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10521205 No.10521205 [Reply] [Original]

how are you guys doing coming to terms with the fact that scientismists have been wrong this whole time? Have you begun training your spirit to become a real super saiyan yet?

http://www.fas.org/sgp/eprint/teleport.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000300330001-8.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/psychic
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00791R000200070001-9.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/stargate
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/qi
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000300380001-3.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1697751/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1978229/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20594090
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085832/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29856007
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26275645

Plus many more if you just take the time to look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76FksKjCy58 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYVdhKVb9WE [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03K8fYFUUhs [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiQTCMolLqI [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmo2Bye42go [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVr1p-FlLtk [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB5MdV90v-g [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad7I7e3CYiw [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmn_1AsG10 [Embed]
the last one could be tech and not a psychic technique

https://psychicscience.org/pk2a.aspx
https://imgur.com/a/oLDaSsr

>> No.10521217

>>10521205
I need time to read all of these and conduct some personal research , i will get back to you on the 17th... If possible

>> No.10521245

>>10521205
>posting a wall of links that no one has time to read
Give me the TL;DR

>> No.10521249

>>10521245
tl;dr just read the links, otherwise stay ignorant

basically psychic powers and spiritual energy like chi exists and has been well documented, even psychic teleportation

>> No.10521253

>>10521249
youre the one trying to get the point across, so youre the one who should give us enough info so that we're interested enough to click your shitty links

>> No.10521261

>>10521253
I'd rather not paraphrase every study to avoid skewing the points of the studies, plus, it;s too late to format an op with summaries and titles of every study, maybe next time. Besides, it's not hard to copy and paste, just read them if you are interested, otherwise stay in the dark.

>> No.10521264

>>10521205
ah, i remember my first 8 months of dropping out of school to smoke weed & research ancient aliens

>> No.10521271

>>10521205
>saiyan
excuse me?

>> No.10521272

>>10521264
>>10521271
Read the links and watch the videos. Then comment.

>> No.10521291

>>10521205
Regardless of if it's true or not it makes me curious that the United states goverment thought it was worth a try, which shows you that there is more to reality then meets the eye.

>> No.10521338

>>10521272
i did, i used the information to travel back in time to before i'd read them & posted that comment

>> No.10521406

>>10521205
So how has this superhuman information been beneficial to you so far anon

>> No.10521410

>>10521406
Love is the Key, anon.

>> No.10521411

>>10521261
>I'd rather waste your time before you realize im a schizo retard.
t. you

>> No.10521419

>>10521411
You should probably read the links and watch the videos before you make more of a fool of yourself, anon.

>> No.10521430

>>10521419
This thread has made a fool of you already.

>> No.10521441

>>10521430
If you won't engage with possible evidence, you really have no right to call yourself interested in science. I've noticed that no one has presented an argument against the presented besides "i haven't read it so it's not right".

>> No.10521450

>>10521441
i like you

>> No.10521461

>>10521205
Another “magic is real” bait thread. Randomly looked at one of the Pubmed links and it’s just a study on Tai Chi assisting in weight loss.

There is nothing magical about martial arts, meditation, and general fitness. Goddamn.

>> No.10521464

>>10521461
Another person who randomly picked reading one (1) article and didn't get the whole story. Are you surprised?

>> No.10521466

>>10521205
The conventional explanation for these is that they were disinformation concocted in order to fuck with the Russians during the cold war to make them think we had psychics n shit

>> No.10521473

>>10521464
If I open a bag of chips and the first one I pull out is poisonous, I’m throwing it all out. Create a new bait thread in the future without padding it down with weight gain benefits from martial arts.

>> No.10521478

>>10521466
If you watched the videos or did any ancillary research you'd know that this explanation is the result of the intellectual raping of the idea of occam's razor. I use chi and psi abilities in my everyday life, and know of many others who do too, so I know that pretty much just ignorance speaking, not that that's a problem, but it's wrong and you deserve to learn the truth.

>> No.10521482

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z0_n7tGnK0
The power of the cheese

>> No.10521488

>>10521478
Please post a YouTube video of you casting one of those Harry Potter spells in public.

>> No.10521491

>>10521473
Read the articles in the meantime, the only thing stopping you is your own stubborness and fear of the unknown. "Could my scientism belief system be partially wrong? Oh no!" Just deal with it, it's real, I'm just trying to show other's the truth so we can stop living in a cave and go out and see the sun together.

>> No.10521494
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10521494

>>10521488
This is my "study" in the OP:
https://imgur.com/a/oLDaSsr

pic related is a trial i did this morning.

Try and replicate those results.

>> No.10521501

>>10521491
“Please give my bait more attention when it’s already been revealed as posted in bad faith and dishonesty.”

Sure!, I’ll poke at your bullshit once more. “Project Stargate”

You should have also linked the CIA paper in which they dunk on it and accuse the researchers of manipulating the tests.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00791R000200180006-4.pdf

https://fas.org/irp/program/collect/air1995.pdf

>> No.10521502

>>10521205
Can you drop a few lines about the telepathy issue as it's presented in these articles? I'll look at them (at least) later, but that's the topic for which I cannot wait.

>> No.10521510

>>10521501
Once again, one faulty study should not make you throw the baby out with the bathwater, I'll have to look at those you linked, had never seen them before.

>> No.10521525

>>10521482
Plus, that dude was a natural counter-chi master. Only way to beat him was with a natural chi master, which they didn't have. They were only practiced chi students.

>> No.10521545

>>10521205
>In light of new evidence...
...provided by scientists
>scientismists
found the retard

>> No.10521547

>>10521525
: DD

>> No.10521562

>>10521510
Once again, presenting not one but two dubious and/or false claims to make your wall of text look more science-y renders it all suspect. I’ll bite a THIRD time to make you look even dumber.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1697751/

This isn’t even a study. It’s just James talking about some other study from Japan (from the same journal) and then producing conjecture about what “Qi” is and how it works, it was published in “Evidence-Based Complementary and Alternative Medicine”, some irrelevant open access journal from Egypt of all places that has been called “useless rubbish” by one of its first editors.

https://edzardernst.com/2016/05/ebcam-an-alt-med-journal-that-puzzles-me-a-great-deal/

Here’s his blog.

>> No.10521628

>>10521562
When you're done cherrypicking you should probably critique all presented evidence so you can "make me look even dumber".

>> No.10521653

>>10521628
>you can "make me look even dumber".
You're doing a fine job of that on your own.
If you can't provide a brief digest of your schizolinks then it's apparent you don't have a strong enough grasp on the material to be shilling it.
You just keep being evasive and refusing to speak to any of the very valid criticisms leveled against it. Seems shady bro.

>> No.10521667

>>10521628
“When you're done cherrypicking ”

No, this is randomly picking. I looked at your list of citations, and plucked three at whim, knowing nothing about what they are.

First one is just about how tai chi helps weight loss, which is nice but not magical.

Second is a failed and useless government project ran out a shack.

Third is someone’s ramblings about what Qi is in some low-Tier Egyptian journal.

“you should probably critique all presented evidence”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

“so you can "make me look even dumber"

I’ve already done so by randomly selecting from your list of citations and finding them faulty. Sorry for calling you dumb, that’s rather rude and uncalled for, but you should create a new thread in a few days where you make sure to investigate where you’re sourcing your claims, examine possible rebuttals already made by others, and be prepared to explain how said rebuttals fail. Trim out the useless citations I already pointed out (there’s probably others) and try again. I have to go to work.

>> No.10521669

>>10521653
Next time I'll list the titles with the links, it seriously not that hard to copy and paste a link though, you should be able to read them fine without a title listed.

With the stargarte one, they said they had strong results but "scapped" the project because they couldn't justify it's usefulness. Honestly that just sounds like a "hush hush, we're totally not still working on it *wink*" sort of talk. Of course, there's no way to prove that now either way, but tese p[apers are evidence enough that shady shit goes on behind closed government doors.

Again, you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Read/watch the rest of the papers and videos linked.

>> No.10521671

>>10521653
>>10521667
One of you is pretending to be someone else, should i throw out both of your arguments because one is bullshit?

>> No.10521675

>>10521667
btw, just because you randiomly selected 3 and they were all "fauklty" doesn't mean the rest are. That's gotta be a fallacy of some kind.

Thanks for apologizing for calling me dumb, appreciate it, I'll present this again when the time is right and I have gathered together better evidence. Take care.

>> No.10521686

>>10521671
“One of you is pretending to be someone else”

>>10521667
This is me. Prove I am “pretending to be someone else.”

>> No.10521703

>>10521686
Prove you are you.

All jokes aside, if you weren't both of >>10521667
>>10521653
Then someone is trolling.

>> No.10521777
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10521777

>>10521494
>leave it running in another tab, never pay attention
>get 3/4 right away
Wow, it's fucking nothing. Have fun playing with a literal random number generator.

>> No.10521789

>>10521777
Beginners luck, try two runs of 10 plus iterations.

>> No.10521815

>>10521777
Also, you should actually pay attention while running these iterations, you'll begin to see (if you have any sort of natural latent psychic adeptness at least) that your thought patterns will affect the "growth" of one of the pictures. Really pay attention, trust me.

>> No.10521821

>>10521815
>dude this isn't obvious bullshit, I swear
I don't know what's worse: shilling for pseudoscience, or actually believing that you are influencing the pixels on the screen. Nigga, it is an RNG. This is equivalent to rolling dice over and over and thinking that the numbers you get are meaningful.

>> No.10521824

god i hate newage /x/tards

>> No.10521836
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10521836

>>10521789
Damn, that ignored tab I put this thing in must have really good psychokinetic ability, that is the only explanation.

>> No.10521843

>>10521410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDVtMYqUAyw

>> No.10521845

>>10521821
I'm not sure what's worse, that you are actually this ignorant and bluepilled to how things really are, or that you never even were curious enough to do your own research. Do you honestly think that the world is exactly how they teach it in public school history and science books? Are you really that dull?

I have enough experiences to be satisfied with my stance, I've seen and felt shit that conventional science cannot explain, it's really sad that you aren't ready to experience that kind of thing yet. Maybe someday. Until then, maybe put away your scientism for a second and be open to new interpretations of things. I used to be a materialist atheist, it just didn;t seem like the most rational position to take anymore after a while of actually doing the research. It's funny that you always hear about people going from skeptics to "believers" (childhood indoctrination into religions doesn't count) but never the other way around... It's almost as if the evidence is strong enough for people who actually pay attention...

>> No.10521851

>>10521836
Yeah, probably desu, keep trying at it, actually look at the thing next time you'll be amused by how the images fluctuate with your thought processes.

Protip: it's probably your confidence willing it that way. try assuming it will go to the "avoid" image next time.

>> No.10521852

>>10521845
>I've seen and felt shit that conventional science cannot explain
Like what?

>> No.10521854

>>10521851
Or, y'know, the thing is just programmed to give the target image ~75% of the time. What's your record?

>> No.10521883
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10521883

>>10521854
http://weekinweird.com/2013/01/06/4-year-global-consciousness-data-released-highly-significant-evidence-synchronicity/
http://www.deanradin.com/papers/RNG%20Mason.pdf
https://github.com/fatum2/fatum-en/blob/master/docs/fatum_theory.txt

Some articles and papers about how humans affect rng with thoughts.

I'm doing another test run rn, around 7/10 is my best record for "hits", but I've rarely done more iterations in one sitting than ten, some of the its go for a while because the back and for for me to get a hit from an image that is almost gone to "avoid" is quite difficult to turn and takes a while.

Also, as an example, since you posted I've started a test run, and only made it to the second iteration because when i have these things running in another tab, it just :"settles" between the middle and doesn't budge either way, like it;s neutralized because I'm not focusing on it, and when i opened up the first again, i was like "just get it over with" and "pressed" with my thoughts and got a miss, but when i thought "end it" it chose one immediately. pic related,

the second iteration has still not "chosen", have any of your iterations gone this long?

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10521892

>>10521854
Second one hit, still a very long run time while in a separate tab, doing a third now

I'm actually pretty sure it;s weigfhted towards the avoid, which is why I think either you have a bit of psi ability yourself or the gods are smiling on you

>> No.10521895

>>10521883
>around 7/10 is my best record for
I predict your results will never stray far from this, regardless of how much effort you put in or if you let it run in the background or if you get a """"professional""""" psychic to do it.

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10521902

>>10521845
>>10521851
>>>/x/

>> No.10521904
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10521904

>>10521892
>I'm actually pretty sure it;s weigfhted towards the avoid
It isn't. It is weighted to hit the targed ~70% of the time. Pic related.

The alternative is that I am actually very gifted in PK despite never put any effort towards it. I won't be surprised when you do the mental gymnastics to defend that claim.

>> No.10521907

>>10521845
“do your own research”

Oh god it said the thing flat earthers say

>> No.10521911

>>10521852
Too many instances to count, but here's one:

I work with chakras, and once I had a stinging pain in my tongue. I figured, why not try something out, so I activated my throat chakra and began expanding it like a bubble. As it expanded, and grew through my mouth and tongue, the pain in my tongue went away in line with the expanding edge of the chakra "bubble". And the pain stayed away.

More regularly though, when I think something shitty or mean, I get a pain in my heart chakra, and when I'm feeling good or loved or loving it glows and feels very warm in my chest.

Working with chi you can feel the energy filling up your body when you do it right, as another example.

the third iteration is still running, it has "gone neutral" on me. I wonder why it doesn't do that with >>10521836

>> No.10521913

>>10521902
>>10521907
Ad hominems, ignorable

>> No.10521917

>>10521904
I'm very tempted to say that you are, because my tests never run that smooth, or fast for that matter. My third iter is still going because i haven't been focusing on it.

TBh like I said it's probably your confidence in it hitting "70-% hit rate" thats affecting it, see >>10521883

>> No.10521919

>>10521911
>dude, one time, I had a sore throat
>also, when I think bad thoughts, I start to feel bad, crazy huh?
>the opposite happens when I think good thoughts
Nobody will ever explain these

>> No.10521920

>>10521917
You're fucking delusional. Enjoy your last (you) from me.

>> No.10521921

>>10521911
newage cunt.

>>10521913
you idiots realize that your "scientific theory" amounts to "magic is real" right? no amount of arguing could disprove your retardation. that's fine, you can go to >>>/x/. don't shit up our board with Santa-level delusions

>> No.10521931

>>10521913
>Appealing to Logic when arguing that magic exists

>> No.10521941
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10521941

>>10521919
Strawman

>>10521920
To prove it's not weighted towards hit 70%, i just attempted to hit 10/10 on AVOID image, not hit, for fun, and i did 7/10. Not onkly that but those interations averages 30 seconds, whereas the others averages 500, focus vs nonfocused, respectively.

Got any more to say?

>>10521921
So angry and ignorant, it's almost like they go hand in hand

>> No.10521945

>>10521941
>So angry and ignorant, it's almost like they go hand in hand
oh, now you're going ad hominem. look at you mr. hypocrite

refute this:
your theory is equivalent to "magic is real". fact.

>> No.10521946

>>10521931
Where did Uncle Materialism touch you?

>> No.10521949

>>10521945
"Magic" is real, you just have never tried it yourself. Fact.

>> No.10521962

>>10521949
okay, then it's settled. you believe in magic.
can you see how that completely renders your argument nonscientific? therefore you should leave /sci/ immediately?
a good analogy is going to a science class, say on why water freezes, and then you raise your hand and say "but water freezes because it's a miracle by god."

>> No.10521975

>>10521962
God is not separate from science, that is just dogma you've been groomed to accept as "true".

The articles in the OP discuss one of the main aspects of "magic" an all ancient traditions, life force, called prana, mana, and chi, among other things. Science is finding out that chi exists and can be utilized to cure diseases of the body and mind, as well as perform supernatural feats such as TK, levitation, teleportation, pyrokinesis, and others. Read the articles and studies listed, as well as watch the videos in the OP, then you can comment on whether it's "real" or not.

>> No.10521978

>>10521975
>the CIA is my source on spiritual matters
fucking lmao

>> No.10521980

>>10521975
nope, not reading it. magic is not real. the idea of magic is fundamentally incompatible with science, so i spit on your delusional empty braincase. please fuck off back to >>>/x/ and never return, you worthless piece of trash

>> No.10521988

>>10521978
fucking strawman lmao

>>10521980
Damn you must really feel out of place in this argument to get so defensive lol Oh well stay ignorant bitch lmao no seriously though try unfucking your stubborn brain with some tasty knowledge by reading the links in the OP.

Just remember, if you start learning about this shit now you'll be lightyears ahead of the rest of the sheeple, even by scientismist standards like yourself

lol damn you make me laugh

>> No.10521990
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10521990

>these fuckin nerds dont even believe in magic

>> No.10521999

>>10521988
you are delusional, and you're spreading harmful information to other people. this makes you the equivalent of a pathology on other people, basically a virus or a cancer. you legitimately have only negatives to contribute to society, which means you should be put to death

>> No.10522002

>>10521990
this, unironically

>> No.10522012

>>10521999
I know you think this shit is fake, but I don't honestly believe anyone who's naysaying in this thread watched or read anymore than 4-5 links, because you wouldn't be saying it's fake if you read/watched them all, or read through the whole thread.

It's just also kind of funny when your last ditch communal insult is "delusional", like bunch of broken record npcs, it just kinda bounces off at this point, get a better insult dudes

>> No.10522015

>>10522012
it's fake dude, just face it. magic isn't real.

>> No.10522023

>>10522015
this is hilarious at this point. Keep saying it without backing up your claims, it makes you guys sound like you know what you're talking about

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10522026

>>10522015
Found the CIA shill

>> No.10522027

>>10521946
Where did uncle dualism touch you?

>> No.10522030

>>10522027

I think you mean Uncle Non-Dualism, which was in turned groped by Uncle Paradoxical Godhead.

>> No.10522031

>>10522023
Magic not existing is the null hypothesis LMAO

>> No.10522035

>>10522023
>>10522026
i explained that the idea of magic is fundamentally incompatible with science.

proof:
let's say someone discovered a "magic" phenomenon. say making bunnies come out of a special hat. then what would happen is -- scientists would study the hat and find a scientific explanation for why it makes bunnies. even if it were to require fundamentally changing the core theories of physics. therefore it ceases to be "magic"

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10522039

>>10521845
>not believing me is being ignorant

>> No.10522040

>>10522031
Why? Because it's commonly accepted in this century? Funny joke, everyone laugh. I presented evidence in the OP of some examples of quantifiable "magic", qi and psi phenomenon, including teleportation and energy work/reiki type healing. I asked that everyone read and watch every document and video. People don't do that, then come into the thread to tell me I'm wrong. Obviously they have no idea what they are talking about, whether they are right or wrong, because they have refused to engage with the evidence presented. See why you guys look like the assholes here?

>> No.10522050

>>10521205
i have the power of chi bullshit detecting and i sensed that this is all bullshit prove me worng

>> No.10522054

>>10522050
Do you pay extra on the internet bill to use chi online?

>> No.10522068

>>10522040
all your "evidence" is either fabricated, fraudulent, fudged, collected improperly, riddled with uncontrolled systematic uncertainties, or a statistical fluctuation. i ask you to read David Griffiths' book on particle physics, Hawking and Ellis's book on cosmology, and Polchinski's textbooks on String Theory. ok?

>> No.10522071

>>10522035
Then you are just ruddying the definition of magic to say that it can never exist because if it can be explained then it's science, not supernatural. All well and fine, but then qi, prana, psi phenomenon, telkportation, are not magic in your definition but in fact recorded and verifiable science.

>>10522039
I never asked you to believe me, or never meant to, I just want you to have an open mind enough to research the evidence presented then draw your own conclusions, if I'm being honest and not playing devil's advocate for my own biases and experiences, however true or "untrue" they may be. But if I just keep getting the same cookie cutter replies of "ur delusional" and "magic isn't real" it maykes you look like you aren;t really thinking critically and are just parroting what current dogma you think should be said. If you were actual scientists or science enthusiasts you would see the evidence in OP, say , "wow huh this could be something in any case, I should check it out". Instead I get a thread full of ad hominems and strawmen. Try harder people, for your own sakes...

>> No.10522073

>>10522040
“I presented evidence in the OP of some examples of quantifiable "magic", qi and psi phenomenon, including teleportation and energy work/reiki type healing.”

Teleportation as understood is not “magic” whatsoever to the extent it exists/is plausible.

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10522075

>>10522071

>> No.10522079

>>10522068
Point where all of these wrongdoing are happening then instead of just giving blanket criticisms. I can't take you seriously if you think a statement like that is going to hold any sway.

>> No.10522083

>>10522073
Read:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/eprint/teleport.pdf

>>10522075
Ad hominem, try again nigga

>> No.10522105

>>10522054
>not having a high speed uncapped chi connection to the internet
you ISP is ripping you off m8.

>> No.10522106

>>10521911
>bad thoughts make me feel bad :(
>good thoughts make me fell good :D

Someone call the CIA, I think they found out.

>> No.10522113

>>10522106
strawman, try a little harder next time to have an argument

>> No.10522119
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>>10522071
>i believe in magic, and i am also the authority on recorded and verifiable science, better than the unanimous consensus of all scientists

>> No.10522127

>>10522083
“Read:”

Psychic nonsense is only covered near the end, and the Air Force decided that the study was unproductive and didn’t follow the author’s advice.

>> No.10522129

>>10521205
I know where you're coming from, OP.
The magic about the Universe isn't the big bang, or whatever creationist story you might atribute it to.
It's the simple fact that it exists at all.
There is no reason that we know of that justifies a Universe existing.
From here, any theology might be right, because it makes as much sense as anything we can hold to.
Hopefully, maybe, we get some answer when we die, but maybe not.

>> No.10522130

>>10522040
You know why it's fake? By now mining corps would be using taoist monks to find resource rich areas if "dude lmao power of the spirit" existed.

>> No.10522133

>>10522127
Still, it happened in the study, and worked.

>>10522119
strawman AND an ad hominem, you really are on a roll today anon. Proud of you...

>> No.10522140

>>10522130
The thing is it's basically been being attempted to be supressed by those in power, since about the time of jesus or before, at least in the west. They kind of wanted a monopoly on it, hence why the elite have always been into the occuilt. In due time it will be utilized by all sorts of modalities, from construction to mining to art to science, etc. Just give it time.

>> No.10522147

>>10522113
Your evidence (anecdotal) was that positive/negative thoughts affect physical sensations, that's not evidence of Chi in any way. People are laughing at you because your sources are flatearth youtuber-tier.

>> No.10522159

>>10522133
“Still, it happened in the study, and worked.”

No, it didn’t, because the “study”, if we deign to call it that, only refers to other research rather than producing experimental data of its own. His favorite references are Uri Geller, a TV magician that claims his powers are from literal aliens and who’s spoon bending tricks have been shown to be replicatable without magic decades ago (he was actually sued and lost once for this) and some supposed research from communist China in the 80’s and early 90’s. I’d like to see their results replicated in a respected western journal in the modern day.

>> No.10522164

>>10522140
>"them" haven't used this ludicrously useful and profitable knowledge and abilities for themselves and have suppressed them
>for thousands of years
>but obviously they leave faith healers, mail ninja chi warriors running around.

that's a no for me dog.

>> No.10522202

>>10522159
“some supposed research from communist China in the 80’s and early 90’s”

The Chinese journal I’m referring to also included translations of Soviet “studies” detailing people that could magically shoot lightning from their hands like Emperor Palpatine and resurrect and heal people at the touch like Jesus Christ.

I am more than a little confident that this shit was made up during the Cold War to scare the U.S.

>> No.10522221

>>10521205
Some of us have known this stuff for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1bHSR3WsRA

>> No.10522237

ITT, anons justify their lifes.
None acknowledges the Universe existing at all is a wonder.
I used to do that too.
I just gave up. No amount of me thinking about it will make it change.
IMO, Universe is infinite and expansion is but local to our observable Universe+ way more.
It's unprovable, but that's what I think.

>> No.10522245

>>10522164
They do, do you know what sort of occult shit they do with architecture, logos, and memetics/propoganda/social engineering?

I won't believe at least some of /sci/ doesn't know about following the money, and where that leads.

>> No.10522266

>>10522245
Beware of ghosts, anon.
They really are after your soul.
Kill me now.

>> No.10522270

>>10522245
“where that leads.”

Retarded conspiracy theories synthesized by non sequitor.

>> No.10522271

>>10522270
To be fair, this whole Universe thing looks like a conspiracy theory to make me insane.

>> No.10522299

What do I do now?
I realized we didn't know shit about the Universe existing in the first place.
Then I realized theists were just coping.
Is there no escape?

>> No.10522354

>>10521628
Just face it, you don't have the power of reason. You'll never be a scientist.

>> No.10523120

I don't claim to be a scientist. I dropped out of highschool.

Don't you think we'd be seeing a lot more widespread usage of these abilities amongst groups of people who learned how to use them? You could say that the CIA or whoever is covering them up, but I don't think that would be possible on such a large scale. Every little kid out there that ever watched starwars has probably tried to "Use the force" to no avail.

Sure, they may have given up too quickly and lacked dicipline, but that shouldn't account for the millions of people who practice Qigong on a daily basis for decades.

Maybe I'm missing something obvious that you can help me with. Are there groups and instances outside of these "released doccuments" that are using these methods today with any success? Did they find a way to turn off the psychic potential to keep the power to individuals that they can control?

This raises more questions than it does answers.

>> No.10523125

>>10522271
The universe is well debunked already.

>> No.10523455

>>10521205
o fuck i watched the videos and then after i realized the powers are real my psionics went off the chart i keep on litigating and berning things how do i control the power???

>> No.10523607

If even for a moment you can entertain that this power exists, do you think it would be hereditary?

What if as humans our psychic abilities are genetic and can be measured? If they could do this in the cold war, I wouldn't be surprised if there are 4th generation psychics being interbred with other psychics to pass on their Genes to their offspring getting stronger each time.

That's a lot of hypotheticals, but imagine the implications. If they could remote view and move objects in the 60s, what can they do now?

>> No.10523753

>>10521205
>This study was tasked with the purpose of collecting information describing the teleportation of material objects, providing a description of teleportation as it occurs in physics, its theoretical and experimental status, and a projection of potential applications.

grad school failed, op is a massive faggot

>> No.10523757

>>10523607
ImAgInE a WhItE pSyChIc MaStEr RaCe

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>>10521441
>Materialists/physicalists apply face value judgements to chi/spiritual energy studies which have historically been proven as horseshit time and time again for eons to deduce it is likely not worth their time to consider yet again.
>t. based weebanese imageboard poster has found the real studies that proven it to be true this time, really though
>mfw every skeptic ITT has now surrendered their scientific integrity by refusing to read the Hyperlinked Encyclopedia of Good Vibesica
I shiggy diggy.

>> No.10524228

>>10521464
>There is nothing magical about martial arts, meditation, and general fitness.
>one (1) article and didn't get the whole story

Sounds like it isn't even part of the story you're selling. At all.

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>>10521205
Ignore the troll OP, if there is something here is good that you share it. Others can see and dig what good is in there, discard what not. Even if there is little to no evidence is good to have resources to form conclusions.

Ignorance is always bad.

>> No.10525875

>>10521205
But none of my ancestors came from that planet that freeza blew up.
And I simply don't angry enough since I'm out of my teen years.
But maybe you can become a super sayan - good for you!
I'll stick with science.