/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10588978]

platonists btfo

[Anonymous No.10589008]

>>10588978
Low quality b8. Air resistance will eventually nullify this systems energy.

[Anonymous No.10589011]

>>10588978
>perpetual-motion
>webm time 0:04

[Anonymous No.10589066]

Not perpetual because the rubber will eventually wear out. There is a lot of biotic energy needed to grow and milk a rubber tree.

[Anonymous No.10589079]

>>10589008
But what if it's actually in a vacuum and the guy behind the contraption is wearing an oxygen mask, what then?

[Anonymous No.10589082]

>>10588978

[Anonymous No.10589095]

>>10589079
Friction.

[Anonymous No.10589129]

>>10588978
I know who this guy is. He's a complete retard incapable of making an argument. sage

[Anonymous No.10589222]

There's gravity outthere, but don't tell dudes who worship Newton, they'll freak out when they realize you can hop in into unlimited source of acceleration that cancels out the friction.

[Anonymous No.10589231]

>>10588978
What does platonism have to do with perpetual motion?

[Anonymous No.10589239]

>>10589079
He'd need a pressure suit to contain himself, vacuum does bad things to exposed skin

[Anonymous No.10589241]

>>10589231
t. cavedweller

[Anonymous No.10589245]

>>10588978
zomg physics btfo

[Anonymous No.10589247]

>>10589245
Totally different "forces" applied.

[Anonymous No.10589250]

>>10588978
You can see his shoulders move from side to side as he puts pressure into the table to tilt it back and forth. i.e. fake and gay

[Anonymous No.10589251]

>>10589247
good argument

[Anonymous No.10589255]

>>10589250
lol true

[Anonymous No.10589283]

>>10589251
Ball is in costant motion of falling and using it energy to transform the platform in a way that it is falling down for a whole cycle, ocassionally being lifted by "huge" lever, so it gains more potential energy than it needs to gain that potential energy, overbalanced wheel principle, definitely not a pendulum.

[Anonymous No.10589299]

>>10589283
>hurr durr it gains more potential energy than itgains
>hurr durr overbalanced wheel pRiNcIpLe

[Anonymous No.10589408]

>>10588978
He is moving his shoulders to apply pressure.
Also, this is not perpetual motion, the motion will eventually stop. If anything, he is taking advantage of gravity.
The balls here are a common thing in perpetual motion videos, they don't actually make any difference, it'll stop anyway.

[Anonymous No.10589472]

>>10588978
That's a neat office desk decoration.

[Anonymous No.10589499]

>>10588978
he's pushing the table slightly.

[Anonymous No.10589749]

How is this even supposed to work? The balls both go in one direction, causing the whole structure to rotate, but it rotates in such a way that should push them farther in that same direction. How does it suddenly change directions and push the balls the other direction.

[Anonymous No.10589760]

>>10589408
Follow-up reply
You can also see the structure get noticeably faster and slower on a certain part of the cycle.
That just confirms that he is adding pressure with his shoulders.

[Anonymous No.10589800]

>>10589299
KYS

[Trashy the Incontinent No.10590303]

>>10589129
>incapable of making an argument
...but he a made a doodad. Unsaged.

[Anonymous No.10590337]

>>10588978
This is just a retarded way of build a pendulum.
Even if it you ignore friction, air resistance, etc. It won't run forever if you try to extract any amount of energy from it.

[Anonymous No.10590351]

>>10588978
What's this meant to show exactly? Trying get useful energy out of it and see how long to keeps going for.

[Anonymous No.10590445]

>>10589066
Wait so the rubber is just acting as a momentum dampener? Without them it would just fall to one side and stay there?

[Anonymous No.10590475]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40msMLFj1uM

[Anonymous No.10590482]

>>10589749
I have no idea either, I don't see how this is supposed to work

[Anonymous No.10590516]

>>10590482
It's supposed to shift the center of balance such that the balls are either in motion (because the structure is tipped) or causing the whole structure to tilt to the other side because the balls are forcing the "perspective" of the weight distribution on the bottom board to change.

[Anonymous No.10590565]

>>10588978
He's making it do that with his penis.

[Anonymous No.10590575]

>>10590516
But that's nonsense. Look at the damned thing. The weight shifting over to the right side, making the right side heavier, causes the left side to drop and the right side to lift?

IdontthinksoTim.mp3

[Anonymous No.10590584]

>>10589250
Well spotted.

[Anonymous No.10590613]

>>10590575
Pause the video and trace the center of gravity down. Look at how it's being applied to the board.

[Anonymous No.10590718]

>>10590337
Pendulum usually does not contain lever.

[Anonymous No.10590726]

>>10590575
It uses lever to move ball itself to different state of potential energy by itself.

[Anonymous No.10590738]

>>10590718
Doesn't make a difference. As far as perpetual motion goes they work about as well.

tbf, OPs POS will probably lose energy much much faster

[Anonymous No.10590760]

>>10590613
That's not how that works though. All that's doing is forming an arch, so the weight at the center is being evenly distributed, the weight on either side is still pushing to the same side since the're connected.

[Anonymous No.10590914]

>>10589095
Replace the balls with levitating magnets that don't actually touch the ends, only transfer force.

[Anonymous No.10590920]

here’s a hypothesis: the webm was shot on a tiltable stage, and the guy’s aren’t movements are him stabilizing himself as someone off-camera tilts the stage/wall/table/camera setup all resting on the stage

[Anonymous No.10590925]

>>10590920
*the guy’s arm movements

[Anonymous No.10590935]

If you WERE to make this sort of system as ideal as physically possible, what would be the actual means by which energy leaves the system?

[Anonymous No.10590940]

>>10590935
gravitational wave radiation. no stopping that for something so herky-jerky

[Anonymous No.10590978]

>>10590760
The reason this wouldn't work with one ball is that the ball would have to roll across the center of gravity for the system, imbalancing it. The energy comes from the non-rigidity of the boards the balls are rolling on.

[Anonymous No.10590988]

>>10588978
Whoah somebody tell redit

[Anonymous No.10591029]

>>10588978
No one is btfo. You can't break the laws of thermodynamics. This isn't debatable. There's no such thing as perpetual motion, end of discussion.

[Anonymous No.10591065]

If perpetual energy doesnt exist explain humans. HMM? What now?

[Anonymous No.10591073]

>>10591065
>t. posts while eating a McD’s burger

[Anonymous No.10591079]

>>10591073
>poops and pees to refill lands and chicken

Hmm?

[Anonymous No.10591083]

>>10588978
Electromagnets or a hidden wire.

[Anonymous No.10591084]

>>10591029
Explain how your mom is perpetually bouncing on this dick, then.

[Anonymous No.10591088]

>>10591079
chicken and burger-cows eat off the land, and the land gathers energy from pic related

[Anonymous No.10591091]

>>10591088
Sun is a bitch

[Anonymous No.10591112]

>>10591091
nah, dude, Sol is dank bro *puff*
back in the day almost all primitive civilizations had their religion based around sub worship. the ancients were smart af *puff*
hit this shit

[Anonymous No.10591114]

>>10591112
key rofl not sub *puff*
i meant “sun”, my bad dude, so fckin high right now kek

[Anonymous No.10591745]

>platonists btfo
unironically... what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10591920]

>>10591745
Something about the cave, I guess.

[Anonymous No.10592060]

>>10588978
What does troll physics have to do with Plato?

[Anonymous No.10592097]

[Anonymous No.10592526]

>>10592060
get a load of this guy

[Anonymous No.10592570]

>>10588978
Put one piston with a spring at each side of the device and you won't have a perpetual motion machine but you'll be able to produce energy, and lots of it

[Anonymous No.10592696]

>>10592570
Define “lots of it”

[Anonymous No.10592807]

>>10592696
Let's just say the energy crisis is a myth

[Anonymous No.10592877]

>>10592807
Why don't you build a free energy machine so and run your house on it?

[Anonymous No.10592971]

>>10592877
I'm incredibly inept at building stuff. But if you were to help me I would do it

[Anonymous No.10592986]

>>10592971
>I'm incredibly inept at building stuff.
More than just that I suspect.

[Anonymous No.10592997]

>>10589499
he's pushing the table to keep his balance

The entire room is tilting side to side, and the camera is fixed to the room.

[Anonymous No.10593003]

>>10592986
wrong. just that

[Anonymous No.10593020]

>>10593003
You're a bad liar too.

[Anonymous No.10593053]

Honest question but do you guys know where I can buy a motorized perpetual motion machine? Despite the fact that they're idiotic I find watching the mechanisms to be pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.10593062]

>>10590914
The magnets will wear down, but long before then the energy will be dissipated as heat inside the magnets.

[Anonymous No.10593065]

>>10593053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUZ8vrj-qzM
one of these? just get it from the same local place that sells lavalamps

[Anonymous No.10593098]

The real question is why nobody build these machines as toys and become rich off selling them?

I would unironically buy one of those as an ornament.

Since most are mechanical based they wont even need bateries, just some kind of gear system would be enough to keep them running for some time.

This shit is like a goldmine for toy makers.
This is the real billion dollar question.

[Anonymous No.10593321]

>>10593020
oh yeah i'm bad at that also, but that's it

[Anonymous No.10593352]

>>10592997
>>10590920