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Why are we getting dumber?

>> No.10601841

>>10601836

do you understand the definition of IQ? the average is always 100
so it can not rise or sink over time

>> No.10601842

>>10601836
i wonder how they came up with those stats

>> No.10601846

>>10601836
We're not, that chart goes directly against the Flynn effect,

>> No.10601848

>>10601836
Source? I thought the Flynn effect claims the world's average IQ is increasing over time?

>> No.10601849

>>10601836
We're not, you're just mentally ill and posting bullshit charts.

>> No.10601851

>>10601836

It’s something of a well-known secret among anthropologists: Based on measurements of skulls, the average brain volume of Homo sapiens has reportedly decreased by roughly 10 percent in the past 40,000 years. This reduction is a reversal of the trend of cranial expansion, which had been occurring in human evolution for millions of years prior.

From every region with data, there seems to have been a roughly half cup decrease in endocranial volume that began when the Ice Age gave way to the Holocene, the most recent geological epoch, which is characterized by a comfortable, stable climate.

Researchers point to the fact that brains are energetically costly organs. Though the modern human brain is only 2 percent of our body weight, it consumes almost one quarter our energy input. By inventing ways to store information externally — cave art, writing, digital media — humans were able to shed some brain bulk, according to one proposal.

Other say that Homo sapiens underwent self-domestication, a proposal that stems from our understanding of animal domestication.

>> No.10601853 [DELETED] 

>>10601836
No we aren't getting dumber but the average "human" is because of all the uncontrolled shitskin and nigger breeding.

>> No.10601855

>>10601851

Sheep, dogs and other domesticated species differ from their wild ancestors by a number of physical and behavioral traits. These include tameness, reduced timidity, juvenile appearance into adulthood and smaller brains. Research has shown these traits, collectively known as the domestication syndrome, are influenced by the same hormones and genes. Humans selectively bred animals with these desirable features, creating today’s pets and livestock.

The self-domestication hypothesis — or what anthropologist Brian Hare called “survival of the friendliest” — suggests we also did this to ourselves. The idea is, within Stone Age societies, cooperative, level-headed individuals were more likely to survive and reproduce than combative, aggressive ones. Those pro- or anti-social inclinations were influenced by genes regulating hormones, which also affected physical traits, including body and brain size. Overtime, “survival of the friendliest” led to humans with slighter builds and brains on average.

So although there was a reduction in skull size — and possibly intelligence — human cooperation grew, cultivating greater collective wisdom. A few social smaller brains can surely outwit one lonely large noggin.

>> No.10601861

>>10601836

This decline is possibly related to warmer conditions on the earth in the 10,000 years after the last ice age ended. Colder conditions favor bulkier bodies because they conserve heat better. As we have acclimated to warmer temperatures, the way we live has also generally become less physically demanding, which overall serves to drive down body weights.

Another likely reason for this decline is that brains are energetically expensive and will not be maintained at larger sizes unless it is necessary. The fact that we increasingly store and process information externally—in books, computers and online—means that many of us can probably get by with smaller brains. Some anthropologists have also proposed that larger brains may be less efficient at certain tasks, such as rapid computation, because of longer connection pathways.

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>>10601836

>> No.10601864

>>10601855
>“survival of the friendliest” — suggests we also did this to ourselves. The idea is, within Stone Age societies, cooperative, level-headed individuals were more likely to survive and reproduce than combative, aggressive ones
Rude, angry spergs and BPD niggers BTFO. Tick tock motherfuckers.

>> No.10601876

>>10601853
This

>> No.10601879

>>10601836
Did you ever watch idiocracy?

>> No.10601888
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>>10601848
It is. Africans are experiencing a massive upswing in IQ right now. In the 1990s places like Mozambique had an average IQ in the 60s. Now Mozambique has an average IQ in the 90s higher than places such as Russia, Ukraine etc.

A hypothesis for why this is the case is that a lot of Africa experienced famines in the last decades which suppressed the average IQ. Countries like Russia also had this in the past which is why they still score under western european levels.

But now that most places in Africa have been without any serious famines for almost 30 years we are starting to see their IQ return to the normal human mean of ~100.

Turns out IQ isn't highly dependent on race after all.

However we still don't know how some populations such as Ashkenazi Jews have such an astronomically high IQ compared to the human average.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

>> No.10601892

>>10601836
One guy keeps messing up the results for everyone

>> No.10601894

>>10601888
>mozambique has an average iq in the 90's

>> No.10601904

>>10601864
>smaller brains

>> No.10601914

>>10601888
>we still don't know how some populations such as Ashkenazi Jews have such an astronomically high IQ
Hitler created a master race of Jews by killing the 6 million dumbest ones.

>> No.10601918

>>10601892
You mean you?

>> No.10601923
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10601923

Americans and their disney and anime is why.

>> No.10601925

>>10601914
You might be joking but that is a genuine hypothesis. Over history Jews were always oppressed, attacked and genocided. It's been recorded 44 times in the last 3000 years. The hypothesis is that in those 44 times all low quality Jews were culled and only the strongest and smartest were either allowed to live or were smart enough to escape it. Causing all Jewish hate to ironically result in a Eugenics program where all current Jews were selected for their high intelligence.

Sure would explain how 54% of global PhD holders and 60% of all scientific nobel prices belong to Jews.

>> No.10601946

>>10601923
Onions is actually really fucking good if you are bulking and want to build muscle. Almost the entirety of /fit/ uses it.

I don't care about the effects of onions as long as it makes my muscles grow faster (which it does)

>> No.10601966

>>10601925
The hypothesis doesn't hold up because if you look at the history of for example China and their mass conquering by nomadic peoples, it doesn't bear out that selective eugenics/dysgenics on a mass scale can raise or lower the mean. Plus Israel is beaten by Asia in average IQ last I checked. Honestly we're too early in the data to draw any historical conclusions, though I am willing to say that things like nutrition, family structure etc. play a significant role in at least the measurement of IQ. Both Jews and Asians have very stringent diets and collectivist tendencies.

>> No.10601978

>>10601946
Onions

>> No.10602003

>>10601978
Onions

>> No.10602006

>>10601888
>However we still don't know how some populations such as Ashkenazi Jews have such an astronomically high IQ compared to the human average.
Do we understand why Africans have such a high rate of runners in olympics?

>> No.10602009

>>10602003
Sóyus Maximus

>> No.10602012

>>10601918
:(

>> No.10602017

>>10602006
>Do we understand why Africans have such a high rate of runners in olympics?
One tribe of Kenyans just runs around a lot so they basically get trained for it their whole lives.

>> No.10602033

More negros and browns compared to whites and Asians

>> No.10602035

>>10602009
basedus ultimamus

>> No.10602044

>>10602017
So its their culture?

LMAO.

>> No.10602047

>>10601836

Iron causes ND disorders: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23237353

Accelerates brain aging: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnagi.2018.00065/full

And shifts brain chemistry towards psychosis: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6138953

>> No.10602048

>>10601841
The issue depends on just who "we" are.

>>10601846
The Flynn effect has ended in most of the West.

>>10601851
Neanderthals had an even larger brain but that didn't help much. Still, seems people with large admixtures of Neanderthal genes do well in IQ.

>> No.10602076

>>10601841
>I put 100 litres of water in this bucket as a standard therefore no group of buckets in the future can contain more or less than an average of 100 litres.

>> No.10602088 [DELETED] 

https://www.infowars.com/are-we-becoming-more-stupid-iq-scores-are-decreasing/

seriously OP, if people are becoming dumber, it's because of you reposting shit like this

>>10601848
>Source?
Only person rational enough to "almost" call bullshit on OP. Seriously WTF is wrong with this thread?

>> No.10602090

Low birthrates among high-IQ people, especially in women. Thank feminism. Except the dumbening to accelerate in the future as racemixing increases.

>> No.10602095
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>>10601848
>Source?
Only person rational enough to "almost" call bullshit on OP. Seriously WTF is wrong with anons ITT?
https://www.infowars.com/are-we-becoming-more-stupid-iq-scores-are-decreasing/

>>10601836
seriously OP, if people are becoming dumber, it's because of you reposting shit like this.

I think OP might have created a small placebo effect where people act stupider because they believe they're stupider. Kinda scary how some random anon can literally make your IQ go down just with placebo alone.

>> No.10602097

>>10602076

IQ is defined in such a way that the average is always 100. If what you mean is that intelligence is decreasing then you must say so, if you say IQ is drecreasing then you are flat out wrong because it's impossible by definition. End of discussion.

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10602099

>>10602090
High IQ people have the highest birthrates in first world countries for about 5 years now. There has been a massive drop in fertility rate of uneducated people since smartphones and services like Tinder became popular.

Ironically services like Tinder allow high IQ individuals to have more offspring allowing the average IQ of humanity to rise again.

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10602100

>>10601836
there are more niggers in the world, hence global IQ goes down

>> No.10602101

>>10602044
Yes, actually. If your region had a culture of running around everywhere from a young age, and nearly everyone participated in it, it would result in a lot of people turning out to be great runners who would otherwise never have reached their potential.

>> No.10602132

>>10602076
low IQ post

>> No.10602146

>>10601836
>>10601851


The reason is, that there are two brains in our body - the cerebral cortex, and the cerebellum.

The cerebral cortex is the statistician, and the computer. It spots correlations and can learn things mechanically.

The cerebellum is the mathematician, and the programmer. It checks if the patterns and correlations discovered by the cerebral cortex make sense, creates higher order hypotheses and guides the cerebral cortex accordingly.

The problem is that the cerebral cortex has no ability to tell what makes sense and what doesn't, so if it overtakes the cerebellum and becomes the part of the brain that makes the final decisions, the result is insanity. Which means that as people evolved bigger cerebral cortex, they became more prone to insanity. Everything is mostly fine as long as the culture teaches you things 100% correctly. But indoctrinate somebody at the right moment with malicious ideology, and they will never find their way out of it. The error will not only never get corrected, but it will snowball as newly learned knwoledge will be misinterpreted to fit with the error, and those misrepresentations will cause further errors until the result is insanity.

It might even be the reason for why trepanations were common, as people learned that insane people sometimes recover after head injury, and learned to treat the insanity by destroying (possibly a part of) one hemisphere.

Evolution eventually solved this problem by evolving away from large cerebral cortex, and towards more powerful cerebellum. cont...

>> No.10602150

>>10602146

For people high on the cerebral intelligence, things simply are. They teach mostly by memorizing; facts are to be memorized, and repeated as exactly as possible. They will typically recognize "intellectual property", as knowledge is seem to have high value, and some fact may be reserved for certain special people. The origin of knowledge is not understood, most of everything they know is learned from other people, and knowledge may be eve believed to be of divine origin, held as sacred, and modifying it may be seen as a crime.

For those high in the cerebellar intelligence, there is an inner logic to most things. They teach mostly by letting the children rediscover the knowledge, and exactness is not expected. Knowledge is not seen as having inherent value, as what was discovered once can be discovered again; it may seem completely bizarre that somebody would want to own knowledge, as it is intuitively understood how new knwoledge is discovered and most of what they learned was learned through guided rediscovery, through their parents and teachers, rather than being handed down to be memorized.

People with high cerebellar intelligence may have trouble in academia, but you get people like Feynman, when they manage to push through.

>> No.10602152

>>10602101
>far left brain on science
LMAO

>> No.10602154

Perhaps thou needst increase thy IQ

>> No.10602157

>>10602154
Did you know that calling someone of a higher social position "thou" was enough to get them killed.

"thou" is a very rude way to address someone and was restricted to underlings and servants. Don't use it.

>> No.10602165

>>10602157
Thy Amalgacon is already above thou. Amalgacon cares not.

>> No.10602168

>>10602099
>high IQ people use Tinder
low IQ post

>> No.10602266

>>10601836
I like how they made little bends in the future trend line and how it shows no sign of slowing. This is top notch scholarship.

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>>10602097
Yeah, it's impossible that blacks could have an iq lower than whites, because a black person's iq is defined to be 100 end of discussion

>> No.10602316

>>10602154
Canth I fub-fribe to ye Amalgacon niews-letter, or doth that Require a reddit golde Ac-count.

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10602319

>another IQ thread

>> No.10602328

>>10601836
Where did you get your stats OP?

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>>10601836
because N

>> No.10602387

>>10602099
>High IQ people have the highest birthrates in first world countries for about 5 years now.
Cite?

>> No.10602449

>>10602387
you ask a citation from that guy, but not one from OP?

>> No.10602513

>>10602449
Sure. OP was smart enough to leave the definition of "we" open, which reduces it to a question of selection. Also since the Flynn effect is at an end in the West there is probably already a reduction so that it is more clear. This article:
https://psykologisk.no/sp/2018/08/e6/
seems to be much cited and states a reduction has been going on since very roughly year 2000.

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>>10602316
Thou shall purchase Reddit Platinum. Thy newsletter is exclusively available on r/atheism

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>>10601946
>almost the entirety of /fit/ uses it
you dare mock the son of a shepherd?

>> No.10602850

>>10602099
I think you're making shit up. Cool graphic though.

>> No.10602967

>>10601836
CO2 levels

>> No.10603178

>>10601888
How do you explain african americans then? they keep averaging 85 (and mind you they have on average 25% european ancestry) and they haven't experienced famines since generations

>> No.10603287

>>10603178
Founder effect and absence of positive selection for centuries, probably.

>> No.10603313

>>10601836
Europeans made up 30% of the world's population in 1950
Now they make up less than 15%

>> No.10603319 [DELETED] 

>>10601853
uneducated people have more children thats it, niggers and spics just fall into that category at a very high rate

>> No.10603392

>>10602354
engineer

>> No.10603440
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>>10602099

>> No.10603682

>>10601841
Retarded fag spotted. 100 is the mean IQ of whites.

>> No.10603691

>>10602146
Citation needed for all of this bumbling fumbling faggot bullshit :)))

>> No.10603710

>>10601966
israel != ashkenazi jews. pointless compairison

>> No.10603818

>>10601855
Based anon actually offering insights.
Interesting. I wonder if in the future we will 'undo the damage' through genetic engineering.

>> No.10603910

>>10601888
Famines actually increase the general iq though
That is after the generation of malnourished people have passed away

>> No.10603912

>>10602168
Reading comprehension

>> No.10603927

>>10603910
Epidemics increase IQ, because immunity correlates with intelligence.

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10603932

>>10601864

we wont go down without a fight, brainlet.

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10603936

>>10601888

>evolution stops at the neck
>everyone is equal above the neck

>> No.10603944

>>10601841
>>10602097
>the value of a dollar doesnt change because its always worth one dollar

>> No.10603963

>>10603932
>>10601864
>>10601855
Oh well, the normie idea of cooperative people being retarded. There are actually two way to resolve the violence problem:
keep being savage brutes, but be careful not to offend anybody (the western/normie way)

actually have desire to cooperate and have strong aversion towards making enemies and harming others (the asian/aspie way)

The latter has the obvious advantagd of not having to be retarded to be cooperative, and havinb free brain capacity for prctical uses, instead of it being wasted on mind games and manipulating each other to make them do what you need

>> No.10603965

>>10601836
plastic

>> No.10603966

>>10602310

Because IQ isn't what we base intelligence on.
IQ is a small part of a large whole. IQ, EQ, environment, education, experience and nurture, just to name a few.
These all come together to form intelligence. It's not a static thing, but alters constantly depending on external factors as much as internal.
That's not even touch upon what type of intelligence we're talking about; theoretical, practical, inter-sectional or variable?

>> No.10603971

>>10602850
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

>> No.10603975 [DELETED] 

I also suspect the western way may be long term unstable - look how paranoid efford is required to not give anyone a reason to kill: one of the reasons why racism is forbidden, becuase any difference could be used to justify exterminationj you must stand, sit and move in exactly prescribed ways in order not to trigger anybody and must be extremely careful not to say something that could be used against you. This is extremely inconvenient and it seems inconceivable that somebody won't find a way to justify the next wave of violence sooner or later. Maybe that is the reason why aspies are beco ing more and more common even in the west.

>> No.10603982

>>10603975
In a hundred years there won't even be a race as every child will have some mandatory CRISPR editing done and everyone will be largely the same except for the old retired generation that were still natural born.

Racism and all that shit will go extinct due to technology since there is no need for racism if every child gets the same intelligence genes implanted into them from birth.

>> No.10603984

I also suspect the western way may be long term unstable - look how paranoid effort is required to not give anyone a reason to kill: one of the reasons why racism is forbidden, becuase any difference could be used to justify extermination, you must stand, sit and move in exactly prescribed ways in order not to trigger anybody and must be extremely careful not to say something that could be used against you. This is extremely inconvenient and it seems inconceivable that somebody won't find a way to justify the next wave of violence sooner or later. Maybe that is the reason why aspies are beco ing more and more common even in the west.

>> No.10603987

>>10603982
And then an epidemic comes that exterminates all... (sorry for the edit, BTW)

>> No.10603992

>>10603987

Depends on if we haven't already found a way to boost the immune system beyond what it can naturally handle by then.
We have a 7+ billion population to draw useful genetic functions from. If CRISPR truly takes off then it's just a matter of time until enough companies start competing who can offer the best genetics to the masses, essentially benefiting the species as a whole, optimistically thinking. (but considering everyone and their grandma can get their hands on a smartphone nowadays, I don't think it's unreasonable)

>> No.10604014

>>10603966
This guy actually gets it.

>> No.10604017

>>10603984
That's because we aren't taught self-discovery/attainment since a young age, kids are beginning to be taught meditation in schools nowadays which is a good start, I think legalizing and integrating psychedelics back into our culture will also help immensely. If we can all learn to be more compassionate and caring (not doting or doormats, strong leaders of ourselves and the aid of others) then this world will be happier and more well off in general.

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>>10601836

>> No.10604043

>>10604017

This. Reflection is as important to both personal growth and intelligence as education.
While I do not encourage the use of psychedelics since we still don't have an accurate way of predicting negative effects depending on the person, I do agree with the idea.
Attaining knowledge and integrating it into a form that's useful in a practical sense are different things.
Meditation is a good first step, now we just need a way to modernize it enough that the majority will want to try it.

>> No.10604049

>>10601853
Based /pol/ mayo telling how it is. Actually laughed when I saw this post.

>> No.10604056

>>10601841
You can weigh current test scores against the old ones you dummy

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>>10604024

>> No.10604267

>>10603971
These data give me hope for the future.

That's not what I was being sceptical about though.

>> No.10604295

>>10601836
I'm not sure, but I think there's an edit of this picture.

>> No.10604303

>>10603944
only in comparison to big mac's.
What is IQ in comparison to then ? and dont say cheese fingers.

>> No.10604305 [DELETED] 

http://sowernal.com/2jZA
http://sowernal.com/2i7e http://sowernal.com/2jW6
http://sowernal.com/2jXP

>> No.10604463

>>10601836
Whats the point of such a biased graph?

>> No.10604511

>>10601841
>nigger doenst knoe indexation
classic stem

>> No.10605108

>>10601849
What a low IQ post

>> No.10605116

>>10603691
Indoctrination spotted.

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have you had lunch yet today op? what are you talking abbbout?

>> No.10605138

IQ is a mathematically useless concept and has been proven so. Psychologists are fucking hacks. Used car salesmen know more about human behavior than fucking psychologists.

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>>10601888
>Now Mozambique has an average IQ in the 90s
Nominal GDP per capita (2017): $417

>> No.10605350

>>10601836
More people are taking IQ tests than ever before. Previously, people would only take the test when they were suspected of being smart. Now, everyone wants to take it. There's also more countries coming online and getting with the rest of the world who are also taking the tests.

>> No.10605368

>>10601836
jews

>> No.10605380

>>10601836
fake chart

>> No.10605391

>>10603966
>muh multiple intelligences
pseudoscience

>> No.10605397

>>10601836
its simple really

IQ is no longer advantageous in terms of genetic propagation.
Dummys produce more offspring than smarties.

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>>10603966
>the mental gymnastics low IQ people have to cope with

>> No.10606227

>>10601836
>Why are we getting dumber?

clandestine warfare strategy carried out through social engineering, chemical warfare, and psychological warfare.

>> No.10606232

>>10606227
continued...

I mean, unless you guys don't think that this strategy is viable.

>> No.10606279

>>10603966
>environment, education, experience
these are explicitly not IQ or intelligence
>EQ
Not science
All of what you said is literally the opposite of true. None of it is scientific and none of it is accepted by academics of any stripe.
Why are you desperate for it to be true and why do you even post on a science board?

>> No.10606290

>>10601888
no african country or african population in the world who has an average iq above 80.

>> No.10606295

>>10606279
Also, shit like this is science denial on the level of climate change denial, disbelieving the theory of evolution, anti-vaccination, etc

>> No.10606353

>>10601861
If this is the case then how come we have global warming and a global obesity crisis at the same time?

>> No.10606359

>>10601861
the Earth hasn't warmed enough for that kind of change in selection to occur on brain size. Global iq has decreased because of dysgenic breeding in the west and a larger proportion of the global population living in low iq regions like sub-saharan africa and india. The change towards larger bodies is typically sudden and occurs after strong shifts in climate in between glacials not this early. 250 years wouldn't cause lower iq from temperature alone, you could argue the excess co2 in the atmosphere and pollution are driving some of it but even then its too soon to have this kind of effect. Probably the best way to account for it is a combination of increasingly poor diets, rapid aging, lower phenotypic robustness responding in a volatile way to mutation and relaxed selection leading to lower iq couplings which outpace the upper middle class in fecundity. But, even then no one really knows what is happening just that the flynn effect is reversing.

>> No.10606361

>>10601888
>However we still don't know how some populations such as Ashkenazi Jews have such an astronomically high IQ compared to the human average.
Jews can only think in 2d. So its more efficient to process data with less dimensions. However that doesn't make them good in the long run. They are parasites to every country they're in because they can only think in 2d.

>> No.10606364

>>10602099
In Europe for example, Muslims have the highest birthrate but the lowest iq.

>> No.10606380

>>10601841
>data gets renormalized to a mean of 100 therefore we can't compare populations over time
is u srs rn

>> No.10606457

>>10606361
Jews think in 5d. That's why they are the most important part of Western civilization. Without Jews we would still be living in the stone age.

>> No.10606464

>>10601836
EMF, shit food, the anti-sugar meme, high stress, nihilism.

>> No.10606497
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>>10601836
Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!

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>>10606457
>That's why they are the most important part of Western civilization. Without Jews we would still be living in the stone age.

I have a crazy quirk, Eugene. I like to say what I think. And if you’re gonna work for the Jews, you can no longer say what you think. You can’t say the holocaust never happened, for example. That is an absolute no-no. You can’t say that circumcision is a crime. There are so many things you cannot say once you get on the Jewish bandwagon. … There used to be a lot of people like me, but little by little the Jewish spirit seems to be conquering all.

>> No.10606516

>>10606457
More like stopping jews everything progresses after being held back after jew is defeated

>> No.10606564

>>10602044
Yeah. If you are raised in an environment that encourages physical activity you will range in it and gain the fruits of said health benefit of working you body. Same for people raised in families that encourage academic pursuits or have educated parents.

>> No.10606566

>>10606290
There's a lot of them lol. Not saying they are all hitting 100's but it's in the 80s

>> No.10606587

>>10606500
There are so many things you are not allowed to say, Jew and non-Jew related things. That is the price you pay for living in a civilization. But that doesn't make it less true that Western civilization was not possible without Jews. I do agree with you that living in the post modern West has turned us all into Jews.

>> No.10606644

>>10606500
based and chesspilled

>> No.10606698

>>10605350
>Previously, people would only take the test when they were suspected of being smart.
This is wrong.

In my country we have national service and as part of the process we are given a medical checkup that includes a brief intelligence test. Statistics from this (including weight and height) has been published and used since WWII at least.

>> No.10606706

>>10606361
>Jews can only think in 2d.
Of all the weird things I have seen in these IQ discussions, that one really takes the biscuit. Thus: cite???

>> No.10606714

>>10606706
Have you seen a flying jew? They are inherently incapable of perceiving the world in higher dimensions. FACT

>> No.10606728

>>10601836
because of socialism
please listen to stefan molyneux

>> No.10606747

>>10606698
You live in Africa or Nepal do you? No? Then shut the fuck up, smoothbrain.

>> No.10606758

>>10606747
Since when was "people" restricted to Africa and Nepal? You fail to make sense.

>> No.10606783

>>10606564
No it's not their culture, I agree with everything you've said except this. Go to the gym or grow up around black guys, they have naturally better physical genetics. Most bodybuilders will tell you this.

Cant say about intellect, but the body is for sure.

>> No.10606839

>>10606783
>Go to the gym or grow up around black guys, they have naturally better physical genetics.
This is only the case for ex-slave black people such as African Americans or South American blacks.

This isn't the case for Africans at all. And yes they are very different. Ex-slave africans were selected for physical performance over 400 years. That's longer than some dog breeds have existed for and look how different those dog breeds look from each other.

>> No.10606854

>>10606587
jews literally only invented the shit parts desu

>> No.10606863

>>10606783

Not him but it is culture. Not all blacks are physically gifted and the sub-populations that do have such attributes have it because of activities that promotes it or because they view it as the main way for success. If you think African Americans came to America born with the genes to play basketball, baseball and football which they didn't even knew existed/ centuries prior to it's institution then you have problems.

It the same situation with intellect. East Asians keep telling you and showing you that that doing well in academia is based on the hours you put in, but everyone is obsessed with saying they are naturally smart. Wanting to ignore the +14 hour school days they put their kids through in China and South Korea. Wanting to ignore the high amount of hours they put into homework compared to other demographics in the U.S.. Wanting to ignore the +1000 years of testing culture through the imperial exams that Western societies literally based part of their own civil exams on.

The human brain and body are malleable, especially at a young age. Yes, there is a genetic component to this but the vast majority of talented people are the way they are because they have been trained/exposed/indoctrinated.

>> No.10606960 [DELETED] 

>>10605175
>the IQ of the population is COMPLETELY AND DIRECTLY related to the IQ of the nation
Wow how should I know right? It's not like Asia is supposed to have an astronomically high IQ and was an abhorrent shithole, right?
Dictatorships and the indifference of European nations towards them are also solvable just by increasing the IQ lmao.

>> No.10608013

>>10601841
based, absolute retard that doesn't understand IQ

>> No.10608025

>>10601836
outbreeding and there is strategic benefit to having a large class of worker drones

>> No.10608029

>>10608025
>Outbreeding
Explain how white people are the only demographic in the world with a rising fertility rate? >>10602099

>> No.10608268

>>10601888
This is the most merchant post I’ve ever seen. Please consider moving to israel.

>> No.10608905

>>10601925
the last paragraph you pulled it out of your ass right?

>> No.10608937

>>10601841
This. IQ staying at 100 is one of the main forces preventing a decline of intelligence at the moment. If ever we start to slide down, we can renorm the tests and create a shockwave of neural growth worldwide.

>> No.10608941

>>10608905
Nope. It's correct.

>> No.10608945

>>10606783
I believe it is the other way around, no? Intellect is genetic but physical prowess not so much.

>> No.10608980

>>10606783
>Go to the gym
>If you cherry pick for a specific trait you can get data that correlates with my worldview.
Yes I agree people in gyms are more physically fit than the average person.

>or grow up around black guys
Anecdotes are not evidence.

>> No.10610313

>>10601846
>>10601848
flynn effect has been dead a long time, redditors

>> No.10610328

>>10601836
I'm not reading through this thread to see if someone has already posted it - but read At Our Wit's End by Edward Dutton if you are truly interested. Anyone in here suggesting the flynn effect means it isn't falling is a disgusting retard from reddit

>> No.10610331

>>10610328
The average IQ has risen by 30 points in the last 20 years. It rose by 20 points in India and 15 points in China in the same period.

It rose 3 point in the west.

Average IQ is booming right now.

>> No.10610332

>>10608980
Blacks are the most elite athletes on the planet and universally dominate fast twitch muscle fiber heavy sports you fucking retarded faggot. there are hundreds of thousands of white college athletes who would give anything, and have vastly more familial resources for training, to be able to compete at the highest level in the Olympics or American pro sports leagues but are passed over because of inferior performance to blacks from poorer neighborhoods who if athleticism were evenly distributed in each racial subpopulation come from a smaller pool of people and should not be as overrepresented as they are. Unless you think we systematically bias all athletic competitions so a small number of poor blacks can win then there is no explanation other than that they are inherently better at these sports.

>> No.10610334

>>10610331
iq hasn't risen at all in the west in the last two decades, citing different nations filled with a growing middle class who are outbreeding everyone else who were literally starving for most of their existence doesn't prove its existence. Digit span, vocabulary scores and reaction time aren't increasing, the most g loaded subtests have not increased in any populations in the third world.

>> No.10610338

>>10610334
Average IQ is rising because of the internet. It's far easier for smart men to manipulate women to have sex with them.

Wealth is highly correlated with IQ as well and internet has made it easier for wealthy men to connect to attractive poor women which means sexual partners are selected for high intelligence.

Meaning over time intelligence is booming.

>> No.10610344

>>10610338
Except that intelligence is inversely correlated with number of children, so your post is a bunch of BS.

>> No.10610352

>>10601846
>We're not, that chart goes directly against the Flynn effect,

No, Flynn effect compares IQ scores in individual countries. That chart is global. Turns out average IQ increased in most countries but decreases globally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox

>> No.10610356

>>10610344
Not anymore. That was the case in the early 2000s. What happened then is that fertility rate among lower-class plummeted and now high class people are the only ones with a rising fertility rate.

>>10602099

>> No.10610362

>>10602099
Your own picture disproves your claims you retard. Fertility rate of African countries has decreased but is still above whites and asians, who also decreased.

>> No.10610365

>>10610356
Source? i call bs

>> No.10610368

>>10610356
High class people meaning people who earn well over $250,000/yr, the upper middle class as in people who make 100-250k/yr have lower fertility rates than everyone else, there are not even remotely enough millionaires to compete with the fertility of the bottom 80%, the vast majority of the population is getting dumber.

>> No.10610370

>>10610362
The fertility rate in African nations have dropped the hardest while the fertility rate of white people have actually grown on average. White people are the only demographic that has a growing fertility rate while every other demographic has a plummeting fertility rate.

It's expected that by 2050 white people are outbreeding everyone and Africans will have the lowest fertility rate in the world. There's already UN research being done to try and keep african fertility rates up.

Also the average IQ in Africa has gone from ~60s in 1970 to ~90s in 2014. The average IQ in Africa is higher than in places like Russia nowadays for example.

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>>10610356
here is a plot from 2015, you are wrong, fertility is inversely correlated with intelligence/wealth as usual

>> No.10610379

>>10610370
you are lying, demographic projections show that white people fertility rate may increase from 1.6 to 1.8 under optimistic scenario and that is it

on the other hand, africans will decrease to 2.0 - 3.0, which is a large decrease compared to the past but by far not enough to change the big picture

african population is set to quadruple over next century, and this is according to 2017 UN data

https://population.un.org/wpp/

>> No.10610380

>>10610370
Every single thing you said is wrong

>> No.10610383

>>10610374
The IQ in the countries with the highest fertility rates also have the highest growth in average IQ causing the average global IQ to boom.

The lowest national averages were in the 60s a couple of decades ago. Now the lowest are in the 80s and in the 2020s all countries will have an average in the 90s at lowest.

If this trend continues we'll have an average global IQ of 110 instead of 90 like it's now. That's clearly a world that is getting smarter on average.

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>>10610370
>The average IQ in Africa is higher than in places like Russia nowadays for example.

Complete bullshit.

>> No.10610389

>>10610383
More idiocy from you. Average IQ in Africa is increasing however it is increasing from 60-70 to 80-90. It will still drag the global average down. Learn some statistics you dumb fuck.

>> No.10610396

>>10610383
>That's clearly a world that is getting smarter on average.

No. Right now we have a world with 1 billion whites at IQ 100 and 1 billion africans at IQ 70. In the future we will have 700 million whites at IQ 100 and 4 billion africans at IQ 85.

So the world is getting dumber on average.

>> No.10610398

>>10610389
Other places have lower IQ than 80-90. Especially South America and Eastern Europe/Russia.

It's expected the average IQ of african countries will slowly overtake that of South African and Eastern European nations. Especially as the average IQ of African nations were suppressed by famines but now that famines are rare their brains have enough resources to properly grow to their potential.

There are some theories that Africans might have the highest IQ if given enough resources to properly cultivate.

African Americans and other ex-slave africans are low IQ because they have been specifically bred for hundreds of years to be physically strong but mentally weak.

>> No.10610400

>>10610396
Lowest IQ in Africa is 88 right now.

>> No.10610404
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>>10610383
This whole post is delusional. There is no systematic monitoring of IQ and African countries do not participate in IQ substitute tests like PISA, but it's very doubtful the Flynn effect is increasing at such a rate it balances out their massive growth in population relative to high IQ countries. Also, don't forget African countries are experiencing dysgenic fertility themselves as well, the best educated and wealthiest have substantially fewer children.
>>10610356
Dysgenic fertility for men may have ended or reversed in developed countries, but for women it's still pretty bad, driven by greater education and work commitments for smarter women.

>> No.10610406

>>10610398
>>10610386

Source for your bullshit. This picture already proved you wrong. There is no expectation at all that Africans will exceed eastern europe.

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>>10610396
>In the future we will have 700 million whites at IQ 100 and 4 billion africans at IQ 85.
White people are the only ones with a growing fertility rate. By 2050 the white population is expected to have grown by 20% compared to 2000.

Meanwhile the African population will shrink from 2050 onwards.

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>>10610400
>Lowest IQ in Africa is 88 right now.

No. Stop polluting this thread with your made up data.

>> No.10610420

>>10602095
Sodium fluoride can reduce IQ up to 20 points.

t. Infowars

>> No.10610425

>>10610404
Notice how in your picture you see PhD/MD, Bachelors and professional are the only one with a rising fertility rate.

Under HS and HS have the biggest drop. If you extrapolate from this you can easily see how eventually only wealthy, highly educated people will have children.

The Internet caused harsh competition for low IQ individuals while rich highly educated people have the upper hand.

This entire "incel" epidemic we are seeing right now is because the lowest educated useless people are being removed from the genepool.

If anything we're heading towards an utopia where only high IQ people are living.

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>>10610408
More blatant lies. European population is destined to shrink over the next century, while africa will quadruple to 4 billion. your picture shows global fertility rate, not divided by continents.

>> No.10610428

>>10610415
>Israel is yellow
This entire map immediately invalidated.

Jews have an average IQ of 135

>> No.10610430

>>10610425
this must be a troll post, nobody can be so dumb

>> No.10610433

>>10601836
The more stupid a person is the more child he/she has.
The more smarter a person is the less child he/she has.

>> No.10610434

>>10610428
Askhenazi jews only, when you take into account all jews and also minorities in israel, you get 90 something

>> No.10610440

>>10610428
>Jews have an average IQ of 135

>Studies have generally found Ashkenazi Jews to have an average IQ in the range of 107 to 115

They are high but not that high

>> No.10610444

>>10610440
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews_in_Israel

>> No.10610447

>>10610425
I'm pretty sure you don't understand the graph. Age is along the x axis, showing the number of children for each woman in 2016. That is, at every age cohort, people with no HS diploma have had more children. PhDs have moved up a bit in the ranking, but PhDs represent a couple percent of the population.

>> No.10610448

>>10610440
Nah there are a lot of /pol/ statistics that show they are at 135 but try to hide it by including other forms of "ashkenazi" jews in the average so that it doesn't look suspicious that their IQ is so absurdly high compared to other demographics.

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>>10610408
European TFRs are still falling, along with the rest of the world, despite mass migration of high birth rate minorities.

>> No.10610621

>>10610448
Nope. Ashkenazi jews are 107-115, while other types of Jews such as the middle eastern ones are in the low 80's range, which is why Israel is so low. Show me one statistic that shows otherwise.

>>10610444
As he said they're only 2 million while israel is 8 million

>> No.10611014

>>10610338
>Average IQ is rising because of the internet. It's far easier for smart men to manipulate women to have sex with them.
This is about advantages for utter psychopaths, not about IQ in general.

>> No.10611220

>>10610415
Why those anomalies around India? Also Thailand seems oddly different from its neighbours.

>> No.10611518

>>10602100
They gave her IQ tests for children which can't be compared to adult IQ tests.

>> No.10611605

>>10610415

Why is it that every map keeps highlighting Nigeria as red when the actual IQ is 80-84?

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-in-nigeria.html

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-systematic-literature-review-of-the-average-IQ-of-Wicherts-Dolan/0c14de5a9f7de7f6e09d55752b4dc736026b3e61

>> No.10611674

>>10610621
>115
Even those figure are obtained with ~30 ashk. jews. As the sample increases, the figure goes down. The average ashkenazi IQ in Israel is like 105.

>> No.10612071

>>10601836
your family keeps reproducing

>> No.10612080

>>10601836
>>10601836
when you account for the flynn effect I think any decrease in IQ scores is from the differences in the types of tests used back then. BAck then the tests were much more fact and language based then now, they also had worse design and were implemented poorly. So IQ records from back then can't really be trusted.
>>10601846
Actually it kinda does work in an opposite way, an IQ of 120 in the 1820s adjusted for the flynn effect is an IQ of 100 now. So really the avarage IQ has gone down because a metric of 100 IQ in the past is around an 80 now.

>> No.10612089

>>10612080
>Actually it kinda does work in an opposite way, an IQ of 120 in the 1820s adjusted for the flynn effect is an IQ of 100 now. So really the avarage IQ has gone down because a metric of 100 IQ in the past is around an 80 now.

So by this logic IQ should be thought of as similar to a currency where 100 dollars is always 100 dollars but how much you can buy for 100 changes over time.
Rather than IQ going up or down it has inflation and deflation. Wonder if you could plot average IQ against average wages and find the relative exchange rate for a single IQ point.

>> No.10612091

>>10612089
I will amend my question to say average IQ in a given job/field/degree and average wages for that work. Obviously average IQ is 100.

>> No.10612343

>>10601836
Niggers are given food and they reproduce more.

>> No.10612685

>>10610398
found the nigga

>> No.10612708

>>10611220
>>10611605
It's a fake /pol/ map that's why.

>> No.10612710

>>10603178
African slave masters sold only the worst.

>> No.10612711

>>10603178
They were literally bred to have low intelligence for hundreds of years.

>> No.10612717

>>10606516
Off the top of my head, without Jews, there would likely be no knowledge of:
- photoelectric effect
- special or general relativity
- quantum electrodynamics
- quantum computation
- Chern-Simons theory
- Deutsch gate

This further means that without Jews, there would have been no GPS systems or computers.

>> No.10612722

>>10606644
Bob Fischer was partially Jewish. Maybe entirely.

>> No.10612731

>>10612717
- DNA
- Game Theory
- Von Neumann architecture
- Industrial revolution
- Calculus
- Gravity/physics in general (Newton had Jewish ancestry)

It's save to say white people would still sit in castles and huts if Jewish people didn't exist.

>> No.10612736

>>10612731
Not sure of all of those, and I wouldn't go as far as to say all of modernity would otherwise be impossible, but my point is theoretical physics (for example, which is upstream of most fundamental progress in technology) would be considerably worse off without Jews.

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>>10601888
>Now Mozambique has an average IQ in the 90s higher than places such as Russia, Ukraine etc.

He's not wrong in that, as there has been some exponential growth in intelligence for some reason, which may not be able to be explained.

It's undeniable that Africans are getting smarter for some reason, which might even spread.

In a few decades, it may be that Africans may have higher averages than ethnic Europeans.

>> No.10612783

>>10612731
> DNA
Discovered by Friedrich Miescher
>Game Theory
Sure
>Von Neumann architecture
Ok
>Industrial revolution
Give names please
>Calculus Gravity/physics in general (Newton had Jewish ancestry)
Neither newton or Liebnitz had jewish ancestory.
>Gravity/physics in general (Newton had Jewish ancestry)
No he fucking didn't

>> No.10612790

>>10612770
Yep this shit is amazing. People are always negative and looking at everything as if it is a threat. In reality fertility rates are dropping globally while IQ is literally rising in every country. And booming in africa.

I wish /pol/ would just look at the actual numbers for a moment instead of just making conclusion based on bait and random images with no sources.

>> No.10612795

>>10612783
>No he fucking didn't
Yes he did.

"Newton was born Yizhak Newtonovitch to Moishe and Hannah Newtonovitch in the Hassidic community of Wiliamberg Brooklyn on the first day of Chanukah in 1642. His father, an itinerant mohel, moved his family to the British countryside when Yizhak was an infant, hearing that the area had few mohels to compete with him. Moishe (who looked remarkably like Lawrence Olivier) wanted Yizhak to become a cantor, but Yizhak aspired to be a physicist after being fascinated as a child by the angular momentum properties of dreidels.

Despite anglicizing his name, Newton retained many Jewish mannerisms and traits. His seminal treatise Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica begins with “You want to know what keeps the planets in orbit when they go around the sun? You want to know? OK, big shot, I’ll tell you why...” He said of his scientific adversary Robert Hooke “The man is not fit to be a shabbos goy!” He described Aristotle’s theory of gravity as “quite meshugganah”, and constantly protested that Liebniz’s claims about being the first to invent calculus were ”not quite kosher”.

Newton spent his later years retired in Miami Florida, and was buried in Forest Lawn."

Source:
https://www.quora.com/Was-Isaac-Newton-Jewish

>> No.10612802

>>10612795
>Quora
give me an actuall source retard.

>> No.10612810

>>10612795
Here's the second paragraph of that quora answer:
His seminal treatise Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica begins with “You want to know what keeps the planets in orbit when they go around the sun? You want to know? OK, big shot, I’ll tell you why...” He said of his scientific adversary Robert Hooke “The man is not fit to be a shabbos goy!” He described Aristotle’s theory of gravity as “quite meshugganah”, and constantly protested that Liebniz’s claims about being the first to invent calculus were ”not quite kosher”.

>> No.10612815

>>10612795
White people are basically WE WUZ.

Almost every big scientist was Jewish yet if his contribution is big enough he'll be considered white.

>> No.10612837

>>10612810
Why are you replying to yourself? And as far as the quotes go i can't find them, give me page numbers.

>> No.10614299

because we cant think for ourselves.
peer review and authority blocks. university and being closed to creative out of the box solutions. being scared to challenge the status quo. and fear of being a renegade (the lone terrorist). and mass media (truth)

>> No.10614311

>>10612815
Not even remotely close to true faggot

>> No.10614320

Were not, its literally impossible for us to become dumber as food availability and quality goes up worldwide

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>>10614320
Decreased evolutionary pressure makes intelligence less likely to be propagated as a trait, not more, brainlet.

>> No.10614339

>>10612790
>I wish /pol/ would just look at the actual numbers for a moment instead of just making conclusion based on bait and random images with no sources

Same to you fren

>> No.10614490

>>10606839
Then why are black Africans so overrepresented in sports in europe

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>>10601836
>Why are we getting dumber?

If we could just figure out why?
What is changing in world demographics?... HMMM

>> No.10614557

>>10601836
>>10614553
THE IQ CHART OVER TIME IS FAKE YOU FUCKING BRAINLETS

>> No.10614567

>>10606839
So you’re saying that families of white athletes aren’t selecting for athleticism better than slave owners loosely pairing up robust nigs or are you saying that the starting material for the one is worse than the other?

>> No.10614569

>>10614557
>THE IQ CHART OVER TIME IS FAKE YOU FUCKING BRAINLETS

But the Demographics chart is NOT fake.

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>>10614553
>changing in world demographics
What is Fetal mortality rate? Durrrrrrrrr

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>>10614607
>What is Fetal mortality rate? Durrrrrrrrr

Yet the population is exploding.

>> No.10614648

>>10614633
>Yet the population is exploding.
Because they are aware most of their children won't make it. That's why they're fucking having so many children desu.

>> No.10614657

>>10614648
>they are aware most of their children won't make it

THEY are wrong... most of them will live because those evil racist white people are introducing vaccinations, clean water with nutritious food, and basic prenatal care.

>> No.10614671

>>10614490

Not him but the very nature of professional sports in terms of team quantity can easily lend itself to over representation in multiple ways. Sports teams are small in general, a soccer team for example is 23 players. In France the black population is roughly 3.5%, so having more than one player could count as ""over representation".

There's also the issue that despite the European Union existing. European countries still desire autonomy in a number of areas so the idea of said countries constantly sparring over owning each other's best white athletes could get ugly. As at that point now you get into nationalism debates where citizens from each side could call white athletes switching countries traitors. And since it's established that athletes in general tend to be liken as folk heroes to a nation. That image would start to fall apart. So it's easier to get auxiliary players somewhere else if possible.

A third way involves population dynamics. Specifically inducing an artificial bottleneck where factors can filter out the norms and only keeps the outliers. In this case scouting potential extreme outliers from a continental population (Africa) of over a billion by choosing the 0.0001% of the population.

>> No.10614691

>>10614657
>most of them will live
>because those evil racist white people
Irrelevant. If you want demographics to change, then stop helping them.
Also BTFO the chinks, too many of them started investing there with their pseudo colonies.

>> No.10614706

>>10614671
you’re fucking insane

The national teams for Jamaica, Kenya, Cameroon, Ethiopia all far outperform elite programs in homogenous nations like China, Russia and Japan. America is 70% white european and despite the lack of necessity for european american athletes to seek out wealth through athletics there is still a massive prestige factor to high levels of achievement in the olympics and pro sports. There are thousands of elite sports families who go out of their way to assortatively mate between D1 and pro/oly athletes whose spawn in spite of the best breeding, copious amounts of training from the best coaches and facilities cannot compete with inner city hs track athletes, football and basketball players. There is no other explanation than blacks of west african descent being genetically more suited for physical activities that require explosive movements. Ive seen kids who trained from age 10-18 every single day to play skilled positions in fb get absolutely wrecked by pot smoking coke heads from terrible hs programs and the only difference between them was that one was european and the other african. Every single athletic white in the UK wants to play soccer in the premier league and yet black africans from malnourished communities in war torn nations far outperform them as wingers, strikers, attacking mids, why is that?

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>>10614569
>imagine being this brain dead
Please stay on your containment board
>>>/pol/

>> No.10614772

>>10614706
> There is no other explanation than blacks of west african descent being genetically more suited for physical activities that require explosive movements. Ive seen kids who trained from age 10-18 every single day to play skilled positions in fb get absolutely wrecked by pot smoking coke heads from terrible hs programs and the only difference between them was that one was european and the other african. Every single athletic white in the UK wants to play soccer in the premier league and yet black africans from malnourished communities in war torn nations far outperform them as wingers, strikers, attacking mids, why is that?

Lol this ass mad kid.

>> No.10614777

>>10614772
Anyone who says those people in those nations don't train or it's just genes are ass mad folk who can't admit that nigger beat their nation through training. Track and field is basically given up as sport to western nations because they don;t even bother to try or pick out talented people.

>> No.10614780

>>10614777
>Every single athletic white in the UK wants to play soccer in the premier league and yet black africans from malnourished communities in war torn nations far outperform them as wingers, strikers, attacking mids, why is that?

Hell by that logic why are African teams so lacking?

>> No.10616258

>>10612810
You get one Bazinga! but still need to provide sources.

>> No.10616262

n words

>> No.10616265

>>10601836
We're not just getting dumber.
We're getting more prone to disease.
We're getting physically weaker
Our vision, hearing, and smell senses are getting weaker

It's because exponential population growth implies that virtually everyone reproduces, including weaklings. But not to worry, soon once exponential population growth ceases, the weak will be slaughtered in vast numbers and natural selection will once again resume as god intended.

>> No.10617472

>>10610338
Absolutely retarded post. You should feel guilt and leave

>> No.10617918

>>10601836
Chemtrails, garbage food, and microwave radiation. It actually started with radio.

>> No.10617926

>>10601914
Based Hitler thinning the herd and giving survivors the ability to guilt Europeans for infinity

>> No.10617937

>>10601925
Well, no, there's also nepotism and Jewish colonisation of the European mind at an extremely deep religious and ideological level, as well as Jewish positioning within key institutions.

The first part I kinda buy. There are also internal structures within the religion that would make it hard to be a low IQ Jew and that would thus encourage out-conversion or the creation of alter kochers who don't have sex. For example, Jewish support for lying. (Hard to be around as a dummy.) And needing to learn multiple languages to operate as a trader and a person who gets religiously educated in both Hebrew and Aramaic (for the Torah and Talmud). Plus the rabbis (the smarties) and the best merchants getting the women and having the most kids, whereas Euros shipped their best off to the seminary to not have sex and left the money making to Jews.

>> No.10617939

>>10616265
proudly claims 4chan slob from his mothers basement, unaware of which side he'll be on

>> No.10617941

>>10601836
Blacks breed more than whites

>> No.10617976

>>10601888
I'm actually a jew and i was always better then Asians at math and shit during school etc. so i guess this makes sense. My friends used to joke about me secretly being Asian, haha.

Honestly though the best part of being Jewish is i can choose to be white, People treat me as white but if someone goes on a tirade about how whites are trash i can say I'm a jew, not white and they are like "Oh sorry".

>> No.10618011

Because believe it or not, we're turning into a hivemind... Of sorts.

You see, before you'd have to pretty much be able to do fucking everything yourself. A prehistoric hunter-gatherer would put any modern "survival specialist" or "adventurer" to shame. They could run faster, longer, and pretty much survive in any conditions and climate (and they did). That takes skill. That takes toughness. That takes not being a fucking retard who shoves crayons up his nose. Because there's no police or rescue service or food bank in the wild.

Then the groups started to compete more and more with each other, and not with Nature (transitioning into sedentary agriculture) - it required vastly more organization and teamwork to get shit done. This is where you started to get stratification into specific castes (leaders - warriors - workers).

Now we're seeing even further unification on a global scale. Yes, it's not all pretty, but that's irrelevant: our productivity and intellectual output is exponential, not linear. As a result, we're seeing ever more diversification and specialization (look around your room, how much of that stuff that you use, that you depend on, do you think *you* could make? You don't have the right tools, sure, but do you think you could even make those tools? Or the tools to make *those* tools? None of us can. We're becoming more and more specialized. I know how to do my job, but it affects like 1% of my life, maybe. The other 99% of my life, from clothing to food production to ensuring the water quality to regulating the standards of lightbulbs, I know absolutely nothing about. Because I don't have to. I depend on the collective to do that for me.

As a result, everybody's a bit of a Fachidiot. By necessity, because modern life is too complex for one person to encompass all of it by themselves. We've encapsulated ourselves. We're turning into drones/cells for the greater organism: human society.

>> No.10618093

>>10614706

>Every single athletic white in the UK wants to play soccer in the premier league and yet black africans from malnourished communities in war torn nations far outperform them as wingers, strikers, attacking mids, why is that?

Extreme outliers anon, you keep forgetting the most fundamental part of this entire issue. You are pulling out the 0.0001% of their population to compete athletically. What about the other 99.9999% who can't compete or don't compete as nearly as well?

You harp about Black Africans but ignore the fact Africa hasn't even won a single world cup.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/sports/fifa-world-cup-only-8-countries-claimed-trophy-so-far/1168419

How is it that according to your logic that Black Africans are so athletically gifted that countries teaming with them can't win a single world cup? What is your explanation for this?

>> No.10618100

>>10601836
niggers

>> No.10618107

Too much sugar and not enough fat in the diet

>> No.10618136

>>10614706
can u pls take ur cuck fetish back to /pol/ where it belongs? thanks

>> No.10618378

>>10618011
Sounds like a dumb hypothesis, no evidence

>> No.10618408

Surely it must not be because the IQ test relies on memory and that gotta be the most degenerated part of our brain since we don't require to store as much information as before due to technological advances?

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>>10618408
Real IQ tests require 0 memory skills.

You're most likely thinking of "IQ tests" like pic related that ask completely irrelevant questions.

>> No.10618551

>>10601836
We're not. We're just becoming lazy. Sure enough, our ability to remember things declines but laziness provokes creativity. Look around. Modernization is part of what you called "dumbing of human beings".

>> No.10618570

>>10618414
>Real IQ tests require 0 memory skills.
Technically they do if you want to score higher than usual.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/001316448004000310

. Verbal IQ estimates were stable (one IQ point increase), but significant practice effects were obtained on Performance and Full Scale IQ estimates (8 and 5 IQ point increases, respectively)

It's a cheat, but using your memory helps you cheat and improve your results. So, if anything, using your memory is a basic IQ cheat.
Henceforth asians having such "high IQ's".

>> No.10618576

>>10618408
>>10618414
lol you fucking retard

>> No.10618581

>>10618570
you’re so fucking stupid why would you embarrass yourself saying something like this you dumb monkey nigger

>> No.10618582

>>10618551
COPE

>> No.10618702

Relying on government to stop problems that government creates. Du. After all how can you grow when your demanding to be babied by a collective of crocks?

>> No.10618718

>>10601836
We aren’t. Average IQ is climbing continually in the developed world and will do so until it reaches a plateau.

>> No.10619769

>>10618093
>You harp about Black Africans but ignore the fact Africa hasn't even won a single world cup.

They actually do have the palyerbase to win one BUT national teams just can't attract enough talent. People either play for another nation OR don't participate in worlds.

>> No.10619796

>>10618718
can you explain to me why you think its plateaued elsewhere and why you think that the iq of european populations will equal that of subsaharan africans?

>> No.10619805

>>10619796
>why you think that the iq of european populations will equal that of subsaharan africans?

Don't think he explicit said or implied that.

>> No.10619814

>>10619805
>iq is climbing continually and will cont to do so in the developing world until it plateaus
Ok so this implies that iq has plateaued elsewhere ie Europe, America and East Asia or at least that it isn’t rising as quickly. there are many questions that arise from this: why is this the case? will there be parity across continents? will both groups level off and stagnate in their growth and does this necessitate equal intelligence avg between groups?

If you aren’t interested in the thread don’t reply especially to other people’s posts not directed at you.

>> No.10619822

>>10601836
>Why are we getting dumber?

psychopaths don't want any competition, so they rig the civilization through social engineering to make sure that only stupid people breed, thus ensuring that the next generation will be too stupid to seek freedom.

way of the world, i'm afraid... history is circular.

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>>10601836
notice anything?

>> No.10620154

>>10601848
A single study of Norwegian conscripts extrapolated out for 100 years.
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2004-18377-003

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>>10619822
tool using species that relies on intelligence in making better tools to survive, eventually cannibilizing itself in the search for BRAIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSS and destroying itself....

How odd that this plot is typical for earth history.

>> No.10620723

>>10620085
Oceanic ubermensh getting outbred by wh*Toids and niggers. Shame

>> No.10620751

>>10601836
niggers

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>>10618414
>>10618576
Well, the major part of IQ is that you get high IQ if you agree on one unique answer. There is little correlation between rationailty and IQ, since high IQ peopela almost universally agree on and are exceptionally sure about a certain answer, even though it isn't necessarily the true one. A lot of it is also cultural, children raised in the west nearly universally agree on a, other children jsut as universally agree on b.

>> No.10621000

>>10601888
> Now Mozambique has an average IQ in the 90s higher than places such as Russia, Ukraine etc.

>>10612770

https://brainstats.com/average-iq-in-mozambique.html

Hmmm who could have been behind these posts.

Anyway, IQ is not some abstract universal constant and changes with respect to selection, however we do not see this selection happening in Africa (or at least not on an appropriate scale).

>> No.10621006

>>10612770
Did you really just edit the avg IQ in paint?
also:
>World ranking 17
Kek

>> No.10621114

>>10601853
No it's because of the RACISTS like you breeding and passing on your close-minded, divisive, destructive bullshit that would have us in endless cycles of war, destroying our civilization entirely, and wasting vast amounts of non-renewable resources merely to kill and destroy.
Go fuck yourself racist asshole.

>> No.10621158

>>10621000
>Hmmm who could have been behind these posts.
The entire list is highly suspicious. For instance, why should Norway, Sweden and Denmark differ? Also, if Southern Europe is doing so badly, why is Italy such a beacon of light?

Also, if starvation is the cause of low IQ in Africa, what about the African countries that never had such problems? Not all parts of Africa are arid deserts.

>> No.10621170

>>10602100
much of the children's IQ tests are based on fine motor control, so the results are totally skewed.
Gorillas, chimps, orangutans, et all master fine motor earlier than humans.

>> No.10621260

>>10621170
Apes have no fine motor skills whatsoever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFACrIx5SZ0

>> No.10621730

>>10621158
malnutrition is a thing, quality, access and time of education really matter.

>> No.10621733

>>10621730
and IQ is growing a lot on the continent.

>> No.10621745

>>10621730
cause and effect... effect and cause? which is it? Oh I know which one it is for you, because you are that same whiny snivelling little faggot that sees racist boogiemen behind every post.

>> No.10621751

>>10601836
Shitskin birth rates are going up as White and East Asian birth rates are going down. It’s as simple as that.

>> No.10621764

>>10621745
I'm not that guy anon. Stop trying to pick fights.

>> No.10621775

>>10621158
>The entire list is highly suspicious. For instance, why should Norway, Sweden and Denmark differ?

Different selection perhaps. For example, the Baltic people are much closer to one another genetically than the Scandis are to one another. Yet in spite of a very high IBD, the selection played out in such a way that Estonia has the highest IQ of the three and its average value is considerably higher than that of Lithuania's.

Now so far we have only looked at the average value, but I am fairly certain that the variance and hence the SD would also have different values for these populations (for example, Lithuania has a considerably higher amount of Nobel prize winners than Estonia does in spite of the population not being all that much higher- ~2x the population with Lithuania having 3 prizes vs Estonia's 0). Some populations may have a low variance, some may have a high variance and this may or may not correspond to actual overall genetic variation of a group.

IQ's genetic component would only be a small part of the overall genome so you cannot exactly extrapolate relatedness and variance between populations to their specific characteristics like intelligence.

So, there is/are indeed genetic component(s) to IQ but they are not straightforward and are a result of dynamic complex selection which never stops.

>> No.10621776

>>10601888
Jew/10

>> No.10621827

>>10612731
Nice try. Jews need the West. The West does not need the Jews. It as always been this way. Outside of the West/Western Institutions Jews have contributed fascist religions to the world and that's it. Without the West Jews would have literally gone extinct. Plus all Jews are just admixtures of European genetics. Their maternal line is European, they're not even fucking Jewish by their own standards lol

>> No.10621836

>>10612731
lol imagine being an ugly little white person who's a member of cult that unironically believes its genetically superior to white people.

>> No.10622046

>>10601925
Because only Ashkenazi were persecuted for sacrificing babies and putting sick rats in wells right? Idiot.

>> No.10622386

>>10621000
if you think brainstats, a site based on richard lynn's work is credible (someone who's global iq work has been systematically discredited), you're retarded.

>> No.10622406

>>10621158

Not him but while starvation is an issue, malnutrition is the bigger problem. Starvation is the lack of sufficient consumption for general survival while malnutrition is the lack sufficient nutrients for optimal organ functionality. You can avoid starvation but suffer from malnutrition and research proves that lack of specific nutrients will heavily impact cognition/IQ. The lack of Iodine by itself during both prenatal and early childhood constitutes 8-12 IQ point loss.

>> No.10623156

>>10622386
I never said that it is unparalleled in its credibility. I simply replied to someone who edited the Mozambique average IQ page (to make it look like they have an average IQ of 90) and exposed his fraudulence for what it is.

Anyone who read my reply/comment along with the comment I posted my reply to can see that.

>> No.10623162

>>10622406
What about protein consumption. Someone who gets roughly 2,000 calories a day but is eating like 20 grams of proteins is probably not optimized, right? But what would the impact of such a lifestyle be like? I know that a regular sedentary man is advised to eat like 50 or 60 grams of proteins a day, but what happens if this person consumes between one third to half of the recommendation? How many IQ points would such an individual lose if they grew up this way? 1 point? 5 points? 10 points?

>> No.10623587

>>10621730
Do Denmark sees more malnutrition than Norway? Really? Also IQ tests should be independent of education, otherwise the test is worthless.

>> No.10623608

>>10621775
>Yet in spite of a very high IBD
What is IBD? InBreeDing?

>> No.10623658

>>10623608
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_by_descent

>> No.10624092

>>10623156
The Mozambique guy is full of shit too probably, but fighting shit with a source that’s also full of shit is simply bad argumentation.

Richard Lynn’s work regarding international IQs has absolutely no credibility — it’s not just a little off, it is simply not based on reality.

>> No.10624317

>>10623658
Thanks. Interesting stuff.

>> No.10624452

>>10624092
Are you even listening to me? I never claimed that the source is correct. I was chastising the guy for editing the original source.