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>The Soviet historian I. Y. Depman claimed that even earlier, in 1486, Spanish mathematician Valmes was burned at the stake for claiming to have solved the quartic equation.[3] Inquisitor General Tomás de Torquemada allegedly told Valmes that it was the will of God that such a solution be inaccessible to human understanding.[4] However Beckmann, who popularized this story of Depman in the West, said that it was unreliable and hinted that it may have been invented as Soviet antireligious propaganda.[5] Beckmann's version of this story has been widely copied in several books and internet sites, usually without his reservations and sometimes with fanciful embellishments. Several attempts to find corroborating evidence for this story, or even for the existence of Valmes, have failed.[6]

>> No.10599584

>>10599559
How the fuck would they even solve a quartic more than five hundred years ago?

>> No.10599587
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>>10599584
The solution involves reducing the quartic and then solving an intermediate cubic with Cardano’s formula

>> No.10599595

>>10599584
the formula for solving the cubic, quartic, and quadratic have been known since the 16th century

>> No.10599640

>>10599559
Define materialism

>> No.10599654
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>>10599559
At least choose pic
>incompleteness theorem proves that mathematics is strictly subjective
>seething materialists
mathToddlers BTFO

>> No.10599658

>>10599595
The quadratic was known by the Babylonians

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>>10599654
>mathematics is subjective

For you

>> No.10599697

>>10599654
based godel hated communist materialists though

>> No.10599701

>>10599697
>>10599559
>conflating materialism with marxism
thats exactly what marxists want you to do

>> No.10599721

>>10599701
no, materialists are marxists alot of the time, its a retarded philosphy regardless

>> No.10599724

Humans like to catalog everything into groups

>> No.10599732

>>10599721
define materialism

>> No.10599741

>>10599732
Materialists think anything that is true can be observed. It’s self refuting bull shit though

>> No.10599757

>>10599741
By your definition marxists cannot be materialists then, since they hold metaphysical axioms regarding the outcome of history. Feel free to show how materialism refutes itself, tho

>> No.10599781

>>10599654
oh no no no
dont do this here

>> No.10599788
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>>10599757
You just did it for me. Materialism says that all truths can be observed. That is a truth statement that cannot be confirmed through observation. I’m sorry you’re a brainlet.

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>>10599788
>Materialism says that all truths can be observed.

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>>10599792
>unironically quotes me and doesn’t refute me

>> No.10599926

>>10599701
Marx's result - materialistic history (as opposed to voluntarism) - is pretty big.

>> No.10599959

>>10599788
Not sure if it's materialism, but every observation confirms that truth.

>> No.10599968

>>10599959
How so?

>> No.10600004

>>10599968
Because the observation is in accordance with the claim.

>> No.10600012

>>10600004
What claim? The claim that all truths can be observed? The only way you could prove that to be true is if you knew all truths.

>> No.10600060 [DELETED] 

lotsa good stuff going on in here, but we need a schizo to talk about the CTMU

>> No.10600940

>>10600012
No, truths being observable doesn't provide instant omniscience out of nowhere.

>> No.10600946

>>10599662
kek

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>>10600940
What the fuck are you on about then? Who are you arguing with and about what?