/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10590989]

This pic sums up the situation for women in STEM perfectly. It's exactly why they're getting hired preferentially so that companies and universities can virtue signal and avoid irking the SJWs and growing entitlement of female scientists who expect preferential consideration for hiring because they're wamen. Look guys she's a WOMAN! Who can do SCIENCE! Despite the OPPRESSION! Give her the jerb!!!! No more hetero white males in sciance!!!

[Anonymous No.10591018]

Dude women can be smart too.

[Anonymous No.10591021]

>>10590989
okay

[Anonymous No.10591023]

>>10590989
looks like it’s a bit easier for dudes, anon. you know what escalators do right?

anyhow whatever; for sure affirmative action is annoying, i for one probably didn’t get two job offers i wanted because of it (white straight “cis” male) and there is a trend in STEM to buy into social scientists’ idea that the “pipeline problem” is because of systemic bias. the social scientists fail to see how maybe, just maybe, guys like science and math more but women like fashion and cooking more, thanks to our hunter-gatherer ancestry going back ~200,000 years. fine, i don’t care, diversity is nice (i’d be happy to see more women in my field), and i got a job doing what i love anyway, thanks to my own undeniable abilities. meritocracy still makes room for us even though there are dads that cause a bias against us in the current world. and maybe it’s justifiable in the grand scheme because there was real bias against women in the past. however, i’m not to blame for injustices that happened before i was born

[Anonymous No.10591030]

>>10591023
**even though there are fads (not dads)

[Anonymous No.10591117]

Does the advertisement suggest that women are too stupid to take the escalator?

Or maybe that men need to stand still to beat off to dat passing ass?

[Anonymous No.10591125]

>>10591117
maybe the escalator is going down? the dude just turned around and the qt totally beasted him to reach the bottom but she was like “wtf i need to wait for my male companion before going into the dangerous subway station”?

[Anonymous No.10591168]

>>10590989
I'm a woman in STEM and have never felt opressed. SJWs are mostly either exaggerating tiny problems or butthurt about most women not making as much money as men when most choose to be teachers and social workers.

[Anonymous No.10591175]

>>10591168
good post
>inb4 vegana or gtfo

[Anonymous No.10591176]

>>10590989
If men require escalators, wouldn't it cost more to cater to them?

[Anonymous No.10591205]

>>10591117
>Does the advertisement suggest that women are too stupid to take the escalator?
STEMlords are so fucking dense holy shit.

[Anonymous No.10591207]

>>10591168
which field?

[Anonymous No.10591229]

>>10591205
Humanityfags are so sensitive holy shit. It’s your clitoris level sensitivity that got you in such a shitty discipline anyway.

[Anonymous No.10591234]

>>10591023
>>10591018
This whole thing has already turned into a pointless war of arguments which deliberately fails to adress the actual problems women face today. Feminists originally were against the sexual objectification of women by men. Completely oblivious to the fact that this "sexual objectification" is often wanted and even artificially induced by women.

[Anonymous No.10591238]

>>10591234
>fails to adress the actual problems women face today
Which are literal nothing. The world bends over backwards.

[Anonymous No.10591241]

>>10591229
At least I can communicate with people unlike your autistic ass :))).

[Anonymous No.10591243]

Just step on the fucking escalator. I've been at bars where the line for the women's bathroom was long and have seen girls just say fuck it and go to the men's room, wasn't much of a problem because we had plenty of space available.

[Anonymous No.10591255]

>>10591207
CS

[Anonymous No.10591257]

>>10591255
womp womp

[Anonymous No.10591261]

>>10591257
Also majored in chemistry.

[Anonymous No.10591263]

>>10591238
From a purely objective point of view, women always had fewer problems than men.
Fighting a war? -> men
Working 12 hours a day in a life-threatening factory? -> men
Being the sole legally responsible person when something goes wrong? -> men
Paying taxes? -> men

Sure, women had fewer political rights but boy were they exempt from legal and political obligations.

[Anonymous No.10591264]

>>10591261
okay, that redeems it somewhat, but if you post here, you should be aware we’re mostly math or physics majors

[Anonymous No.10591266]

>>10591241
>communication with plebs
>people
Heh, nothing personal kid

[Anonymous No.10591274]

>>10591168
Your personal experience totally trumps the statistics that show that women make less per hour than men for the same job.

[Anonymous No.10591277]

>>10591274
which they don't if someone would actually account for the fucking jobs.

[Anonymous No.10591278]

>>10591274
Men make the economy run while women are accessories in its functioning. There is an illness going around and it smells like Marxism.

[Anonymous No.10591282]

>>10591278
will the cure be worse than the disease?

[Anonymous No.10591289]

>>10591263
It really depends on when and where. And women have been abused plenty in factories since industrialization. Children too.

[Anonymous No.10591291]

>>10591282
The only cure for cancer is radiation therapy. Nukes are objectively better than the illness.

[Anonymous No.10591295]

>>10591289
Yes, they were abused too. No discussion there but on average to a lesser degree than men.

[Anonymous No.10591300]

>>10591274
okay, let’s say we fix the gender inequality gap in how much people get paid? are you sure that physics will suddenly become 50% women and fashion will suddenly become 50% men?

all that under the assumption that women get pregnant for 9 months of their prime working years while men don’t. ignore that for the purposes of this argument

[Anonymous No.10591306]

>>10591241
yikes.

[Anonymous No.10591308]

>>10591264
Joke's on you, I've already been posting here for months

>>10591289
Yeah ok but that doesn't happen nearly as much anymore

[Anonymous No.10591322]

>>10591308
>I've already been posting here for months
proof? show me some warosu links to threads/posts you’ve made. i am quite confident that women simply do nit posy here, and would be happy to see evidence against that hypothesis

[Anonymous No.10591326]

>>10591238
t. Someone who has never had a real job

[Anonymous No.10591342]

>>10591274

Women should be making babies, not in the workforce.

[Anonymous No.10591358]

>>10591274
that stats don't show that retard

[Anonymous No.10591361]

>>10591358
>Literally ignoring reality

[Anonymous No.10591362]

>>10591322
That sounds like more effort than I'm willing to exert, but earlier today I recommended a textbook on an amino acid thread that should still be active.

[Anonymous No.10591364]

>>10591361
please stop perpetuating the stereotype that women are bad at math

[Anonymous No.10591368]

>>10591342
Oh look an incel.

[Anonymous No.10591373]

>>10591274
But the stats literally show that women make the same per hour as men, and they're actually legally required to receive equal pay by law.

[Anonymous No.10591392]

>>10590989
The moral, good, and holy solution is to hate women.

[Anonymous No.10591419]

>>10591392
Oh boy another incel. You should make a little virginity club.

[Anonymous No.10591450]

>>10591419
>>10591368
what's this fishy smell in here?

[Anonymous No.10591460]

>>10591373
Technically there is a wage gap around 5-6%, but it can be mostly explained by confounding variables.

[Anonymous No.10591521]

>>10591419
>muh incel incel incel
go back to r9k

[Anonymous No.10591542]

>>10591274
the statistics have been repeatedly debunked and feminist retards still parrot this same bullshit

[Anonymous No.10591544]

>>10591241
cringe

[Anonymous No.10591549]

>>10591362
fine, well i’m obviously too drunk to keep
pestering you (based on my many typos), but big if true

i mean having a girl on /sci/ is unicorn level, but if you’re the one to break that ceiling, j support it

[Anonymous No.10591551]

>>10591322
>"hypothesis" in non scientific topic
>desperate to see a femanon's threads

I bet you imitate anime characters in real life

[Anonymous No.10591557]

>>10591521
Incel.

>>10591450
The smell of all the incels that inevitably commit suicide. It’s a good smell.

[Anonymous No.10591558]

>>10591361
then show me the source

[Anonymous No.10591561]

>>10590989
There's a big difference between "it's tougher for me because my boss/professor doesn't take me seriously" and "it's tougher for me because I don't see many other women therefore I don't feel comfortable here and I quit". There is no systemic discrimination. The pay gap is a myth.

[Anonymous No.10591570]

>>10591561
>it's tougher for me because my boss/professor doesn't take me seriously
Yeah, this happens all the time

[Anonymous No.10591576]

>>10590989
Feminism then
>women are unfairly restrained
Feminism now
>men are unfairly aided

When did this sleight of hand happen? Why the shift from uplifting one to dragging down another?

[Anonymous No.10591577]

>>10591561
>There is no systemic discrimination.

Prove it.

>The pay gap is a myth.

Nope. Women do earn less than men on average.

[Anonymous No.10591580]

>>10591576
>when did this sleight of hand happen?

It never did. It exists in your head.

[Anonymous No.10591581]

>>10591255
Master race

[Anonymous No.10591597]

>>10591274
>per hour

Professionals don’t get paid by the hour dumb ass, they are salary. If a woman in STEM is working more hours than a man it’s because she can’t solve her problems fast enough.

[Anonymous No.10591598]

>>10591277
Have you ever considered that discrimination could be a reason women don't go into the same kind of jobs as men?

[Anonymous No.10591614]

>>10591580
Nice gaslighting. I'll see u @ the women's rally, ye sis?

[Anonymous No.10591619]

>>10591561
>it's tougher for me because my boss/professor doesn't take me seriously
literally never seen this happen

>it's tougher for me because I don't see many other women therefore I don't feel comfortable here and I quit
This has happened to me but I got over it easily
"Women need other women to feel comfy in STEM" is more sexist than saying that there isn't a significant wage gap desu

[Anonymous No.10591623]

>>10591598
Hardcore manual labor is essentially prostitution for men. For a woman to do that would be retarded because she can easily outdo that risk/reward ratio by literally being a prostitute. Prostitutes earnings are not counted in any of these studies and is completely tax free in most cases.

>inb4 not many women are prostitutes

Your 60 yo grandma who used to be a nurse is giving handjobs on the side as a “massage therapist”

[Anonymous No.10591633]

>>10591623
No no no, anon. Men working back breaking labor jobs CHOOSE to be there. Women who are prostitutes are being FORCED by OUR SOCIETY.

Men act, women react. Every good feminist knows this! Women are weak victims and we have to protect them.

[Anonymous No.10591634]

>>10590989
>be women
>get free stuff because of vagina
wow so oppressed

[Anonymous No.10591635]

>>10591023
>i for one probably didn’t get two job offers i wanted because of it (white straight “cis” male)
and yet white straight cis males are like 90% of the STEM workforce.
you just can't buy the concept that the person that got hired was actually more qualified than you.

[Anonymous No.10591651]

>>10591619
Epic anecdotal evidence my dude thanks

[Anonymous No.10591661]

>>10591635
NSF says white males make up about half of the STEM workforce, nice job pulling stats out of your ass

[Anonymous No.10591668]

>>10591623
My grandma isn't 60 like yours because I wasn't born to a drug addict at 16. Either that or you are 12 years old and should get the fuck off this board

[Anonymous No.10591715]

>>10591635
>and yet white straight cis males are like 90% of the STEM workforce.
confirmed doesn't work in STEM

[Anonymous No.10591731]

>>10591023
>the social scientists fail to see how maybe, just maybe, guys like science and math more but women like fashion and cooking more, thanks to our hunter-gatherer ancestry going back ~200,000 years.

only took a couple of decades since Title IX before the gender distribution flipped entirely in fields like biology - this conclusion sounds like bullshit to me

[Anonymous No.10591732]

>>10591731
Why do women like biology more than physics?

[Anonymous No.10591738]

>>10591633
Except you can't protect them because they're strong and independent and don't need no man!

[Anonymous No.10591753]

>>10591731
Also what percentage of each gender of bio majors are pre-med or at least potentially interested in medicine? This is an honest question and not a rhetorical one like that last one. I'm kind of curious if medicine (and veterinary medicine, other animal-related fields etc) is a motivating factor that makes women choose biology.

[Anonymous No.10591757]

>>10591168
I don't think I could string together words good enough to explain why women shouldn't have been allowed to vote but me personally and my friends, whenever we look at a girl in my college doing well( I go to a good enough college), I never think about how smart she would have to be to study in the same class with us incels but which Women-in-STEM program she would have applied for.

[Anonymous No.10591761]

>>10591757
Incel. Commit suicide.

[Anonymous No.10591762]

>>10591753
Pre-med probably does explain some of the disparity since women gravitate more towards people-focused industries.

But likewise even in graduate school it seems like there's a clear female plurality in biology

[Anonymous No.10591766]

>>10591732
Because women are less oppressed in biology

[Anonymous No.10591781]

>>10591762
Explain, no, but I think it's part of the trend and at least a contributing factor.

Also, bioengineering seems to be a lot more appealing to women than other engineering fields.

Really, I'm just not sure what the takeaway is. Biologists are less sexist for some reason? Despite making up 13% of scientists, physicists commit 60% of the sexual harassment? The Muh Patriarchy hypothesis doesn't seem very parsimonious when it comes to addressing these discrepancies.

[Anonymous No.10591782]

>>10591757
I've never applied for any women in STEM scholarships or programs. I got in because I'm good at math and science.

[Anonymous No.10591786]

>>10591766
No, it's less math heavy and women tend to be less interested in math.

[Anonymous No.10591832]

>>10591782
But did you fill the box in which it asked for your sex? I am sorry to break it to you but always remember there was a more deserving incel than you who didn't get the admission because you were a women.

[Anonymous No.10591840]

>>10591168
Same. I'm treated as if I have equal knowledge being in accepted in the same place.

[Anonymous No.10591857]

>"STEM is hard for women!!"
- retard

Your STEM career as a woman is on fucking roller skates if you are even slightly attractive and of average intelligence. Doors will open constantly for you.
This also just makes a lot of men dislike and distrust women who *are* there on merit because how do you know they're not there on a crusade of bullshit? Look at that the Metoo movement has done to mentorships for women, nobody wants to deal with this fucking bullshit in a serious environment and the solution is to engineer it out entirely.

My advice to anon's reading this on their job applications is, if asked, say you're gay and use this stupid system against itself.

[Anonymous No.10591858]

>>10591840
Lmao. Actually believing guys around you don't consider you a brainlet and a burden if you are in the same project group as them.

[Anonymous No.10591859]

>>10591832
My high school GPA was 4.1, and my college GPA was 3.8. Pretty sure I earned my place, thanks.

[Anonymous No.10591867]

>>10591858
Will always be a virgin

[Anonymous No.10591902]

The people saying
> Incel
at guys is definitely the most pathological in this thread.

[Anonymous No.10591904]

>>10591731
>post hoc ergo propter hoc

There was much more going on culturally and legally in those decades than Title IX. The ends to not justify the means.

[Anonymous No.10591907]

>>10590989
you're an idiot. the issue is merit and raw intelligence.... the iQ differences among sexes.

[Anonymous No.10591911]

>>10591786
>women tend to be less interested in math.
Oh yeah, that's also because of oppression.

[Anonymous No.10591923]

>>10591911
Is it though?
I've seen zero evidence of that

[Anonymous No.10591941]

>>10591859
Is that alot? ”Muh anglocentrism” kys desu

[Anonymous No.10591946]

>>10591941
On a 0-4.0 scale
Both are generally seen as very good GPAs.

[Anonymous No.10591971]

Don't blame women in STEM for the current situation, many of them hate it because those that got their on their own merits are assumed to have gotten a free ride. The people responsible are "activists" and the institutions that refuse to stand up to them.

[Anonymous No.10591984]

>>10591971
>activists go on about "speaking truth to power"

Why don't our institutions have the courage to likewise speak truth to adolescence?

[Anonymous No.10591992]

>>10591984
Because the rank and file of education tend to "progressive" after decades of infiltration so if a dean wants to call it out they risk an employee strike and internal documents being leaked.

[Anonymous No.10592003]

>>10590989
Never seen a picture more accurate. Only women are stupid enough to take the hard way, when the easy way is literally right next to them.

[Anonymous No.10592105]

>>10590989
>and avoid irking the SJWs
what is the downside of irking them tho?

[Anonymous No.10592148]

>>10590989
Accurate except the escalator should be labeled with a star of david

[Anonymous No.10592160]

>>10591859
>gpa matters at all
The only thing that matters is your raw intelligence thot.

[Anonymous No.10592162]

>>10591241
>"Hey guys look at me I can talk, a skill that has been used by man for millions of years, aren't I special?!?!?"

[Anonymous No.10592219]

>>10590989
Let me put it this way OP. Theres no use in siding one side n half for the other. Whamen are sub human scum who only consume id say society should start automatised them n render them solely for reproductive purpose only. This war of sexes have to end period. Either one must be rob of consciousness n serve the other. NOW FIGHT!

[Anonymous No.10592278]

>>10592219
I just want to do Physics without having gender politics forced down my throat

[Anonymous No.10592285]

>>10591274

[Anonymous No.10592287]

>>10591361
>reality
>taking everyone job clumped together instead of comparing by job

[Anonymous No.10592293]

>>10590989
This isn't science or math.

Funny how I get warned/banned for uni threads but /r9k/ tier trash like this gets to stay up. Fuck jannies.

[Anonymous No.10592303]

>>10592293
And fuck niggers

[Anonymous No.10592305]

>>10592285
I wonder if there could be a reason why women don't go into majors like STEM? Perhaps it is because they are filled with stemlord incels like in this thread

[Anonymous No.10592328]

>>10592303
based

[Anonymous No.10592336]

>>10592305
If they massively go out of a field for a few incels in those degrees, do they really like the topic itself, or just care about getting a job? The less women go into stem the better.
Without the Chads and women it will always pay good money comparatively so I don't really care.
Whatever the market decides I'm happy with because since I like STEM fields on one end I get paid more, on the other I interact with more women and increase my chances of sex. It seems like a non issue to me

[Anonymous No.10592338]

>>10592305
If women allow the presence of people they don't get along with to determine the entire course of their education, it's because they didn't really care about whatever course is in question.
I hated EVERY SINGLE PERSON in my Neuroscience department and I pushed through for 6 years. Are women just too weak to do that, or do they not care about the disciplines in question, or are they simply overly affected by social pressures? What explains the difference? I eagerly anticipate your thoughtful response.