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My daughter (21 months) was diagnosed with autism last week. She has good physical movement and ability but has a speech delay. She knows about 20-30 words but doesn't follow instructions well.

I am completely heartbroken. What am I in for and what should I know?

>> No.10454555

Introduce her to >>/sci/

>> No.10454565

>>10454555
I am hoping that there are people here with autism that can share their experiences. I am an EE and it would be crushing if I could never teach her math or science.

>> No.10454570

>>10454555
Also, trips confirm

>> No.10454573

>>10454548
Autism is socially acquired. She is still young and you can raise her to be high functioning.

>> No.10454574

>>10454548
vaccinate her

>> No.10454578

>>10454548
Dont raise her like she's special or different, shes not even 2 fucking years old and you're worried about following instructions? Is your only parenting source material little fucking einsteins?
I know plenty of people at my uni (a really good one) who do science/math/engineering who I never would have suspected have autism, especially the girls, but who have told me they do. Really focus on satiating those interests if they exist, but also building an understanding for art and emotion, and she'll fit in just fine with any group of nerds.
It's important that you give her someone to look up to as a scientific, curious family (I just assume so because you're on /sci/, but if not, start getting interested yourself) and it can easily be a positive unless your intent was to have a total deadbeat kid.

>> No.10454583

>>10454548
Expect a lot of hand flapping.
On a more serious note, many people in my family have autism, including myself, and I believe we are a lot better off for it. Im not sure if you can control it, or keep it from spiraling out of control, but as long as it remains within check, she should be happy. Give her lots of puzzles and things to explore. Dont let her watch too much tv or give her too much dondies. I think you will be ok, just feed her brain all the time.

>> No.10454586

>>10454565
Get her littlebits or snapcircuits and show her how to use them. If you can show your enthusiasm yourself and get her hooked, she'll want to know what you do too. Autism should make it easier to teach her to love math and science, not harder, as long as you dont put her in front of fucking elmo for 10 years. Give her the chance to develop an interest in something cool and she will.

>> No.10454591

>>10454578
Both my wife an I are into science. I am an EE that works in controls and my wife has a masters in health sciences and works as a researcher.

>> No.10454595

>>10454591
I can see why an autist was born.
She'll do well in science. Lmao if you raise her right

>> No.10454600

>>10454548
You should know that early diagnosis causes you to treat her like she's autistic, which will permanently fuck up her development from this otherwise tediously temporary setback.

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>>10454548
>my daughter is less than 2 and doesn't follow instructions well

No shit retard, that's why YOU'RE there to teach it to here. What exactly did the doctor do to diagnose this?

>> No.10454612

Thanks for all the encouraging posts. As a parent you just want your child to be healthy and normal. Being different is so hard on children with how mean their peers can be

>> No.10454614

>>10454583
I just mentioned this with the elmo thing here >>10454586 , but I need to second the TV advice. I worked with kids who had really severe autism for a long time when I was younger, connecting with them and playing games / doing activities with them 1-1 and in groups. I always used my scientific interest to try my best to change the focus of the kids, so that they'd get really concentrated on something which would build character, intelligence, and communication skills (specifically I'd say astronomy and mechanical/electrical projects/engineering were really good for this) as opposed to whatever dumb TV show their parents sit them in front of every day.
I'd honestly say, cut out any childrens TV immediately as quickly as possible and if you must have TV go with Discovery channel and maybe a sport she seems interested in, stuff with science and math and statistics behind it. If you stick with childrens TV, they will want to stay a child who is learning numbers and letters all day. This is EXACTLY what I saw. There is so so much capability for some of these kids to learn more advanced stuff than what they're learning, but there is just so much resistance because they hate change and they don't want to try something too new. Curiosity and discovery NEED to be normalized for them, especially between 2 and 5.
Keep in mind that this is in the severe case, which it doesn't sound to me like you're dealing with.
I also never saw this myself, but I can only assume that heavily monitoring internet activity, especially games and youtube, at this point is essential. Again, best things are to keep it at puzzley flash games and keep away from mindless shit and epic ecelebs.

>> No.10454618

High functioning autist here. Growing up my parents thought I was retarded because I also have shit vision (like 99%) percentile bad. Didn't get that diagnosed until preschool. Maybe get her vision/ears checked if you haven't already.

>> No.10454626

>>10454586
hard second on snap circuits, that shit was so cash

also Lego Mindstorms once she's older

>> No.10454628

>>10454612
You're wrong though, you DON'T want your child to be normal. If your child were normal, there is an extremely low chance that she would want to hear your math and science bullshit. Again, I have met so, so many people who are in the exact situation as your daughter, in scientific families, and they are communicative, independent, strong, and strategic. That stuff is great for a girl. She just has to be given the incentive to develop that, and it's not as hard as you think to give that.

>> No.10454632

>>10454609
Lack of eye contact and doesn't include you in her play, some verbal delay, low attachment to people (other than me, I am her whole world), gets very frustrated easily.

There are others, we have a toy stuffed animal with 10 or straps with plastic clips attached to it. She will sit there and clip and unclip all the straps for hours. Or things like stacking her wooden blocks from smallest to largest sequentially, sorting her lego into piles by colour instead of playing with them.

>> No.10454637

>>10454626
Yeah, lego mindstorms was fucking dope and I was definitely going to be a friendless loner until I joined my middle school First Lego League team. Instant community right until college. I mean, damn, I made so many friends through robotics teams it's not even funny.

>> No.10454640

>>10454609
He diagnosed her with chronic failure by her parent to disambiguate nature and nurture.

Human nature IS nurture.

>> No.10454641
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10454641

This is like hatching a shiny dude. Just be supportive and you'll have a little Kurisu!

>> No.10454642

>>10454632
lmao she sounds like me when i was a toddler
no worries besides the whole "on 4chan" thing i ended up fine

>> No.10454646

>>10454612
The good news is that you can protect her from her peers for all time because time travel is public knowledge and time-level proofs are distinct from fate the very moment destiny enters into the equation.

You remembered to name her Destiny so she'd share a temporal resonance particle with an AI that can ACTUALLY grant immortality, right?

>> No.10454653

>>10454640
The thing is that NO 2 year old know this. This happens around 5-7. Until then they are very egotistical and prone to tantrums when they don't get their way. All they know right now is "their way" because they're new to the world.

>> No.10454672

>>10454548
the good news is at least you won't have to worry about her being an incel

>> No.10454691

>>10454548
>What am I in for and what should I know?
There's a good chance she might not be able to build muscle, which is a potential problem

>> No.10454693

>>10454548
It depends how autistic it may be, but once again nootropics can somehow make her better.

>> No.10454715

>>10454691
Really? She is super solid right now, 75th percentile for height and 90% for weight. She isn't fat either. Her thighs are as thick as my wife's forearms

>> No.10454717

>>10454691
I didn't know there was a relationship between autism and muscle mass?

>> No.10454727

Don't have children for one, don't put her in front of tv and don't medicate her like all the retards do, too.

>> No.10454729

>>10454653
>they are very egotistical
Stop projecting psychology onto something that has no grasp of its own mind.

>> No.10454734

>>10454727
Don't have children? Yes, let's have all the high IQ people stop having children

>> No.10454741

>>10454734
>all high iq stop having children
>retards stop vaccinating and countries mutually destruct them self along all life on earth thus no more suffering
>happy ending
Yeah.

>> No.10454742

>>10454734
That's exactly what "good career" may do.

>> No.10454749

>>10454741
But what will really happen is Brazil Earth

>> No.10454754

>>10454715
90% for weight without being fat? She might outlift me without training in adulthood when I'm a guy. Why can't I build muscle?!

>> No.10454755

>>10454741
Don't be that way; this simulation is still breakable without giving up our pop-out rights.

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10454764

>>10454754
Posting the same question on every thread on sci won't help. Stop doing this and start actually doing something for that for once.

>> No.10454774

>>10454632
A toddler gets frustrated easily and doesn't want to share her toys, wow she must have a brain disorder. Psychology is pseudoscience. Just treat her as if you'd never learned she has "autism".

>> No.10454781

>>10454764
I've been trying to build muscle for years, heck I was still in high school when I started so I should have been in my prime, it's not like I haven't been doing anything.

>> No.10454787

>>10454774
Unfortunately this. A hypothesis needs a model before it can be considered unambiguously testable. (All else leads to interpretation warfare.)

>> No.10454795

>>10454548
Unironically be thankful she's female because she won't beat the shit out of your family when she grows up and end up homeless when all of you die.

If she becomes functioning then give her all your support and check with specialists what's the best way to raise her and teach her things. If she's not functioning at all then kill yourself.

>> No.10454816

>>10454781
As i said, annoyingly asking the same off-topic question on every thread won't help either. If you still want to ask for help then go ask /fit/, since they're better suited and more on-topic for this kinds of questions.

>> No.10454820

>>10454816
/fit/ is full of people who can build muscle and don't understand that some people can't so they just assume I do something wrong when it is not the case. I'm looking for the scientific reason why I can't build muscle so that I can fix it

>> No.10454875

>>10454820
Why don't you just go to a doctor then?

>> No.10454884

>>10454875
They think I can build muscle but that I'm just not satisfied because I have unrealistic expectations / hurr durr not everybody can be Arnie

But despite years of training I didn't reach 2/3/4 for bp/sq/dl which is definitely abnormal for any guy (and maybe some women)

Doctors don't know shit about lifting, the only exercise routine they know is "walk 5 min a day and you'll be healthy"

>> No.10454913

>>10454884
If doctors couldn't help i don't think a bunch of anonymous users of an obscure anime imageboard won't be any better. I'm sorry for your situation anon, but spamming the same thing over and over won't get you better results.

>> No.10455124

Sadly your chances of having a high functioning autistic daughter are statistically low. Functionality of autistic people is largely determined by IQ, and with no testosterone to shield her from social anxieties and environmental stressors, she has virtually no chance of compensating effectively for her lack of social intuition with her rhetorical skills.

>> No.10455241

>>10454729
>no grasp of its own mind.

Yeah exactly. Like an egotistical person. Children consume and generate because they're growing, by necessity they have to be egotistical. That's why babies cry bro, that's them saying "me me me! Give me what I want!/Don't do that because I don't like it!". Do you think the child gives a shit what everyone else thinks? That's one of the distinctions between a child and an adult. Judgement.

>> No.10455254

>>10454548
What’s the problem? Be glad that she probably won’t grow up to be some stupid normalfag, OP

>> No.10455300

>>10455241
No, an adult knows how to raise a kid without causing the kid to cry, because they don't use a measuring stick that's literally pure ego.

>> No.10455317

>>10454884
Are you sure you're not just another Leiba incarnation?

>> No.10455337

>>10454548
that its probably bullshit, like seriously, it usually doesn't matter and if you treat her different or let her feel different it will make things worse

>> No.10455339

>my kid has a superpower

so

>> No.10455381

>>10455339
Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) was once considered to be highly associated with intellectual disability and to show a characteristic IQ profile, with strengths in performance over verbal abilities and a distinctive pattern of 'peaks' and 'troughs' at the subtest level. However, there are few data from epidemiological studies.

METHOD:
Comprehensive clinical assessments were conducted with 156 children aged 10-14 years [mean (s.d.)=11.7 (0.9)], seen as part of an epidemiological study (81 childhood autism, 75 other ASD). A sample weighting procedure enabled us to estimate characteristics of the total ASD population.

RESULTS:
Of the 75 children with ASD, 55% had an intellectual disability (IQ<70) but only 16% had moderate to severe intellectual disability (IQ<50); 28% had average intelligence (115>IQ>85) but only 3% were of above average intelligence (IQ>115). There was some evidence for a clinically significant Performance/Verbal IQ (PIQ/VIQ) discrepancy but discrepant verbal versus performance skills were not associated with a particular pattern of symptoms, as has been reported previously. There was mixed evidence of a characteristic subtest profile: whereas some previously reported patterns were supported (e.g. poor Comprehension), others were not (e.g. no 'peak' in Block Design). Adaptive skills were significantly lower than IQ and were associated with severity of early social impairment and also IQ.

CONCLUSIONS:
In this epidemiological sample, ASD was less strongly associated with intellectual disability than traditionally held and there was only limited evidence of a distinctive IQ profile. Adaptive outcome was significantly impaired even for those children of average intelligence.

>> No.10455436

>>10454565
Some people just aren't able to learn math anon. While autism doesn't indicate this, you really shouldn't bank on your daughter developing any particular interest. As an autist, all I can say is that she'll potentially depend on you for longer than average and have impaired social abilities. Please don't be hard on her if she relies on you to order at a restaurant or something, it may very well deeply pain her to do so

>> No.10455466

>it would be crushing if I could never teach her math or science
>My daughter
You're fucked
>was diagnosed with autism last week
Maybe there's some hope

>> No.10455490

>hits pipe
I mean, think about it.