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Does infinity actually exist?

>> No.10467446

huh?

>> No.10467449

Nope.

>> No.10467452

>>10467445
The universe is infinite according to standard physics.

>> No.10467455

>>10467446
Is infinity a man mad construct or does it exists in the physical world

>> No.10467456

>>10467455
huh?

>> No.10467460
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>>10467456

>> No.10467463

>>10467455
English please

>> No.10467469

>>10467445
Assume we envision infinity, not as a dot, or a whole, but a hole. This whole hole hauls all available space down inside it. We can extrapolate that so long as there is a perfect right angle for this material that it will never touch. Therefore the hole itself is infinite so long as the prerequisite is met.

>> No.10467531

>>10467469
huh?

>> No.10467532
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10467532

Numbers don't exist

>> No.10467550

>>10467445
you cant prove that anything exists a priori

>> No.10467560

The only infinity that exists is an infinity of 0 wich is 0.

>> No.10467563

>>10467560
Huh?

>> No.10467577

>>10467531
I think he's talking about the universe existing in a "lack of null" in a null space.

>> No.10467593

>>10467445
Let me check.


What is its category?

>> No.10468581

>>10467455
Two mirrors facing each other is the only “physical” form of infinity in the tangible world (that we know of )

>> No.10468679

>>10467445
yes, objects get from A to B all the time

>> No.10468683

>>10468581
It isn't infinity...

>> No.10468684

Infinity is a rest in math like it is music

>> No.10468724

>>10468581
Pulled that straight out of your ass. Eventually the photons will all be lost, hence why they grow darker...
Brainlet.

>> No.10468756

>>10467445
Does the question really make sense?
1. Yes.
2. No.
(Hint: there's one correct answer, and it's not the first one)

>> No.10468760

>>10467445
zoinks

>> No.10468786

>>10467445
For whole life, I was thinking, that it doesn't.

Then I used my faggot meter on OP and there it goes. Fucking infinity in real life.

>> No.10468825

>>10468786
>>10468756
>>10468679

I thought /sci/ was smarter than this...

>> No.10468830

>>10467445
Yes infinity is used very frequently in our models.

>> No.10468851

Ye

>> No.10468995

>>10468825
>i have no argument

>> No.10469004

>>10467445
Physically, no
Mathematically, yes in a "limited" way

>> No.10469075

>>10468724
>the type of mirrors/glass used in the experiments is not the same thing as those two old mirrors facing each other in that hotel lobby down the street...

>> No.10469277

>>10468995
> I have no answer so I must shitpost

>> No.10469287

literal riemann sums

>> No.10469294

>>10469075
retard

>> No.10469297

>>10469277
answer to what?
I could answer to an argument, but there wasn't one.

>> No.10469372

>>10468825
You think talking about limits that normal people learn at 17 is smart?

>> No.10469497

>>10469075
Who are you quoting?

>> No.10469509

If the curvature of our universe is plane, then, our universe has infinity space, therefore, infinity exists

>> No.10469520

>>10469509
If we continue spending time on if, we won't even get out of solarsystem until we self destruct... Therefore you're argument is invalid, because space that exist but you can no way access is wrothless and not even there.

>> No.10469633

>>10467445
Not in the way most people think of it as. In fact, it's impossible to truly describe or think what "infinity" refers to because "it" is out of the scope of language.

It's the exact same issue with the concept of "nothing", you cannot think or describe what "nothing" is, because the very act of doing so is something. You cannot think or describe what "infinity" is, because the very act of doing so turns it into something which is finite.

>> No.10469639

>>10469633
You can describe nothing because describing is something? Like really? You can't describe shit because of some super linglual platonic world entanglement that happens out of your arse?

>> No.10469678

>>10469297
Answer to the op? there is no argument to be had.

>> No.10469685

>>10469639
Any description will ultimately be flawed, it can only be "understood" superficially in the context of something being absent.

The moment you say "nothing IS...", you turn it into something. Unless you can describe "nothing"? Good luck.

>> No.10469707

>>10469685
Yes, nothing is when something isn't.

Doesn't sounds hard, it's correct and 7 year old kids who doesn't have to overthink everything understand it. It works until you get to retire and it's ultimate definition of nothing.

Main problem is that nothing is not opposite of something. And something can be nothing.

e.g.
-I'm studying philosophy.
-That's nothing bro, I've already got job as burger flipper without studying.

Talks about nothing are still nothing, as it doesn't contriute value, because your logic obviously miss the fact it's just handle, therefore it has to be something.

>> No.10469718

No shit. Nothing refers to empty space or empty set, because it NO-THINK lack of space would be NO-SPACE and space is not a thing but coordinate system.

Light propagates in luminescent eather and not in coordinate system.

Life's hard.

>> No.10469734

>>10469707
>Yes, nothing is when something isn't.
This is the superficial understanding of "nothing" I've already mentioned. Your description of "nothing" requires "some thing". That is not pure nothingness.
>-That's nothing bro, I've already got job as burger flipper without studying.
Fallacy of equivocation. You're using "nothing" as a figure of speech.

Tell me what the opposite of "everything" is.

>> No.10469749

its nonsense to think about infinity, our brains are unable to get an image of infinity. reality is more complex than our brains are able to think about

>> No.10469753

>>10467445
It's your mother's radial coordinate

>> No.10469766

>>10469734
Everything made out of antimatter.

>> No.10469770

>>10469734
Everything is just concept, there's no such thing as everything. You can map opposite to each member of a group, but resulting group is far from empty.

There could be inverse group, but again, not nothing.

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>>10469734
Also please, give me one situation I can work with nothing, besides linguistic act I prefer to work with something for obvious reasons.

It's like 0, when distance from 0 is 0 then it's 0. Distance is non. This identity is nothingness in one of it's form.

You may be looking for quantitative inverse of everything.

As Jedi I prefer to nothing not being absolute, but just a handle, reference, pointer or whatever to something absent.

>"I need something to nothing"
Well, I need myself to even think about it and that denies absolute nothingness.

In platonic world nothing is just absence.

In real world nothing is what I imagine when somebody asks me to imagine your sexual life. Contribution to community and general usability of your ideas.

>> No.10469802

>>10469766
There was an attempt.

>> No.10469809

>>10469770
Exactly my point. You cannot describe what "everything" is, because it can't be a "thing", just like you can't describe what "nothing" is, because it can't be a "thing".

>> No.10469820

>>10469809
Everything is set that contains every element.
No thing is set that does not contain any element.

It's simple to define. But trust whatever you want.

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>>10467445
it would literally take forever to measure something infinite. you would never be able to tell in your life time with the tools we currently have. its possible tho.

>> No.10470369

>>10467452
>according to standard physics.
>according to *our current best theories*
ftfy

>> No.10470440

>>10467452
It's not, AFAIK. At best you can say it appears to be flat (like the Earth on a small scale), and even if it is globally flat it could be toroidal (think Pacman screen) which also has zero curvature.

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10470447

>>10467445
Yes. Love is infinite.

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10470452

>>10470447
I never asked for these feels.

>> No.10470461

>>10467445

For how long will I remain dead after I die?

Infinite time. Exactly.

/thread

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10470486

/sci/ is simply unprecedented in it's users ability to exchange profound ideas. Truly intellectual powerhouses the likes of Chomsky and Aristotle.

>> No.10470495

>>10470486
this is the worst board

>> No.10470791

>>10470486
>Chomsky
>intellectual powerhouse

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>>10470461
nope, it will only be a real number no matter how big it gets

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10470985

Infinity can only exist in this universe if we live in an open universe. If you could mathematically prove infinity does or doesn't exist, then could you prove whether the universe will end or not?

>> No.10471007

>>10470495
>this is the worst board
/x/ is way faggier

>> No.10471196

>>10470440
the universe is shaped like an extra large pancake

>> No.10471212

>>10471196
The universe is shaped like unlimited pancakes at ihop

>> No.10471241

threadly reminder that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

>> No.10471331

Speed of light: 3.0 x 10^8 m/s
Size of universe: 93 gly (billion light years)
Age of universe: 13.772 gy (billion years)
?????????
The physics doesn’t make sense.
Space can travel faster than the speed of light

>> No.10471345

I reason that infinity does exist.

Suppose it doesn't. That is, the universe is discrete (i.e. there exists a smallest interval in space and time), and more importantly, space and time stop at some boundary - it's finite. Then there is "emptiness" surrounding spacetime. But emptiness is infinite in its nothingness, and thus infinity exists in some form.

>> No.10471359

>>10471345
Why are you assuming our universe isn't a part of a vast cellular network composing the body of a titan?

>> No.10471365

Yes, there is literally a giant infinity symbol floating somewhere in deep space.
brainlet.

>> No.10471369

But seriously, no it doesnt. Its a tool of mathematical reasoning, just like how you cant say "do integrals exist" or "do limits exist"

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>>10471365

>> No.10471377

>>10471376
You just KNOW.

>> No.10471390

>>10467445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WL_vtu4r1w

>> No.10471633

>>10471377
thot referring to the inifinite dicks she takes

>> No.10472183

>>10471241
false

>> No.10473587

Is anything in the universe truly analogue. is anything infinitely divisible, could i go the speed of π?

>> No.10473597

>>10467445
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_universe_hypothesis

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>>10467445
It certainly exists as a concept. Whether it can physically exist may depend on how you define "physically".

>> No.10474760

>>10470979
You can always pick any real number inside infinity as well. 1 is a number in infinity. So is 99999.

I will still remain dead for an infinite amount of time - There will not be a time in the future that I will come back to life. Hence, infinite. Was that so hard? Unless 2nd law of thermo is broken, which means I'm certainly looking forward to waking back up!

>> No.10474844

>>10467445
it does and it is -1/12

>> No.10475094

>>10467445
Just count to infinity to find out

>> No.10475107

>>10467445
I doubt it. I feel like nothing in our universe is infinite

>> No.10475110

>>10474760
>inside infinity
cookedbrain nonsense babble

>> No.10475121

>>10474760
each and every moment in the future will be just a real number amount of time from now, you can't countyour way up to infinity

>> No.10475133

It does. Somewhere out there in the aether, inaccessible to empirical scrutiny.

>> No.10475141

>>10474844
Brainlet

>> No.10475186

>>10470440
Flat+homogenous+simply connected

>> No.10475201

>>10467445
OP is infinitely faggot