Who will be the first upload /sci/?

[Anonymous No.10485746]

I'd like your prediction.

Will it be a single individual? A group? How will this decision be reached? What will the selection process likely be?

[Anonymous No.10485754]

>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10485782]

>>10485754
Paranormal phenomena concern the supernatural.
Please think before commenting.

[Anonymous No.10486018]

>>10485746
It's probably gonna be a Roundworm: https://newatlas.com/c-elegans-worm-neural-network/53296/, then its going to be a mouse -
https://www.futuretimeline.net/blog/2018/07/10.htm.. A monkey brain will be the next step, human mind simulation will occur after that ad will be tied with AI programming, this simulated human mind will not e based on a RL human but be its own entity.
A Moravec Mind Transfer will be possible in around 80 years when we get functional biological nanomachines.

[Anonymous No.10486659]

>>10485746
I see the problem of human mortality following another route. I suspect it will be more drawn out and less distinct than moving consciousness from a brain into a computer.

I think older people will begin purchasing robotic and cybernetic implants and limbs as their body breaks down. Their brain will be supported by a basic computer system. Memories will be transferred onto digital format for patients of Alzheimers and dementia.

As their brain gradually fails, more and more brain functions will be taken up by a computer system. Eventually there will be no organic parts left. At that point their consciousness will have migrated into the digital realm.

[Anonymous No.10486666]

>>10486018
what will a computer do if its a mouse?

[Anonymous No.10486813]

>>10486666
Depends on the stimuli.

[Anonymous No.10486824]

>>10485746
we find out that mind uploading is basically impossible after we scan some rich dude in destructively and he comes out as a mashed potato. Like he's not even a potato, just ends up twitching randomly. We then discover that neurons are carrying out molecular level analog computation and give up on mind uploading

[Anonymous No.10486832]

>>10486824
But we already uploaded a worm's brain into a computer and we are now working at uploading a mouse brain into a computer.

[Anonymous No.10486857]

>>10486832
And can this so called upload reproduce all behaviors of C.Elegans? Maybe it just superficially resembles what a worm does. And guess what anon? We recently discovered that neurons communicate with virus like particles, which completely changes our entire understanding of neurons:
https://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2017.12.024
Just take pictures of the synapses might not be enough now

[Anonymous No.10486876]

>>10486857
Good. "Uploading" a conscience is a sin against nature as far as I'm concerned anyway.

[Anonymous No.10486894]

>>10486857
This ARC gene only matter to the mammalian brain though (still a very interesting finding, thanks), the roundworm is one of the best researched life forms on earth and it indeed behaves exactly like the worm. The reseach allowed many insights on the neurological funtions of primitive lifeforms.
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rstb.2017.0382

I think its naive to say that simualoting a mind is impossible and before going solipsistic with " superficially resembles what a worm does." I shouldremind you that the Roundworm is not a really complex lifeform and has no mind of its own. I think its possible to one day simualte the human brain, I don't think that there is something like a soul and there is nothing intrinsic special about bioogy to make digital minds impossible.

[Anonymous No.10486905]

>>10486894
In my opinion it's possible to simulate a human brain, whether it can be done anywhere close to realtime and with practical computing resources is another issue. If we have to simulate down to individual atoms or molecules, mind uploading is impractical.

[Anonymous No.10486961]

>>10485782
Well "uploading" does not exist, and there is no current science or technology that is close to making it exist. So
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10487147]

>>10486961
But we already did simulate a worm's brain and the Blue Brain Project is working at simulating a mouse brain.

[Anonymous No.10487157]

>>10485746
I really enjoyed this movie. I don't know what it was so universally hated.

Ok, the ending scenes were pretty shit. But the first 50%-75% were good.

[Anonymous No.10487159]

>>10486813
>>10486018
Is it actually a mouse? Or is it just a computer pretending to be a mouse?

[Anonymous No.10488005]

>>10487159
Its the computer simulation of a mouse. The only way you could upload a mind would be via gradual neuron replacement or a mind outsourcing.

[Anonymous No.10489970]

>>10486018
How can we predict when a certain technology will emerge? Is 80 years just a meaningless ballpark figure or is there a legitimate set of obstacles known to be in the way of nanomachines and it 'should' take that amount of time to overcome them?

[Anonymous No.10489976]

>>10487159
How could you tell between the two?