/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10473303]

>it's 2019

[Anonymous No.10473331]

>>10473303
Great idea. Also, replace English with a class that teaches you how to write emails and application letters. Replace Art with how to draw police sketches. Replace History with metal-detecting class.

[Anonymous No.10473341]

>>10473303
Great idea remove one of the only classes that actually requires students to think a little.

[Anonymous No.10473374]

>>10473303
Get rid of all math classes. We have calculators now.

[Anonymous No.10473376]

it's not exactly a bad idea, but make it an optional elective instead since most students end up taking college algebra anyway

[Anonymous No.10473454]

>>10473303
>le math is boring and hard because they dont teach applications meme
>*based retard raises hand in class*
>"lmao but when am I ever gonna use this irl, Mr. Teacher, amiright"
>Mr. Teacher reports back to department head who reports to the principle who reports to the head of the public school system for the state and/or to the owners of the school
>The """powers that be""" decide that in order to address poor performance in math, we need to """reorient""" maths education.
>No more proofs, no more algebra, no more geometry, no more learning about the eternal truths of abstract mathematics
>Old high school math topic: Any pair of paralleograms having two sides coincident with the same set of paralel lines enclose the same area
>New high school math problem: De'shawn need a loan of $X from Mr. Sheklestein. If Mr. Sheklestein wants to make $40/month in interest, how much De'Shawn finna pay back in interest over the lifetime of the loan if he pays at a rate of $Y/month. Additionally, assuming this nigga gets $Z in welfare/month, how often he and his main mans Tyrone needa hit a lick so his ass aint default on that shieeet. Round all decimal values to 7 significant figures.

Yeah, accounting, interest rates, and basic kinematics are definitely wayyyy more interesting that stuff like Euclidean geometry or elementary number theory.

[Anonymous No.10473460]

>>10473303
Most things in finance require a solid background in calculus, like calculating your investment dividends. Which you won't be able to know whatsoever unless you took that Algebra class

[Anonymous No.10473468]

>>10473460
I don't think she means that degree of rigor.

[Anonymous No.10473469]

[Anonymous No.10473501]

>>10473341
Algebra II at my high school was the hardest math class I ever took because it introduced and synthesized the widest array of math topics thus far such as algebra, trigonometry, and introduced basic calculus concepts like evaluating series, the limit, rate of change, etc.

It is the class the elevated my understanding from disparate tidbits to higher abstract intuition.

[Anonymous No.10473505]

>>10473303
She's not wrong and there really needs to be classes on how to do your taxes.

[Anonymous No.10473515]

>>10473505
Everything she talks about can be taught in a one-semester course like a health class. Algebra II is the most important high school math class for anyone who plans on pursuing STEM. It is the stepping stone to higher level maths, and you continue using its concepts throughout your life if you go into a STEM career.

[Anonymous No.10473517]

>>10473501
0% of that is ever used

[Anonymous No.10473523]

>>10473303
forgot about teaching people how to wipe their ass, swallow their food and use elevators.
This are must have life-skills, I can't believe we never got taught this in school.

[Anonymous No.10473525]

That's not finance fundamentals, that's knowing shit every adult in a market economy should know. And while finance at an introductory level doesn't deal with any sort of heavy math, it's much better to know some math if you want to take it. The government wants you to pay your taxes, and banks want to have more customers, they obviously understand that the basic procedures must be doable by the average retard. Knowing math lets you explore a much wider set of areas in all sectors of the market.

[Anonymous No.10473533]

>>10473469
kek why do idiots get so mad about this anyway?

[Anonymous No.10473616]

>>10473331
replace chemistry with a cooking class. replace physics with a driving class.

[Anonymous No.10473652]

>>10473303
>this thread again
Don't you morons get tired of reposting this garbage?

[Anonymous No.10473925]

>>10473505
Dude it takes like 15 minutes to learn how to do your taxes

[Anonymous No.10473930]

>>10473331
>Replace Art with how to draw police sketches.

Negatory, they're now using software for police sketches.

[Anonymous No.10473931]

>>10473303

Algebra 2 is a prerequisite to everything else the dumb bitch just mentioned.

[Anonymous No.10473934]

>>10473331
>Replace History with metal-detecting class.
They get the metal-detecting lesson when they walk through the front door of the school.

[Anonymous No.10473936]

>>10473460
>calculating investment dividends
>is mathematician
>who needs to invest with 300K a year?

[Anonymous No.10473937]

>>10473374
Get rid of all schools. We have Youtube now.

[Anonymous No.10473952]

>>10473517
Seems like you didn't read his post faggot.

[Anonymous No.10473963]

>>10473303
No one in the modern world (2019) should be unaware of mathematics. Understanding basic math and science is the key to fighting off various forms of retardation like flat earth, organized religions, etc.

[Anonymous No.10473984]

>Owning a home in 2019
Is this some kind of joke?
I'm 25; not the smartest bloke around I'll admit, but the concept of owning a home just doesn't fit into my reality.

Even if I could afford it (Which I can't) why would I want to? Why would I want to nail myself down to one city; one town; one stretch of ground?

[Anonymous No.10474004]

>>10473505
I literally just plugged my shit in turbotax...what was so hard about that?

[Anonymous No.10474034]

Algebra and in general almost everything you will learn in precalc 'math class' is irreplaceable in its fundamentals!
Trust me I slacked off in year 11/12 ap math and now I'm sucking dick in calculus, and calculus is a real world application of most 'mathematical' concepts you learned in school.
In short, people should have an explanation for what algebra is even for before they lean it.
If a kid goes through high school without knowing that algebra is a tool for something great will only see as far as his course and will see a bunch of useless equations and rules with allot of hypothetical applications.

[Anonymous No.10474040]

>>10473303
ALGEBRA 2 IS FINANCE FUNDEMENTALS
Paying off a credit card, or a debt, uses the geometric series formula, and then computing the number of months until the debt is paid off requires logarithms.

[Anonymous No.10474043]

>>10473303
She's not entirely wrong. I'm almost 30 and I still don't even know how to write a check.

[Anonymous No.10474044]

>>10473303
>lessons aren't engaging enough, we need to do more to inspire future talent
>lets teach them about all the boring adult shit that no one likes doing

[Anonymous No.10474048]

>>10474004
>I literally just plugged my shit in turbotax...what was so hard about that?
I-Is that how one files his taxes? You plug it into TurboTax? Asking for a friend.

[Agniveer No.10474049]

>>10473454
Underrated

[Anonymous No.10474101]

>>10474044
This.

I'm in a European business school and we've course on how to do accounting, financial planning, taxes... Not only this is super boring, but also as >>10474040 says, if uses a lot of algebraic concepts.

You also learn that all of this is very context dependant. Doing your taxes, accounting and financial planning, in the US, is not the same as in Russia. It depends on legal rules.

You need to have some level of abstraction to adapt when the legal rules will change, which they do about every 2 or 3 years.

tl;dr keep teaching maths, it's consistant, unlike finance and stuff.

[Anonymous No.10474119]

>>10473331
>replace PE with how to write code

[Anonymous No.10474125]

and whos gonna do the dirty job then whne everyone is sooo smart

[Anonymous No.10474132]

I'd rather keep the maths. Stuff like Finance and Taxes, all that jazz you can set aside a few days in the year for senior students. No need to take out an entire fucking curriculum for it.

[Anonymous No.10474223]

>>10473303
Don't schools already do this?
My high school had a "calculus path" for the kids that actually put in the effort and a "business math" path for the retards

[Anonymous No.10474233]

Why would they get rid of Algebra 2 for finance fundamentals? Why not something like art or history, that have basically no useful application ever?

[Anonymous No.10474239]

>>10473303
Im still baffled by the fact that amerisharts stop at algebra in highschool, here in belgium 1 year before highschool you take series , limits and derivatives and during the last year you take integrals, linear algebra and complex numbers.

[Anonymous No.10474301]

>>10474239
You learn algebra, complex numbers, and linear algebra in middle school and take calculus your second to last year in high school in America what are you talking about

[Anonymous No.10474339]

get rid of kids
we have robots now

[Anonymous No.10474354]

>>10474301
Only the most advanced students do that. Most students stop at Algebra 2. Source: I went to an American high school.

[Anonymous No.10474365]

>>10473331

This.

[Anonymous No.10474374]

>>10473303
>>10473331
this thread is giving me the strangest feeling of deja vu

[Anonymous No.10474418]

>>10474301
>linear algebra in middle school
Is it ironic and I'm too autistic to notice or is it true?

[Anonymous No.10474421]

>>10474418
Basic linear algebra and algebra are taught in the same class in America

[Anonymous No.10474437]

>>10474421
Really? Vector-spaces are taught in uni here, it's really hard to believe that american kids know that but don't what an integral is

[Anonymous No.10474447]

>>10474437
They don't. We're taught only the most basic introduction. What a matrix is, how they are used with regard to solving systems of equations, Gaussian elimination, and Cramer's Rule. That's about it.

[Anonymous No.10474450]

Replace PE with a class exclusively based on building MUSCLE instead of mindless stupid running or soccer

[Anonymous No.10474453]

>>10473984
Rent it so you can go anywhere you want
You'll always find some cuck to fall for it

[Anonymous No.10474960]

>>10474043
We learned how to write checks in 3rd grade

[Anonymous No.10475024]

>>10473303
It's 2017 get rid of liberals

[Anonymous No.10475028]

>>10473501
Thats strange. My algebra 2 was linear equations, my favorite and what i believe to be the most applicable to life. Tbh, if they do get rid of a subject get rid of art

[Anonymous No.10475139]

>>10473303

And get rid of the Reading requirement. Siri can read anything, why should a student waste time learning this archaic skill.

[Anonymous No.10475149]

>>10473303
>(taking out a loan)
not even [CURRENT_YEAR] gets me as mad as fucking (loans)

[Anonymous No.10475153]

>>10473303
1: Hire as many teachers as possible.
2: Reduce the size of classes to about 12 students each. Each class enters and graduates the school as their class group.
3: Separate genders.
4: Separate IQs into like groups.
5: Focus on vocational education and real world interactions with apprenticeships.
6: Focus on dietary, social, mental, sexual, economical, and physical healths.
7: Setup inter-class competition.
8: Vocational field trips are 3 times a week.
9: Class-based education is the first half of each day. Apprenticeships are the second half of each day.
10: No summer vacation. Week-long vacations occur quarterly through the year.
11: Graduation is panel-based with face-to-face interaction with staff.
12: Failures are reeducated in areas they failed in with maintenance education in everything else.

[Anonymous No.10475163]

>>10473303
My highschool had a mandatory personal finance class and required study halls that taught lessons on how to apply for colleges, no math sacrificed. Do these people not choose their own classes?

[Anonymous No.10475305]

>>10473501
Shit bruh, in my algebra 2 class all I ever learned was polynomials and crap and I got a 98. Are you asian or something?

[Anonymous No.10475308]

>>10473937
This but unironically.

[Anonymous No.10475321]

>>10473303
I wanna get rid of that girl. She's probably not doing well in her school and found an escape shit to fill the void of her failures in Algebra. Though it is not a bad idea, students should at least understand the importance of these fundamental subjects (like Algebra), mental juggle trains the mind to have an analytical and critical thinking. Sharp judgment too - that everything outcome is backed with a systematic solution. Dumb hoe.

[Anonymous No.10475450]

>>10475028
>>10475305
At my school the Honors Algebra II and Precalc were typically harder than the AP Calc courses because the teachers were basically given free reign to go overboard and push the students to there absolute limit (pun intended). We had a really good math department; the AP Calc and Stats scores are overwhelmingly 4s and 5s and are among the top in the state, despite being from an otherwise average public high school with a student population of over 2200.

[Anonymous No.10475623]

>>10473303
You can learn all of that with a handful of google searches. If normies are really so stupid that they need it spoonfed to them in school, make it a one off class, like when the teacher puts a condom on a banana in the hopes that Kwaylon D'Tyrone doesn't leave Brandylinn pregnant

[Anonymous No.10475634]

>>10473303
capitalist drone shithead

[Anonymous No.10475747]

>>10473501
University
>go to class 2-3 hours a day
>lectures are packed with content
>expected to learn that content very intimately
>spend several more hours a day studying
>become a smarter as a consequence
>people who get what they are supposed to do are considered some of the smartest people around

High School
>school for 7 hours a day
>presented with material 1/3 of that seen by university students
>not expected to know as much and as in-depth
>minimal home work
>hurr durr students are brainlets we need to give them more relevant subject matter
Yes. Clearly we need to remove these useless subjects. Changing the expectations of students will definitely not help.

When I thought about how much time I spend in class and then how much I spend doing independent studying, I realized that K-12 is just day care, even at the higher 9-12 grades where students are taught more complex things. Srsly. If you are forced to be in school for 7 hours a day, there is no reason for you to be a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10475770]

Can we talk about how this bimbo's idea of a disposable class is really just her least favorite/hardest class in normal highschool.

[Anonymous No.10475867]

>>10475747
>implying there's that big of a difference between HS and an undergrad degree
>implying everyone has equal learning capabilities and HS should follow a common curriculum designed for smart people

Both HS and university programs should be flexible and adaptable depending on the student's capabilities and interests. Today's technology allows for that: you can have an HS class of 20 students doing MOOCs while a teacher supervises and guides them. If a student wants to be a cinematographer why can't he start learning about cameras and composition from age 15 instead of having to deal with a crab-paced math course he has no interest in.

I'm not saying students should spend all day doing MOOCs, but something like 2h a day while 4h are common mandatory classes. Maybe have a progressive integration where they start at 1h a day-age 13 and end with up to 4h a day age 18.

This also helps students understand that they can learn whatever they want to on their own, and it can be fun.

[Anonymous No.10475877]

Saw this all over my fb. Only posted by girls who literally dont do shit and are born rich.

[Anonymous No.10475888]

>>10475867
Maybe I didn't articulate myself well enough. I was trying to get across that secondary school is ineffective. I don't think that getting rid of classes should be the highest priority. I wouldn't get rid of math class for finance. They could do both. Students could also do film stuff too.

[Anonymous No.10475899]

fuck. Its sad that America the future of science in america is in jeopardy. Im in STEM now but I wont lie I got nearly all F's in highschool before I got sent to juvy and straightened out. And yeah it took a lot of effort to catch up in college. I had to take trig then precalc then calc. I did well but holy shit I wish I wasnt such a little shit back then and learned this in highschool.

Now that im in college and have taken these classes, I see how useful basic maths are. Calc pretty much carries over into every other class (even basic algebra). Chem and Physics is literally a breeze, and yeah I failed out of those back in HS because guess what, I didnt give a shit about math.

Anyways my point is that its sad that although our education has good potential its almost like were heading in a path where we let brainlets take charge of shit and its kinda scary. Like seriously is there another country that has rallies for "muh climate change is a hoax" and literal annual FLAT EARTH conventions?

[Anonymous No.10475931]

>>10473984
>not wanting to have complete freedom over a piece of land
>not wanting to have the capability of building various machines/contraptions
>wanting to live right beside a tone of people whom you have no connection to
>not wanting to integrate into a community and have a place to call home
>etc. etc. etc.

Having a house has millions of advantages. However, I do agree that living in a dense neighborhood such as the ones you find in suburbs could easily negate most of them.

[Anonymous No.10475941]

I wish my highschool had a programming elective that could be taken with the advance mathematics that I was forced to take. Now I'm slowly relearning all the things I forget from them while I'm teaching myself programming.

[Anonymous No.10475946]

>>10474233
well, although I do understand for Art, history definitely has useful applications. Recognizing patterns in human behaviour is important to distinguish certain ideas as good or bad, especially political ideas. For a democracy to work well, for the public to have a good sense of how humans behave is vital.

[Anonymous No.10475969]

>>10475308
are you a brainlet?

[Anonymous No.10475985]

>>10473937
This unironically

[Anonymous No.10476159]

>>10475305
His description sounds more like a "Pre-calc" class than Algebra II.

[Anonymous No.10476257]

>>10474048
Not literally plug your tax return into turbotax, but yeah for your personal returns its pretty much just copy and paste numbers from you're W-2 into turbotax's system. It gets more complicated if you have your own business, though.

[Anonymous No.10476265]

>>10474374
Like you've seen this exact thread before, with the exact same replies, maybe even months or years ago? And you remember all of them happening as you read it? If this applies to you, this phenomena is pretty widespread on 4chan. This website exists on a weird little 4D fold, causing this kind of thing to happen quite often. Other anons experience it, too.

[Anonymous No.10476270]

>>10476265
Try three weeks ago

[Anonymous No.10476273]

>>10476270
>>/sci/?task=search2&search_filename=20190316_200914.jpg

[Anonymous No.10476323]

>>10473523
Fuck that, how to eat with their mouths closed since that's so goddamn hard for the subhumans that infest my university's dining hall

[Anonymous No.10476356]

>>10473331
twitter whore REKT

[Anonymous No.10476421]

>>10476265
>Like you've seen this exact thread before, with the exact same replies, maybe even months or years ago? And you remember all of them happening as you read it?
I have this feeling with a lot of stuff
I feel like it will get worse the older I get the more old memories blend into new

[Anonymous No.10476436]

>>10473505
ask your parents. it's not the job of the teacher.

[Anonymous No.10476518]

>>10473505
are you fucking kidding me? i had to file taxes for my part time college job. took about 5 minutes to learn how to do it:
1. receive w2 in the fucking mail so you even if you didn't know you needed it or where to get it, you got a copy anyway
2. create a free turbotax account
3. follow the steps and don't get scammed into paying for anything from TT
fucking wow.
>B-BUT THERE'S MORE ONCE YOU GET MORE RESPONSIBILITIES AND MAKE MORE MONEY AND HAVE DEPENDENTS AND AND AND
No shit, just keep fucking following the steps. Turns out you don't fucking suddenly become a homeowner overnight, you gradually acquire more over time and WOAH YOU LEARN EACH NEW STEP INCREMENTALLY TOO? HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHO DESIGNED THIS SYSTEM IT'S GENIUS

[Anonymous No.10476535]

>>10475153
We could afford to do it too.

[Anonymous No.10476540]

>>10476436
I have no parents, what now, bigot?

[Anonymous No.10476619]

>>10475153
>8: Vocational field trips are 3 times a week.
>9: Class-based education is the first half of each day. Apprenticeships are the second half of each day.
thats a fucking awful idea

[Anonymous No.10476656]

>>10473303
Algebra 2 is useless. Teach trig earlier in pre algebra and algebra 1. Get students to do geometry and the rudiments of proofs earlier. Do a topics class in combinatorics. That's how I'd change it up. It teaches the fundamentals, but all of what you learn is immediately motivated. Just get rid of algebra 2. It's a useless class made to beat out repetitious examples.

[Anonymous No.10476660]

>>10473501
>Algebra II at my high school was the hardest math class I ever took
You haven't taken hard math classes.

[Anonymous No.10476674]

>>10473303
Hello, sir,

I learn more from this YouTube channel than at school xD

[Anonymous No.10476809]

There is literally a graduation requirement class called "Personal Finance" and you learn literally all of this shit
Even my backwater shithole public high school required it

[Anonymous No.10476810]

I just wonder how long it takes for those normies to understand at what point in digitalization. It's 2019 and people still think that the children in school today will have a comparable situation regarding the job market as we have it today (with changes already observable)

[Anonymous No.10476816]

>>10473303
there's a law class now in high school
that's fucked man

[Anonymous No.10477344]

>>10473331
>replace English with a class that teaches you how to write emails and application letters.
Its called Technical Writing and is a thing if were a Science or Engineering major.

[Anonymous No.10477492]

>>10473303
Just get rid of schools and use the funding you save to give everyone $2000 a month

[Anonymous No.10477836]

>>10473303
Good idea. Instead of teaching children general knowledge that they can use to apply to the specifics of their every day life in any way they choose, or so they can find what they enjoy and focus their efforts in competing in such a field to enhance it is some innovative way, we should just teach them exactly what they need to know for their government mandated job so they can excel at exactly what they are told to excel at and have no risk of failure.

It's 2019. If you can't figure out Google well enough to figure out how to pay your taxes because you are too busy dicking around on social media then nothing can help you. Stop blaming your public education for your lack of interest in your own well being. The solutions to these simple problems are only a single internet search engine query away and if you can't internalize the information you find it is because you skipped too many classes thinking they'd be useless.

[Anonymous No.10477841]

>>10473469
More like "you won't, you'll probably pay someone else to use it for you"

[Anonymous No.10477846]

>>10473505
Ya cuz it isn't like there is a shit ton of help available explaining how to do that shit. I mean it's not like the government actually wants you to figure out how to pay them.

[Anonymous No.10477856]

>>10477836
Yeah I'm not even that smart and I figured how to do all that shit. You can literally just pay people to help you out until you can do it on your own. Honestly I wish I payed better attention in algebra 2 instead of fucking off. All these "useful" skills are just baseline tasks that you'll learn with life experience and it's just another way to glorify ignorance.
>Hurp durp when did math start having letters lol
>That's not accounting I'll never use it :^)
It's just an excuse to be lazy.

[Anonymous No.10479138]

>>10473469
retards need to realize that learning more abstract math in high school allows kids to pick any field they want to study in and helps their problem solving skills.

[Anonymous No.10479156]

>>10474223
my school had "math for the trades"

[Anonymous No.10479157]

>>10479156

it was "applied math" when i took it. several classes were held outdoors.

[Anonymous No.10479158]

>>10474233
Even without specific real world applications, history and art are still culturally and intellectually valuable.

[Anonymous No.10479163]

>>10479158
>history and art are still culturally and intellectually valuable.

no they're not. they're both full of contrived nonsense and falsehoods.

[Anonymous No.10479166]

>>10473303
i mean she isnt wrong...

how many of you monkeys actually need to know how to do algebra anyways? you would all be better off knowing how to balance a checking account and take out a loan, and what a credit score is.

[Anonymous No.10479171]

>>10479158

[Anonymous No.10479176]

>>10479163
history & geography teach students about humanity's past mistakes, their origins, and different ways of life across the globe. art & music teach kids not to be boring robotic losers unable to appreciate culture, even if I do think they should be harder and go more in depth.

[Anonymous No.10479181]

>>10479171
t. unsophisticated culturelet

[Anonymous No.10479184]

>>10479176
>history & geography teach students about humanity's past mistakes

oy vey, lest we forget

[Anonymous No.10479187]

>>10479184
I had communism in mind, but sure, that too.

[Anonymous No.10479195]

>>10479187

it's propaganda. you know it, i know it. come on now.

[Anonymous No.10479197]

>>10479195

[Anonymous No.10479198]

>>10479197

use your words

[Anonymous No.10479202]

>>10479198
no need to

[Anonymous No.10479204]

>>10479202

gonna paint me a picture?

[Anonymous No.10479209]

>>10479204
can't paint, guess my art classes weren't good enough

[Anonymous No.10479212]

>>10479209

please don't be a fag. being a fag is not okay.

[Anonymous No.10479216]

>>10479212
why the homophobia?

[Anonymous No.10479219]

>>10474119
You aren't allowed to bc twitter

[Anonymous No.10479221]

>>10479216

what i am saying anon, is that you are being difficult for the sake of being difficult. willful ignorance is a horrible personality trait.

[Anonymous No.10479225]

>>10476809
Your school required it bc it was a backwater shithole

[Anonymous No.10479226]

>>10479181
>actually using unsophisticated
kill yourself
you have no personality

[Anonymous No.10479227]

>>10479221
nigger, being a fucking history-denier and going against every credited historian I've ever heard of is a "horrible personality trait."

[Anonymous No.10479231]

>>10473303
Math classes are IQ test in disguise.

[Anonymous No.10479237]

>>10479227

i don't deny the history, but i don't trust it either, and i think the natural sciences and math are far more worthwhile pursuits.

[Anonymous No.10479239]

>>10479226
I have plenty of personality. I also have interests in and outside of the realm of arts. I know I'm acting condescending, but that's because you are a faggot.

[Anonymous No.10479250]

>>10479237
great, people shouldn't blindly trust everything they're told. doesn't mean that students shouldn't be taught about things like the Cambodian Genocide or the American Revolution.

[Anonymous No.10479262]

>>10479250

i often get the sense i'm being steered in the wrong direction. religion, history, arts, contemporary culture. they're all designed to take your eye off the ball. what can you trust besides your own powers of observation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOofKsny66o

[Anonymous No.10479271]

even most of the work i'm told to do now seems like pointless drudgery. busywork to keep me occupied.

[Anonymous No.10479278]

>>10479262
they weren't designed for anything, schizo

[Anonymous No.10479283]

>>10479278

you're an idiot or you're taking the piss.

[Anonymous No.10479285]

>>10479239
>but that's because you are a faggot.
thats rich

just because you like something, that doesn't mean its valuable, ok princess?

[Anonymous No.10479292]

>>10479283
all those things gradually evolved over an immense amount of time. modern religion and art aren't things that were fucking planned out on a chalkboard. take any high school social studies class and you will learn about how religion and culture evolved over time into what they are now. I cannot believe that people can read this shit that you are typing and still not think that we need history classes.

[Anonymous No.10479298]

>>10479285
I would debate on art being valuable, but to say that history classes aren't valuable is just retarded.

[Anonymous No.10479301]

>>10479292

modern religion is designed to damage the faculty of causal reasoning in children and the CIA sabotaged modern art. these are facts.

[Anonymous No.10479305]

>>10479301
either I've been severely baited or I'm talking to a retard

[Anonymous No.10479310]

>>10479305

i don't really know about the CIA, but the former is true. same with religion's cool, modern counterparts like free will and physics bullshit like the double-slit experiment.

[Anonymous No.10479314]

>>10479310
>the former is true
modern religion has become its modern state through a gradual and well documented change in people's lifestyles, morals, and interactions with other groups.
>physics bullshit like the double-slit experiment
what would motivate someone to fake that?

[Anonymous No.10479316]

>>10479298
>but to say that history classes aren't valuable is just retarded.
defending something you have no knowledge of is far more retarded
you can't actually think that history classes are honest portrayals of history, do you?

[Anonymous No.10479317]

>>10479314

then why are there always threads up about free will? why is it the latest popsci craze?

[Anonymous No.10479322]

>>10479316
for the most part they are, except for some biases such as the Japanese refusing to acknowledge shit like the Rape of Nanking and the U.S.'s America-centric teaching of history. It's a lot better than not being taught anything.

[Anonymous No.10479328]

>>10475153

fuck off

[Anonymous No.10479330]

>>10479317
Because people have stopped blindly believing in religion due to the lack of evidence and now seek an explanation for why they exist.

[Anonymous No.10479334]

>>10479330

you do a really great "normie" impression. kudos.

[Anonymous No.10479347]

>>10479334
are you referring to my lack of faith in religion? to be clear, I'm open to ideas of religion and I think the free will, consciousness, etc. threads are retarded. I believe that man is matter--no more.

[Anonymous No.10479363]

>>10479347

the promotion of "free will" is intentional misdirection. it damages the faculty of causal reasoning, probably very badly in some cases.

[Anonymous No.10479387]

>>10479330
>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.10479394]

>>10479387

[Anonymous No.10479428]

>>10473934
Very Nice

[Anonymous No.10479464]

Replace social studies with an in-depth race realism class.

[Anonymous No.10479509]

>>10473303
XD

[Anonymous No.10479729]

>>10477344
Real talk though, no one takes that shit seriously. Especially in college.
It needs to be taught in high school.

[Anonymous No.10479755]

>>10473454
Based

[Anonymous No.10479806]

The UK has a system that allows way more specialisation, but enables complete brainlets to exist in society.

It is perfectly average, in the UK, to not know maths past basic trigonometry. Seriously, they can just about solve quadratic simultaneous equations. Some of them don't even "get" multiplication, let alone indices.

Yet they'll all pretend to be superior to Americans.
My nation has fallen a long way.

[Anonymous No.10479814]

>>10479755
this pic shows a trace of linear time
THROW EYES AROUND THIS PICTURE FOCUSING ON EYES OF FOCAL POINT. THIS LINE GENERATION IS LINEAR TIME AT IT'S MAX. YOU CAN INSTALL A MIND COMPUTER USING THIS KIND OF LINEAR TIME. UNFORTUNATELY THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THROWING YOUR EYES UP THE CURRENT FOCUSING ON THE FOCAL POINTS EYES AND CREATING DRAFT.

[Anonymous No.10479882]

>>10479231
Not in US high schools. Even AP calc teaches everything as a procedure the most thinking you'll have to do is a "clever" change of variables.

[Anonymous No.10479911]

>>10479814
I know

[Anonymous No.10480422]

>>10479158
>art
>culturally and intellectually valuable

[Anonymous No.10480425]

>>10480422
>t. STEM-virgin who now flips patties for a living

[Anonymous No.10480445]

>>10480425
Great, and what use does art have?

Physics?

[Anonymous No.10480468]

>>10480445
Hm I wonder who designs the advertising that you see all around you, the clothes you wear, the music you listen to ... basically everything that surrounds you.
Probably someone with a physics degree, r-r-right?

[Anonymous No.10480482]

>>10480468

The music doesn't have to do with art.
Anyway, yeah sure, advertising and clothes, do you think they paint that?
No, digital design.
Unless you're doing art for the sole purpose of advertising or clothing design, all you're doing is absolutely worthless.

[Anonymous No.10480499]

>>10480482
I'm pretty sure music is considered a subset of art ...
>Unless you're doing art for the sole purpose of advertising or clothing design, all you're doing is absolutely worthless
>worthless
Oh yeah like those billion dollar movies

[Anonymous No.10480502]

>>10473303
> Teach kids about credit
> taking out a loan
Yes, let's brainwash an entirely new generation to become completely dependent on the mercy of Wells-Fargo and JP Morgan-Chase..

I mean, it's not like the world will ever have another economic recession, right? Stupid thot.

[Anonymous No.10480531]

It's 2019...elementary education in music, poetry, and physical training, two to three years of mandatory military training, ten years of mathematical science, five years of dialectic training, and fifteen years of practical political training.

[Anonymous No.10480533]

>>10480499
Animation does not equal art, nor does acting.

[Anonymous No.10480557]

>>10473303
Why did you make this thread again?

[Anonymous No.10480560]

>>10480533
Don't think so desu