No.10630960

>>10630947
Yes and no. Cue neurons.

>> No.10630974

>>10630957
>weebfag can't into science
no wonder. go watch children's cartoons.

>> No.10630978

>>10630947
>Salt is the only mineral we consume.
this is not true though.

>> No.10630991

>>10630974
>t has no defense and no knowledge of physics

>> No.10630996

>>10618950
Those are statistics. Gotta keep them up to date otherwise people gunna just say the numbers are racist then we get a whole /pol/ of trouble.

>> No.10630999

>>10617702
>>10617897
Let's not confuse correlation with causation, in reality inflammation and sugar consumption share very strong links with both Alzheimers and gingivitis/poor dental hygiene.

>> No.10631004

>>10622446
Unless we're actively capturing the energy from the reaction, it's a long stretch to call the Earth a Dyson Sphere.

>> No.10631009

>>10630996
To be clear, this is because people on TED talks are calling the algorithms biased instead of accepting facts. They are skewing the algorithms towards their bias instead of accepting information against it. This is how we get pseudo science fucking up people's realities.

>> No.10631013

>>10631009
This is me responding to myself, just wanted to point out the hypocrisy. when you have enough /g/sus in ya you understand how computers don't bias. Accept the info, react accordingly. Computer logic has a steady grounding in philosophy as it is.

>> No.10631015

>>10626972
>Every single one of your ancestors had sex and procreated.
False.
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success
Less than 5% of men used to reproduce.

>> No.10631018

>>10631013
*Computer science

>> No.10631021

>>10631015
Are you a clone?

>> No.10631029

>>10631021
There's a difference between ancestors and direct ancestors. The fact of the matter is the majority of the males in your family line died without reproducing.

>> No.10631035

>>10618737
How long would it take a 120 pound manlet like me to eat a blue whale?

>> No.10631043

>>10631035
It would be extremely painful

>> No.10631070

>>10631029
Way to get technical you fucking retard...

>> No.10631117

>>10630960
the brain grows new neurons all the time

>> No.10631234

When you dream you tripped on something and are jolted awake you didn't trip in your dream. Your leg jolted, and to make the world logically consistent your brain imprinted the memory of dreaming that you tripped.

>> No.10631298

>>10629113
Is sand rare outside of Earth?

>> No.10631334

>>10618950
? What is the supposed to mean...

>> No.10631342

>>10631334
Oh 13% percent cause 50% of crimes
Lmao, thats not very kind

>> No.10631531

>>10618475
>muh qualia
Good meme, schlimpy. Now bring me my burger menu.

>> No.10631631

>>10617824
Well of course the /x/ faggots will tell you that THEY know of smartphones and don't want to get caught so they changed their methods.

>> No.10631632

>>10617833
Not only that but these barbs break off during intercourse which in turn leads to ovulation in the female cat.

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>>10630186
>theres no afterlife

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10631889

>>10617683

>> No.10631949

>>10630551
men are modified women. males have external genitalia resembling females' until some point in prenatal development and that is why there is a line up the middle of your scrotum, from where your 'labia' fused

>> No.10632251

>>10630470
are the complex numbers the chad of the number world? i had been thinking about the realness of numbers as a concept as well. for example: why did we choose to describe the world with numbers and not any other logical "game" which math essentially is. and i think the answer is that there is nothing more basic that plain numbers while any other "game" could be described in terms of them but not the other way around.

>> No.10632591

>>10632251
>complex numbers the chad of the number world
Nope, Complex numbers are more like a set of numbers between 1 dimention (straight line) and 2dimentions (the plan).
>1.5D numbers