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10585852 No.10585852 [Reply] [Original]

If you were to freeze yourself in stasis for the goal of being resurrected at a later date. Unless you propagated some family lineage which had the money and desire to resurrect you, why would anyone resurrect you? There's literally no reason to.

>> No.10585855

It's not unrealistic to hope that there will be a post-scarcity society in the future that's magnanimous enough to resurrect whoever they're able to.

>> No.10585856

Why do we need a million brainlet.jpg images with gay questions attached? Fuck off and sage

>> No.10585859

If I would be unfrozen in the future (100 years or more from now), I think people would love to know how life was back in this days (plus many biological implications)

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>>10585856
They're to keep people like you away, we don't want to overload your dumbass with too complicated a question.

>> No.10586175

This is why corporations are more important than we think, and are regarded as entities. One person making a promise and drafting an agreement may uphold it, however the fact that life does go on and a person can kick 5he bucket it is difficult to just impose the responsibility on someone to uphold an agreement, promise, silly rude really. Often such requests and impositions are passed down to those that may not do right and only agree because it is a dying will.....

But when you have an entity a cooperation with clear guidelines upheld by those that do come and go but do so at their will, it is more ethical andreasnoble of an expectatio for the contract to be honored. In this case the person to be brought back into functioning state and unfrozen.

Why, because it is only right, it was agreed to.

>> No.10586181

>>10585852
they might want to resurect you because they might want to know data from old times

>> No.10586202

>>10585852
Imagine if we had someone preserved from the 1500s. Wouldn't historians do everything within their might to ressurect them?

Hell they might even do that for someone from the 1800s.

So wouldn't someone in the 3000s want to revive someone from the late 21st century in an era before humanity became interstellar? Of course they would want to revive you.

>> No.10586203

>>10585855
Post-scarcity will never happen because due to entropy mass-energy will always be limited to some degree.

Sure the cost of goods and services will plummet and cause lots of wealth individual far beyond what we have now. But we also have insane amount of goods and services compared to hunter-gatherers yet we don't consider ourselves post-scarcity. That is how the future is going to be.

There will never be true post-scarcity.

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>>10586203
>entropy

>> No.10586225

Well freezing essentially implies slowing down movement, the only way we do that for now that I am aware of is controlling temperature which does damage tissue and thus will require some major advancement in regeneration, especially brain tissue which is so sensitive.

Personally I 5hink we need to find a less invasive method of slowing, haulting function/movmenet/motion and containing it in the matter that is not so reliant on temperature and can be fully reversed with minimal consequence.

No doubt in my mind it is possible, we can explore where to start easy.ly.

>> No.10586234

>>10586219
what's with it?

>> No.10586248

>>10586225
>the only way we do that for now that I am aware of is controlling temperature which does damage tissue and thus will require some major advancement in regeneration

This is not true anymore. Nowadays we have a sort of anti-freeze which prohibits the liquid in your cells from forming ice crystals and damaging the cells.

We use this for organ transplantation quite a lot. Organs that have been frozen for up to 1 month have been transplanted and be in working order. We have never tested it on complete humans. Only on rabits (successfully). But in theory we could do it to healthy humans even today.

I really hate this faggot blog but this is a really good write up with a lot of good sources on the subject if you are interested.

https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html

>> No.10586250

>>10586248
Thank you kindly, you are very right.

I, guess I was looking in my minds eye in terms of fields...

So much to learn. :)

>> No.10586282

>>10585852
Historians would probably pay to bring you back for their own research.

>> No.10586285

>>10586175
A state can fulfill the same role.

>> No.10586324

>>10585852
because of the legend of my buried pirate booty! AARRRRRRGGGGH!

>> No.10586360

>>10585859
Theyll already have quantum reverse computing and will know more about our liveslive than we do

>> No.10586364

>>10585856
based and brainletpilled

>> No.10586365

>>10586360
Not him, but while what you said is absolutely true and we most likely wouldn't get resurrected 100 years from now. In 1000 years time people would want to resurrect someone from 1000 years ago purely for entertainment reasons. Maybe even to scan its memories since it's a new information to archive or whatever.

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>>10585852
>freeze yourself
It's called vitrification retard

>> No.10586403

>>10586365
also in't this relying on no power outages for several hundred years at a time? did you guys see that story about the woman who wanted a career and froze her eggs so she could have kids later and it turned out that most of them went bad and she didn't have enough left for a viable pregnancy? pretty sure that's going to happen to 100% of cryogenically frozen people. I don't think there has been a company with regular cashflow that I'd trust to be around in 200 years. And freezing people isn't really a cashflow business IMO

>> No.10586416

>>10586403
Yeah but legislation actually advanced over time. For example nowadays if a cryonics company goes bankrupt the corpses actually get transfered to another cryogenics company. All cryonics companies have a insurance that cover the cost and pay it out to the cryonics company that inherits the bodies.

In the future we'll most likely give the bodies some form of rights from the government as well.

So over time it gets less and less likely that your body won't get preserved. Especially as the costs get lower to keep you preserved with better technology.

>> No.10586423

>>10586403
Also the way the company makes money is by investing the payment of freezing and using the dividends of the investment to cover the cost. Most companies (claim) to be profitable as the dividend payout is higher than the cost per person.

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10586445

>Stand up. There you go. You were frozen. What's your name?

>> No.10586455

>>10585852
>implying current cryonics are anything other than expensive corpse-storage