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Pi is transcendental which means it has every combination of every number

One of these combinations is infinite zeros

The repeating zeros make any numbers that come "after" the infinite zeros have no value

So pi ends at the start of those infinite zeros

So pi is not transcendental

QED

>> No.10570851

>>10570839
>So pi is not transcendental
But you just said it is transcendental, which is a contradiction

>> No.10570857

>>10570839
>Pi is transcendental which means it has every combination of every number
thats not what it means

>One of these combinations is infinite zeros
no, not if you meant to say "has every finite combination"

>> No.10570865

>>10570839
Transcendental means it can't be produced algebraically, not that it has all combos.

>> No.10570870

>>10570851
>>10570857
>>10570865
cope

>> No.10570881

>>10570839
Zero isn't a number.

>> No.10570926

>>10570857
>>10570865
back to the drawing board then I guess. Not sure why we don't have more funds put into solving pi.

>> No.10570929

>>10570926
It is solved. The repeating nonsense is irrelevant so we use approximations to whatever decimal number is needed.

>> No.10570933

>>10570929
>It is solved.
No it's not. Whether or not pi is normal has yet to solved

>> No.10571059

>>10570839
>Pi is transcendental which means it has every combination of every number
This has never been proven

>> No.10571204

>>10570881
Sooo, I had a hangover and decided to talk to my friend regarding the concept of zero yesterday, here's what I said:

"If 0 is how we quantify the absence or loss of something, then who's to say that the number zero should be used as a number to quantify at all? I mean, I don't think you can quantify something that literally does not exist. If we consider zero to be complete absence of something at a specific moment in time, then who's to say that zero isn't actually just the place-holder for actual quantities, as in, the prerequisite for real numbers?
It almost reminds me of some Aristotle quote in regards to life and death, I think it went like "When I am, death is not, and when death is, I am not. If death occurs when I am not, then why should I fear death?"
the reason it reminds me of that, is because the moment that ANYTHING exists, zero is not. The moment that EVERYTHING ceases, numbers cease and are reduced to their prerequisite, zero. I guess it relates to consciousness as well because there are, as far as I can tell, only two states of consciousness, unconsciousness, and consciousness.
I guess if we're talking real quantities in terms of matter, you could technically say that "zero" or "nothing" can't exist, because as far as we know, there is a finite amount of matter in the universe, and this matter cannot be destroyed, and new matter can't be created. All it can ever do is change forms, and I guess that what that means on the macro/universal scale, is that the matter is the finite number of possible quantities available, and the empty space (aka nothingness, or Zero), is just a prerequisite space that the finite amount of matter is allowed to exist in.
So tldr
I guess the way that people quantify zero as in "aw shit I lost my cock, now I have zero cocks!" is kind of egotistical, because in the grand scale of things, that cock matter still exists somewhere. "

Is my perception of zero wrong here, or do I need to try again?

>> No.10572068

>>10571204
zero is an arithmetic and algebraic quantity because it can be the result of arithmetic and algebraic operations on other arithmetic and algebraic quantities. The meaning of numbers depends on the context of the interpretation

>> No.10572081

>>10570839
>Pi is transcendental which means it has every combination of every number
> One of these combinations is infinite zeros
Just because PI is transcendental doesn't mean it has a sequenced of digits with infinite zeros you goof.

>> No.10572087

>>10571204
Woaaah dude. That's like soooo deep bro.

>> No.10572222

>>10570933
>pi is normal
even if it was, that would only mean all *finite* strings of digits appear.

>> No.10572227

>>10570839
The cup isn't see-through so the people wouldn't know when they could talk and gain your attention

>> No.10572243

>>10570839
transcendental does not mean has every combination of numbers. A simple counterexample is the liouville constant, which is transcendental and consists only of 1's and 0's.

Even if it did mean that, it would not imply that there are an "infinite" number of 0s.

So your entire proof is nonsense, QED.

>> No.10572260

>>10570870
LE EPIC COPE MAYMAY XDDDD!

>> No.10573055

>>10572087
fug you, I'm trying
>>10572068
Good point. I guess the context of the interpretation was in the real, physical world, not algebra/arithmetic.