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There will never been any alien contact since they probably have the same limitations that we have, we will probably just barely manage to colonize mars, we will never leave our solar system and we'll all die even before that the sun starts to expand.

Forget your Mass Effect utopia, space is just an extremely hostile environment for life.

>> No.10589773
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>>10589759
Please post a longer set of unsupported conjectures to back up your definitive statement next time.

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>>10589759
What if we found life swimming around under the surface of Europa or Enceladus?
Would still be an amazing discovery, even if we can't talk to it

Or what if the James Webb telescope found strong evidence of life on (relatively) nearby exoplanets?
They might be way beyond the reach of human travel but perhaps we could laser some probes there, would only take a few decades to arrive

>> No.10589814

If we have managed to survive ourselves so far, surly if make it over the two decades we will break out! That's the goal, out, and in regards to contact we have had contact all along!

We will just gain more power and options to travel and communicate when we chose!

>> No.10589819

>>10589814
>we have had contact all along

What's your evidence for this?
People convinced that the ayy lmaos are already here always seem to cite completely different things

>> No.10589848

>>10589819
Not>>10589814
Could it be the "wow signal"?

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>>10589759

Most planets out of there are probably either waterworlds super-earths with little if any dry land, or mars-like deserts. Size has a big impact on the amount of water on your planet. We lucked out and got something in between.

>> No.10589892

>>10589759
We'll probably all die before the sun starts to expand, not the other way around.

>> No.10589910

>>10589892
Do we technically enough time to become at least a type 3 civilisation before that happens?

>> No.10589936

>>10589759
The thing is the universe is more likely to be full of synthetic lifeforms than organic ones because synthetic life can evolve much much faster than organic ones. In no time would synthetic life colonize the entire galaxy.

>> No.10589953

>>10589799
IF we found life on another body in our solar system, and it was demonstrably not related to Earth life, that would indicate life is probably very common in the universe. One planet with life and no data on any other planet is not enugh data to start thinking about probabilities. But if life arises independently twice inside the same solar system, the likelihood of life being incredibly rare seems a lot less likely.

To a slightly lesser extent, this would be true if we find life in one of the first nearby systems we look at with the capability of detecting it.

>> No.10589986

>>10589759
You underestimate the adaptability of life

>> No.10590932

>>10589953
Even if it was distantly related to earth's tree of life that would still be big news because it means panspermia is viable. Either spreading from an origin in the solar system, or the entire solar system had a seeding event.

>> No.10590941

>>10589759
>hi i’m OP and i’m a nihilist fag
reworded your entire paragraph

>> No.10590970

>>10590941
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

>> No.10590995

>>10589759
Generation ships will always be viable. It's only a question of motivation.