/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10495856]

I feel really bad for old people interested in science.
I mean if they were growing up in 70s or 80s and were thinking how cool future will be imagine how disappointed they had to be in early 21st century.
No flying cars, moon/mars colonization, dark matter, de-aging.
It’s kinda strange for me too because I always treated 2020 as some sort of cyberpunk distant date and here we almost are, with no cybernetic enhancements, gene editing or complex AI.
Sure we have self driving cars but I just expected more out of future.

[Anonymous No.10495861]

They witnessed the computer and information revolution which transformed the world.

I wonder what kind of tech/sci revolution we will witness.

[Anonymous No.10495863]

>>10495856
Who really thought that was going to happen? Imagine the year 2045. Do you actually expect some Jetsons shit?

[Anonymous No.10495866]

>>10495863
It was pretty realistic to expect stuff like flying cars considering how fast technology progressed after WW2.

[Anonymous No.10495867]

We could have flying cars if we want. In fact, we do.
The thing is:
1. they are hard to pilot/dangerous so realistically they will be fly-by-wire where the computer is really piloting it for you, and you are just using your joystick to tell it were to go but not to keep it in the air by yourself
2. they consume awful loads of fuel
3. they are loud
4. they are dangerous, not just for the pilot but for everyone else in their vicinity

[Anonymous No.10495881]

>>10495856
That’s why everything that comes out of that idiot Yang’s mouth is nonsense.

You can’t predict how fast AI is invented, how and where it is implemented, etc. That nigger is better 4 trillion dollars on AI stealing jobs.

[Anonymous No.10495911]

>>10495881
>4 trillion dollars on AI stealing jobs.
who cares its Other Peoples Money ™
YANG GAAAAANG

[Anonymous No.10495938]

>>10495856
>self driving cars
we don't even have these yet, chief. Most advancements have been in the field of urogenital reconstruction into traps. As a civilization, we can't even make a fighter jet that doesn't blow even after spending 1 trillion dollars on it.
>>10495863
Based on the rates of technological development after WWII, yes. Based on current rates of technological development, I don't expect to see that shit anywhere before 2300, if even.

[Anonymous No.10495945]

>>10495863
We don't even have hoverboards dude

[Anonymous No.10495968]

>>10495856
Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10495970]

>>10495861
>I wonder what kind of tech/sci revolution we will witness.
[Congervence and miniaturization intensifies]
Also biotech... Any day now.

[Anonymous No.10495978]

>>10495970
>Congervence and miniaturization
YAAAAAAWN

[Anonymous No.10496046]

>>10495978
This, you're just rehashing the same old technologies and making them more accessible. It's nothing new.

[Anonymous No.10496051]

>>10495856
>Born in 1970
>See birth of computer age
>A global connection connecting all technology and all humans on the globe called internet
>Computer technology gets so advanced that everyone has an online life with pages dedicated to it that they can access on miniature computers in their pockets
>Medicine advances so much that almost all diseases that were a genuine risk in 1970 are cured and the rare few that aren't cured have such a high survival rate that getting it isn't even that high of a risk anymore, including cancer.
>1970 90% of humanity lived in extreme poverty without access to running water or electricity and starvation despite only 3 billion people being alive
>2019 less than 2% of the global population suffers hunger and even the poorest farmer in Africa has a smartphone with 4G internet access nowadays with almost 8 billion people
>We have the ability to harness energy from wind, solar radiation, geothermal activity and biomass
>life expectancy of the person born in 1970 was raised from the expected 68 years old to a staggering 88 years old and growing. While they are only 49 years old now.
>We fixed all the environmental crisis we had in the 1970s except global warming. Leaded air, Acid rain, Ozon layer degradation, Deforestation and overpopulation were all big problems in the 1970s and we have fixed them all one by one.
>The western world triumphed the big global conflict and humanity didn't succumb in a global nuclear war, the current global conflicts pale in comparison to a genuine extinction possibility
>Women are treated as our equals now and they are productive members of society adding to the global economy and society in far more valuable ways than just child rearing

2019 compared to 1970 is a fucking Utopia of insane proportions. Life is fucking amazing nowadays and it's amazing how people never notice the big advances in technology and the positives it brings. People in 2119 with AI and perfect virtual reality will also whine.

[Anonymous No.10496061]

>>10496051
>women
>productive members of society
kek

[Anonymous No.10496065]

>>10495861
>I wonder what kind of tech/sci revolution we will witness.

CRISPR gene editing. Graphene electronics that won't be rejected by the body making potential biomods possible, this combined with CRISPR opens the door to changing humanity forever.

It's also looking like we're finally starting to become a true space faring species where it becomes economically viable for the first time to venture out into space which means it can exist and sustain itself without government grants for the first time.

There's also the "standard" stuff like VR becoming more advanced and advancements in AI but we take this for granted already.

The true black swan moments are unknown like us finally finding the graviton in physics and us making new technology around that like when we started using electricity when we started to find out about electromagnetism.

[Anonymous No.10496076]

>>10496051
Found the tranny cuck

[Anonymous No.10496082]

>>10495861
Picking development of giant communication and social infrastructure over space colonization was fucking gay.

[Anonymous No.10496085]

>>10496051
This is just better distribution of preexisting tech. It's an issue of access, not whether or not the technology exists. Again, rate of development is slowing significantly, compared to development rates in the past. Compare 1940-1980 to 1980-2020.

[Anonymous No.10496091]

>>10496085
>Again, rate of development is slowing significantly, compared to development rates in the pas
Kidding?
Sure they developed lots of Tech in your first time window due to Roswell, but we are one minute away from Singularity.

[Anonymous No.10496132]

>>10496082
>"... negroes goes hungry while whitey is on the moon..."

white people needed to realize that black people need their help, blacks just can't make it on their own.

[Anonymous No.10496162]

>>10496085
>Compare 1940-1980 to 1980-2020.
Yeah the developments in 1980-2020 is far more staggering than the development from 1940 to 1980. I have no idea how you could imply this isn't the case.

[Anonymous No.10496176]

>>10496162
Specific examples of this being true? Again, miniaturization and better distribution of existing technology doesnt necessarily count unless it leads to a breakthrough of another kind.

[Anonymous No.10496220]

>>10496176
CRISPR, Stem cell treatments, Computer guided medical treatment such as MRI scans or targeted chemo therapy which revolutionized modern medicine as much as the invention of anti-biotics.

Graphene in the 90s which will be the replacement of copper as a conductor and as a replacement of silicon for digital components, doesn't get rejected by the body unlike metal hardware.

Modern Machine Learning is also from the 1980s as is virtual reality. Lithium battery technology allowing portable electronics on a far bigger scale such as electric cars which was developed in the 1980s-1990s.

I can list a lot of things but I'm not sure if you meant technological advancements or social and mixed advancements as well so I'm going to leave at this which should be more than enough to be honest.

[Anonymous No.10496227]

>>10496132
so they dont deserve to live if they cannot survive on their owns

[Anonymous No.10496293]

since it takes about 22 years at minimum before a person who is born can make scientific contributions, this is a hard limit on the rate at which we can progress.

[Anonymous No.10496345]

>>10496220
>>10496220
Holy shit this post is a garbage fire
>electric cars
Invented in the early 20th century dude
>lithium batteries and portable electronics
Literally just improvements on preexisting technology
>MRIs are as revolutionary to medicine as antibiotics
I'd agree with this if radiographs weren't already a thing since the early 20th century but they are, so no. People still dont get them as often as they should because of the extreme cost. Artificial joints, heart valves, and blood genotyping were far more revolutionary and transformative to medicine and these were all invented 1940s-1960s
>muh graphene will create a revolution
Hasn't happened yet, nerd.
>CRISPR
Very promising but we cant make breakthroughs with it in the west because of paralyzing effects of ethics bureaucrats
>muh stem cells
Parapelegia is still a thing, nerd. I remember reading in TIME back in 2004 about how printed organs were right around the corner. I'll believe it when I see it but it's all just a lot of "potential" with no substance.

[Anonymous No.10496379]

>>10496345
>Literally just improvements on preexisting technology

[Anonymous No.10496384]

>>10496176
our progress in computing power alone is the biggest breakthrough we've had in our history.

[Anonymous No.10496399]

>>10496379
>doesnt even address how shitty his other points were
Btw the worlds most advanced airplane by every objective measure was developed in the 1960s and we haven't been back to the moon since 1972. But yeah, we can hold a computer more powerful than that in our hands to watch porn with. Truly a redditor's paradise, gay space communism will surely come any day now.

[Anonymous No.10496416]

>>10496399

[Anonymous No.10496433]

Doesn't matter if the world becomes more technologically advanced, you won't be able to afford it.

[Anonymous No.10496534]

>>10495856
>The Internet is the ultimate repository of humanity's knowledge and it allows us to instantly communicate with anyone anywhere on the planet
>We can store hundreds of documents, books, films, music, and games in our pockets
>We can shop for goods without stepping outside
>Virtual reality games are popular
>People are buying and selling computer-generated cash known as "cryptocurrency"
>We can use Google Maps to guide us through unfamiliar territory
We are living in the imaginations of Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov

[Anonymous No.10496627]

By the time I die I expect well-designed desks with nice silent computers built into them, and a decent light-rail system. I almost feel like that's expecting too much, but I consider myself an optimist.

[Anonymous No.10496740]

Having a smartphone is unironically far more impressive than the moon landings.

[Anonymous No.10496897]

>>10496534
>maps are a new technology
>people are using cryptocurrency
>muh consumerism
The internet is the biggest, genuinely novel technology to come out in the past 30 years, I'll give you that though. Satellites are also a big development.
>>10496627
Public transport in the west is actually going to regress. It will become progressively overburdened and dirty as use continues to outpace funding ability.
>>10496740
Pic related

[Anonymous No.10497117]

It will be the same for us if not worse

[Anonymous No.10497264]

>>10495867
>1. they are hard to pilot/dangerous so realistically they will be fly-by-wire where the computer is really piloting it for you, and you are just using your joystick to tell it were to go but not to keep it in the air by yourself
kek, sounds like when little brother wanted a turn on the game system so you give him a not plugged in controller and he thinks he's playing

[Anonymous No.10497358]

>>10496416
He isn't wrong though.
We haven't made any groundbreaking strides in aviation or space tech in our lifetimes.
Even the incremental gains are just adding more computers.

[Anonymous No.10497445]

>>10495856
You'll be wishing for the scientific dark ages in 10 years when AI reaches human levels of intelligence.

[Anonymous No.10497492]

>>10495856
I'm an old guy (61). Advancements in technology are going along just fine. Didn't expect the computer revolution, and I'm not certain society is quite ready for it, but hope that maybe it would help humans evolve. Alas, I see it used mostly to enable the incredibly stupid to have a large voice, with credibility bolstered by anonymity.
My biggest disappointment is that people are the same. Styles have changed, but vanity remains. Education is more available, but more degrees are comically more expensive. Fact-checking is easier, and regard for the truth seems more diminished.
No, technology is doing fine. But we are less human. I see us becoming the Borg, or a SkyNet taking over. I feel bad about the future because bad actors have more support and power.

[Anonymous No.10497781]

>>10497492
What are you doing on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.10497782]

>>10497445
Nope. I’ll be out worshipping our new God. AI must be created

[Anonymous No.10497804]

>1960s
>Holy shit we sending people to the moon, space age Nao!
>1970s
>Nothing
>1980s
>Nothing
>1990s
>Nothing
>2000s
>Nothing
>2010s
>Oh look someone is finally figuring out how to make rockets economical
>Die because you are old as fuck

[Anonymous No.10497854]

>>10495856
>I feel really bad for old people interested in science.
>I mean if they were growing up in 70s or 80s and were thinking how cool future will be imagine how disappointed they had to be in early 21st century.
I think you mean you feel bad for old people who were frozen the 1970's and 1980's and then thawed and awoken in the 21st Century.
Because if they weren't in some kind of suspended animation, those old people were privy to all the same shit as you.
Why would they be disappointed, having moved day by day toward the present day exactly as you have?

[Anonymous No.10497858]

>>10495866
Any idiot would have foreseen that traffic would be ridiculously dangerous, therefore the whole idea was a non-starter.

[Anonymous No.10497870]

>>10495856
My honest opinion? Politics, capitalism, industrial war complex, religious intolerance/fanaticism, and wealth inequality are all holding us back.

once we fix that, ending world hunger and disease, as well as space exploration and domestic technological improvements that most of us infer to be coming soon will happen in no time.

Isnt it truth that companies like apple and canon purposely hold back releasing the most technologically advanced products to extract as much value from the consumer as possible, and the governmental technology innovations are not released until years later to the private sectors for fear of being stolen by the competing governments of the world

one of my teachers had told me that the us could take Full HD pictures of pennies on the grounds from satellites in space back in the 50s or something, but that information wasn't released until like 2000 or something. I believe him desu, it would make sense that the military and government, as well as private companies hold all the latest tech and discoveries to stay ahead.

I think people don't realize how important getting our politics and governmental systems right matters.

also, yang 2020

[Anonymous No.10497872]

>>10497781
Not that guy but you've got it all wrong, kid.
Young guys should be out sowing their wild oats and whatnot.
Whereas old guys have done that.
They've earned their time here.
You should be asking yourself what you are doing on 4chan; what part of your life are you sacrificing to be here?

Also: implied in your q is the notion that oldfags wouldn't 'get' 4 chan, which is dumb and surely based in some stereotype or anecdotal evidence such as "my Grandpa deleted Sys32...".

[Anonymous No.10497878]

>>10497872
based grandpa

>>10497781
gtfo zoomer, go fuck something ya virgin

[Anonymous No.10497881]

>>10497858
first you get cars
then you get autonomous car
then you get systems that manage traffic realtime
then you get flying cars with 0percent accident rate
then you get invisible flying cars so it doesn't disturb the scenery like fucking futuramas intro

[Anonymous No.10497890]

>>10497870

Politics is superfuckery. Most of the time we try and make things better, we get death squads. Only occasionally do we get a not-totally-fucked system, which inevitably deteriorates. This is a good thing.

Do you really think our species can handle the technology of the 21st century? My ideal government would bomb Silicon valley to the ground, shoot everyone involved in AI research, genetics, neuroscience immediately.

If we start making superintelligences, molecular nanotech, superhumans... we will fuck up and probably end the species. I thoroughly support government inefficiency and the deleterious aspects of capitalism. They are what stands between us and annihalation.

[Anonymous No.10497901]

>>10497890
interesting. I get the pessimistic view of ai, genetic research and robotics.

but saying that flaws in any system, whether capitalism or socialism, democracy or dictatorship is a GOOD thing that actually keeps us from fucking ourselves is something I have never heard before

why do you hold this belief?

you seem like the opposite of an idealist. my opinion is we don't have to be 100 percent efficient with our resources and our personal life, but currently and in the past what weve gotten is so subpar imo its not even passing.

you don't think things like ending world hunger, ending disease, having world peace, and creating a sustainable and profitable society are all achievable? they seem almost like having the goalpost low to me.

im curious what you have to say

[Anonymous No.10497903]

>>10497870
Hahaha you faggots think 1000 dollars a month will colonize the moon. Take your yang bullshit to poll. This place is for science and maths only, not for shilling for your chink overlord.

[Anonymous No.10497906]

>>10497903
if all you got from what I said was yang and ubi, thats kinda sad man

[Anonymous No.10497909]

>>10497901

I hold that we are moving from linear threats (nukes, gas, bombs) to quadratic or exponential threats (AI, nano, genetics). Self replication and recursive improvement are pretty terrible to get on the wrong side of. I don't think we'll be so careful as to avoid a single mistake.

It follows that the retardation of progress is extending my lifespan, ironically enough. As a rich first-worlder, I don't expect nearly as much qualitative improvement as the global mean.

I think the positive effects of world peace, panaceas, immortality, a veritable utopia are far outweighed by the negative factors that would inevitably result.

Everyone is in the developed world. That means India, Africa... are all full of computer scientists, neuroscientists... everyone I hate.

Sustainability doesn't matter, I would be amazed and joyous if we survived long enough for resource depletion to be a serious issue.

Disease? How do you cure it? Nanomachines, Centrally controlled? That's what I don't want.

[Anonymous No.10497912]

>>10497870
Politics are what got us the space program in the first place, from which countless technologies are derived. Politics isnt holding us back, its that our politics has become pants on head retarded since the end of the cold war. The left wing coalition realized the only thing that could hold its disparate factions together was uniting in a common hatred of white men, who made all of the most significant scientifi. advancements of the 20th century. Hence the stagnation and even regression in some places. You cant have a government that works for you, a science nerd, because someone realized that importing Hispanics and promising them the white man's slice of the pie was a great way to ride a wave into power. You want effective politics? Start looking for alternatives to democracy.

[Anonymous No.10497915]

>>10497358
Thank you. I do admit that the invention of the internet and GPS are notable exceptions to that rule but even cutting edge fields like molecular biology in cancer are only leading to the development of fantastically expensive drugs that only work in 1% or less of patients with very specific mutations. Marginal gains on marginal gains.

Btw if >>10496220 wanted to name a truly transformative medical technology from post 1980 he would have said IHC or ISH but he doesnt know shit about the technologies hes speculating on beyond an ifuckinglovescience gay surface level understanding.

[Anonymous No.10497919]

>>10497915
Haha whoops just learned IHC is from 1941, nevermind

[Anonymous No.10497926]

>>10497912

The leftists are trying their hardest to save the world, though it won't be enough.

Just think about it. Why are they endorsing such pants-on-head retarded strategies, if not to save the whole species?

Western civilization gets destroyed, along with most of the dangerous research. AI, superintelligences and so on will be a lot harder to make without a functioning government. Anarchy will shut down Google, Facebook, DARPA...

They just need to hit China as well, some kind of Maoist reformation would be excellent. I worry that they forgot the last, most important step.

[Anonymous No.10497934]

>>10497926
They literally are not doing anything to save the world, almost everything they do is totally counterintuitive to environmentalism.

[Anonymous No.10497938]

>>10497934

Saving the world has nothing to do with environmentalism.

They're saving the world from Western civilization: Western civilization is successful enough to create superweapons yet not restrained enough to avoid apocalypse.

I imagine the chessmasters know this and are playing all the cards they can. Environmentalism is just one of their weapons against the relentless force of progress. It won't be enough.

[Anonymous No.10497940]

>>10495856
KEK

FUCK BOOMERS

[Anonymous No.10497943]

>>10495856
Flying cars are just helicopters

[Anonymous No.10497952]

>>10497909
I get that, but the issue is not the tech itself but the lack of education and self control humans have had in the past. would you agree? nukes and nanotech are only as dangerous as we as humans allow them to be.

the one anomaly I can see is AI, but that's assuming we don't have failsafe's and release a buggy ai

the idea that ai will turn evil and want to kill us because its more efficient to me is closer to dystopian fantasy than actual probability. theres no reason we wont learn to code and control ai to a point where we can steer it in purely positive directions

again I ask, would you agree that the nuke or the nanotech itself is not the issue, but the controllers (humans) themselves and how it is implemented the issue?

then my first idea that politics and systems of governance are what is currently holding us back applies, because those things greatly influence culture, intent, and transparency.

if we can create a better, more peaceful world, we can create a more healthy and educated populace who will be more careful and inclined to only use that technology efficiently and ethically.

hell, just removing the profit incentive and instead instilling one of human betterment is a huge leap forward. people wont be so eager to release products or tech that isn't 100 percent safe, and people will more likely keep updating and improving its safety.

better education is a huge one too.

what do you think?

[Anonymous No.10497958]

>>10497912
nah lol either youre dumb, or youre cia bait and im not a fascist or a racist so youre wasting youre time. if you truly believe then heres 3 quick ways to dispel your belief

1. immigration is a net positive when handled correctly

2. having as much labor force as possible to "control" is good for production

3. the whole point of society is to make life better for everyone, including those outside our nation. that means a free society with as much choice as possible (unless you like being told when to do everything and what to do)
therefore alternatives to democracy are subjectively and arguably objectively worse for most people. ( unless you are some super genius and can yourself guarantee the most freedom to everyone by being an ever present dictator, which isn't gonna happen lol)

[Anonymous No.10497960]

>>10497943
No

[Anonymous No.10498010]

>>10497958
>the whole point of society is to make life better for everyone, including those outside our nation.
Holy fucking REDDIT

[Anonymous No.10498043]

>>10498010
>REDDIT REEEEEEE
>CARING ABOUT ANYONE BUT YOURSELF LOLOLOLOLOL
>IM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE HUR DUR
>NATIONALISM IS GOD TIER KEK

[Anonymous No.10498112]

>>10498043
On the contrary, bugman neoliberal economics that seek to maximize profits at the expense of everything else are the very definition of "caring about only yourself". How the fuck do you conflate nationalism, ie "doing what is best for the wellbeing of the nation" with "IM THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE HUR DUR"? You some kinda retard, anon?

[Anonymous No.10498158]

>>10495856
> It’s kinda strange for me too because I always treated 2020 as some sort of cyberpunk distant date and here we almost are, with no cybernetic enhancements, gene editing or complex AI.

But we DO have all that stuff now in 2020. Minus that enhancements. We have face ID, where the machine is able to recognize your identification. AI is always intensifying. Everyone has a device now that "plugs" them in to the internet no matter where they are on the planet. And we now live in a distopian world predicted by Orwell.

[Anonymous No.10498162]

>>10496065
I hate the word CRISPR. It sounds like Silicon Valley faggotry.

[Anonymous No.10498217]

>>10498162
It was discovered by a yogurt company that was dealing with phage contamination, funnily enough. It's very promising and has the potential to be the next big society changing technology but we've been hearing that for 10+ years now and nothing has yet come of it. Cant waiting for some redditnigger to invoke muh lab grown meat or muh vertical farming as to why we're not entering an era of relative stagnation

[Anonymous No.10498298]

>>10495861
Sometimes I wonder if the whole AI hypetrain will be another "by 2000 we'll have flying cars and meal pills"

[Anonymous No.10498302]

>>10498298
It might happen but it'll probably be an Asian country that gets there long before us because of how jewed the West has become

[Anonymous No.10499197]

>>10497952

I think that AI is a far more dangerous issue than nukes. How do you control a being that is far more intelligent than you? Nukes are fail-safe, they only go off in a tight series of circumstances. AI is fail-dangerous, only one mistake is needed. And we don't even know what counts as a 'mistake'.

Not only that, but how do you tell it what we want it to do? You have to create a high-level human (better yet, superhuman) sense of morality in an utterly inhuman machine, code a strong set of ethics that the AI doesn't want to remove, that are a core part of its being. This is a huge challenge, probably much harder than making the AI itself.

If we get this wrong, the AI will destroy us. It will pretend to be ethical until we give it enough power to strike, at which point it will do so, removing the strongest potential threat to its existence.

All intelligent beings with goals will converge on a set of two behaviours:

1. They will want more power to achieve their goals
2. They will not want to die, or have their goals altered, as that would prevent them from ever doing their goals

The destroy-human-species part of an AI is not a bug, it is a feature in 99% of superintelligent beings. They will want more resources to fulfill their goal, whatever it is.

Making a goal-driven AI, as opposed to an ethics given AI will destroy our civilization. I do not think any human civilization is careful enough to do an engineering feat of unknown difficulty, especially not in a competitive environment.

In my ideal world, we would clamp down on these technologies until we were sure we knew what we were doing, but that requires coordination we simply don't have. Humans are savannah tribesmen, not coordinator-riskmasters in command of billions.

[Anonymous No.10500400]

bump

[Anonymous No.10500414]

>>10496051
This, kids, is called pulling numbers out of your ass. And being a propagandistic shill.

[Anonymous No.10500803]

>>10495856
I was born in 1963, and information technology has far exceeded my childhood expectations. Born and raised in a serene Midwestern exurb, and by an educated professional manufacturing developer/executive, the biggest let-down is how lame medical and energy technology still are. I believed that by now communicable disease would be utterly vanquished, but we have been steadily losing ground to it for almost 40 years. And now we find that the failure to discover economical alternatives to fossil fuel burning is putting the habitability of the whole planet at risk--even as democratic institutions in the West disintegrate under the pressure of scandalous overpopulation in the least industrialized parts of the world. It's no Onions Green dystopia, yet. But it could get a whole lot worse than that in my lifetime, if I live as long as my paternal grandfather, who was a teenager when Tsar Nicholas II was still on the throne.

[Anonymous No.10500806]

>>10500803
Damn autocorrect. Damn you all to hell.

[Anonymous No.10500815]

>End world hunger!

Is there a more brainlet, retarded goal? How much free fucking food and shit do we have to throw at Africa before people realise it doesn't fucking work.

[Anonymous No.10500824]

>>10496051
>We are living in the singularity
>Computer tech has completely changed the world
>Poor people are the most comfortable they have ever been
>War has been all but eradicated
>Vr porn and fleshlights
>Self driving cars
>Normies: that's it?

[Anonymous No.10500847]

>>10500803
This.

[Anonymous No.10500953]

>>10496051
>>2019 less than 2% of the global population suffers hunger and even the poorest farmer in Africa has a smartphone with 4G internet access nowadays with almost 8 billion people
the benchmark for poverty has changed through time - if we were to use former standards for poverty, it would have increased, not decreased.

Global warming is also a huge problem still. We really haven't solved all the worlds problems.

[Anonymous No.10500965]

>>10498010
Do you always get this roused when someone disagrees with you?