Pair bonding in humans

[Anonymous No.10541690]

What do we know?

[Anonymous No.10541772]

Women developed tits so that face to face sex happened more often which made pair bonding easier.

[Anonymous No.10541782]

>>10541690
>What do we know?
modern society is trying to destroy it because discrimination of any kind, including having preference for a single person over anyone else, is fascist.

[Anonymous No.10541796]

>>10541772
kek

[Anonymous No.10541823]

>>10541690
She cute

[Anonymous No.10541844]

>>10541690
She should clean that shit up and stop taking selfies at work

[Anonymous No.10541891]

I pair bonded with your mom.

[Anonymous No.10541920]

>>10541772
Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.10541921]

>>10541891
goteem

[Anonymous No.10541969]

>>10541690

[Anonymous No.10542002]

>>10541969
tfw not a desperate incel like this anon

[Anonymous No.10542017]

>>10541690
pair bonding with doggu is better than those filthy parasites

[Anonymous No.10542056]

>>10541844
>oops! teehee!
>anon will you help me clean here? I have to wash up...

[Anonymous No.10542075]

>>10541772

When men started to walk on two feet instead of four DAT ASS was no longer on the height of their sight so tits were made to imitate the shape of buttocks.

[Anonymous No.10542093]

>>10542056
>S-sure! Let m-me call someone...

[Anonymous No.10542095]

>>10541690
Idk but I can tell you a whole lot about pair bonding in monogamous prairie voles because that's what I'm working on for my thesis right now.

[Anonymous No.10542102]

>>10542075
You got that from an anime

[Anonymous No.10542112]

>>10542075
Nice

[Anonymous No.10542345]

>>10542075

[Anonymous No.10542369]

>>10541690
Pro Tip: "Male" and "Female" biological underpinnings have existed far longer than human beings.

In biological/physical/material terms, they are energetic roles (i.e. providing seed and nurturing seed into growth).

It's wholesome. The universe made it. Men and Women should be nice to each other.

[Anonymous No.10542417]

>>10542369
>It's wholesome. The universe made it. Men and Women should be nice to each other.
>t. Incel

[Anonymous No.10542434]

>>10541690
Oxytocin is the primary 'pair-bonding' hormone, released during orgasm for men and orgasm/childbirth for women.

[Anonymous No.10542443]

>>10542434
Where can I buy some Oxycontin in a spray bottle? Asking for a friend.

[Anonymous No.10542552]

>>10541844
>selfie
>is clearly not a selfie
What did anon mean by this

[Anonymous No.10542562]

>>10542102
And you know that he got that from an anime.

[Anonymous No.10542584]

Nothing. Sociobiology is pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.10543078]

>>10542095
well??? im dying to know anon

[Anonymous No.10543148]

>>10542095
>>10543078
I'm interested as well. I'm in a different field but I've always liked biology related subjects.

[Anonymous No.10543200]

>>10542095
Tell us more anon.

[Anonymous No.10543211]

>>10542562
And you know he knows and I know know and you know I know that you know

[Anonymous No.10543248]

>>10542434
akchtually. newer research point to endogenous opioids as the most prominent drivers of mother-child bonding.

[Anonymous No.10543295]

>>10542369
Never let others kill your joy of things anon, have a blessed day.

[Anonymous No.10543523]

>>10542095
TELL US MORE GODDAMNIT

[Anonymous No.10543563]

>>10542056
>b-before tyrone comes back!

[Anonymous No.10543719]

>>10541690
Yellowed

[Anonymous No.10543720]

>>10542095
What are the principles of monogamy that seem to be consistent throughout mammals and what have you observed in your voles? Do you start to develop an intuitive understanding of their behavior?

[Anonymous No.10543768]

>>10541690
This girls is cute and works in michael’s so I want her to be my girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.10543787]

>>10541690
>>10543768
>a home depot coat
Well it looks like michaels...

[Anonymous No.10543794]

>>10543768
Funny, she's cute so I want her to be my girlfriend too

[Anonymous No.10543831]

>>10543768
>>10543794
I don't find her wantonly attractive nor do I care that she works at michael's but she seems to be valued among you lot so I would also like her as a gf

[Anonymous No.10543848]

>>10543794
>>10543831
Idiots I’m 19 she’s probably around the same age as me it wouldn’t even work for you zoomers

[Anonymous No.10543856]

>>10541690
That picture reminds me of my days working in the paint department at Menards.

[Anonymous No.10543864]

>>10541844
Is she holding the phone via telepathy?

[Anonymous No.10543928]

>>10543864
She’s my girlfriend she can do whatever she wants.

[Anonymous No.10543942]

>>10543928
even fuck other guys?

[Anonymous No.10543947]

>>10543864
you mean you can't? Can't stand it when you regs shit up my board.

[Anonymous No.10543957]

>>10543248
lol women have to drug themselves to care

[Anonymous No.10543958]

>>10543928
based

[Anonymous No.10543966]

>>10543942
No obviously not that!

[Anonymous No.10543972]

Why is your jizz yellow OP you should see a doctor

[Anonymous No.10544008]

>>10543211
And now I know that's from anime

[Anonymous No.10545913]

>>10543078
>>10543148
>>10543200
>>10543523
>>10543720
Pic related are the adorable prairie voles. They're considered monogomous because they tend to form a life-long preference for a partner after mating and spending some time together afterwards. In my lab we study the mechanism behind this bonding and use them as a model for social behavior in behavioral tests because they're much more social/affiliative than mice or rats. I would say more but this is a small field and I want to stay anon.

What I'm interested in is how the opioid system plays a role in these bonds. Basically, you can give them morphine or another mu-opioid agonist and cohabitate them and they'll still form the monogamous bond without mating. You can also give them naloxone, an opiate antagonist (blocker), before mating and cohabitating and they'll fail to form the bond. Therefore it appears that endogenous (released in brain) opioid release plays an essential role in forming these bonds. I'm exploring this further and right now I'm in the middle of seeing whether such an opiate antagonist could abolish existing bonds.

This is pretty interesting to me because I'm a recovering heroin addict who stays sober by taking a shit-load of a long-lasting opiate antagonist to avoid relapse and cravings (literally can't get high no matter how hard you try when you take the pill, gonna try to get the 30-day shot soon). This research shows how your opioid system probably has a really important impact on basic human connections and how we feel about people (including possibly your SO which is a bit crazy). It's also been shown that opiate-antagonists decrease feelings of connection with others which I think should be considered because healthy human connections are essential to recovery from addiction. Maybe by understanding this mechanism we can better understand and account for that (but that's p lofty and deluded and I'm aware of that, I just need to write my honors thesis).

[Anonymous No.10545940]

>>10542434
>>10543248
You're actually both right and they're both essential for pair-bonding (in my animal model at least)

[Anonymous No.10546003]

>>10545940
the study im referring (im the opioid anon) was on human women. there was a large sample and they registered which receptors in the brain changed the most during and after pregnancy, they found the oxytocin to be of lesser impact than previously though and the endorphins role was striking, which kinda makes sense if we consider the pain of motherhood... well it’s suatained by more sensitivity to endo opioid

[Anonymous No.10546012]

>>10546003
This is pretty interesting I actually plan on falling back on looking at neonatal opiate withdrawal in these voles for this very reason if the antagonist stuff doesn’t work out.

[Anonymous No.10546015]

>>10545913
That's some great research, keep it up and drop the heroin, you're smart.

[Anonymous No.10546035]

>>10544008
And I know anime

[Anonymous No.10546036]

>>10546015
That means a lot anon thank you, I thought you guys were gonna shit all over me.

[Anonymous No.10546044]

>>10546012
sorry for your addiction. i became interested in endo opioids and neurotransmitters in general because during a sever depression i had persistent sensation of pain in my body, i don’t have a receipt but something that helped me A LOT was taking care of some cats, especially a cat that was abandoned near my house at the time + spending time in the woods. now i’ve been mostly good for 2/3 years expect a bad few months induced by drugs (speed + weed) and consequent withdrawals. well weeks ago i was in a forest, it’s still winter so no leaves, all naked branches and at some point i arrived in a place where small violet flowers had bloomed on the ground. it was psychedelic. i felt intense shivers and i started crying from the grace. i returned home walking as if i was riding a marshmallow cloud. i hope my ramblings can make sense.

[Anonymous No.10546366]

>>10545913
Very interesting stuff. Best of luck to you anon.

[Anonymous No.10546819]

>>10546044
I understand anon, substances got me interested in neuropharmacology and I’d ironically spend hours high on meth reading about toxicity mechanisms of such trying to mitigate them while high on tar and clear lel

[Anonymous No.10547009]

>>10546044
Also, have you looked into low dose naltrexone? If not read up on picked about it. You’d find it interesting if you’re into endogenous opioids and it might even be worth trying for you.

[Anonymous No.10549102]

Bump

[Anonymous No.10549105]

>wanting to marry in 2019

yikes. enjoy losing everything.

[Anonymous No.10549802]

>>10549105
>wanting in 2019

yikes. enjoy suffering

[Anonymous No.10549809]

>>10541844
>selfie
both hands in clear view

[Anonymous No.10549811]

>>10542017
based Good Guy Greg

[Anonymous No.10549819]

>>10541772
>>10542075
I WANT TO BELIEVE

[Anonymous No.10549835]

>>10545913
This reminds me of that one dude who did a study on drug addiction, with lab rats(?), and found that it was more related to the lack of relationship rather than the drug itself. Have you looked into that at all anon?

[Anonymous No.10549851]

>>10542075
Based

[Anonymous No.10550798]

>>10549835
Yep I plan in doing similar types of stuff with these voles because they’re a better social model. Might look into the role of a partner on self admin soon

[Anonymous No.10551436]

>>10541690
Some chick acquaintance threw herself at me, we fucked twice. For the next 2 weeks I couldn't stop thinking about her, but my rational mind knew it wouldn't be a good thing.

It's hard to not become enamoured with a chick that you fuck.

[Anonymous No.10552318]

Vole poster here
Just got wait-listed for another grant and scored below average on a majority of the application sections but your kind words are keeping me going. Thank you /sci/

[Anonymous No.10552344]

>>10545913
>the guys field of research is getting furry fuckers high and seeing what happens while being a recovering drug addict

[Anonymous No.10552360]

>>10552344
is it really so wrong

[Anonymous No.10552413]

>>10543864
>telepathy
Telekinesis moron.

[Anonymous No.10553169]

>>10545913
>tfw putting down adorable empathetic rodents en masse

[Anonymous No.10553192]

>>10542002
So you're a different type of desperate incel?

[Anonymous No.10553223]

>>10541690
If you're tall women are more likely to accept you inspite of your flaws and stick with you longer before she cheats.

If you're rich you can get any girl you want even if you're old/ugly, but she will never love you.

Women are more paranoid when it comes to casual hook ups, but they also don't take relationships as seriously as men do.

There are the only three things you need to know.

[Anonymous No.10553290]

>>10545913
Brainlet here. Do you think this behaviour can be replicated in humans? So if you shoot up a chick with morphine and cohabitate then she'll form a monogamous bond with you? Definitely not saying I'd do that or anything hahaha

[Anonymous No.10553432]

>>10553290
No but you can form some pretty close relationships with people for no good reason because of it in my experience and even feel like you're falling in love with someone. Amphetamines can also abolish monogamous behavior which seems accurate I feel like I could fall in love with anyone I'm around on enough speed.

[Anonymous No.10553473]

>>10553290
Want my honest guess? If you tried this with a human, they'd likely end up going insane if you tried it on a long term scale. Imagine having feelings for someone you shouldn't... Because we are self-aware and intelligent, we'd begin to question WHY we have feelings for them. And when we are unable to justify said feelings, it would begin to metaphorically tear your mind apart.

Human psychology is a lot more complicated than animal psychology.

[Anonymous No.10553486]

>>10545913
This made me think about this short story:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/12/20/escape-from-spiderhead
It's quite relevant to your thesis, consider reading it, I think you'd get a kick out of it.

[Anonymous No.10553512]

Women have on average 117.8 cubic centimeters less of brain mass than men. Its quite a bit, thats why they're dumber.

[Anonymous No.10553740]

>>10541690
I swear last time I saw this photo the painting was white

[Anonymous No.10554240]

>>10553486
Wow I might send this to my PI
"“A few minutes of unpleasantness for Rachel,” Abnesti said, “years of relief for literally tens of thousands of underloving or overloving folks.”
I think this is a big part of my PI's mindset in this research.

[Anonymous No.10554257]

>>10553486
but idk it's a bit raunchy and I'm high on cocaine so maybe I'm feeling too friendly. I've said some dumb shit on the slack chat with all this ChatEase™ in me.

[Anonymous No.10554281]

>>10553486
Sorry one more post
I really like that story because I've practically experienced that drug-induced falling in and out of love over the course of a few hours and as someone in a long term relationship with someone i love dearly I find it a bit depressing, almost to the point of morbid fascination. My first year at college being surrounded by these absolutely beautiful chatty girls while I'm high on heroin and crystal meth, I'd catch feelings for completely meh girls personality wise that I resented and would usually fade in a day but sometimes could even last.

Sorry for these split up posts

[Anonymous No.10555082]

>>10543957
>t.Never took High school biology, probably a christian

[Anonymous No.10555108]

>>10541690

let waman near technical stuff

[Anonymous No.10555135]

>>10545913
So you mean to tell me if I can get a girl some opioids and stay around her while she's high off of it she'll pair bond with me?

[Anonymous No.10555165]

I am curious to Stockholm's syndrome and this opioid based pair bonding.

Also the difference between mate bonding and child bonding, no Alabama.

so much shit I wanna test but the law and ethics committee would have my ass for dinner.

[Anonymous No.10555247]

>>10543848
err what? 19 year olds are sort of at the cutoff of millenials, we could be just as well classified as zoomers too.

[Anonymous No.10555258]

>>10553169
>adorable empathetic rodents
they're fucking rats anon
they are about as adorable as your mother's snatch

[Anonymous No.10555341]

>>10553512
>that pic
I don't hate women. But I hate people grlorifying women that are in STEM.

[Anonymous No.10555563]

>>10545940
is that why I like heroin so much

[Anonymous No.10555866]

>>10555135
yea kinda probably

[Anonymous No.10556110]

>>10546035
>>10542102
>>10542562
>>10544008
Who is Annie May?

[Anonymous No.10556735]

>>10553512
https://twitter.com/thisgreyspirit/status/1116518544961830918?s=19

[Anonymous No.10556758]

>>10545913
>>10553290
>>10553473
>marry your love
>take morphine together
>love lasts forever
seems good to me!

[Anonymous No.10556764]

>>10541690
benin in vegeta

[Anonymous No.10556765]

>>10542017
imagine having a disney comprehension of mongrelized wolves

[Anonymous No.10556785]

>>10542017
artificial wombs can't come soon enough

[Anonymous No.10556788]

>>10545913
now this is /sci/ence