Cigarettes vs. Cannabis

[Anonymous No.10599349]

Which is safer to smoke?
P.S: no stoner pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.10599351]

>Which is safer to smoke?
Why don't you try them and find out?

[Anonymous No.10599355]

>>10599349
Thanks for pointing that out OP, almost all medical science regarding marijuana is built to make it look safe to promote reefer madness in America's youth. There has never been one study that correlates cigarette smoking with cancer or heart disease.

[Anonymous No.10599366]

>>10599351
Triggered stoner.

[jepetto No.10599372]

On it's own cannabis is less bad for you; it makes your arteries sticky and clogs them temporarily, while smoking normally gradually clogs your arteries.

Cannabis is usually smoked with tobacco! A bad combo.

It truly depends on your genetics, do you have nice arteries, can you handle a smoke? I've smoked since 14 and I'm 27, I will probably hit 80, as a smoker. My arteries are good; however, I'm quitting.

Again, tobacco is worse because the "20 fags" effect of cannabis is temporary, and like a semi-perm pen can quickly be rubbed away. It can't be said for normal smoking which is tarry (espeically straights).

The heart is like a turbo injector, it sends theraputic, encirlcing waves around the body. As time goes by smoking, you restrict the waves your heart can send. The triple-jump of my left side is almost gone.

[Anonymous No.10599375]

>>10599349
OP read Hype by Shapiro

[Anonymous No.10599386]

>>10599349
Safer for your brain (and good too) : tobacco
Safer for your body (but fucks up your brain) : Cannabis

[Anonymous No.10599387]

>>10599372
>Cannabis is usually smoked with tobacco!

Maybe over in fucking Eurotrash land

>20 fags

We don't need to hear about your grindr meetup

The rest of your post is nonsense as well

[Anonymous No.10599389]

>>10599349
I never saw someone who had an accident with heavy machinery because they just finished a cigarette. Or who called in sick for work because they smoked three.

[jepetto No.10599402]

>>10599386
>>10599386
Cannabis doesn't fuck up your brain.

This is modern pseudoi-psychology; where'd you get this fact from, people saying "are you high" rotary? Fuck off you spastic.

Cannabis has an effect like a wound on the brain which by the next morning has healed.

Cannabis can make your paranoid for a month or two.

These effects are temporary. Fuck this 'schizoprhenic' diagnosis from a ametuer psychoanalyist that says, "It's due to cannabis". Yeah, in the short term maybe, it's never a perminent effect (there are special cases).

Now fuck off academy retard.

[jepetto No.10599408]

>>10599387
>a fat neckbeard calls you retarded.

Breathing does send encircling power around the body. Breathe in and out, and your heart pumps air AROUND the body. Simple logic, so, 'the rest of your post is nonsense doesn't stand'.

Who the fuck says 'nonsense' anyway? Apart from perverts who rotary educate into social systems their alibi for covert perverse insults.

Baffles me, I'd love to burn you you annoying cunt.

[Anonymous No.10599424]

>>10599402
Youd do better to explain why they are wrong. I have seen some awfully stupid shit with weed behind it and many of us know the quintessential stoner who is in a perpetual state of stupidity. I would be willing to see that this is a phenomenon or the culture and psychological effect of having to hide from the man as there are also pretty smart guys who like to smoke but maybe not so openly. Explain why we are idiots.

[Anonymous No.10599435]

>>10599402
A wound never fully heals. Long-term brain damage caused by cannabis use is undeniable. The correlation with schizophrenia is well-documented but it can also lead to personality changes and more.

Virtually all of my friends who have been smoking joints for a long time display psychomotor retardation to some degree.

[Anonymous No.10599441]

>>10599349
Almost everything here is pseudoscience. Even if you get an answer from an expert by chance, it's going to be indistinguishable from the other dozens of bullshit anecdotal answers.

[Anonymous No.10599448]

>>10599386
Tobacco is safer for the brain but good for what?

[Anonymous No.10599470]

>>10599448
Tobacco is not "safer" for the brain. It increases the risk of stroke significantly.

Still, there is some evidence that cigarette smokers have improvements in long-term cognition and short-term memory due to changes in glutamate transmission.

One thing to bear in mind is that anything that has any impact on the brain will have various long-term impacts, possibly positive but mostly negative. The most important factor to take into account with both cannabis and tobacco smoking is the amount smoked and the duration smoked for.

[jepetto No.10599486]

Well this post was bollocks.

This thread is bollocks.

You were asked what's worse for you, and it's clearly tobbaco, and people are saying about cannabis having a grand bad effect on the mind because they're all lovey dovey with the psychology movement.

I don't FUCKING care, if you got your info- from... a... psychologist. I don't care if you know 'a stoner' who is 'pretty dumb' (in your opinion). If I said I smoked cannabis, you'd categorize me with 'the rest of em'. You'd say, "no wonder why your post makes no sense' lazily, putting no mental effort in, whilst having a laugh with your friends.

You're obviously dim-witted if you think psychologists are talking sanely, their intelligence is debated. What gives you the right to diagnose someone's mind based on words of the event; you're not a mind reader, you're an action reader. "I shouted at my dad last night" - psychologist; he shouted as his dad and picked up a knife waving it about" THUS he hears voices, he's a schizophrenic and blah blah, I'm talking shit I'm an academic nonse BURN YOU ANNOYING CUNTS.

But back on topic; no, smoking cannabis is a temporary effect on the brain most of the time. How do I know it's temporary? Because I'm a avid dreamer and philosopher. If I smoke a joint, the dream is cancelled that night. Simple. However, if I don't smoke a joitnt the next day, a dream will come. Again, simple. I have also studied it's effect actively, when I smoke a joint, it's like all the good stuff is being used in a short burst, hence why the dream is cancelled. Constantly smoking weed is never going to degrade what provides the good stuff. It's a temporary effect with special cases which actually do damage what produces the good stuff. I could have made that scientific but it's obviously a thread where people are toddling around.

[Anonymous No.10599548]

>>10599349
This guy made videos on both regarding how much smoke goes through a glass dome:

https://www.youtube.com/user/chrisnotap/videos

[Anonymous No.10599564]

>>10599349
Both equally dangerous to smoke in excess. A stoner pseudoscientist would say that there is no such think as smoking an excess amount of cannabis, but in reality it produces just as much tar on chromogenic free radicals as tobacco smoke. Every time you burn shit and smoke it, it's bad for you.

[Anonymous No.10599566]

>>10599349 (OP)
Both equally dangerous to smoke in excess. A stoner pseudoscientist would say that there is no such think as smoking an excess amount of cannabis, but in reality it produces just as much tar on cacogenic free radicals as tobacco smoke. Every time you burn shit and smoke it, it's bad for you.

[Anonymous No.10599573]

>>10599564
>chromogenic
>>10599566
>cacogenic
Maybe on 3rd try???

[jepetto No.10599579]

>>10599566
agreed. You really held my fart in when you said "A stoner pseudopsychologist ' though. And it was gonna be a good fart too.

[Anonymous No.10599588]

>>10599573
Third time's the charm. here I go:

carcinogenic

[Anonymous No.10599600]

schizos go this way >>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10599615]

>>10599486
How is it clearly tobacco? This thread seems to disagree and im not seeing the lovey dovey.

[Anonymous No.10599631]

>>10599486
>But back on topic; no, smoking cannabis is a temporary effect on the brain most of the time. How do I know it's temporary? Because I'm a avid dreamer and philosopher. If I smoke a joint, the dream is cancelled that night. Simple. However, if I don't smoke a joitnt the next day, a dream will come. Again, simple. I have also studied it's effect actively, when I smoke a joint, it's like all the good stuff is being used in a short burst, hence why the dream is cancelled. Constantly smoking weed is never going to degrade what provides the good stuff. It's a temporary effect with special cases which actually do damage what produces the good stuff. I could have made that scientific but it's obviously a thread where people are toddling around.
Interesting you say this. I was reminiscing a few days ago about the first couple times I smoked weed, and how it felt like I was dreaming while awake. Obviously the physical world didn’t behave like a dream, but I could still feel the dream existence transplanted into the material world. After 10 years of on and off smoking I never regained that feeling, even after several years between sessions. I also a heavy dreamer, even on nights when I do smoke I have vivid dreams. But when I don’t smoke, or have recently quit smoking, the dreams are significantly more intense. Marijuana has a strange effect on the part of the brain responsible for dreaming. I wonder what the long term effect of that is? Is it releasing “dream” chemicals while awake, therefore depleting them at night?

[Anonymous No.10599653]

Smoking period....is bad for you.
The reason why people obviously say smoking tobacco is bad for you, and at the same time say that smoking canbibis is not as bad is because the politial debate of weather smoking tobacco is bad is well over 50 years old...and recently people are trying to get marijuana legalized so they're overlooking any evidence that tells them on the contrary its just as bad. Just wait another 30 years until the dust has settled, and see for yourself.

Or even better, do the experiment yourself. burn tobacco and see how much tar it produces, and burn cannabis and see how much tar it produces and compare the results.

[Anonymous No.10599670]

If we're all just going to toss bs around. The first time I smoked weed, it flipped a switch in my perspective that has never turned off. How is that temporary? Millions smoke shitloads of cigarettes every day. With weed becoming more acceptable, pretty sure we'll find out what somebody who smokes forty joints a day is going to end up like.

[Anonymous No.10599674]

>>10599402
>t. coping retarded stoner
I was like you and I feel that my IQ was at least 10 points lower during the period that i was smoking

[Anonymous No.10599678]

>>10599670
>it flipped a switch in my perspective that has never turned off
Explain

[Anonymous No.10599690]

>>10599389
How about people who take 5-10 breaks per day because they smoke cigarettes, or who get hospitalized because they have a COPD exacerbation and can barely breath without puffers and oxygen?

[Anonymous No.10599692]

>>10599670
>The first time I smoked weed, it flipped a switch in my perspective that has never turned off
Now try that with LSD or shrooms, weed is for babies.

[Anonymous No.10599708]

>>10599653
No the reason people say smoking tobacco is bad for you is because a majority of people who smoke cigarettes are chain smokers, smoking a pack/day for years. Whereas most ppl who smoke weed do it on occasion, and the effects are not as severe. It's also clearly not as addictive. If you smoke marijuana every day, then yes, it may be as bad as cigarettes

[Anonymous No.10599720]

In moderation, weed. Simply less toxic smoke, thc and cbd ratios very. Chain smoking, still marijuana. Chain-smoking is where cigarettes become horrendously bad for you, like a poison.

[Anonymous No.10599722]

>>10599349
>smoking the corporate jew leaf
I pick Dandelions from my front yard and smoke the greens from them, also dried banana peels.

[Anonymous No.10599771]

>>10599692
I have identified some likely shrooms. What are my chances of misidentification of a goldcap and eating something that kills my ass? Im 270 lbs how many? I'm not fond of weed but I eat a lot of poppies and smokeless tobacco.

[Anonymous No.10599821]

>>10599771
Dude just order some 1p-lsd on the clearweb it's legal and pretty much the same stuff as real lsd.

[Anonymous No.10599841]

>>10599355

[Anonymous No.10599862]

>>10599821
>it's legal
do you want me to turn off the light so we could spend a moment in the dark anon

[Anonymous No.10601875]

>>10599349
Weed makes you stupid. I would rather die of lung cancer 20 years early than become an idiot and do nothing with my life. And if you are really a man of /sci/ence you should agree.

[Anonymous No.10601992]

>>10599387
Why are you so angry?

>>10599402
Actually it can have negative permanent changes, but only if your brain is developing. There is no study that shows it's any dangerous to adults.
Also pretty much all stories about stoned zombies are from high school.

>>10599435
Post data and make sure it's not about teenagers.

>>10599692
Fun fact, psychodelics can permanently change your weed high making it way more trippy.
Also DMT > *

[Anonymous No.10602014]

>>10599349
Combustion happens in both and you get PAHs
But I would say Cannabis is way safer cause tobacco is addictive.
So quitting smoking cannabis is way more easy than quitting smoking cigarettes.

[Anonymous No.10602015]

>>10601875
PhD defense in 3 weeks.
Smoked every damn day
lel

[Anonymous No.10602016]

>>10599402
Dumb retard detected.

[Anonymous No.10602022]

I don't think there's tar in cannibis.

[Anonymous No.10602028]

>>10599349
It's safer to smoke my boiled vapor cum anon.

[Anonymous No.10602329]

>>10599349
>not just vaping weed
It's like you want people to think you're gay

[Anonymous No.10602346]

>>10599349
Cannabis, mostly owing to the fact that stoners partake far less frequently than chain-smokers. A normal cigarette addict may go through ten cigarettes a day, but I know plenty of stoners and none of them are lighting up 10 joints a day.

There are also probably differences in the composition of cannabis and cigarette smoke that make cannabis a bit safer, since it isn't a manufactured product with a bunch of added stuff in it. But I'd wager the sheer amount of smoking probably accounts for most of the difference in health effect.

[Anonymous No.10602351]

>>10599355
Cool - go ahead and start smoking and cash in on that completely-safe euphoria.

[Anonymous No.10602425]

>>10602014
Cannabis is also addictive in a psychological sense - I know tons of people that rely on it as a crutch for their mental illness and can't do anything fun like videogames or concerts without getting high.

It's not the same kind of physiological, withdrawal-inducing addiction that cigarettes cause, but it's absolutely an addiction.

[Anonymous No.10602457]

>>10599486
retard

[Anonymous No.10602565]

>>10599349
Smoking freebase LSD analogues from a crack pipe

[Anonymous No.10602654]

>>10599402
cannabis like any intoxicant affects your brain chemistry it's temporary however in those already vulnerable it can lead to mental health issues e.g those not able to moderate in moderation cannabis is relatively healthy bar one recent study that says it increases your chances of alzheimers the difference is tobbaco almost always leads to addiction as it is smoked far more frequently and there is no cool down (if you smoke cannabis you probably won't for the next couple hours cuz you're already high) and cannabis is generally used far less frequently. However if had in excess cannabis can also lead to certain complications e.g depression and it also leaves ones body more susceptible to infection as it causes fatigue in the body due to the body increasing metabolism when high

[Amalgacon, the True Intellectu(...) No.10602672]

Amalgacon hast smoked many blunts and thy mental state is as sharp as ever.

[Anonymous No.10602773]

>>10602425
>Cannabis is also addictive in a psychological sense

Hey man I used to smoke 3-4 joints a day and 30 cigarettes at the same time.
Now I'm smoking only cigarettes (and it's been 2 months since my last joint).
What you call "psychological addiction" it's way more weak than the chemical one I can assure you at 100%.

[Anonymous No.10602873]

>>10599355
Indeed.
>>10599372
>makes your arteries sticky and clogs them temporarily, while smoking normally gradually clogs your arteries.
The stupidity of some people here.

[Anonymous No.10602882]

>>10602773
How about if it were 30 joints and 3 or 4 cigarettes? Chemical addiction is still just psychological addiction. Some control themselves better than others.

[Anonymous No.10602890]

>>10602773
Basically anything pleasurable can be “psychologically addictive.”

[Anonymous No.10603639]

>>10599349
>Which is safer to smoke?
none. Both hurt your brain, your body, your lungs

[Anonymous No.10603748]

>>10602873
Can you elaborate on why that's stupid? Not saying you're wrong just curious.

[Anonymous No.10603762]

>>10603639
You gotta answer the question. You want ice cream or cake? You cant have both. WHICH is safER? One OR the other.

[Anonymous No.10603775]

>>10599349
As somebody who has done both, I can tell you that smoking pot regularly is tougher on the lungs than cigarettes (I would cough up way more mucus throughout the day when smoking pot).
It was not as bad on the cardiovascular system as nicotine, though.
If you stick to vaping, pot is safer for both respiratory and cardiovascular.

If you have anxiety problems, pot can make it better or worse.
After going through some stressful times in my life, pot went from being my favorite thing to being a guaranteed panic attack and I put it down for good.

[Anonymous No.10603826]

>>10603775
I know of a man who literally fucking died smoking weed and doing that shit, trying to hold it in. Starting coughing and kept coughing until he couldn't. Sad but funny. He didn't smoke cigarettes.

[Anonymous No.10603951]

Why are people who smoke weed so aggressive?

[Anonymous No.10603972]

>>10599722
>I pick Dandelions from my front yard and smoke the greens from them, also dried banana peels
Bait or nah? What the fuck either way

[Anonymous No.10603976]

>>10603972
Bananas don't work. Peanut skins bro.

[Anonymous No.10603980]

>>10602015
Nice one. PhD in what though?
I Occasionally smoke weed too. Sometimes more sometimes less. And I'm just baout to finish my masters in physics.

[Anonymous No.10604021]

>>10602882
>Chemical addiction is still just psychological addiction.
Wrong, it is physiological.

>>10603775
That is because cannabis acts as an expectorant when smoked and clears the air passages of mucus and phlegm while tobacco inhibits expectoration and causes the mucus to linger and build up in the bronchial tubes and lungs which is why tobacco users tend to get more infections and the release of phlegm occurs a couple of weeks after you stop smoking cigarettes instead of while you are smoking, like cannabis.

[Anonymous No.10604038]

>>10604021
>P.S: no stoner pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.10604046]

>>10604021
Thats not wrong dummy. Are you one of those robots who can't understand an implied point? The chemical addiction (even for opiates) is insignificant compared to the mental effort it takes to brake a habit. It is philosophically correct and wasn't meant to be technical.

[Anonymous No.10604069]

>>10604038
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516-44462006000200015&lng=en&nrm=iso&tlng=en
Its historical science that is still accurate today and applicable to the issue of phlegm production that was brought up.

Also the science has been pretty well settled that tobacco is much less safer for lung function than cannabis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5072387/

>>10604046
I still say you are wrong because uncontrollable sweating, blurred vision, vomiting, seizures, and death are pretty significant and major deterrents in breaking a habit that staves them off due to chemical dependency.

[Anonymous No.10604462]

>>10599402
It does fuck up your brain, but in certain circumstances.
Developing brains will have developmental abnormality if you ingest cannabis before the development is done, and judging by this, I presume that cannabis also has an effect, although probably just long-term temporary, on neuron adaptability.

[jepetto No.10604534]

>>10604462
In large amounts\ early, yeah. There are moderate long term effects

[jepetto No.10604544]

>>10604534
Not severe enough to call it stupid. There is so much evil in society it's effect is actually beneficent intellectual as with "E" which is also like a performance enhancing drug (even for mind). All have negative effects, but unless you are really bad at controlling your drug usage or unlucky/lowly, you're not stupid.

>Needs more severe damage.

[jepetto No.10604558]

>>10604544
Perhaps write a thesis on E but edit it the next morning; I'd write the better thesis. Both thesis and clouding the mind are evil; hence the good effect. We're here to write thesis and discover using the tool I guess, perhaps it's a major discovery operation; or a failed evolution turned into one, at least.

[Anonymous No.10604565]

>>10599486
based schizo poster

[Anonymous No.10604566]

>>10603980
biochem, but really i did cell biology for my thesis. Stoned imaging is fantastic.

[anonjepettoymous No.10604577]

>>10604565
you have aids

[Anonymous No.10604698]

>>10602015
Nice one! Hope you will succeed!

[Anonymous No.10604843]

Forget smoking pot or cigarettes. Use pot edibles instead for better and longer lasting highs and no tar in your lungs. Just don't take too much unless you want a trip of a lifetime that could turn unpleasant (but not dangerous). It takes about an hour to kick in so keep that in mind

[Anonymous No.10605188]

GAY

[Anonymous No.10605208]

>>10603951
Why are people who don't smoke weed such pussies?

[Anonymous No.10605306]

>>10599355
>t. niggerbrain

[Anonymous No.10605307]

>>10599402
My brother and I smoked a ton together in HS and eventually the chronic smoking caught up to us and as are grades were dropping and stress was piling we smoked more and more, but nothing more than the avg. HS stoner, anyways my brother went into psychosis soon after his junior year, and guess what, it was because of all the smoking. He never got out of that "state" only moved up-diagnosed with schizophrenia.
I take medication for BPD, mainly because the guilt I felt after all that happened with my brother. My natural ability to be good in math ultimately deteriorated and I ended up a humanities major.

Anyways just by looking at your post I can feel your infuriation and your slow mind, out of anger, typing out this reply and many others in rapid succession, I already know too that you're going to bumfully smoke another dubie after typing retarded replies here

[Anonymous No.10605393]

>>10599351
How would that give any indication of safety? What if he just suddenly has a problem with both now. GTFO bro

[Anonymous No.10605417]

>>10599615
His post was pretty indecipherable, but I think he means that a lot of psychology is bullshit, and has low reproducability. People are using studies based in psychology rather than arguments based on biology or chemistry. In the case of tobacco there is a wealth of info on its biological harms, whereas with cannabis all the negative info is from psychologists (who may or may not be full of shit)

[Anonymous No.10605423]

>>10599631
interesting thought. I have heard that intense dreams is a side effect of withdrawal from cannabis.

[Anonymous No.10605428]

>>10599670
It is partly psychedelic, that is why you had a shift in perspective. Those opened doors can not be shut.

[Anonymous No.10605437]

>>10599771
I wouldn't. But if you have too, their stems stain blue upon contact. You can grow them with a kit and all components are likely legal in your country as they contain no psilocybin.

[Anonymous No.10605451]

>>10602022
there is...

[Anonymous No.10605475]

>>10603951
I havent seen that in my experience. But it is a 'risk' taking behaviour, which is more likely to be attempted by aggressive people.

[Anonymous No.10605814]

Cannabis is safer but don't think for a second it's safe. It fucks your mental health. Like death, depression and anxiety can put intelligent men on their backs.

[Anonymous No.10605820]

>>10605814
Being stabbed in the arm is better than slitting your throat.

Being stabbed in the arm is still not good for you.

[Anonymous No.10605826]

I know this is probably childish of me, but I've been offered weed by friends many times, and it honestly makes me anxious as fuck since I'm pretty ignorant about weed in general.

Is there any real reason to be anxious of loved ones smoking weed? Furthermore, is it really all that bad to try?

[Anonymous No.10605856]

>>10599349
>2019
>smoking boomer flower
>not vaping high quality distillates

I guess if you live in some state with draconian marijuana laws.

[Anonymous No.10605969]

>>10605820
Thank you for proving my point?

[Anonymous No.10606183]

>>10599349
cigars, nigger. They unironically won't give you cancer, and won't turn you into a Rick and Morty fan, either.

>>10605826
Do you ever plan on getting drunk in your life? Aren't you curious what it feels like? Usually smart people are overwhelmingly curious. Don't be such a pussy, unless you're way young in which case I recommend you let your brain develop. Of course trying it only once, even something like middle-school young, likely won't produce any inherent longterm ramifications.
After you try psilocybin, you will realize weed and booze are boring shit for/with normies to dull their minds and waste their time, anyway. ``weed makes you more creative`` is a fucking joke, you just eat a bunch of food, watch cartoons, maybe have a wank and fall asleep. Peak nigger. Worth finding out for yourself, however.

[Anonymous No.10606235]

>>10606183
>cigars

Enjoy your throat cancer

[Anonymous No.10606261]

>>10606235
there won't be any smoke in my throat, clueless dickhead. Maybe do some research before spouting off about shit you know nothing about.

[Anonymous No.10606269]

>>10606261
heh yeah you showed him nigger

[Anonymous No.10606282]

>>10606261
one quick google surely couldn't prove you wrong

[Anonymous No.10606912]

Smoking anything is bad for you because of things like tar and formaldehyde. Neither nicotine or THC are particularly damaging to your body. Tobacco is far more addictive however.

[Anonymous No.10606944]

eh i just smoke weed, im doin pretty fine

[Anonymous No.10607043]

>>10605856
fucking this
plebs and degenerates are still using combustion to inhale burnt carcinogenic plant matter while destroying cannabis
When will they learn they can inhale sweet, pure thc and terpenes ?

[Anonymous No.10607050]

>>10606235
Tobacco does not cause cancer, period.

[Anonymous No.10607053]

>>10599435
>people thinking a correlation between drug use and schizophrenia implies causation

[Anonymous No.10607065]

Looks to be pot. Go figure.

>https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2012/01/98519/marijuana-shown-be-less-damaging-lungs-tobacco

>https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM198802113180603

>https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/1952-marijuana-smoke-not-as-damaging-to-lungs-as-cigarette-smoke

>https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/pot-smokers-can-maybe-breathe-a-little-easier

[Anonymous No.10607067]

>>10607053
>potfags going to endless lengths to justify their use
typical addictive behavior

[Anonymous No.10607080]

>>10604069
There is only one mention of "expectorant" in that paper and it is merely saying it was used in traditional Indian medicine for this purpose. This doesn't prove the validity at all you dumb stoner.
I don't care if tobacco is shit or not. But weed makes your mouth dry out. That's a fucking fact. And the idea that you can smoke and all the deposits will magically cough out because THC is just magic bro is as dumb as people saying cancer is impossible because THC can mildly shrink tumors.

[Anonymous No.10607229]

>>10599349
>2019
>smoking weed
Bitch get a vaporizer or learn to make edibles.

[Anonymous No.10607235]

>>10607050
Only indirectly as it can induce calorie and nutritional deficits thanks to its uncoupling effect.

[Anonymous No.10607239]

>>10607229
>current year
>not injecting the latest research chemicals to get high
What are you, retarded?

[Anonymous No.10607298]

>>10599349
>no stoner pseudoscience.
>cannot find science by himself.
smoke your cow-piss soaked paper, for there's no tobacco in your cigarettes nor do they get you higher

[Anonymous No.10607309]

>>10599349
based brainlet pseud reddit thread

[Anonymous No.10608055]

>>10602015
>biochem phd
That's easy. Of course you can succeed getting high and doing biochem. Try even undergrad math while high. Not so easy. I know this because I've tried. Been smoking since middle school but I quit because I found out nicotine makes you smart and weed makes you stupid and lazy.

[Anonymous No.10608089]

>>10608055
>nicotine makes you smart and weed makes you stupid and lazy
the opposite is actually true (though it strongly depends on the dosage)
weed makes you lazy, yes, but it definitely makes you smarter (smarter enough to understand how stupid you are, and much more, if you were initially smart enough)
nicotine just relaxes all that tension addiction to it creates.

[Anonymous No.10608144]

>>10608089
>smart enough to understand how stupid you are
I saw a few suicidal brainlet threads on /sci/ where the OPs were distraught over not being able to do middle school math. I'm pretty sure they didn't need weed to tell them how stupid they are. On the other hand, nicotine is a nootropic. But you are a biochem phd, so why don't you post some definitive proofs of your claims, instead of some dumb pic.

[Anonymous No.10608193]

>>10608144
>you are a biochem phd
I am not, but I think I can find a couple of articles supporting my point:
mice: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30521850
humans: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3283159/

> nicotine is a nootropic
I found articles claiming this, and it explains why every retard down here seems to smoke it. I also read it boosts your testosterone, this is probably true, but the nootropic part is nah, it's probably because they cannot think properly until they get the dose (and they have to take another dose more than once an hour, even heroin isn't so demanding on this account)

[Anonymous No.10608197]

>>10599349
Cock.

[Anonymous No.10608208]

>>10602873
Note that it often takes decades to develop lung cancer from cigarette smoking and the mean lifespan of a lab mouse is like 2-3 years.

Not to mention the fact that humans have orders of magnitude more lung tissue, which means greater opportunities for a cancer-causing mutation.

[Anonymous No.10608213]

>>10608055
I did undergrad math up to DE. Cannot do math while stoned though, have to do it sober, made too many stupid mistakes when doing it high. affects people in different ways anon. i could never be an alcohol, alcohol ruins my ability to do anything, but my roommate does all his work while heavily intoxicated, but he's an alcoholic lol

[Anonymous No.10608220]

>>10599670
> With weed becoming more acceptable, pretty sure we'll find out what somebody who smokes forty joints a day is going to end up like.
>Niggas don't know who Snoop Dog is
baka

[Anonymous No.10608226]

>>10608089
>that image
I don't know why I kek'd so much.

[Anonymous No.10608230]

>>10608226
it's remarkably accurate though. THC causes an increase in retrograde signaling, which endogenous cannabinoids (ones that are naturally occuring in the body) mimic. The nonsense about it "helping thinking" is unsubstantiated, but retrograde cannabinoid signaling is a thing, and generally causes an inhibition of the pre-synaptic signal.

[Anonymous No.10608234]

>>10608230
er, endocannabinoids cause retrograde signaling, which THC mimics, since it can bind to the same receptors (CB1). oops im ashamed

[Anonymous No.10608240]

>>10608230
Cool man. But who cares. I just find the image funny

[Anonymous No.10608241]

>>10608144
>nicotine is a nootropic
True, but all the other chemicals in tobacco, and the damage it does to your lungs pretty much washes out any benefit.
If you want to use nicotine for nootropic purposes you're better off just using a patch or gum.

[Anonymous No.10608243]

>finally give up weed
>take up nicotine in place of it
>every time I get in the car I have to have a smoke
How do I break this cycle

[Anonymous No.10608249]

>>10608240
I care because I study neurons on a cell level. Makes me happy the author has a very healthy understanding of a pretty obscure topic. but im not surprised, tons of stoners in this field, myself included.
>>10608243
sorry anon. you'll only stop it when you really want to. Gum replacement worked for me, but i was lucky in that it could completely replace it.
quitting weed is nothing compared to cigs unfortunately...

[Anonymous No.10608253]

>>10608249
Quitting weed was pretty easy tho, imo. Do I have an oral fixation? Why must I smoke?

[Anonymous No.10608278]

>>10608253
because nicotine actually causes a physical dependency. THC does not. Physical withdrawals happen due to nicotine withholding, which are what cause you to keep going back.
Also a vicious cycle of "the cigarette calms me down". But unfortunately once nicotine is habituated into your system, that anxiety is CAUSED by a lack of nicotine. Very hard cycle to beat without nicotine replacement.
Also the oral fixation part, yes. But i believe less in that then molecular mechanisms

[Anonymous No.10608297]

>>10608055
>be me
>get stoned
>do better in Complex Variables course
Depends on you desu

[Anonymous No.10608299]

>>10608253
try to smoke air (imitate smoking, put two fingers to your mouth as if you hold a cigarette to it) such an exercise relaxes (consider it a breathing exercise) and the urge goes away for a while. And the more you restrain, the less often it bothers you. It will return the next day, the next week, then next month, and then it will leave you alone. Until a year later all of the sudden it will demand you to hold on a little bit longer. And then it goes for good.
Though I never smoked socially, that is quite another story. But I hope my method helps someone.
Also I heard of people who got rid of this habit because a friend of theirs told them that some (((sneaky faggots))) made him pay them money for poison which only makes him cough.
And another method: you choose a date (not less than a month away, but not more than 45 days) and you write on your pack of cigarettes "(day) (month) I quit smoking" and you write it everywhere you can see, so for the next month your subconsciousness is bombarded by this information. And when the date comes you just crush the pack of cigarettes and throw it away. And usually subconsciousness starts to convince you to go back to that habit, but you tricked it to shut the fuck up. even the deepest cells of your brain have caught up to that holy date.

[Anonymous No.10608334]

What about smoking Salvia Officinalis ?
Apparently in Middle Age they smoked it for treating asthma…

[Anonymous No.10608357]

>>10608297
>complex variables
That's problem solving techniques for engineers, not hard math
>>10608193
>those studies
mostly just BS. Everything tested for was way below the level of hard math, and can't predict success in actual hard math
>>10608213
>undergrad DE
also problem solving techniques for engineers. Focusing and thinking hard without making mistakes is incredibly important for hard math.
>>10608241
exactly. So there's no reason to smoke anything, and every reason to use nicotine patch.

[Anonymous No.10608372]

>>10608144
I'd be suicidal too if I was legitimately too stupid to understand fucking elementary algebra.

[Anonymous No.10608403]

>>10608357
>mostly just BS. Everything tested for was way below the level of hard math, and can't predict success in actual hard math
I don't do hard math, not my speciality. But when I do science in my field, I can only do it after a couple of tokes.

[Anonymous No.10608409]

>>10607080
so what your mouth is dry? just drink some fucking water bro, jesus.

fucking baby

[Anonymous No.10608416]

>>10608357
>every reason to use nicotine patch.
Wear one to bed for some extra fun. Very very vivid and semi-lucid dreams are a side effect listed on the box... which I never paid any attention to until I fell asleep with one on a couple of times.
Really fucky dreams, with false awakenings on false awakenings like the most cliched horror movie.
10/10 experience, would highly recommend everyone try it at least once. I remember one time I had murdered some mob guy and so I had the mob and the cops chasing me through a city while i was on a motorcycle doing some straight up matrix bullshit, like the controlled wipe-out to get under a passing semi truck. I realized I was dreaming when I wasn't dead or wrecked beyond belief, and the dream went from this sweat drenched anxious nightmare to "Fuck you, I'm Neo!" in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous No.10608426]

>>10608409
>so what your mouth is dry?
It's not super awesome for your oral health.
Take it from an old head, chew gum to cure cotton mouth. It also curbs the munchies.
Pic related is the patrician's choice of chewing gum.

[Anonymous No.10609400]

>>10608357
>try even undergrad math while high
Oh like Complex Variables, except it's actually listed as a Graduate mathematics course at my uni
>n-no it has applications so it's not true, hard math!
Whatever, boomer. I'll continue to smoke my weed and get my A and be on my way.

[Anonymous No.10609442]

If you want to be a high IQ, high T Chad adventurer and live to be older than 100, I recommend cigarettes.

[Anonymous No.10609444]

>>10608299
>taking a whole month to finish a pack

[Anonymous No.10609547]

>>10599674
>during the period that i was smoking
So it is temporary then

[Anonymous No.10609599]

>>10599349
still ain't dead and still token.

[Anonymous No.10610019]

>>10599386
Thats bullshit
Cannabis is worse in both cases. The tar produces by burning cannabis is normally even higher than tobacco, but on the other hand tobacco nowadays has so many additives that are worse than cannabis. Never the less: dont smoke at all

[Anonymous No.10610815]

>>10608055
>Try even undergrad math while high. Not so easy.

[Anonymous No.10611007]

Wow, if there was ever a thread to showcase the overtaking of sci by psuedointellectual normies this one is it. Rip math, rip sci. This /buzzfeed/ now.

[Anonymous No.10611121]

>>10611007
4chan died once hiroshimoot took over.

[Anonymous No.10612700]

>>10608426
>dry mouth
>instead of drinking normal water chew gum
>being an absolute idiot

[Anonymous No.10612999]

>>10608055
>learn about IEEE 754 in first year of CS
>can calculate it and all but it just seems weird
>get high, think about it
>everything suddenly makes sense and seems intuitive
It makes you lazy and maybe harder to think on it, but if everything is easy for you to begin with and you do your shit regardless, you can treat it like an extra challenge.

[Anonymous No.10613043]

>>10612999
I use it as a tool to make me write easier to understand code.

[Anonymous No.10613045]

>>10610019
vape naysh ya'll

[Anonymous No.10613058]

>>10613043
I find it really relaxing and satisfying to write CSS while high.
Other than that I prefer to write code sober or on LSD microdose.

[Anonymous No.10614055]

>>10613058
css high is fun as fuck.