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10534335 No.10534335 [Reply] [Original]

When priority is hunting Blackholes, but not server security

>> No.10534338
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10534338

>>10534335
This is a joke, right?

>> No.10534356

>>10534335
holy shit, large if verifiable

>> No.10534383

>>10534335
No one would be simultaneously smart enough to steal that image and dumb enough to do it for one of the slowest boards of an Okinawan tea review site

>> No.10534385
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>>10534335
You didn't...

>> No.10534390

>>10534383
How do you think half of 4chan's most memorable moments occurred?

>> No.10534393

This requires an explanation.

>> No.10534394
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10534394

>>10534335
Real shit?

>> No.10534399

[math]ds^2 = - \left ( 1 - \frac{2Mr}{\rho^2} \right ) dt^2 - \frac{4Mar \sin^2\theta}{\rho^2} d\phi dt + \frac{\rho^2}{\Delta}dr^2 + \rho^2 d \theta^2 + \left (r^2 + a^2 + \frac{2Mra^2 \sin^2 \theta}{\rho^2} \right ) \sin^2 \theta d \phi^2[/math]

>> No.10534401
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10534401

Hmmm... I see... upon closer investigation of the pixels I thus conclude OP is a fag.

>> No.10534406
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>>10534399
Error level analysis:

File Type PNG
File Type Extension png
MIME Type image/png
PNG
Image Width 960
Image Height 866
Bit Depth 8
Color Type RGB
Compression Deflate/Inflate
Filter Adaptive
Interlace Noninterlaced
Software Adobe ImageReady
XMP
XMP Toolkit Adobe XMP Core 5.0-c060 61.134777, 2010/02/12-17:32:00
Creator Tool Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
Instance ID xmp.iid:61199EB45A5D11E9BBCEFACFC3F08EAF
Document ID xmp.did:61199EB55A5D11E9BBCEFACFC3F08EAF
Derived From Instance ID xmp.iid:61199EB25A5D11E9BBCEFACFC3F08EAF
Derived From Document ID xmp.did:61199EB35A5D11E9BBCEFACFC3F08EAF
Composite
Image Size 960x866
Megapixels 0.831

>> No.10534410

>>10534406
Filename: 1554769691391.png
Filetime: 2019-04-09 00:28:12 GMT
File Type: image/png
Dimensions: 960x866
>Color Channels: 3
File Size: 148,802 bytes
MD5: e572aa753960c4d36e0728aedb6972ea
SHA1: 8ce4f348134666d1eb8bd74d23b3325a7a9306f0
SHA256: 2c11b95cae1d46ef100a60b0d780b56f055e3acd815a6e9b2fe82289ad54dc54

i.e. NOT MONOCHROMATIC - OP is a fag

>> No.10534415

>>10534410
>Color Channels: 3
>i.e. NOT MONOCHROMATIC - OP is a fag
I don't know that's enough to reach that conclusion. Are the three channels carrying meaningfully different information, or is it just a monochrome image multiplied by a colour ?

>> No.10534421

>>10534335
>those galaxies in the background
Come on this is such an obvious photoshop, dont tell me any of you are this stupid.

>> No.10534424
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>>10534406
>>10534410
bummer

>> No.10534425
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10534425

From NASA or from those japs?

>> No.10534427

>>10534415
See this post

>>10534406
>Software Adobe ImageReady

Error level analysis looks for noise around edited areas and multiplies it to reveal the flaws... look at the image it's shooped as fuck

>> No.10534515

>>10534335
>>10534406

I dont get this thread what is going on?

>> No.10534526

>>10534515
https://www.google.com/search?q=event+horizon+telescope

>> No.10534535

>>10534526
Thanks.

>> No.10534542

>>10534383
They've been sending it all over the place since the minute they got the hard drive back. It's not a secret, they're just waiting for everyone to look at it before they release it to the public.

>> No.10534552

>>10534424
>in the distant future the omega-rich will have constructed planets and follies like this
>complete with the moon that bobs up and down through the donut hole
Could be cool.

>> No.10534576

>>10534406
>>10534410
>>10534427
>Look guys I increased the contrast and it went all weird, must be fake!

>> No.10534947
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10534947

>>10534335

>> No.10534959
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10534959

>>10534335
>mfw it's just a spot on the lens

>> No.10534970

>>10534542
>>10534335
>anon draws fake image in ms paint
>nasa has no image and has to use the fake on from 4chan

>> No.10535025

>>10534383
with 4chan all things are possible.

>> No.10535084
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10535084

https://www.quantamagazine.org/mathematicians-disprove-conjecture-made-to-save-black-holes-20180517/

>> No.10535088

>>10535084
how will physicucks ever recover?

>> No.10535104

>>10534515
OP tried to make it seem like he hacked the black hole picture people to get a preview of the black hole

>> No.10535141
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10535141

pic related

>> No.10535146

>>10534421
Just who the hell do you think we are

>> No.10535154

it's obviously fake but the actual image probably will be something disappointing like this

>> No.10535173 [DELETED] 

>>10534427
>Software Adobe ImageReady
That doesn't actually mean anything. Plenty of "real" images get exported from image-editing tools.

>> No.10535183

>>10535084
do a lot of mathematicians do research in things related to black holes and general relativity?

>> No.10535190
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10535190

>>10534427
>Software Adobe ImageReady
That doesn't actually mean anything, plenty of "real" images get exported from image-editing tools. For example, look at the metadata on this: https://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2019/04/Dust_devil_detail
>CreatorTool: Adobe Photoshop CC 2019 (Macintosh)

>> No.10535334
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10535334

Faggot OP

>> No.10535567

>>10535190
>NASA have been making everything in Photoshop this whole time

>> No.10535628

>>10534576
It's not increased contrast it's the tiny noise leftover from his shoddy image editing software.

>> No.10535780

>>10534335
Is someone going to put the conference stream up on /sci/?

>> No.10535832

>>10534335
would be insanely good

>> No.10535872

I guess the only way to know is to see if the released image is similar to this one

>> No.10535876

We'll find out tomorrow, but I call bullshit on this whole thing. I doubt it will be this disappointing.

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>>10534335
>>10534406
>>10535628
I mean, to me it just looks like somebody saved it as a jpeg at some point, there are no discrepancies in the darkness of the background

>> No.10535940

That's not what a blackhole looks like retard OP. Watch interstellar

>> No.10535945

>>10534335
Screen shotted for memes later if true.

>> No.10536024

>>10535084
>those schizos flooding the comments

>> No.10536028
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10536028

Here's what a black hole can look like in Space Engine. You can even fly into the black holes, but it will fuck with your head if you don't know what to expect. You can even run this on an average laptop and have it look beautiful.
http://spaceengine.org/

>> No.10536031
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10536031

Looks legit to me.

>> No.10536060

>>10534335
Imagine how disappointed all the normies in streams are going to be if that's it.

>> No.10536068

>>10536031
Feel free to rip apart this post by the way. I already realized it couldn't possibly be true since the "near side" I pointed out wouldn't even be the near side, it would be the side of the accretion disk revolving towards us. Looking at it that way throws all the proportions off, and the fact that you cant see the accretion disk streaking across the front in that scenario is the final nail in the coffin.

>> No.10536070
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10536070

>>10536031
Looks like I blueshifted YOUR MOM

>> No.10536105

>>10535934
i see a jew rubbing hands

>> No.10536189

>>10534335
I want to believe

>> No.10536211
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10536211

>>10535567
>not just using Space Engine

>> No.10536213

>>10534335
I wish it would look that good.

>> No.10536228

>>10534335
They are deliberately leaking it to test the reactions, to see if people buy this.

>> No.10536230

>>10536228
>to see if people buy this.
>people
>koran rice farming forum of contrarians who would go out of their way to not beleive anything

Don't overestimate .

>> No.10536237

>>10536060
It looks exactly like what I'd expect.

>> No.10536242

>>10536028
>You can even fly into the black holes
wrong
you fly to the surface of the blackhole, never below the event horizon

>> No.10536243

>>10534335
>it's actually just a picture of OP's butthole after he dipped it in ink spattered with whiteout

>> No.10536265
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>>10536070

>> No.10536388
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>>10536242
You're full of shit. You can enter the black holes, but it becomes difficult to navigate and you need to go faster than the speed of light to escape. This is a view from inside the black hole, about 0.10 AU away from the singularity, but beyond the event horizon. The gravitational lensing makes the entire universe appear compressed into a single sphere.

>> No.10536411

>>10536388
found a black hole last night with no light around it like sag. a or the one from interstellar.
has a few planets orbiting actually, kind of unnerving though because you literally have 0 way of knowing it's a black hole until you get close enough
can give you the name if you're interested

>> No.10536440

>>10536411
That's pretty damn cool sounding. Got any screenshots?

>> No.10536448
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>>10536440
sure thing, I'll take another one in a sec with the name/coordinate and all that

this one is from inside looking out. backing up only makes this view smaller and smaller until it's invisible

>> No.10536462

>>10536031
how can you tell there's a red/blueshift?

why isn't the accretion disk brighter?

but i kinda imagined it would look like a smooth dough, or thick chocolate milk, because relativistic speeds, so that checks out.

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>>10536440
oddly enough it's the 'other' in a binary system. sadly even from the closest planet you can't see any warping of space, you have to get juuuust a bit closer

>> No.10536490

>>10536448
>>10536471
That's pretty damn scary. I imagine some guy in his spaceship just traveling along until he notices all of the universe compressing into a ball in front of him.

>> No.10536498
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>>10534335
yeah this is definitely not some old picture shopped into something new, right guys?

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2014/rxj1131/

>> No.10536510
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10536510

Holy shit i just found this on reddit, what do you guys think, is it the real thing??

>> No.10536511

black holes are a lie
wake up sheeple

>> No.10536516
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>>10536490
hell yeah it'd be terrifying
like you see these planets that seemingly orbit "nothing", even though you know there's a star giving them light and when you get close enough to find out what's up with this weird system it's too late

also note the distance I am to see any kind of distortion. I imagine this must be a 'smaller' black hole, but still.

>> No.10536518

>>10536498
aww shoot ;(

>> No.10536521

>>10536498
Hmm lets see
Someone Photosoped a Picture
Or a Someone Hacked into NASA

Yeah Pretty sure it's real

>> No.10536522

>>10536498
Nicely found.

>> No.10536535
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10536535

>>10534335
If digits its real

>> No.10536540

>>10536535
is that asmongold..?

>> No.10536541

>>10536521
>Someone Hacked into NASA
More like a cheeky grad student leaked it
Great shop tho props to OP. It got me.

>> No.10536554

>>10534576
>I don’t know what image editing analysis is

>> No.10536577

>>10536498
Aww geez mann

>> No.10536591
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>>10534335
>>10536498

>> No.10536592

>>10536498
Cracked the case!

>> No.10536605

>>10534335
Why are there so many galaxies there? Wouldn't they be obscured by the rest of the milky way?

>> No.10536606

>>10536031
Soggy Taurus

>> No.10536640

>>10536498
well, fuck

the waiting still continues

>> No.10536668
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10536668

>>10534335
Holy shit, It feels like I'm actually looking into an abyss.

>> No.10536679

>>10534390
Miserable autists throwing away their precious lifetime?

>> No.10536699

>>10536679
hey!
I'm not miserable.

>> No.10536703
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10536703

>>10536605

This should have clued us in immediately. The image that is going to be released tomorrow is supposed to be of Sagittarius A*, which is the center of the Milky Way. So, there wouldn't be the very obvious galaxy in the top right of the image.

>> No.10536721

>>10534335

>Sagittarius A
>Center of our galaxy
>Image is punctured by a dozen galaxies because space
>falling for this

fucking idiots

>> No.10536755

>>10536703
That's not the image of a star being lensed by gravity?

>> No.10536763
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10536763

>>10536498

>> No.10536826

>>10536031
So if we're viewing the disc from above, the black hole is on it's side?
So the jet would be in the galactic plane if it ever becomes active right?
Would this explain the fermi paradox? This black hole periodically wipes out its own galaxy and we're staring down the barrel of a loaded gun.

>> No.10536844

>>10536490
also I wish I knew how to make webms so you could see the progression of distortion

>> No.10536891

>>10534335
Does anyone else lose their mind thinking there's A FUCKING HOLE in spacetime and that we were able to predict what it looks like?

Or maybe we weren't able to predict what it looks like and it would be even better for physics as a whole

>> No.10536899

>>10536703
I remember reading a few weeks ago that it was either going to be Sag A* or one from a different galaxy altogether because of the lack of interference.
so that's why I was fooled.

>> No.10536917

>>10536891
>A FUCKING HOLE in spacetime
what's even crazier is how they're just all over the place
lucky us for being far enough away, right?

>> No.10536955

>>10536917
Wrong. There's a black hole in the Bermuda triangle, and it's strong enough to suck in our entire universe.

>> No.10536962

>>10536955
>it's strong enough to suck in our entire universe.
so why hasn't it done so already?

>> No.10536987

>>10534335
OP image is probably fake, but there already has been another paper that imaged the accretion disc (although not the black hole itself) that possibly suggested we were looking at the accretion disc of Sag A* from above (i.e, straight into the poles of the black hole).
I think they suggested this because the expected doppler shift of the disc (one side being dimmer than the other) was not observed, instead the area showed the same luminosity.

Here is the article:
https://arxiv.org/abs/1901.06226
Video summarising the interesting stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKNMvEnpbQ

If the event horizon study confirms this then it would be quite interesting.

>> No.10536996

>>10536955
You're just thinking of that time your mom went to Bermuda to suck off black dudes.

>> No.10537011
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10537011

It looks like abstract Chinese art.

>> No.10537014

>>10536987
that is fucking spooky and I don't like it

>> No.10537028

>>10536891
Le eben XD!

>> No.10537041

>>10537028
I don't really think his post deserved that much snark

>> No.10537053

>>10536028
>http://spaceengine.org/
thanks anon, i've got myself today an older thinkstation that should run that pretty well!

>> No.10537224

>>10537053
make sure you save/favorite locations in case of a crash
I've been seconds away from setting up the perfect screenshot only for it to crash with me not being able to find the planet I was on. I thought I was on top of things the other night because I remembered "HIP" at the beginning of the planet name. I searched it and there were about a thousand entries so I said fuck it

>> No.10537310
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10537310

>>10534335
really make you think

>> No.10537320 [DELETED] 

you're all dumbasses

google 'black hole firewall'

>> No.10537354

>>10534335
BIG THINK

>> No.10537370

Seriously though, when are they going to release their images?

>> No.10537389
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10537389

>>10534335
A-Anon?

>> No.10537480
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10537480

>>10534335
do you think you are ready mortals? you aren't.

>> No.10537545

>>10534335
is that the image?

>> No.10537584

>>10537370
13:00 UTC, so in about 10.5 hours

>> No.10537956

>>10536462
The accretion disk is moving close to the speed of light, therefore the side that revolves towards us will appear blueshifted and the side revolving away will appear redshifted.
That image just ended up being a coincidentally accurate shop though.

>> No.10537980

>>10536462
>>10537956
And if you don't know why blueshifted light appears brighter, you should probably be looking into that first before trying to understand how light travels around a black hole.
TL;DR, light from something traveling towards us has a more compressed wavelength (towards the blue end of the spectrum). The shorter the wavelength, the more energetic/bright it is. Conversely, light from something traveling away from us gets stretched out into a longer wavelength.

>> No.10538058

>>10536703
That’s not a galaxy, it’s gravitational lensing

>> No.10538063

>>10536826
That’s kinda a cool theory...

>> No.10538083
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10538083

>>10534335
>>10536498

>> No.10538174

Pretty sure we're funding both black hole research and computer security research. I say this as someone who just submitted a security paper that was funded by the Department of Energy.

>> No.10538270

>>10537224
noted, thanks again.

>> No.10538337

Guys what stream should I watch? EU or US?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=Dr20f19czeE
https://www.youtube.com/c/VideosatNSF/live

>> No.10538351

>>10538337
if you're an eu citizen, the eu one, because you already payed for it.

>> No.10538352

>>10536388

You oversimplify this, it's impossible to use common sense or high school physics to describe this.

In any case if you want to say that you can or you cannot enter event horizon, you need to define for what viewer and whose time.

For you of course you can fall into it and it will feel normal in supermassive spinning black holes.
For external viewer you will be forever stuck on event horizon, well not forever but universe itself will end sooner than the observer would see you fell behind completely. The idea that you would just slowly disappear from popular science series is simplified, you od redshift but you would still be there on same spot for said viewer.

>> No.10538363

>>10536498
btfo

>> No.10538623

>>10535084
rekt

>> No.10538693

>>10538351
this

>> No.10538707

Why are all stars and planets spheres?

>> No.10538716

>>10538707
that is how large forms of mass organise themselves when gravitational forces dictate their movement

>> No.10538718

MODS
STICKY
40 MINUTES

>> No.10538721

>>10538707
>planets
>spheres
You mean geoids, right?

>> No.10538723

>>10538718
Shit's fake, noob

>> No.10538725

>>10538721
>being this autistic
yes they bulge at the equator because of centrifugal forces, but they are still technically spheres, albeit not perfect ones

>> No.10538728

>>10536826
why do you think this is the one we are looking at

>> No.10538740

conference/picture announcement streams??

>> No.10538748

>>10538740
https://youtu.be/Dr20f19czeE

>> No.10538777
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10538777

>>10538748
Thank you

>> No.10538983

Where's my icky sticky for this thred?

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>>10538983
here

>> No.10539463
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10539463

>>10534335
lol

>> No.10539659

>>10539463
They look exactly the same except the OP is not cropped and in greyscale coloring.

>> No.10539791

>>10539659
No, it doesn't.

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10539844

>>10539463

>> No.10539998

>>10534335
i don't get it >>10534338
>>10534356

whats so strange about the image?

>> No.10541507

>>10539998
it's not about the image it's that OP is hinting he got into their servers and got it form there just to publish it here before the original image was actually published

>> No.10541520

>>10541507
They previously expressed that the image was lifted from nasa in every other thread. Notice the absence of nada now.

>> No.10542281

>>10537014
>>10536987
So basically a massive fucking jet of energy is flying right towards us and we're going to get fried.. when?

>> No.10542309

>>10536987
Why is it interesting

>> No.10542351

>>10534335
>black hole
>not even black inside

>> No.10542356

>>10534335
OP stop pretending you are a scriptkid
You will never be the dark and edgy hacker from your favorite movie