/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10454638]

How can there be people who still doubt evolution?

What would you say to them?

[Anonymous No.10454656]

>>10454638
>What would you say to them?

Stop being a fedora and acknowledge the living truth

[Anonymous No.10454669]

Why would I even speak to those subhumans.

[Anonymous No.10454677]

>>10454656
/thread

[Anonymous No.10454679]

>>10454656
Why would god create?

[Anonymous No.10454682]

>>10454638
How can there be people who still doubt race realism? It's an inconvenient truth.

[Anonymous No.10455200]

>>10454638
its really not a big deal as long as they don't try and say they're right

btw evolution is still a theory, this is important because if we consider it fact without observing it then it undermines the scientific method. if we took darwins theory of evolution as fact (which many did) we'd have a lot of issues.

[Anonymous No.10455391]

>>10455200
this

daily reminder gravity is just a theory

[Anonymous No.10455407]

>>10454679
So that he can later destroy

[Anonymous No.10455419]

>>10455200
>btw evolution is still a theory, this is important because if we consider it fact without observing it then it undermines the scientific method. if we took darwins theory of evolution as fact (which many did) we'd have a lot of issues.

You have absolutely no idea what evolution or a scientific theory is. Please relocate to a different board. We observe evolution literally daily.

[Anonymous No.10455438]

>>10454638
I don't speak to the constituent cells of my species gestalt.

[Anonymous No.10455464]

>>10454638

I doubt evolution because I don't want to handwave away philosophical questions with science of the gaps.

[Anonymous No.10455473]

>>10455464
>nothing in biology makes sense except through the lense of evolution
- Theodosius Dobzansky

[Anonymous No.10455481]

>>10455464
You mean true science?

[Anonymous No.10455584]

>>10455419
nigga even i learned that shit when in biology and i'm majoring in mechanical engineering

[Anonymous No.10455656]

>>10455464
“I doubt evolution”

Because you’re ignorant. Evolution is observed daily.

“ I don't want to handwave away philosophical questions with science of the gaps.”

Evolution is part of biology. It doesn’t deal with vague “philosophical questions”.

[Anonymous No.10455659]

>>10455200
One of the best theories in science thus far.
Stop encouraging believers of Abrahamic religion to take your point out of context and claim it as "just a theory so my religion is correct."

[Anonymous No.10455664]

>>10455584
“nigga even i learned that shit when in biology and i'm majoring in mechanical engineering”

What a horrid education system. Evolution is a phenomenon, not a theory. There are theories OF evolution such as Lamarckism, Darwinism, Neo-Darwinism, and the Modern Synthesis. Much in the same way gravity is a phenomenon with theories OF it. We observe evolution on the regular, it’s a thing, we know that for certain. The specifics of how it occurs are not fully fleshed out.

[Anonymous No.10455670]

>>10455659
>"does not follow"

[Anonymous No.10455686]

>>10455391
"gravity" is not a theory, it is an observable phenomenon. There are many theories that attempt to explain gravity.

You're probably trolling but you might just be that stupid - either way, neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.10455692]

>>10455584
You're a STEM student and still you don't even know what 'theory' means (?!)

[Anonymous No.10455800]

[Anonymous No.10455803]

[Anonymous No.10455806]

[Anonymous No.10455810]

>>10455800
>Nearly all experts agree Lucy was just a three foot tall chimpanzee

Nope. This bait is so bad.

[Anonymous No.10455813]

>>10455806
Irreducible complexity was demolished as a concept in court over fifteen years ago, and even mousetraps were shown to not be irreductibly complex.

[Anonymous No.10455814]

>>10455803
Nope. Evolution does not deal with bakery.

Loving the Facebook boomer memes though.

[Anonymous No.10455914]

Breed some bacteria to be resistant to a certain antibiotic, wala, you just proved evolution.

[Anonymous No.10456172]

>>10455914
>wala
kill yourself, my man

[Anonymous No.10456212]

>>10454638
I met a person who didn't believe in evolution once. Southern Baptist. He just didn't want to talk about it. That's the real strategy: rather than construct a coherent counterargument (impossible), just teach children that even thinking about it is a sin.

[Anonymous No.10456264]

>>10454638
"Big Mac and a coffee to go, please"

[Anonymous No.10456285]

>>10454679
Because he said it was good? And the sum of it all, very good.

[Anonymous No.10456287]

>>10456212
This is what I tell me kids for climate change. Just ignore any deniers opinion and don't waste your time dealing with them. We are on the right side of science. They aren't. It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.10456292]

I don't waste my time arguing with people about anything anymore. Just believe whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.10456563]

>>10454638
Imagine believing in evolution in 2019

[Anonymous No.10456598]

>>10455656
>>10455664
>>10455686
>retards that don't understand what evolution means in this context
Nobody is disputing that genetic change occurs, just the extent to which it occurs. Here's a phd astrophysicist giving a presentation on the creationist perspective on evolution
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yWXVCJqnNYg

[Anonymous No.10456628]

>>10456287
I bet you believe you don't hold any dogmatic beliefs

[Anonymous No.10456641]

itt: college students getting mad defending evolution from the truth

[Anonymous No.10456715]

Many people are still in their formative years and have not 'reached a conclusion' on their own on this subject yet. Many of them come from conservative families and by the end they will have gone through this transition by reading, re-reading, watching lectures and debates and arguing with others, namely on the internet. It's been around since the days of usenet. So take it easy on them...

[Anonymous No.10456722]

>>10454679
For His own glory

[Anonymous No.10456760]

>>10455813
Sauce?

Afro-engineering doesn't count, either. If you discount the fact that evolution is blind then you argue against your own point. If we make concessions and agree that evolution has some degree of intelligence to it, then we can concede that the design of nature itself is therefore intelligent and so must be creation, no? And thus intelligent design is no far departure from the truth, but simply a different albeit fantastical, interpretation of the theory itself.

[Anonymous No.10456763]

>>10454638

How can there be people who think evolution stops at the neck?

What would you say to them?

[Anonymous No.10456955]

>>10455803
I mean this is possible, but you have to use the crashed ingredients over and over again and then u will create somesort of cake yes

[Anonymous No.10456989]

to deny evolution you will first need some sort of evidence towards a creator


most people say god created us and is all knowing etc..
which means god shouldnt make bad designs.

Yet people obviously have bad designs tha t are obviously just random errors in genetic reproduction systems. Like why do I breath and eat through the same tube? Seems kinda stupid and causes death when other animals dont do this lmao, is god retarded ?

[Anonymous No.10457031]

>>10456989
>to deny evolution you will first need some sort of evidence towards a creator
Why? Existence itself is proof of a creator but why does one require evidence of alternatives to attack any perspective?
>Yet people obviously have bad designs
Said the creature, pretending to be equal to an infinite God

[Anonymous No.10457116]

>>10456989
> Like why do I breath and eat through the same tube?
t. mouth breather detected

[Anonymous No.10457118]

>>10457031
>>10457116
The fact that you deny there are such things as bad designs prove they are bad designs.

[Anonymous No.10457130]

>>10456598
>Nobody is disputing that genetic change occurs, just the extent to which it occurs.

It occurs to the extent that new species, reproductively isolated, form from ancestral populations. There is no limit to the amount of genetic change populations can undergo, sorry little one.

>Here's a phd astrophysicist

Not a biologist. Discarded. Cite a peer-reviewed paper disproving the hundreds of papers describing observed speciation events.

[Anonymous No.10457148]

>>10456760
>Sauce?

Never heard of the Dover trial? Wow.
https://ncse.com/library-resource/kitzmiller-v-dover-intelligent-design-trial

>Afro-engineering doesn't count, either.

No idea what that is, but if you mean creating new functional body parts from others with different purposes, there’s exactly what evolution does. That’s where panda thumbs, fish jaws, and flagella are from. Saying it “doesn’t count” is simply a lie of your own making. Sad.

>If you discount the fact that evolution is blind then you argue against your own point.

Never said it wasn’t.

>If we make concessions and agree that evolution has some degree of intelligence to it, then we can concede that the design of nature itself is therefore intelligent and so must be creation, no?

Never said it had any “intelligence” to it. You’re imagining a scenario that isn’t real.

>And thus intelligent design is no far departure from the truth, but simply a different albeit fantastical, interpretation of the theory itself.

Nope. It is a false model.

[Anonymous No.10457151]

>>10457031
>Why? Existence itself is proof of a creator

Prove it.

>Said the creature, pretending to be equal to an infinite God

Your “infinite God”, an incoherent idea itself, makes some shitty animals.

[Anonymous No.10457156]

I need to see it to believe it. Replicate it in an experiment.
No one even knew the electron existed for a while for example.
Big Bang Theory is just an observation. Have you been to where it started? How are you sure there isn't something you're missing like how people missed the electron?

[Anonymous No.10457171]

>>10457156
>I need to see it to believe it. Replicate it in an experiment

https://youtu.be/plVk4NVIUh8

Go to school.

>No one even knew the electron existed for a while for example.

Now we know it does, just like we know evolution exists.

>Big Bang Theory is just an observation. Have you been to where it started?

It didn’t “start anywhere” in particular. The observations we can make from right here are sufficient to determine that cosmic inflation accurately describes our reality.

>How are you sure there isn't something you're missing like how people missed the electron?

That’d be like us discovering all cats actually have five eyeballs and spit acid and no one noticed until now.

[Anonymous No.10457174]

>>10457156
>Replicate it in an experiment

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2017/11/27/study-darwins-finches-reveals-new-species-can-develop-little-two-generations

[Anonymous No.10457179]

>>10457171
>That’d be like us discovering all cats actually have five eyeballs and spit acid and no one noticed until now.
I like the open mindedness. I'm sure that's what people would say in the past if you brought up the idea of an electron.
>because no one noticed until now
No one even noticed the electron yet a lot of they were still able to perform their calculations

[Anonymous No.10457191]

>>10457179
>I like the open mindedness. I'm sure that's what people would say in the past if you brought up the idea of an electron.

Nope. Electrons are, in comparison to five cat eyes, not trivially observable.

>No one even noticed the electron yet a lot of they were still able to perform their calculations

What calculations? Of electromagnetic forces? Of mass? The only analog this would have in modern physics is dark matter and dark energy, and they fit snugly in the cosmic inflation model.

[Anonymous No.10457206]

>>10457191
When the electron was discovered, this allowed chemists to describe tchemical bonds. I'm sure there is something out there that can be found to describe the big bang in more depth and maybe prove some current theories wrong, assuming the big bang did actually happen. You just have a closed mind and just believe everything you read is fact.

[Anonymous No.10457244]

>>10457206
>I'm sure

What an odd admission of a faith-based position. You were trolling the whole time.

>I'm sure there is something out there that can be found to describe the big bang in more depth and maybe prove some current theories wrong

Never said there wouldn’t be. Why lie?

>You just have a closed mind and just believe everything you read is fact.

Why lie? Does it tickle your micropenis to be dishonest anonymously?

[Anonymous No.10457256]

>>10456628
Personally, although I hold many beliefs, I try to maintain a willingness to question them should compelling material evidence come forth. This is a sharp distinction to a person who regards the text of the Bible as unquestionable in the face of apparent reality.

[Anonymous No.10457271]

>>10457130
>Not a biologist
Yeah, I know that dumbass, my point was to keep you from handwaving him away as just some dumb layman who doesn't know what words mean. But keep telling yourself you're on the side of science and skepticism while refusing to even hear what the opposition believes.

[Anonymous No.10457275]

>>10457151
>Prove it.
No. You do not have the right to sit in judgement of your creator. You would not even be able to deny His existence unless the world obeyed His laws.
>an incoherent idea itself
Lol
>makes some shitty animals
Try to get your pea brain to recognize that God is significantly more superior to you than you are to a rock. Who are you to question His judgement?

[Anonymous No.10457283]

>>10457271
>Yeah, I know that dumbass, my point was to keep you from handwaving him away as just some dumb layman who doesn't know what words mean.

He’s not a biologist so quite frankly he is a dumb layman. Real life isn’t a TV show with that one “scientist” character who seemingly mastered in every field. Summarize whatever point you think he makes. If it’s “speciation doesn’t happen”, that’s just a lie and we can move on.

>But keep telling yourself you're on the side of science and skepticism while refusing to even hear what the opposition believes.

Aw, I’m not skeptical enough because I won’t waste over an hour watching an old man make false claims.

Does he
A. Deny evolution exists
Or
B. Deny speciation exists

Both are wrong, so please correct me if my guess was off. :-)

[Anonymous No.10457290]

>>10457275
>No. You do not have the right to sit in judgement of your creator.

Prove it

>You would not even be able to deny His existence unless the world obeyed His laws.

Prove it.

>Try to get your pea brain to recognize that God is significantly more superior to you than you are to a rock.

Prove it.

>Who are you to question His judgement?

I’m more concerned with questioning his supposed existence. Once you prove he exists, I can start talking about how stupid he is.

[Anonymous No.10457747]

>>10457290

[Anonymous No.10457836]

>>10457747
Aw, no argument from the retarded creationist. Typical.