/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10582664]

> Sorry anon, this is a feminist graph theory workshop. No m*les aloud.

[Anonymous No.10582669]

>> Sorry anon, this is a feminist graph theory workshop. No m*les aloud.
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.10582674]

>>10582664
Don’t see that anywhere. Who’d you quote?

[Anonymous No.10582699]

>>10582664
How many people could there be to attend that?

[Anonymous No.10582753]

>>10582664
>No m*les aloud.
Silencing me is not allowed.

[Anonymous No.10582805]

>>10582753

what are you gonna do about it? you can't do shit l o l

[sage goes in all fields No.10582824]

[Anonymous No.10582830]

>>10582824

i saw this poster on a wall today, so fuck you

[Miranda Mole No.10582860]

>>10582664
>No m*les aloud
Just wait until I remodel your backyard, bitch

[Anonymous No.10582864]

@10582824
definitely not true and you're delusional to think this

[Anonymous No.10582870]

>>10582664
Can someone explain why "Women in Graph Theory" is even a thing?

[Anonymous No.10582890]

>>10582824
You clearly have never gone to college if /pol/ is the only time you see feminist shit

[Anonymous No.10583094]

>>10582664
I'm more bothered by the fact that none of the professors are from the University of Minnesota, in fact none of them are even from Minnesotan colleges. You have Texans, Wisconsinites, Canadians, Iowans, Virginians, Nebraskans, Alaskans, Michiganese, Hawaiians, and New Yorkers coming to teach Minnesotan women graph theory? Fucking why?

[Anonymous No.10583109]

>Claim to identify as female
>Attend workshop
Check mate feminists

[Anonymous No.10583134]

>>10582664
So do they have bra pillowfights like a sorority house or what

[Anonymous No.10583139]

>>10582824
i hate /pol/ but you're retarded if you don't think this bullshit is permeating academia and STEM industry

[Anonymous No.10583144]

>>10583094
>why ?
They need to get the lowest IQ fags possible. University of Minnesota was to clever for it

[Anonymous No.10583146]

>>10582824
Huehue

[Anonymous No.10583283]

>>10582824
XDDDD DAE LE HATE /POL/ XXDDD LE NEONAZI BOARD XDDD LEL EPIC

[Anonymous No.10583287]

>>10582824
(U)

[Anonymous No.10583321]

>>10582824
Here goes one (you), t. Yuro

[Anonymous No.10583323]

>>10583109
>Being called a sissy all day
yeah, c-checkmate, mate

[Anonymous No.10583357]

@@10582824
>/POL/ /POL/ /POL/!!!!!1!!!
Keep announcing sage, bro

[Anonymous No.10583440]

>>10582870
It's an easy way for someone to score a talk/presentation that they can put on their CV, with a majority of the competition taken out of the pool.
People who help organize it can claim that they've done outreach/pro-diversity crap.
The department that hosts it has something to point to when someone asks what they do to encourage women and minorities.

Basically, enough special interests benefit from it that they can make it happen.

[Anonymous No.10583818]

>>10583440
That's interesting, but graph theory seems awfully specific. I would understand "Women in Mathematics" or "Women in Computer Science" for example.

[Anonymous No.10583839]

>>10583094
Honestly.... it's the Twin Cities, what do you expect? UMN has enough cash to host stupid workshops for special interests, meanwhile the state keeps the MNSCU system so cash poor they can barely keep schools like St Cloud and Mankato open for business.

t. SCSU alum

[Anonymous No.10584163]

>>10583818
It's a workshop, these things are supposed to be very specialised. In fact, graph theory is a rather broad topic for a workshop.

[Anonymous No.10584169]

>>10582669
>>10582674
newfag. he's quoting what the workshop literally says. Males aren't allowed. It's a workshop for women in graph theory and applications.

>>10582664
This is my problem with most US universities. Even STEM sciences are slowly starting to become overly political and 'progressive'. Hell, I don't care about your fucking political beliefs, I just wanna do my PhD in CS.

[Anonymous No.10584176]

>>10583134
they line up ass to vag in a circle to demonstrate closed circuits and cyclical walks

[Anonymous No.10584650]

The university almost definitely would let you sign up anyway. You wouldn't even need an excuse, if someone asked when you showed up you'd just say that you were interested in seeing how this class for women differed. Just because a class has women in the name doesn't mean it is exclusive for women
Pretty much every single US university has a non-discrimatory clause

[Anonymous No.10584667]

>>10584169
>newfag. he's quoting what the workshop literally says. Males aren't allowed. It's a workshop for women in graph theory and applications
There are lots "women's" groups at my uni and not of them prohibit males fron attending. To the contrary, I literally get harrassed to join on my way to library. Some with culture centers. Nobody gives a shit if your white and doing work in the Asian and Pacific Islander Student's center. Just stay of of the Black Student Union because nigs are loud. I don't believe you're a STEM student or graduate, btw.

Have sex

[Anonymous No.10584678]

>>10584169
>Males aren't allowed.
Where does it say that, retard?

[Anonymous No.10584681]

>>10584650
>>10584667
Why isn't there a graph theory for men?

[Anonymous No.10584690]

>>10584667
Maybe they think you're a woman.

[Anonymous No.10584700]

>>10582664
>Fat white m*le complains about not being let into women's only club
>more at 11

[Anonymous No.10584714]

That's how you get a girlfriend

[Anonymous No.10584717]

>>10584690
flattering :3
>>10584681
Because nobody made it yet. Nothing is stopping you.
>he didn't respond to the part about me doubting his credentials
lol go back

[Anonymous No.10584722]

>>10584169
>newfag. he's quoting what the workshop literally says. Males aren't allowed. It's a workshop for women in graph theory and applications.
But the poster doesn't say that. So I ask again, who is the OP quoting? Did someone say this to him?

[Anonymous No.10584732]

>>10584681
Nobody is teaching it. You can be the one to step up for the men of graph theory

[Anonymous No.10584960]

>>10584650
>>10584714
>>10584667

If you read the description, they clearly don't want m*n to apply. Im sure they have an entire 2000 page volume of anti-discrimination clauses, but they obviously don't apply here

[Anonymous No.10584969]

>>10584960
If you actually went to cpllege, you'd know these feminist groups are desperate to get whoever they can to show up and dont discriminate

[Anonymous No.10585036]

>>10584969

This isn't your average feminist activism group, brainlet. They're trying to organize an all female workshop.

[Anonymous No.10585041]

>>10585036
>read the application
>select gender: male; female; decline to say
[Doubt]

[Anonymous No.10585042]

>>10584169
>newfag. he's quoting what the workshop literally says. Males aren't allowed. It's a workshop for women in graph theory and applications.

Nope, doesn’t say that.

[Anonymous No.10585065]

>>10585041

It's an application. They leave the option because they want to know if they should deny you or not.

[Anonymous No.10585109]

>>10582664
If you're in our math department I'd question why you'd ever want to go. My view is that the program is aimed squarely at women outside of the UMN math department, at perhaps Macalaster, St. Thomas, State, or other places. No one I know had any sort of interest in attending.

[Anonymous No.10585197]

>>10585109

I'm not in the math department. I'm just a """combinatorics enthusiast""" who would like to point out that we're letting the dykes ban men from events now.

[Anonymous No.10585227]

>>10585197
Ahh, I see. Well, neither you or I should care until they do some honest science in their drum circle, and when that happens we'll both be long dead.

[Anonymous No.10585252]

[Anonymous No.10585302]

>>10585065
>Apply to all female workshop
>Get denied for being male
>Since it's hosted with Academia cash, activate your Title 9 Trap Card and enjoy the fallout

[Anonymous No.10585403]

>>10585302
I bet they would accept qualified males since the main purpose of this seems to be networking. If most applications are female then it has the same effect of increasing females' network connections.

r9k will take any excuse to have a tantrum.

[Anonymous No.10585492]

>>10585403

how would that be any more that acceptable? It's still an openly biased event.

[Anonymous No.10585975]

>>10585492
Not the guy you're replying to but how is saying "hey, if you're a girl and like graph theory, come to meet other girls who also like graph theory" bad? I really fail to see any problem other than you looking for excuses to blame women for your sexual frustration.

[Anonymous No.10586261]

>>10585975

because it's a professional event and gender shouldnt matter?

[Anonymous No.10586268]

>>10585975
What's with the virgin shaming?

[Anonymous No.10586318]

>>10586268
Bitter virgins are shameful

[Anonymous No.10586320]

>>10586261
Who gives a shit? Turns out people like to group with those similar to them. Do you want to know how I know you've never been on a university campus?

[Anonymous No.10586322]

>>10582664
Actually I find this quite racist. Where is the workshop for Blacks in analytic number theory?

[Anonymous No.10586325]

>>10586318
Guess who sounds bitter right now.

[Anonymous No.10586337]

>>10582664
>Claim you're non-binary, male presenting, trans-*
>Either get accepted and trigger some cunts
>Or don't and scream discrimination

Win/win desu.

[Anonymous No.10586344]

>>10582664
>>10586320
>>10586322
MATH CONFERENCE JUST FOR ASIANS
GAIJIN SHALL NOT ENTER THE REALM
What's the problem, sometimes folks just want to be with other folks who are similar to them. It's called self esteem and role models ok

[Anonymous No.10586451]

>>10586344
>strawmanning this hard
Others have already explained to you they're not banning men from entry.

[Anonymous No.10586543]

>>10586320

I lived on campus this year. dumb ass

[Anonymous No.10586547]

>>10586268
>>10585975

Who said anything about virginity??

[Anonymous No.10586745]

>>10586451
Yeah we just put "women" in the title for no reason. It doesn't actually mean anything, we just thought it needed a little something extra in the name and chose the word "women" uniformly at random.

[Anonymous No.10586789]

>>10586745
They want to help women meet other women in the same field. Putting "women" in the title helps towards this purpose. How can you not grasp this simple concept?

[Anonymous No.10586883]

>>10586789
>They want to help women
>but they don't discriminate based on gender
Choose one and only one you drooling mongoloid

[Anonymous No.10587257]

>>10586789

From the description (read the thread,) they are objectively banning men. Maybe if you have a fields metal they'll let you in, but that's beside the point.

[Anonymous No.10587268]

>>10586789

From the description (read the thread,) they are objectively banning men. Maybe if you have a fields medal they'll let you in, but that's beside the point.

[Anonymous No.10587279]

>>10586789
We really want to help Asians doing pdes, that's why we called it the PDE Conference Just For Asians, anyone can apply though of course.

[Anonymous No.10587297]

>>10582664
In my country I would actually be able to sue the university for this.

I went to a female-only highschool due to this. I actually wasn't the only dude but there were almost 2400 women and only ~80 dudes. Needless to say the amount of attention I received was unlike anything I have experienced since. Developed depression after graduation.

It also had some downsides like being the only male in biology class every time something was brought up about the male anatomy the girls would stare at me and make it awkward or the female teachers would ask me to tell something about the feelings/workings of being male which was shitty.

Such is the wonder of European egalitarianism.

[Anonymous No.10587305]

>>10587297
>Needless to say the amount of attention I received was unlike anything I have experienced since. Developed depression after graduation.

You must have been drowning in pussy in highschool.

[Anonymous No.10587326]

>>10587305
Highschool is ages 13-19 here. But this is Europe and most people are sexually active around 14-15. I actually was really popular of course but now I'm an incel. It feels like shit to peak at such a young age. I only had one girlfriend in college.

[Anonymous No.10587997]

>>10587279

> fucking ugly subhuman leafs

[Anonymous No.10588010]

>>10586883
Sorry pal, Mongoloid is racist now.

[Anonymous No.10588737]

How does one even become a "graph theorist" these days? It feels like all the natural problems were resolved 200 years ago by Euler, Hamilton etc., that all the CS offshoot problems by P-vs-NP types in the 60s, and the weird extremal shit by Hungarians in 1980. What the hell do these women "see" in modern graph theory research?

[Anonymous No.10588763]

>>10582664
do you really want to work in a field where there's no women? what are you, gay?

[Anonymous No.10588766]

>>10587326
self-ascribing an incel identity to yourself probably doesn't help

[Anonymous No.10588779]

fucking stupid cunts. why cant faggy insufferable people like that stay out of mathematics.

[Anonymous No.10588783]

>>10582664

i figured they would start doing this

> goes to this course
> lists it as just "graph theory"
> thereby devalueing people who have gone to the real course
> anybody who dares to criticize this practise will get branded a misogynist

[Anonymous No.10588786]

>>10588737

it's something they want to list on their CV, so they create their own version of the course thats watered down to trash so they can easily get it done and put it on their CV

[Anonymous No.10588827]

>>10584681
That is just called graph theory.

[Anonymous No.10589150]

>>10587279
>t. incel virgin stemlord who will never understand that this situation is completely different from that situation in arcane ways that mortal man could scarce articulate

[Anonymous No.10589259]

>>10582805
This. They own academia already so all you can do is fuck off OP

[Anonymous No.10589373]

>>10588737
Nah, there are still a lot of natural problems in graph theory. There's a rich book of examples and exercises from the 60-80s because of lovasz, but you read Diestel's graph theory and then look at modern graph theory papers, there's still a lot of work to be done. I mean, just look at how C* algebras relate to graph theory

[Anonymous No.10589393]

>>10584169
>imagine being this retarded
Neck yourself

[Anonymous No.10589420]

>>10589393
That time of the month, newfriend?

[Anonymous No.10589474]

>>10588766

Yes, you must deny it no matter what. Even when you have absolutely no vested interest and youre on an anonymous Taiwanese jelqing forum. He's really not even an incel though. Just a Brad who peaked in highschool

[Anonymous No.10589525]

Will someone apply to that workshop to see if they reject men already?

[Anonymous No.10591593]

>>10582664
Srsly. pay more attention to your own shit. they get better you get better erryone good.

[Anonymous No.10592578]

>>10591593
This is good advice. Hectoring, manhating feminist harpies and their creepy beta orbiters are more an obstacle to be avoided than an enemy to be defeated. Better to save your energies rather than tilt at windmills... OR at giants.

[Anonymous No.10593240]

I contacted one of the organizers and got this. Is this illegal? It is certainly immoral/unethical.

[Anonymous No.10593280]

>>10593240
I can't believe all the retards ITT who thought they'd welcome males at the event. It's very obvious from the website that they don't want them there.

[Anonymous No.10593487]

>>10593240
you were not told you couldnt come. you were told the purpose. seems all above board to me.

[Anonymous No.10593533]

>>10593240

I have always had to live with whatever room mates the university randomly gave me.

I also have very few connections in the math community. The ones I do have I got from just showing up to things and trying to talk about math. It sure as hell didn't happen naturally. In fact, it was incredibly awkward. It always felt like I was crashing somebody's bar mitzvah.

I think oversocialized leftists don't understand this concept

[Anonymous No.10593705]

>>10593533
>The ones I do have I got from just showing up to things and trying to talk about math

which is what they are trying to achieve. obvs. whats wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.10593734]

>>10593533
>oversocialized leftist
guess being oversocialized means being able to socialize without being awkward lmfao

[Anonymous No.10593766]

>>10593734
well yeah the first thing these right-bots do is plough into a party and start moaning about feminism or BLM then they complain about people not getting on with them lol

[Anonymous No.10593790]

>>10586320
>Turns out people like to group with those similar to them.
I can already hear the cries of discrimination as white men group up

[Anonymous No.10593824]

>>10593487
I was not given an answer as to whether I'm allowed (my first question). It was made clear that I am encouraged not to attend (my second question).

>>10593533
It's because they judge people based on their group identity rather than as individuals

>>10593705
They encourage him not to attend based on his sex

[Anonymous No.10593843]

>>10593824
Are you gonna ask again?

[Anonymous No.10593867]

>>10582669
>>10582674
all newfags should be lined up and shot

[Anonymous No.10593878]

>>10582669
>>10582674
It's seems there's an unusual amount of newfags, something happening on an other board?

[Anonymous No.10593897]

>>10593843
I did. I'll keep you posted. The other two have not responded.

[Anonymous No.10593910]

>>10593824
she was politely implying that the answer is no you autist

[Anonymous No.10593913]

>>10593240
>>10593280
>>10593487
She never outrite said you were banned moron. Again she is a women who wants to meet other women interested in graph theory and help them out. You can come, but you are not the primarily desired audience and their are only a limited number of seats.

[Anonymous No.10593916]

>>10582664
Okay cool, apply to any of the hundreds of graph theory workshops where men are implicitly allowed to go to.

[Anonymous No.10593924]

>>10593897
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10593941]

>>10582664
become trans-gender

[Anonymous No.10593942]

>>10593910
I know that but she should say it directly.

>>10593913
Obviously she didn't say it outright. I never implied that she did. I actually complained that she didn't. You are the moron for thinking that I thought she did. Anyway, denying someone based on their sex is unethical and possibly illegal at a public university. On and you might want to learn the difference between there and their before calling others names.

[Anonymous No.10593954]

>>10593942
oh you want her to say it directly so you can sue them?

if you're in the US it's almost certainly legal, and idk about ethical but it's not like men are being hurt by it, it exists because the field is mostly men

[Anonymous No.10593978]

>>10582664
>No males aloud
What's the problem? Just try to be quieter

[Anonymous No.10593994]

>>10593954
i'm not going to sue them but they would deserve it. i'm pretty sure it's illegal but i'd have to do some research on it. it is absolutely unethical and your claim that men are not being hurt by it is unsubstantiated. it's very easy to see how a man could be hurt by it

[Anonymous No.10594044]

>>10593994
enlighten me, how could a man be hurt by it

[Anonymous No.10594048]

>>10582664
Will Science survive Cultural Marxism?

[Anonymous No.10594053]

>>10594044
because he is denied the opportunity of benefiting from the event. and this denial is based simply on his sex. and the event is funded using his tuition and taxes

[Anonymous No.10594058]

Seriously, women should not be allowed on science.

[Anonymous No.10594059]

>>10594048
no it will not, if you're a smart scientist you'll follow traditional judeo-christian values

[Anonymous No.10594067]

>>10594059
I hate both Judeo-Christian values and Leftism, what do I do?

[Anonymous No.10594073]

>>10594053
while it's true that he can't benefit, if he were allowed to participate, as in if it was a regular event, then it would be mostly men as usual and the women would no longer receive the intended benefits of social networking and potential roommates as she said in the email. so both can't exist, and I'd argue that your loss is less because similar workshops are probably available
the fact that your tuition is being used is harder to argue with but if it's under the umbrella of the university then there's nowhere else for it to come from other than donations or fundraising. if we're gonna have that conversation there are probably 1000 worse things the university is blowing money on

[Anonymous No.10594074]

>>10593705
>>10593916

My point is that there aren't many accessible events like these. I pay attention to the mathematics events advertised on campus and I find that I am not even qualified enough to apply to any of them, even when I'm confident that I have exactly the right background.

[Anonymous No.10594076]

>>10594067
obviously you read the bible and accept Jesus into your heart, what else?

[Anonymous No.10594086]

>>10594073
>while it's true that he can't benefit
yes. so i was correct

>if he were allowed to participate, as in if it was a regular event, then it would be mostly men as usual
probably not if the event was still marketed as a "women's" event

>the women would no longer receive the intended benefits of social networking and potential roommates as she said in the email
yes they would. it would just include the opportunity to network with men also. the women could all still attend and network with each other.

>so both can't exist
they can have an inclusive event

>and I'd argue that your loss is less because similar workshops are probably available
you're implying they would lose out by a man attending which is not true. and the likelyhood of another graph theory workshop taking place at that university is pretty small.

>the fact that your tuition is being used is harder to argue with
its impossible to argue with

>but if it's under the umbrella of the university then there's nowhere else for it to come from other than donations or fundraising. if we're gonna have that conversation there are probably 1000 worse things the university is blowing money on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

[Anonymous No.10594094]

>>10594086
>>10594073
>but if it's under the umbrella of the university then there's nowhere else for it to come from other than donations or fundraising.
oh and you're ignoring that this is a state uni which means its subsidized by taxes and probably illegal to discriminate based on sex for anything other than a few exceptions like sports programs

[Anonymous No.10594371]

>>10593924
what a fucking unethical disgrace. what should be next response be? i'm thinking of saying that i plan to attend since i identify as female but that i look like a cis man. or maybe i'll say that i choose not to disclose my gender identity

[Anonymous No.10594373]

>>10594371
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.10594379]

>>10582664
I am for freedom of association.
I don't want to associate with niggers, kikes and cunts.

[Anonymous No.10594388]

>Women in Graph Theory
How do you check if there's a woman in your graph? Is there a way to use mathematical concepts to determine the age and gender of the women in your graph? Is it possible for a transgender woman to be in a graph? These are the questions that Women in Graph theory strives to answer

[Anonymous No.10594399]

>>10582664
We can extrapolate on previous events and consider the fact that we may have entire institutions entirely dedicated to women, which are better funded than current institutions of the same sort.

[Anonymous No.10594412]

>>10582664
Gotta love this forced approach. Why can't we disregard gender for once and work together for society's progression?

[Anonymous No.10594434]

>>10594412
>for society's progression
Because that doesn't exist and likely never has.

[Anonymous No.10594853]

>>10594373
Ask if transgender women can come and say that is what you meant. Say you are sorry for needing to ask again as she is probably busy.
>t. master manipulator

[Anonymous No.10594863]

>>10594853
i'll send a reply tomorrow. i'm going to say that i identify as female but appear to be a cis man and that im concerned that i'll be rejected from the event because of this. i'll also say that i have a friend that does not wish to reveal "their" gender identity who is interested in attending (if they dont reveal, will the event make that judgement for them and turn them away?)

>Say you are sorry for needing to ask again as she is probably busy.
for sure

[Anonymous No.10594870]

>>10582664
>letting woman have free roam
>letting women into power
Our ancestors are laughing at us.

[Anonymous No.10594872]

>>10594863
This thread will probably get before deleted. Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.10594873]

>>10582664
DAGS(For her/she/they)

[Anonymous No.10594877]

>>10593916
>implicitly allowed
Women are implicitly allowed to attend any other as well. The fact that you can't see the hypocrisy in this is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10594880]

>>10582664
Implicitly not welcome!

[Anonymous No.10594885]

Still better than having some chuckle fuck commie prof walk into class with a ''fight the power'' poster in my first year which featured a nigger making a clenched fist and had a sidenote of ''marxism festival'' written on it. I think I actually still have a pic of it.

But nah the social justice bullshit is not the feature I hate the most of university. It's bullshit profs who made exams that featured shit that was nowhere in the book or the shitty powerpoint slides but was some calculation, proof or just a regular thing the prof said during a lecture. Also the amount of lectures that were insufferable to even go to so you'd skip them since the prof was just reading powerpoint slides.

>>10594388
Something like all the C for chad nodes having strong ties with a girl while there is no connection or a weak connection with the B beta male nodes.

[Anonymous No.10594918]

>>10582664
You are and are not welcome to be here. If you have any questions or concerns about our policy, youre racist.

[Anonymous No.10594924]

>>10594918
>You are and are not welcome to be here. If you have any questions or concerns about our policy, we will answer them in the most indirect way possible so that you have to ask multiple follow up questions to get any clarification.

[Anonymous No.10594938]

>>10582664
>aloud
STEM intellect

[Anonymous No.10594942]

>>10594924
I acknowledge and respect both your misdirection and your insincerity.

*clears throat*

I hate women and niggers and woman niggers.

[Anonymous No.10594993]

>>10584163
>broad topic
I know it was unintentional, but I chuckled.

[Anonymous No.10595066]

>>10594073
Now use this "logic" to defend
* The Workshop for Asians in Group Theory
* The Workshop for Christians in PDEs
* The Workshop for Aryans in CS Theory
Or make a fool of yourself trying to explain the relevant "differences"

[Anonymous No.10595657]

>>10594373

> lesniak

[Anonymous No.10595662]

>>10594938
Stemlets are notoriously illiterate and can't spell

[Anonymous No.10595668]

>>10593867
>>10593878
samefag

[Anonymous No.10595670]

>>10586451
How is that a strawman?

[Anonymous No.10595693]

Why is it important for women to meet women in mathematics? mathematics is genderless.

This is degrading mathematics and inserting gender studies politics where it shouldn't be.

The purpose of a conference/workshop is to exchange mathematical ideas, it makes no difference whatsoever whether someone is male or female.

[Anonymous No.10595698]

>>10595693
t rapist

[Anonymous No.10595706]

>>10595698
I can't even tell if this is ironic or not.

[Anonymous No.10595796]

>>10595693
This is gonna be a long post, probably in multiple parts. Mathematics is not an entity without politics. As much as the “study” of math is genderless, the actual institutions dedicated to the study of math are run in human systems, so they’re subjected to relevant biases.

The way I see it, this really doesn’t hurt people. People on 4chan will get riled up because of false equivalence, but you also can’t win with them. Take anything related to gaming:
In the early 2010s people complained about feminist advocates asking for change in conventional, well selling games. This is the associated pushback to any social movement. They were then told to make their own games if they wanted it so bad. But then they actually did make their own games, like A Night in the Woods, etc., and there’s still people saying “ew, why are they making games I don’t like?”

Such criticism is not in good faith. The simple answer is that these people have decided they oppose the movement and will flip flop on conditionals, goals, and stances to be on top. So in some sense, I get the feeling that arguing against someone like >>10595066 will produce the same results. Regardless, I’ll try and do so briefly in the next post

[Anonymous No.10595811]

>>10595066
First:
The thesis of feminist advocate groups (and special interest groups in general) is that the current institutions are sufficient for a subset of the interested population, but that the rest don’t have sufficient resources / equal footing and opportunity to compete. So they make a group to advocate for these people, in conjunction with existing groups. What you end up getting is attention for more groups across the board, not “selective services.” The Society for Women Engineers doesn’t turn men away even though they are an interest group for women, they stand alongside most engineering clubs, and they spur general interest from the public, which keeps funding high and produces an immediate resource for the public to become the in group

So all they do is introduce opportunities for the groups they’re interested in. They aren’t taking up resources; they’re creating them

[Anonymous No.10595830]

>>10595066
On racial issues:
Minority groups have long since advocated for themselves in other fields, which usually come down to cultural clubs. This women’s workshop/club, even in scale, is different. It’s there as a way to organize a group of interested individuals from a group that has either not been interested or feel like their interest yields little to nothing. Asians have representation in academia and clubs. Christians have not had anything holding them back systematically in academia. “Aryan” is rooted in racial supremacist ideology, but people who could be considered “Aryan” are those who have resources and conventional advocacy from the existing clubs/institutions.

There’s this great piece by Martin Farach Colton (famous algorithmicist) about how as a gay man, he’s never felt any discrimination from mathematician and algorithms theorists, since TCS icons are almost all gay (Turing, Kolmogorov), but the women he knows in the field generally go through way more undue scrutiny from their peers and are subject to way more skepticism towards legitimate work.
https://lucatrevisan.wordpress.com/2012/07/10/turing-centennial-post-5-martin-farach-colton/

[Anonymous No.10595842]

tl;dr
Most schools have discrete math and graph theory clubs
The existence of a special interest workshop for an underrepresented group that historically did not have social, monetary, and cultural support doesn’t take up existing spots; they work to create new ones
The conventional clubs and institutions generally cover you otherwise
I don’t know why I’m arguing this at length; nobody here argues past the basic talking points against feminism that have long since had answers

tl;dr for tl;dr
Intersectionality

[Anonymous No.10595868]

>>10595796
Step 1. Poison the well
>>10595811
Step 2. Gaslight
>>10595830
Step 3. Establish pecking order
>>10595842
Step 4. Repeat

[Anonymous No.10595884]

>>10587297
nice larp

[Anonymous No.10596804]

>>10595796
it does hurt people. i already explained why. read the thread

>>10595842
again, read the thread. it does take up existing spots/funding for events which is limited. there is not going to be a "conventional" graph theory workshop at this university. this is the only one
>I don’t know why I’m arguing this at length; nobody here argues past the basic talking points against feminism that have long since had answers
read the fucking thread you pompous fuck

[Anonymous No.10597253]

>>10595693
>mathematics is genderless.
Um, no, sweaty.

[Anonymous No.10597461]

>>10582664
>UofM
Go back to making new apple varieties and fuck off Somali fuckers

[Anonymous No.10597928]

bump in solidarity with my black and brown brothers and sisters

[Anonymous No.10597952]

>>10582664
I was going to make a joke about your school, but then I realized that every college has this same shit.

(((They))) control everything at this point.

[Anonymous No.10598389]

>>10582805
you can sue them for sexual discrimination, which is exactly what this is.

[Anonymous No.10598451]

>>10598389

Yeah sure I could sue them without knowing anything about the law and probably risking my reputation

[Anonymous No.10598496]

>>10598451
>I'm not sticking MY neck out for the sake of truth and justice

[Anonymous No.10599159]

>>10594885
>Still better than having some chuckle fuck commie prof walk into class with a ''fight the power'' poster in my first year which featured a nigger making a clenched fist and had a sidenote of ''marxism festival'' written on it. I think I actually still have a pic of it.

Is this an American thing? I'm a leaf and I never had anything like this happen, although I only took STEM courses.

[Anonymous No.10599800]

>>10599159
I grew up going to Florida public school and a Florida public university. 90% of the time to teacher or professor got into their political opinions it was a conservative.

[Anonymous No.10599811]

>>10582664
>WIGGA