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1057253 No.1057253 [Reply] [Original]

Gentlemen. Meet the Mandelbulb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO5fXGqeM5c

my question is: Does it have infinite surface area?

>> No.1057254

fuck off back to #math

>> No.1057273

Yes.

>> No.1057306

>>1057254
where is this ... #math ... you speak of?

>>1057273
I was just talking to a math teacher and they said it would have a finite surface area

>> No.1057331

What in the fuck is this monstrosity?

>> No.1057349

hooooooooooooooly shit this is pretty fucking sweet.

Yeah, it has infinite surface area.

>> No.1057353

What is the purpose of this?

I mean what purpose does the Mandelbrot set have in math?

>> No.1057362

>>1057353
It makes people interested in math.

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>>1057353
>purpose

but seriously, something to look at while stoned

>> No.1057395

>>1057376
lol yeah, but Mandelbrot and other fractal patterns are also of interest in biology. It shows up in life in surprising ways, and could have uses in things like medicine and in computer architecture.

>> No.1057404

out

>> No.1057411

>>1057395
computer architecture

like how?

>> No.1057430

>>1057411
Trolled.

A mandelbulb is 5cm by 5cm by 5cm. It has infinite surface area.

>> No.1057446

>>1057411
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal#Applications

Shit is beyond me, but it's pretty cool nevertheless.

>> No.1057456

>>1057446
>T-Shirts

what

>> No.1057459

I used to be able to see fuzzy things of images like this if i closed my eyes and firmly pressed my closed hand against them.

>> No.1057462

http://sourceforge.net/projects/mandelbulber/

DIY

>> No.1057494

if i were high right now i'd be shitting myself

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>>1057430

>> No.1057521

>>1057494
I know right? an HD DVD of this stuff for stoners
some anon on sci could make money

>> No.1057573

The mendelblot has a finite area and perimeter, it converges to a number despite having infinitely many details, so as to why there are people saying that the surface area of the mendelbulb is infinite without proof is beyond me...

Reference: Flaterland, don't remember the author.

>> No.1057605

eat hallucinogens -> watch mandelbrot renders for 8 hours

feels good man

>> No.1057642

>>1057573
what does it take to prove it?

>> No.1057652

>>1057642
A course in mathematical logic XD

>> No.1057667

holy shit this is awesome
is this a 3d fractal ?

>> No.1057696

>>1057573
The Mandelbrot set has a finite area, yes, but I'm pretty sure its perimeter is of infinite length.

(Indeed, there is some empirical evidence implying that the perimeter of the Mandelbrot set has a nonzero *area*.)

>> No.1057700

>>1057253

If it had infinite surface area, anything but not moving would have infinite friction, so it could not grow.

>> No.1057710

>>1057700
This is utter nonsense.

I have no idea what the hell you *meant* to say, but I'm pretty sure that's nonsense too.

>> No.1057724

>>1057696
google seems to suggest you are right, disregard me, i suck cocks.

>> No.1057734

>>1057700
>implying it could exist in nature
fractals approximate things in nature well, though (or, rather nature approximates fractals)

>> No.1057745

>>1057710

Let me put it in more simple terms.

If plant have infinite surface area,
then any movement of the plant would cause infinite friction to occur.
If infinite friction occurs, then the object cannot move.

>> No.1057803

>>1057745
Once again, fractals are mathematic constructs. This is not a plant. It may look like a plant, but it's a computer generated image. A plant could never have infinite detail (barring the possibility of the fractal nature of spacetime, but then friction ceases to matter, as does the plant at those tiny scales), and therefore we would not be having this discussion.

>> No.1057809

everything has an infinite surface area, in a xeno's paradox kind of way

>> No.1057847

>>1057809
This depends on whether space is discrete or not...

>> No.1057994

>>1057847
Space is very discrete, because there is no sound in space, so it is impossible to say something rude or reveal a secret told to you in confidence

>> No.1058584

bump