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Are 99% of PHDs pointless outside of advancing the researchers career?

>> No.10564890

"witty response that sets tone for thread"

>> No.10564891

>>10564890
which

>> No.10564894

*outrageous statement meant to incite anger in reader*

>> No.10564898

"witty response which sets tone for thread"

>> No.10564899

>>10564894
>>10564890
>>10564891
*hands over PHD* very good

>> No.10564907

No.
You read about their failures more because a PhD is more impressive.
For ever 1 PhD who isn't successful, there are 5 undergrads who couldn't find a job after school. If they wait too long, they can't even go back to school. At least the unemployed PhD has respect. Unemployed undergrad gets nothing. A PhD isn't a sunk cost. If you can't make it with a PhD, you certainly wouldn't have made it with undergrad alone.

>> No.10564915

>>10564907
I meant in the grand scheme of things, not in terms of employment

>> No.10564927

>>10564894
*falls for the obvious bait*

>> No.10564955

>>10564890
fpbp

>> No.10564958

>>10564927
*Comment with political undertones, provoking response from visiting plebbitors or the ironic equivalent from frequenters*

>> No.10564965

>>10564958
>>>/pol/

>> No.10564971

>>10564927
*theorizes that this poster is a mere seasonal visitor*

>> No.10565018
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10565018

A PhD is not the best choice unless you want to

>a.) do research *for someone else* (either for a university, an institution, a company etc.)

or

>b.) bragging rights

or

>c.) Networking

or

>d.) you just really want to do a PhD


I made an app during my math undergrad which made me some money. Used that money to make more software, which made me more money. Now I'm comfortably pulling in $300k-$350k per month from my software and other investments (real estate, stocks etc.), and it's pretty much all passive (the software makes like 90% of that money though). Never went beyond undergrad. Am currently 24.

I spend most of my time just doing math, working on whatever I'm interested in, without having to deal with anyone and their fucking bullshit (no office politics, no sucking some idiot's dick for grants and funds, no TA'ing or any other fucking running around).

And then there's you guys, slaving away for 80 hrs a week as a postdoc at age 32 for $33k/year.

Today I woke up at 10, did some math until around 2, went to the gym, longboarded to the beach and smoked a jay, went home and did some more math, and now I'm just gonna pass out high to trailerpark boys in my comfy 8000 sqft luxury-but-not-overly-so house.


So how would you rather live your life? What's important to you?

>> No.10565024

>>10565018
What kind of apps do you make?

>> No.10565028

>>10564894
>>10564927
>>10564958
*Anon points out that a group of comments is merely a psychopath arguing with themselves*

>> No.10565031

>>10565018
This reads like a pyramid scheme schtick.

>> No.10565032

>>10565018
as someone with no experience with coding, how do I get to your point?

>> No.10565041

>>10565018
Ya, let me just make the decision to create an app that makes me 300k a month. Ez.

>> No.10565058

>>10565024
If by apps you mean phone apps (which I assume you do), then I don't make them anymore. The apps were just the starting point that gave me a little momentum; I've made my "real money" creating sophisticated software in the realm of big data. I earn money by licensing this software.

>>10565031
what am I selling? lol

>>10565032
Just pick a project and figure it out. For me, the first thing I did was I created an instagram clone because it seemed interesting and I wanted to learn how to make a social media app. I just watched tons of youtube videos on programming, and of course I had some experience with python from my undergrad. But yeah you gotta work hard at it, like at least a few hours a day, every day, to get good in a reasonably short amount of time.

>>10565041
That's not how you do it. I should've been more clear that the apps were just the starting point. Here's what you do:
>figure out something that can make you $1000 / month
>use that money to figure out something else that can make you $5000 / month
At this point you can probably quit your job once you've saved up enough money to last you a year. Then, you just keep shooting for new targets. You don't go from 0 to $300k / month. There's like 20 steps inbetween.

>> No.10565063

>>10565058
I'm too retarded for step one, never mind step 20.

>> No.10565064

>>10565058
How do you license software you've created. Ive had good ideas for apps for scientists but I don't know how to make money from it

>> No.10565075

>>10565063
Learn programming/discreet math. You can do it anon!

>> No.10565080

>>10565058
Do you have a discord. Just find it super hard to believe 300K per month

>> No.10565095

>>10565058
I have no experience with this whatsoever. Could you give an example of something that might be in the field of software you're talking about (I understand giving an example of your own is iffy)?

>> No.10565107

>>10565058
>>10565080
mine is nitbean#5899
Just have some various questions / things to verify.

>> No.10565128

>>10564907
>If you can't make it with a PhD, you certainly wouldn't have made it with undergrad alone.
*couches a comment about poor logic in speculation that the quoted poster is a life-long stranger to female companionship*

>> No.10565374

>>10565018
I'd rather live life but come on now, are you trying to say you're of normal ability and just made some good decisions? I find it very unlikely that if this is all true, that you're not top .000001% intelligence anyway and so this is not usable advice for most others, even on here

>> No.10565382

>>10565058
also, how much math is needed for what you do. you said you did math on your comfy day, are you some kind of Will Hunting type who could have gone off as a quant on Wall Street if you'd wished? Or is it normal run of the mill undergrad CS level math

>> No.10565406

>>10565058
*reads and sneers smugly and dismissively at pathetic capitalist whilst being secretly impressed and wondering if I could do the same then quickly hits Back arrow to return to cprf.ru mainpage when comrade roommate walks into room*

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>>10565058
Don’t take this seriously. At least the app development part. I have experience making iOS apps. I still make 200$ a month off them. You’re competing with poos and the barrier to entry is so low that the market is oversaturated. Sure poos make bad software usually, but a few of them are good and 200$ a month to them is better than the average monthly salary. If you’re smart I would look into different areas of software development. Specifically tools to make cloud software development easier or something where you can compete with less autists/poos.

Also developing good software is not something you do on a whim. It takes many years learning all the proper techniques, optimizations, and algorithms to make robust software.

>> No.10565483

>>10565018
whoooooooo? shes perfect

>> No.10565488

>>10565483
maybe not, if she dresses like that

>> No.10565496

>>10565483
She's 14 you fat lard pedo.

>> No.10565497

>>10565488
just give me her fucking name, shes looks hot af in that tight outfit but yes if i had her i'll whip her and stuff her into a skirt

>> No.10565508

>>10565497
>>10565497
>give me her fucking name
check meatspin.fr
you're fucking welcome

>> No.10565534

I WANT HER NAME

>> No.10566059

>>10564958

*Even more edgy, provocative comment, with an implicit attempt to make the thread about racial IQ statistics and eugenics*

>> No.10566060

>>10565483
Stay away from my women, ahmed

>> No.10567606

>>10565534
Sam Hyde

>> No.10567645

>>10565128
I do speculate that he desires female companionship which is not forthcoming.

>> No.10567661

>>10565128
I just want three warm meals a day, that's all.
I made the mistake of not going for a PhD and paid the price for it. When I said no respect, I meant employers and family, not women.

>> No.10567672

the reason for a PHD should always be "for the glory" and if it's not then you should drop out and become like big-data-app-fag. It's about being the best in an elite circle of people.

>> No.10567743

>>10567672
You may not like it, but this is based and redpilled.