/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10514842]

Is English always going to be the most important language for scientists?

[Anonymous No.10514847]

>>10514842
itll be Chinese in about 100-150 years

[Anonymous No.10514852]

>>10514847
lol no

[Anonymous No.10514853]

>>10514842
The world has reached a point of no return.
No major changes of power will happen ever again, until we inevitably reach a state of total globalization sometime in the distant future.
English has won the language battle and will be the basis of whatever language humanity uses in the future.
Of course in the end it will be an amalgamation of all the worlds big languages and will be hardly recognizable.
But unless you plan to freeze yourself and wake up in 1000 years, I think you ll be fine with English.

[Anonymous No.10514855]

>>10514847
This, the west is a litteral clusterfuck now when it comes to academics

[Anonymous No.10514862]

>>10514847
Lol no.

It's going to be French.

[Anonymous No.10514868]

You morons forget that the west is composed of DEMOCRACIES and whoever has the largest population controls the nation. Once Hispanics reach majority in the US and Canada and Aus are diluted enough it will be gg for English language supremacy.

[Anonymous No.10514869]

>>10514842
It is my, boy, indeed, it is.
I am a proud monolinguist and I adore my Mother tongue above all others, finding it to be the most immaculate. I will never learn another language. Non-native English speakers need not attempt any replies, whatsoever, for they are not truly initiated into the wonders of this glorious language and fail to understand its inherent, absolute beauty. I pity those not born to this language, the greatest of them all. The envy of all the world. Purely pitiful, are those born to my language and then discard this prized possession away to gain knowledge of inferior tongue. A precious pearl, one of a kind, one that is a treasure— and these sad cretins decide to trade it for what they think are stores of coin. Keep your filthy lucre. I will do as Shakespeare, Milton, and all great speakers, the masters as I like to call them, of this glorious language have done and keep my priceless English language utterly unsullied.
Let us not forget also the contributions of our Imperial measurement system, which in its complexity instigates neuronal development during childhood. This makes the mind wired better and perform smoother. Any dolt can do divisions by ten. The mass of data, the information of proprietary units and their own unique means of subdivision renders it an immense boon to the human brain.

[Anonymous No.10514872]

>>10514842
Uh, what is latin?

[Anonymous No.10514876]

>>10514872
Acquiesced, amalgamated then superseded by English.

[Anonymous No.10514877]

>>10514868
They'll never be a majority in Canada or the US (even when whites are a minority). Too much immigration from Asia and Africa.

Plus, lots of latinos in the US lose Spanish anyway.

[Anonymous No.10514880]

>>10514868
If this were true we'd all be speaking german right now.

[Anonymous No.10514883]

>>10514847
The day burgers have to learn chink USA will become a third world country.

[Anonymous No.10514885]

Impossible to tell. No one saw the British coming out of the mess in Europe as the future world dominator (or their spinoff in the US continuing that trend themselves for English).

No one saw Rome emerging from their humble beginnings as a little Italian state, either. Sometimes a smaller group of people hit on a great system and ride it out to near world domination.

[Anonymous No.10514889]

>>10514869
>Shakespeare
>soap opera writer
who

[Anonymous No.10514908]

>>10514889
He was the foremost scientist of the English tongue. He knew the ins and outs of the language perhaps better than all of us.

[Anonymous No.10515067]

>>10514876

Which is why English is an excellent language for academia. It's ability to borrow words is unmatched.

[Anonymous No.10515078]

>>10514847
https://www.unz.com/article/dysgenics-and-low-creativity-why-china-cant-save-civilization/
https://www.unz.com/jthompson/asians-bright-but-not-curious/
http://archive.fo/ak2LZ

[Anonymous No.10515090]

Let's see... languages that were the historical lingua franca of science.

??? -> Aramaic -> Greek -> Arabic -> Latin -> English -> ???

[Anonymous No.10515094]

>>10515090
By definition,
??? = ???

Divided both sides by ???

=1
ONE CHINA

[Anonymous No.10515095]

>>10515078

They've never been as "curious" or globally ambitious as Europeans, it's weird. There has to be some X factor cultural or genetic component that makes China wholly uninterested in furthering their innovative/territorial gains.

They had such a leg up on the rest of the world many times throughout their history population/science wise and did fuck all with it. There isn't much to "intellectual capability" if your natural ceiling is severely lowered by your own complacency and myopic nature.

[Anonymous No.10515101]

>>10514862
Man, I fucking wish.

[Anonymous No.10515111]

>>10515095
Although one factor that could change this is if gene editing/embryo selection gets advanced enough, and the Chinese start genetically engineering embryos to have higher curiosity and ambition. Although this could undermine the powers that be, so maybe not.

[Anonymous No.10515117]

>>10514862
>Africans
>contributing anything to science ever
Pick 1

[Anonymous No.10515140]

>>10515095
China is huge, advanced and were making bank trading stuff with through India and the silk road all the way to Europe.

Everything outside China was worthless to them and is full of barbarians (e.g. Mongols) - they dealt with that once and for all by building a wall. Not because they couldn't conquer the Mongolians - but because there was nothing to conquer. Mongols were nomadic tribes living off the land in the steppes and could always retreat further west.

Ottomans & Arabs conquered parts of Africa, Europe (Iberia up to France, Anatolia, Balkans, Caucacus up to Azerbaijan & Chechnya, Indus Valley and beyond till Afghanistan, subsaharan Africa down till Ethiopia, Ghana, Nigeria, Mauritania, Eriteria, South Sudan)...

[Anonymous No.10515543]

>>10515140
The Chinese have always had government problems throughout history, even today, a large chunk of their GDP is wasted on corruption. Even though China has made a lot of progress since getting rid of communism, their government is shitty and very strong, they would be much more advanced if they'd had a functioning democracy.

[Anonymous No.10515572]

>>10514842
Language shifts and changes over time. English today won't be the English of tomorrow.
>>10514847 this guy is partially right, it'll be a mix of Chinese and English possibly. Varying by region. Us will be spanglish

[Anonymous No.10515574]

>>10515117
Hey that's inaccurate.

Peanut Butter was invented by Native-Americans. George Washington Carver is just incorrectly attributed to the invention as it is the thing most people think of when talking about peanut products.

[Anonymous No.10515591]

>>10515572
Language of science will likely be English. Mandarin is spoken by a lot of people, but it is limited to China for first language.
English is the Lingua Franca because of the British Empire and the following dominance of America. Technology is another factor in this, as the internet is mostly in English. China has a large population, but population has been actively controlled. I would say English will remain as the top.

As for shifts in language. Modern communications have ruined dialects forever, youth all speak the same language, shifts are stilted. Spanish in America will hopefully be assimilated out after awhile. All the Germans and all the Swedes eventually spoke English properly, the same can be done for Spanish.

[Anonymous No.10515646]

>>10515078
This is a white guy coping lol.

[Anonymous No.10515658]

>>10514842
English is the nigger of the languages. It steals words, creations, from better languages and creates a wicked being out of the word which lacks soul.

[Anonymous No.10515670]

>>10514842
>>10514869
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[Anonymous No.10516252]

as the empire of the americans start to end in case of debts, destructive behaviour of the world economics andit's unecessary war machinery, there surely will be a new world power that will set it's language for everything as a standard.

just as >>10514847 said. it's going to take roundabout 100-150 years
asians/chinese will take their chance when the us starts the nuclear war on europe and russia

[Anonymous No.10516255]

>>10515670
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[Anonymous No.10516407]

English is a great language for science because most sentences break down into "subject verb object", which maps perfectly onto a materalist reductionist framework. This allows for very clear writing styles. Also the mental model that this kind of language gives is very "causal" in nature. "X pushes Y", "X pulls Y" etc.

Compare to say Japanese. The sentence "the man who was walking down the street" would be literally translated to "street down walking was man". Shit is weird and confusing, and make the precision needed for science very awkward.

[Anonymous No.10516652]

>>10516407
>Let Y be such that there exists and X (call it X_0) such that the pair (X,Y) has the property of forward pushing, i.e. (X,Y) is in the transitive closure of the object category's atomic pushing relation. For specificity we denote Y by Y_0.

[Anonymous No.10516656]

Japanese is the worst language ever invented.

[Anonymous No.10516664]

>>10514847
i see a fellow china enthusiast though I do disagree, both languages will be used interchangeably dependening on the environment but more so English and Mandarin as a very close secondary. The reason is really because most of china has their own dialect dedicated to a small part of their own town i.e. Cantonese fuzhounese. Theres just so many dialects in China for one language to take over in the future.

[Anonymous No.10516672]

>>10516664
>Love, Death & Robots pic
>neo-China enthusiast
must be a cosmotechinics fag

[Anonymous No.10516700]

>>10516664
>soon we'll all speak Cantonese funhouse-ese
[clown world intensifies]

[Anonymous No.10516770]

>>10516407
using a lower-german accent call it english and tell everybody it's the greatest language on earth

[Anonymous No.10516963]

>all these retards saying it's chinese
That massive population of chinese speakers you're bragging about don't matter at all since most of them are concentrated in poor rural towns in China.

[Anonymous No.10517669]

>>10514880
Modern English has a lot of German. The English language has changed beyond recognition since the Norman conquest

[Anonymous No.10517677]

>>10515090
>tfw franca was never the lingua franca