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>This question sounds easy because it’s straightforward. Actually, it’s very hard to answer. It’s intellectually difficult because the knowledge that everyone is taught in school is by definition agreed upon. And it’s psychologically difficult because anyone trying to answer must say something she knows to be unpopular. Brilliant thinking is rare, but courage is in even shorter supply than genius.

Well /sci/?

>> No.10615302

>>10615292
God doesn't exist.

>> No.10615306

>>10615292
OP sucks dick

>> No.10615307

>>10615292
The absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

>> No.10615309

>>10615292
Nuclear power is safe and should be heavily invested in.

>> No.10615315 [DELETED] 

>>10615292
Gender identity probably has a biological component but that component probably merely predisposes an individual toward developing a certain gender identity. This position pisses off both the right, which largely refuses to acknowledge that gender is separate from sex, and the left, which refuses to acknowledge that gender is partially rooted in biology.

>> No.10615321

>>10615292
Gender identity probably has a biological component but that component probably merely predisposes an individual toward developing a certain gender identity. This position pisses off both the right, which largely refuses to acknowledge that gender is separate from sex, and the left, which usually refuses to acknowledge that gender is partially rooted in biology. It also annoys those people who insist that trans folks are actually the other sex inside (every sexually dimorphic neural difference we've found thus far only exists on the group level) as well as the ones who insist that trans people are simply delusional (the group-level shift toward neural features that are more typical to members of the sex they identify with hints that something else is going on).

>> No.10615335

>>10615321
gender dysphoria is the first in a wild new category of memetically contagious mental illnesses

>> No.10615340

>>10615335
>Androgen Receptor Repeat Length Polymorphism Associated with Male-to-Female Transsexualism
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402034/

>There is a likely genetic component to transsexualism, and genes involved in sex steroidogenesis are good candidates. We explored the specific hypothesis that male-to-female transsexualism is associated with gene variants responsible for undermasculinization and/or feminization. Specifically, we assessed the role of disease-associated repeat length polymorphisms in the androgen receptor (AR), estrogen receptor β (ERβ), and aromatase (CYP19) genes.

>..
>A significant association was identified between transsexualism and the AR allele, with transsexuals having longer AR repeat lengths than non-transsexual male control subjects (p = .04).

>..
>This study provides evidence that male gender identity might be partly mediated through the androgen receptor.

>> No.10615348

>>10615335
>>10615340
>Transsexuality Among Twins: Identity Concordance, Transition, Rearing, and Orientation
http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2010to2014/2013-transsexuality.html

>Combining data from our independent findings with those from past research, 13 of 39 male MZ twin pairs (33.3%) were found to be concordant for transsexual identity and eight of 25 (22.8%) female MZ twins were found concordant. In comparison, concordance between either male or female DZ twins was low or zero (1/38 = 2.6%; Table 5).

MZ=Monozygotic, DZ=Dizygotic

To be fair the sample size is lacking. Still, the fact that many different studies point in the same direction allows us to make an educated guess.

>> No.10615621

>>10615292
your mom is fat

>> No.10615630

>>10615292
/sci/ is literally hell

>> No.10615650

>>10615292
string theory is actually right

>> No.10616530

>>10615630
Do you mean that figuratively?

>> No.10616546

>>10615621
she's losing weight, I'm so proud of her.

>> No.10616732

>>10615306
>>10615321
>>10615630
all widely agreed upon facts

>> No.10616741

>>10616732
meant >>10615621 not >>10615321

>> No.10616777

>>10615302
Atheism is making an unprovable and untestable assumption too. The only truly intelligent stance is agnostic atheism.
This is the important truth that upsets both bible thumpers and fedora tippers.

>> No.10616785

>>10615292
I still can't believe their faces aren't photoshopped

>> No.10616792

>>10616777
I mean, you could say the same about the existence of a giant undetectable pink unicorn who constantly fucks you in the ass. Why aren't you agnostic about that unicorn, as well as its infinite siblings?

>> No.10616856

>>10616792
>Why aren't you agnostic about that unicorn, as well as its infinite siblings?
Why would you not be? Agnosticism is about an inability to disprove something, not trying to pretend everything you can concieve of is also plausible.

>> No.10616863

>>10616792
Is this hypothetical pink unicorn undetectable and unfalsifiable? Okay then, I am agnostic about it. However, I also consider it more likely that it doesn't exist, similar to how I consider it more likely that God doesn't exist.
Sorry but the invisible dragon thought experiment only works as an argument against magical thinking, not against agnosticism.

>> No.10616870

>>10615321
>This position pisses off both the right, which largely refuses to acknowledge that gender is separate from sex, and the left, which usually refuses to acknowledge that gender is partially rooted in biology
what the fuck? how can you be so wrong? you are incorrectly straw manning both sides...

>> No.10616873

>>10616792
theres a difference between the origin of time and space and a gay invisible unicorn though

>> No.10616877

>>10616873
One of them sounds more absurd as a kneejerk reaction but otherwise they're not that different. Just something with no evidence and no way to disprove.

>> No.10616893

>>10615292
That democracy was a mistake.

I'm trying to warn people. Authoritarian countries like Russia and China will beat the west in the near future. The writing is on the wall. I don't even understand what the obsession with democracy even is. Why? It is such a bad system.

>> No.10616897

>>10616893
quality of life for average citizens has consistently been much higher for democracies throughout history. China is making bank if you just look at the whole country but for a random peasant life is still pretty bad

>> No.10616904

>>10616897
The quality of life for average citizens will be a really useless metric when the average citizen is dead. The most important metric is the probability that the society will perpetuate itself. Right now China and Russia are way ahead. While western democracies are wasting time arguing about how many genders there are, China and Russia are advancing their societies in every direction possible.

>> No.10616905

>>10615292
>What important truth do very few people agree with you on?
the time for action is now

>> No.10616909

>>10616905
If you are unironically a nazi then you are doing it wrong. How did black people get into power? By pretending they were still subservient citizens of the state, and the teeth did not come out until very recently.

If you think the revolution starts with radicals, you are retarded and will lose. White people will be extinct in 2 generations.

>> No.10616915

>>10616905
GAMERS RISE UP

>> No.10617048

>>10615292
the blackpill

>> No.10617187

The sphinx was built before the end of the last ice age and later found and recarved by dynastic Egyptians who moved into the area after it changed from lush rainforest to desert.

Fuck lying egyptologists

>> No.10617207

>>10616877
No, one is more absurd because it was designed to be an absurdity. Moreover, the invisible pink unicorn has attributes, and those attributes themselves can be reasoned about to disprove its existence. If you really think your faggoty ass thought experiment disproves God, you haven't engage in any serious study of the matter. Stop watching skeptic videos on YouTube.

>> No.10617217

>>10615292
Flying cars will need be commercially viable.

>> No.10617434

>>10616777
Empirically, scientists are agnostic about everything. We only have probabilities of something being true. But probability does not describe a truth, it describes our certainty of a truth. God either exists or doesn't exist. I operate as if it doesn't since the probability is low.

>> No.10617483

Race, IQ, and what that means for a civilization

>> No.10617487

>>10616893
Agreed 100%. Bring back Caesar

>> No.10617490

>>10615306
Everyone agrees upon this eternal truth, OP is a faggot

>> No.10617508

>>10616909
What are you talking about stupid tranny

>> No.10617572

>>10615292
tfw never gonna be a fighter chad

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10617584

>>10615292
Half of the universe' living things should be destroyed so that balance can ensue.

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10617607

>>10617584
Trust me bro. Diversity is your strength.

>> No.10618565

>>10617048
This

>> No.10619903

Socrates is spinning in his grave so fast reading this that his kinetic energy is equal to his mass energy

>> No.10619916

>>10615309
my nigger

>> No.10620037

>>10617584
>marvel
grow up

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10620077

>>10615307
based

reaching moral peaks requires crossing moral troughs, and history will forget the troughs no matter their depth.
It's your responsibility to show that there is no way to reach the peak but through the trough.

If you want people to agree with your ethical conclusions you have to walk them there from their own ethical premises.

>> No.10620081

>>10617607
>Diversity is our strength

its your responsibility to show people that diversity leads to productivity if you want them to sign up for your cult, no one's going to sign up just because you repeat your mantra loud and often enough.

>> No.10620094

"Climate change" was a childish candy-ass angle and will doom humanity. We should have gone with "Carbon poisoning"

>> No.10620243

science and technology are not intrinsically good things, and one day our technological development will open up a Pandora's box that WILL destroy us if we are not 100% prepared for it

>> No.10620528

>>10615292
We have less than 200 years of data on radioactive decay, but not only do we assume all radioactive decay is first order exponential decay but we extrapolate based off the data we have to millions of years before we have data. This is not only bad statistics but also bad science.

>> No.10620532

>>10615292
Stop fishing for startup ideas.

>> No.10620896

>>10616777
>>10615302
>>10616792
>>10616856
>>10616863
>>10616873
>>10616877
Early to mid 20th century developments in mathematical logic (such as Godel's incompleteness theories) prove that one cannot prove or disprove the existence of God.

>> No.10620912

Lists start at 0.

>> No.10620984

>>10620896
Incorrect and irrelevant.

>> No.10621001

>>10620984
>incorrect
just assume that the universe is consistent and replace "statement in the system" with statement about God and the universe.

>> No.10621047

>>10621001
Ugh, you dumb little popsci faggot. Godel's incompleteness theorems apply to

1. Axiomatic systems whose theorems are algorithmically listable.

2. Statements about the natural numbers from such systems.

>> No.10621051

>>10621047
1. Whether you can list the axioms of the universe or not is irrelevant, since you live inside the universe
2. Statements about natural numbers can be extended to cover physical reality
I know it's a lot to process right now, but I just proved the invalidity of Gnosticism.

>> No.10621073

>>10621051
>axioms of the universe
No such thing. The map is not the territory. And of course it's relevant since that's what the theorem you're incorrectly applying is about.

>Statements about natural numbers can be extended to cover physical reality
Then do it for god.

>> No.10621087

>>10615307
>do very few people agree with you on
>>10615309
do very few people agree with you on
>>10615621
do very few people agree with you on
>>10615630
do very few people agree with you on
>>10615650
do very few people agree with you on
>>10616777
do very few people agree with you on
>>10617048
do very few people agree with you on

/sci/ either can't read or has a super lopsided worldview.

>> No.10621112

>>10621087
Very few people in the world are atheists and very few people in the world reject the adage "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

>> No.10621148

>>10621112
>Very few people in the world are atheists
nope. Plenty of atheists, especially in academia and on /sci/

>> No.10621190

>>10621073
>no axioms of the universe
Law of excluded middle, speed of light, covalent and ionic bonding in basic chem, Newtonian physics approximates axioms governing motion, electromagnetism, etc. Pretty much all physics is itself an axiom.

>> No.10621431

>>10616777
You can't prove a negative so proof is on christcucks. I will say "we don't know but it's not worth thinking about without any sort of real evidence" (implicit atheism) is a lot more reasonable than "there's definitely 100% no god" (explicit atheism)

The other thing is the idea of a god depicted as he is in the Bible has virtually no chance of existing, some sort of omnipotent presence we'll never be able to fathom the existence of is however very possible

>> No.10621453

>>10615292
that misandry exists and is bigger than it first seems

>> No.10621463

>>10621453
Plenty of incels agree with you on that

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10622828

>>10615292
Monsieur Bog?

>> No.10622855

>>10616904
Russia is shit. They are far from a world player anymore.
China, on the other hand, scares the piss out of me, because it's people are backwards, their culture is shit, and their industry is at full-blown industrial revolution levels, with all the lack of consideration that entails.
I just really don't want to live in a world where China is the dominant country.