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10598437 No.10598437 [Reply] [Original]

Tell me, /sci/ how is it possible after several decades of advancements in psychology, we are still incapable of understanding the subconscious?

>> No.10598439

>>10598437
Because we abandon Freud's teachings. He did more to advance psychology than any person before him or after him.

>> No.10598452

>>10598439
Freud was a fraud
>>10598437
Subconscious understanding is the occult

>> No.10598458

>>10598437
Your brain does what it does to reproduce and survive and that’s pretty much it. Not that hard or mysterious.

>> No.10598494

>>10598458
That doesn't make any sense.

>> No.10598498

k

>> No.10598501

>>10598494
If you were capable of writing a complex program with its function being to reproduce and survive you could get the human brain and all of its processes including subconsciousness.

>> No.10598506

We do understand it.

I understand it when I'm talking to someone, I understand what they're thinking subconsiously or projecting subliminally.

It's hard to describe using words in a scientific format, so much data, at such speeds.

What does this statement maek you think subconsiously?

>You probably erazed it with "I don't know" immedaitely after you read it.

When we use the mind we use it consciously, the subconscious is, inter alia, the aspects of thought which we don't use directly, but rather indirectly.

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>>10598437
With advances in Computational Neuroscience
by modelling the brain with Connectomes
we are closer to understand how the
Brain works in a deeper level,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwIn-ukBLp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud8gOmkxI7E

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>>10598437
Psychological Warfare Mid Control Techniques is already used by Secret Agencies, Mass Media, Hollywood, Music Industry & Educational System.

>> No.10598873

>>10598437
Prove a subconscious even exists.

>> No.10598879
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>>10598437
Psychological Warfare Mid Control Techniques are already used by Secret Agencies, Mass Media, Hollywood, Music Industry & Educational System.

>> No.10598883
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>>10598437
You can manipulate people's subconscious by Subliminal Messages on Carefully crafted propaganda (disguised as Memes)

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>>10598437
Modern Computational Neuroscience & Artificial Intelligence Research also overlap & are intertwined

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>>10598437
Also Koishi is the best Touhoou anime Waifu
And 3D Virtual Reality + Artificial Intellligence
will make Animes real..

>> No.10598911

>>10598437

There is no such thing as subconsciousness.
You never had control over your consciousness to begin with, it's just something that happens to you as a byproduct of simple arithmetic operations of your neurons.
You have about as much control of your thoughts as you do of your heart rate. Meditation and shit like that are just attempts to influence other processes in the body to then influence those things, but still a very indirect "control", if you'd want to call it that.

Also the entire notion of subconscious relies heavily on results from psychology that can't be replicated (psi is the worst offending area of the replication crisis), and the supposed "validation" that comes from fmri has been debunked a few years ago when the statistical methods used for those studies was harshly cricitized.
We have no way of knowing if any of those advancements you mention hold at all.
It's possible within the next 100 to 200 years we'll see the entirety of psychology and fmri based neuroscience scrapped and redone from the start.

>> No.10598919

>>10598501

The near entirety of the animal kingdom disagrees with you.

>> No.10598921
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>>10598437
More research is needed

>>>/jp/21238901

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjJMWj6BYhY

>> No.10598967
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>>10598437
>You can manipulate people's subconscious by Subliminal Messages on Carefully crafted propaganda (disguised as Memes)

And remember lads:
Subscribe to PewDiePie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah5MYGQBYRo

https://pastebin.com/VXXFQMTW

>> No.10598995

>>10598911
This reads like an incrediblu oversimplified view of psychology by someone who gets all their info from popsci headlines

>> No.10599007
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>>10598995
Psychology is a meme.
But Memetics is a legit brain of /sci/ence.

Researched by DARPA / US military:

https://robotictechnologyinc.com/images/upload/file/Presentation%20Military%20Memetics%20Tutorial%2013%20Dec%2011.pdf

WW3 will be fought with meme magic.

>> No.10599128

Most older narratives of the unconscious are from schizos like Jung who were projecting their fantasies onto others.

>> No.10599487

>>10598501
>writing a complex program
Totally sounds like evolution.

>> No.10599511

>>10598879
>>10598883
based schizo posters - tell me more!

>> No.10599547

>>10598911
>There is no such thing as subconsciousness. You never had control over your consciousness to begin with, it's just something that happens to you as a byproduct of simple arithmetic operations of your neurons.
I do not think many people think that what you call "control" is cental to the distinction between the subconscious and the conscious parts of the brain. Maybe religious people do.

> arithmetic operations
Kek

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>>10599128
And what about Freud? He did more to advance psychology than any person before him or after him.

>> No.10600478

>>10598437
What benefits do we get from understanding the subconscious?

>> No.10600504
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>>10598437 >>10600478 >>10599511
Did you even heard of CIA mind control experiments called: MK Ultra?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9GlB0TPDp4

>>10599007
The most dangerous weapon is Information

MK Ultra (also called project Monarch)

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>>10598437 >>10600478 >>10599511
MK Ultra also called the CIA mind control program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie4MT4aay7U

USA after WW2 took Nazi scientists to work in Unethical Psychiatry experiments

Using Hypnosis & Developing the LSD drug,

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>>10598437 >>10600478 >>10599511

Psy-OP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_operations_(United_States)

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_in_Guerrilla_Warfare

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>>10598437 >>10600478 >>10599511
Persuade Change Influence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare

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>>10600508
>USA after WW2 took Nazi scientists to work in Unethical Psychiatry experiments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich_Ministry_of_Public_Enlightenment_and_Propaganda

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>>10600478
>What benefits do we get from understanding the subconscious?

"Chaos is a Ladder"
- Littlefinger to Varys
(Game of Thrones)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxlIraEV8n4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddGed5e9OV4

>>10598437 >>10598439 >>10599969

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>>10599511 >>10600478 >>10600547
>"Chaos is a Ladder"

ORDO AB CHAO
Order out of Chaos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(O)#ordo_ab_chao

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>>10599511 >>10600478 >>10600547

It's the Butterfly effect from the Chaos Theory

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
tiny subtle changes can produce big results


Chaos theory is a branch of mathematics focusing on the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_system
>The Lorenz system is a system of ordinary differential equations first studied by Edward Lorenz.
>It is notable for having chaotic solutions for certain parameter values and initial conditions.
>In particular, the Lorenz attractor is a set of chaotic solutions of the Lorenz system which, when plotted, resemble a butterfly or figure eight.

>> No.10600576
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Chaos Theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

Chaos Magick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic

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>>10598437 >>10598879 >>10598892 >>10598898 >>10598921

The Pineal gland
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

The Eye of Providence, The All-seeing Eye
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence

The 3rd Eye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_eye

>> No.10600595
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>>10598437 >>10598879 >>10598898 >>10598921 >>10599969

Koishi's 3rd Eye
https://dic.pixiv.net/a/サードアイ

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_eye
https://dic.pixiv.net/a/サードアイ

>> No.10600611
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The Pineal gland
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

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>>10598437
But can the Psychology field explain why I want to stick my big pp inside the koish???

>> No.10600644
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>>10600616
In evolutionary biology it's called "Neoteny" or "juvenilization".

People instinctively want to protect cute things.
It's an evolutionary mechanism deeply programmed in Mammals' brain.
Mammals instinctively feel the urge to protect their cute female mates & cute offspring.


It's the principle behind
"Moe Anthropomorphism" meme
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gijinka-moe-anthropomorphism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_anthropomorphism

It' employed in Japanese Moe anime
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)

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>>10600616
"Moe" is related to Japanese Aesthetics concept of "Kawaii"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii

"Kawaii" (可愛い) means "lovable", "cute", or "adorable" in Japanese

"Moe" (萌) means "little bud", "little sprout".
An euphemism for "cute little girl"

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>>10600616
Personally, I love Koishi among all Touhou waifus.

Because she is Autistic & a bit Schizophrenic.
And I have a crush for sweet but a bit crazy girls.


She officially has Autism Spectrum /Aspergers in Touhou's game canon.


She might not be the strongest (strong as Yukari, Reimu, or Remilia)

But I don't like Tsunderes (as Reimu)
I prefer kind autistic girls instead.

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>>10600616
Koishi is like Rei from Evangelion

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReiAyanamiExpy

Reimu is like Asuka

>> No.10600704

the subconscious maybe doesnt really exist as most people think.

>> No.10600709

oh well i didnt notice it became a weeb thread

>> No.10600716
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>>10600616
Reimu is too Tsundere (cute but angry)

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TsunDere

Koishi has Autism but she is kinder.
Kindness is what matters

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>>10600701
>Evangelion

>> No.10600828

>>10598437
>understanding the subconscious
you might want to define it first

>> No.10600833

>>10600701
Why do they let teenagers dress like that?

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>>10600833
>Why do they let teenagers dress like that?
well...

>> No.10600873

>>10599007
Implying it isn't yet.

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>>10600873
>Implying it isn't yet.
Yeah. It's happening

>> No.10600953

>>10598437
good thread pls continue to post koishi

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>>10600616
>>10600644
>>10600663
>>10600696
>>10600701
>>10600716
Thanks you for the reply!!
>>10600953

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>>10601009
You are welcome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT878yr74t8

>> No.10601537

>>10600828
The subconscious is already defined, its just not understood.

>> No.10601560

Is there any reason psychology 'should' be capable of understanding the subconscious in a span of several decades?

>> No.10601570

>>10598437
The subconscious is understood, but the knowledge is classified for obvious reasons

>> No.10602707

>>10600704
It's been proven to exist.

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>>10600616 >>10600644 >>10600663

>> No.10603044
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>>10602921
Impressive!

>> No.10603063

>>10598501
Why? Surviving and reproducing does not need to be as complex as it is.

>> No.10603528

>>10602921
This is a brainlet take by someone who looked up a term and can't even fucking understand a basic definition let alone a scientific study.

>> No.10603706

>>10600704
It does exist, but its full extent is not known. The CIA has developed classified procedures to manipulate the subconscious in all living beings, no matter the species. Most people believe that they've searched only to manipulate humans... But that's not creative enough. All ways of arriving to a solution must be found, which is why they've managed to extend sub-mind control programs to every species on planet earth. When you hear of someone important being killed by an animal, it was in reality an assassination. They can control all the instincts of animals, and with it goes propaganda and control methods to confuse the population as to its real causing factor.
One thing is that, over time, the usage of this technology leads to damage to the nervious system. This is why "Mad Cow disease", "Alzheimer" and so on exist. Even just a few seconds exposure will set you on the path of developing these sicknesses.

>> No.10603969

>>10601570
No ita not. Stop with the conspiracy theories.

>> No.10603978

>>10603063
Because of competition for resources. Only the strongest can survive with limited resources for survival and this creates evolution. Living organisms always need to be getting better to compete. For some more concrete examples think of businesses and how they are always trying to be better so they can beat their competition. Another good one is despite the fact that humans are the most superior animal on Earth there are still people who die broke virgins and their bloodline ends. There will always be competition so organisms will always need to become better to win and complexity is usually a side effect of this.

Our brains are definitely extremely complex and hard to understand yet you can trace its development from single-celled bacteria to present day humans. There is no underlying secrets or magic that slipped in along the way.

>> No.10604008

>>10603528
It's just a meme saved in my computer.
That used to be posted often there.

>> No.10604011

>>10604008
>It's just a meme saved in my computer.
>That used to be posted often there.
A meme that used to be posted often *here on 4chan

>> No.10604027

Trogging too hard to read this shit now but just seeing it kinda blows my mind. Easy to argue that consciousness doesn't exist but hard to refute the existence of the subconscious. We know that we know shit that we don't know and don't know what the thinking part that isn't thinking isn't thinking of. Does this enforce the idea of a consciousness?

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>>10601537
The Subconscious is understood. it's influence outside of conscious effort, its like if a child puts their hand absentmindedly on a stove and immediately take it off as a response because it is hot. That's subconscious.

>> No.10604457

>>10604027
What stupid shit are you reading.

>> No.10604467

>>10598883
Subliminal messaging was found to be a bullshit meme (thank god)

>> No.10604521

>>10604457
>What stupid shit are you reading.
An exercise in recurrence. The stupid shit I am reading is in green above. You're practically asking for it.

>> No.10604661

>>10598437
>Dynamic versus Cognitive Unconscious
https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jfkihlstrom/PDFs/2010s/2014/DynCogUncs_ECP_2015.pdf

This is a good read about it.

Abstract:
>The psychodynamic concept of the unconscious is contrasted with the view of unconscious mental life taken by modern cognitive and social psychology. For Sigmund Freud (1856–1939), the dynamic unconscious contained thoughts, feelings, and desires that were denied to conscious awareness because of a psychological force, i.e., repression, arrayed against them. It was part of a larger unconscious structure whose contents were descriptively unconscious, simply because they were not in awareness at any particular time. Evidence for the cognitive unconscious, in the form of automatic processes, implicit memory, subliminal perception, and the like, does not warrant acceptance of the dynamic unconscious of psychoanalytic theory. The entry briefly describes three examples of research programs that have attempted to document the dynamic unconscious.

And if you're too lazy to read the whole thing, the summary-
>As cognitive psychology revived its interest in consciousness, and then took an interest in the psychological unconscious, it was perhaps inevitable that Freud’s view of unconscious mental life would experience a resurgence of interest as well. But the carefully controlled experiments that have provided evidence for the cognitive unconscious—automatic processes, implicit memories, subliminal perception, and the like—have not yielded much evidence favoring the view of the dynamic unconscious as conceived in psychoanalytic theory, with its unconscious conflicts over primitive sexual and aggressive motives. The Freudian dynamic unconscious may well exist, in parallel with the ordinary unconscious of modern cognitive psychology, but that remains to be seen.

>> No.10604664

>>10604661
Basically there is very little evidence of the kind of dynamic unconscious proposed by Freud, populated by Jung, etc... However there is ample evidence of the cognitive unconscious, meaning implicit memory, background brain processing etc..

But the two are completely different in nature. Neuroscience has revealed Freud's theories to be a load of bull, especially psychoanalysis, unfortunately his influence still looms large in the popular conception and culture, spreading outdated misinformation to this day, even in schools where you'd think they would be on top of things.

>> No.10604689

>>10604661
>>10604664
Also replace unconscious with subconscious if you need to but just note "subconscious" has negative wacko connotations in academic psychology and neuroscience so they use unconscious instead in those fields and literature, or sometimes just use implicit (unconscious processes) vs. explicit (conscious processes).

>> No.10604808

>>10598911
Such unwarranted confidence.
Could you light yourself on fire and not move a muscle like those monks in Vietnam, then?

>> No.10604836

>>10604664
There is little in the way of evidence for these theories, but regarding therapy nothing comes close to the success rate of the psychoanalytic approach, especially in situations where more basic treatment like diet and exercise and CBT fail. There's no scientific way to understand Jung, in the same way there's no scientific way to understand a thought of a color or any other kind of qualia. In such a field there'll be many grifters, loonies, and charlatans as a result. But to deny the intuition behind these ideas is myopic and suggests a staggeringly sparse degree of self-reflection and self-awareness, and I find is often the position of the kind of STEM students, often Chinese and Middle Eastern, who never bother to read anything other than their textbooks.

>> No.10604878

>>10604836
Are you seriously trying to argue psychoanalysis has any remaining credibility in this age?

>> No.10604921

>>10598437
It's really quite simple. The cerebral cortex is the computer, what you probably call "your brain". The cerebellum is the programmer, the "you" you. Your conscious is the cerebellum+the parts of the cerebral cortex under its direct control. Your subconscious is the rest of the cerebral cortex that is not well controlled by the cerebellum (that is, not under your direct control). The conscious is like the cultivated land in the cerebral cortex and the cerebellum as the city fed by that land. The subconsicous is like the jungle, something may run out of it from time to time, but it's a hit or miss if it will feed you or torture you.

>> No.10605222

>>10604878
I dont need to argue anything, chang, the results speak for themselves.

>> No.10605248

>>10598437
>decades of advancements in psychology

>> No.10605409

>>10605248
Is he wrong?

>> No.10605434

>>10598501
Sounds bullshit, because the program all too often fails. Take me for example, I’ve never had sex, in fact I’ve hardly even tried.

>> No.10605705

>>10604878
psychoanalysis is a meme

>> No.10605723

>>10605705
Freudian holdovers who refuse to get with the times, and with modern academic psychology are the worst

>> No.10605739

>>10605434
GIGO

>> No.10605747

>>10598437
>psychology

>> No.10605753

>>10598873
We know it exists, subconsciously.

>> No.10605755

>>10605753
Prove it

>> No.10605956

>>10604921
Sorry, I thought the cerebellum was mostly for balance and fine movements but I'm just a med fag...

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>>10604093
bump

>> No.10606341

>>10605956
You thought wrong. You are by far not the only one though:

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/wnjzd9/human-cerebellums-rapid-growth-helped-make-technology-possible

https://www.livescience.com/48122-cerebellum-makes-humans-special.html

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304394018304671

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>>10598437
>Tell me, /sci/ how is it possible after several decades of advancements in psychology, we are still incapable of understanding the subconscious?
Because there's too many normalfag retards majoring in this who have no passion for the subject whatsoever and just want to "jelb peepuul in ned xDD" who should be majoring in Social Work instead or want to unironically become a con-man who's going to trick you on doing bad things for their own benefit (・`ω´・).

Since this question reminded me of that one Psych professor who was rigorous as fuck but wanted to teach everyone how's the University of California system nearby (UCSD) and how this subject is being teached there, yet he got pretty much raided by normalfags at RMP with those 1/5 reviews and ended up almost being fired because of brainlets not understanding shit.

I'm really sure it will take at least two decades for the Psychology field to get back on track in research and have new discoveries of the human mind.

>> No.10606759

>>10606341
Christ almighty.

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>>10603063

>> No.10606922

>>10606871
What am I looking at?

>> No.10606929

>>10606922
follow the black line. shit bricks

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>>10598437
>after several decades of advancements in psychology

there, I quoted the false assumption

>> No.10607166

>>10606930
Doesn't answer the question.

>> No.10607219

>>10598437
Who the fuck is this chick and why is everyone posting her?

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>>10598437
If people looked within themselves, the unconscious would become conscious. Only because it's subtle and they're so concerned with the gross reality they don't notice it.

>> No.10608149

>>10607219
It does.

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>>10607219
Komeiji Koishi

A Character from the legendary Japanese game, anime & music franchise called:

Touhou Project

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZVEKXNHi_U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjJMWj6BYhY

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>>10607219
Komeiji Koishi chan
is a master of Subconscious manipulation.

here one of her karaoke songs on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZVEKXNHi_U

>Subconsciously I can feel love awaken In control with my closed eye, with you Shake up tonight

>Loving and being loved, we hold hands My distance to you is becoming shorter In order to find things yet undiscovered I laugh and revel in paranoia

>Loving and being loved, we hold hands My distance to you is becoming shorter In order to find things yet undiscovered I laugh and revel in paranoia

here the rest of lyrics for of this song
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Lyrics:_Paranoia

>> No.10608320

>>10598437
Because the unconscious can't be understood while you're being conscious.

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>>10608320
bingo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4EpRrH7Jj4

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>>10608320
The 3rd eye

that controls
Consciousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2LHlC7TkJs

>> No.10608635

>>10598437
Subconscious operations are easier to understand than conscious operations.

>> No.10608659

>>10598437
Because psychology is not based on ontological mathematics
/thread

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>>10608635
Yeah, but 99% of people falls to Psychological manipulation ''Traps''.

See how much people are so easily deceived & manipulated by Mass Media &/or Fake News.

Even manipulated by freaking Memes.
Like the Subscribe to Pewdiepie Meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah5MYGQBYRo

Example of Psy-OP:
global warming (hoax)
false flag attacks
Syrian refugee crysis
Yellow Jackets in France
mass shootings
Jihad (muslim holy wars)
False alarms

>> No.10609454

>>10608659
Wow, what a fag.

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>>10608311
>Komeiji Koishi chan
>is a master of Subconscious manipulation
How does Subconscious Manipulation even work?

>> No.10610267

What if there is another consciousness inside my head except it's divorced from any output stream but in the future 6g antennas can interface with it and it can finally get its revenge on me

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>>10609935
Imagine la web of lines that is a sensory attack upon you. It can project, screech, and touch you. It also a current. So, first imagine a web of lines, and then imagine how that is also a current.

Coming up for us is an impulse in our heads, as we recongize what others are saying/thinking. The impulse is from the web and it's encircling and deep currents.

Subconsiously what are you thinking now is an web-current path or line, which is coming up in a position in your mind. Subconsious is manipulated when people use their harsher nature to commuicate to common thinking and gain. Causing encircling power in the web to force a certain current to be anticipated.

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>>10608140
>If people looked within themselves, the unconscious would become conscious
That doesn't make sense, whatsoever. Explain why you believe this.

>> No.10610392

>>10608659
based

>> No.10610490

>>10598458
>>10598501
Wow, look at this fucking hylic.

>> No.10610625

>>10598501
This is what materialists believe

>> No.10610676

>>10598439
I agree with Freud. I am most definitely thinking of deep throating my father's cock whenever I eat a hot dog.

>> No.10611477

>>10610625
Nothing wrong with materialism.

>> No.10611939

>>10598437
First, we have to define what is the subconscious, which we have yet to do.

>> No.10611946

>>10610625
Materialism is fact, get over it.

>> No.10612557

>>10608311
Sounds deep

>> No.10612689

>>10598873
truly an alpha male, you must perform all of your bodily functions manually

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>>10598437
>we are still incapable of understanding the subconscious?
The human brain and mind is a complex thing, anon.

Also is there any reason why the subconscious is portrait as a body of water.

>> No.10613718

>>10598860
This is useless if we dont understand how the neuron itself works at its physiological.and biochemical levels.

>>10611939
Easy: Thoughts and behaviours executed without conscious deliberation.

>> No.10614316

>>10613718
>Thoughts and behaviours executed without conscious deliberation
Seems rather broad and vague.

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>>10598437
There is nothing to gain from understanding the Subconscious. It's that reason alone.

>> No.10615536

>>10615437
We gain a shit ton, the fuck you talking about.

>> No.10616472

>>10600547
Imagine quoting fotm television to sound smart.

>> No.10616474

>>10613718
So digestion is subconscious

>> No.10617338

>>10616474
Yes.

>> No.10617709

>>10613077
>Also is there any reason why the subconscious is portrait as a body of water.
It's symbolic.

>> No.10618194

>>10617709
But when and why was the subconscious portrait as a body of water? Wouldn't it be better if it were a void or darkness?

>> No.10618770

>>10615536
What do we gain?

>> No.10619556

>>10606428
Source on this?

>> No.10619778

>>10598437
>Tell me, /sci/ how is it possible after several decades of advancements in psychology, we are still incapable of understanding the subconscious?

occult knowledge isn't taught to the masses.

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tell me, /sci/, will anime girls ever be real?

>> No.10620261

>>10620088
>will anime girls ever be real?

Well, anime technically refers to a drawing...

So, they are real right now, by definition.

>> No.10620670

>>10608311
Is it par for the course to feel extremely gay while listening to this?

>> No.10620673

>>10620088
Yes, they're called women.

>> No.10620718

>>10620673
3d pigs.

>> No.10620724

>>10598873
prove you exist

>> No.10620727

>>10598452
>Subconscious understanding is the occult
this is the best post on the thread

>> No.10621682

>>10598452
Please leave /x/.

>> No.10621694

>>10598437
Tell me, anon how after several decades of life, you still haven't been able to get a girlfriend?

>> No.10622827

bump

>> No.10622837

>>10621694
Waste of time.

>> No.10622842

>>10614316
When I sharply tap your leg just above the knee, do you consciously jerk your leg up, or did it happen without you thinking about it?