Med school in France

[Anonymous No.10430604]

Moving to France soon to study medicine.
Any frenchanons here to tell me what to expect?

[Anonymous No.10430612]

>>10430604
france is a fucking meme, stay away as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.10430616]

>>10430604
Lots and lots of cuties

also this guy >>10430612 is kind of right, just this year the governement fucked over lots of Universities, they cut lots of financement and it went into shit and it will only get worse

[Anonymous No.10430623]

>>10430616
not to mention now les etrangers have to pay more than they used to. The cuties are alot but I fuckign hate your language man, at first it sounded funny now it just feels gay, not to mention everyone trying to seem smart and intellectual.

[Anonymous No.10430626]

>>10430612
I got no other choice at the moment, everything is already booked and set.
But why would you say that?

[Anonymous No.10430631]

>>10430623
When you say les etrangers you mean everyone with a student residency permit (titre de sejour etudiant) ?

[Anonymous No.10430632]

>>10430623
>not to mention now les etrangers have to pay more than they used to
I remember a professor told me this and they will shut down lots of masters because they expect much less students, and also they fired lots of professors...

Out of all sectors and free social shit they give, they took the money from education, Macron is a fucking retard
Even my professor advised me to continue in Germany, over there they care about education

[Anonymous No.10430643]

>>10430626
well the degree you'll get at the end of your studies is considered something worldwide wise, but as someone who's been here for three years I can tell that most of the students who came here graduate without having the necessary minimum konwledge to actually get that degree. unless it's some prestigious ecole I would just stick with some community college back in the us, not to mention that the job market here is pretty saturated (and kind of racist to be honest) and the pay isn't that much even paying 40% in taxes in the us you'll find yourself with more money at the end of the month, that is if you're planing on finding some job here and not just studying.

[Anonymous No.10430655]

>>10430631
I mena everyone who's just coming in, the ones who are already here ne sont pas concernees. anyways I'm going out of this country in the summer.

>>10430632
what do you study may I ask?

[Anonymous No.10430659]

>>10430616

Well, the need for new doctors has decreased. Between longer working ages and new immigrant doctors who don't need any schooling to work, I am not surprised, but it is still a good career if you want to get into it.

[Anonymous No.10430673]

>>10430655
I'm finishing my BSc in Chemistry

[Anonymous No.10430678]

>>10430659
the financement reduction wouldn't just affect the number of new doctors but also new professors, researchers, engineers...

soon we will have to import Indian engineers like the US does

[Anonymous No.10430743]

>>10430678

True, but hard to justify the costs of professors for research with no students. And I think the importing is actually the goal since they don't need to be trained and aren't picky about wages so long as they get EU citizenship.

[Anonymous No.10430763]

>>10430743
>And I think the importing is actually the goal
In the case of France it's better to get Francophone immigrants and they get a French degree than importing English speaking Engineers
The first ones already speak French, they invest in France by studying and are in same level of what the French job openings needs, the other ones are less likely to learn french and took degree from other countries, so all these changes they made are very very stupid

[Anonymous No.10430853]

>>10430763
>implying speaking french is a good thing
it's time to get with the flow, that is to open up to the only benifit of globalism. Speaking the language of science and importing only the best of the best

[Anonymous No.10430861]

>>10430604
you speak french?

[Anonymous No.10431085]

>>10430861
Yup, i heard from a friend that the first year is extremely competitive and that the test is only MCQ, also that there exist a private preparation class that costs about 3000euros depending on where in France i actually go to, basically med school in France is a pay2win.

Any truth to that or first hand experience?

[Anonymous No.10431365]

>>10431085
Medschool is not p2w. Those preparation classes will just take your money and you don't have a better chance of getting in.

The 1st and 2nd year are carnage. Lots of people trying to get in, not many places. You'll study really hard, cramming a bunch of useless shit, and try to get in the top N%, because there's a set number of people that can go through, and if you're not in, though luck.

The parties are absolutely insane though, those cunts know how to fuck shit up.

[Anonymous No.10431376]

>>10431365
>french fags
>parties
choose one you french fuck

[Anonymous No.10431445]

where the fuck is the medicine general?

[Anonymous No.10431457]

Why would you study medicine in France over medicine in the US?

[Anonymous No.10431471]

WHERE IS /MED/ GENERAL, ANONS?

[Anonymous No.10431475]

>>10431457
lmao this, don't study medicine in France, they suck and don't even understand how muscles work and how not being able to build any is a disease. I wish I were in fucking America (where I could find either a qualified doctor to fix my fucking problem, or a gun to end it all)

[Anonymous No.10431693]

Brush up on your Arabic

[Anonymous No.10431712]

>>10430612
>t.neverlivedinFrance

[Anonymous No.10431728]

>>10431457
>Why would you study medicine in France over medicine in the US?
WTF? Why do you assume OP is from the USA?

[Anonymous No.10431739]

>>10430604
France is really bad. The worst country in North West Europe. Germany, the UK, and the Nords beats it everytime.
Here in Sweden we make fun of everyone who goes to France on exchange because it meant they couldn't get in anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.10431747]

>>10431739
and here in [The rest of the planet] we make fun of Swedes for getting raped by somalis

[Anonymous No.10431750]

>>10431747
Somalians have good civilization potential. Not like the bantus.

[Anonymous No.10431759]

>>10431750

[Anonymous No.10431780]

>>10431759
Doesn't matter. Actual history says they did alright. They were treated as equals in the ottoman empire.

[Anonymous No.10431802]

>>10431780
>>10431750
This is your brain when exposed to Sweden

[Anonymous No.10431813]

>>10431802
>Thread successfully derailed by /pol/shit
Mission accomplished right MAGApede?

Call me Reddit now. It's the next step in your playbook

[Anonymous No.10431822]

>>10431747
I'm not wh*te so you can consider my advice because I know which country has the best education and standard of living. Non-wh*tes don't go to shit countries.
France sucks and Sweden is better. If you want wh*teness you can go to shitholes like Poland if you want.

[Anonymous No.10431848]

>>10431822
France and Sweden both get raped non-stop, and are therefore shit.

>>10431813
>" Somalia is a beautiful country, and its people are amazing, their history is rich and in fact, the Ottoman Empire treated them as equals!"
How absolutely fucking cucked can one person get

[Anonymous No.10432353]

>>10431848
Yes but.
Sweden is better than France.
Your definition of raped means brown people.
That's not my definition.
France is worse off for reasons other than that which have been mentioned in this thread. French unis are bad.

[Anonymous No.10432357]

Do doctors look down on technologists? MRI techs, etc. Or do they respect them as a vital cog in the machine?

[Anonymous No.10433006]

>>10431712
t. un buttheart francais, je suis a ce moment la en fance, exactement a paris, c'etais une grande faute, le fait de venir ici etais tout simplement une perte de temps. J'espere que personne ne faisait la meme faute que moi.

[Anonymous No.10433764]

>>10432357
They view them as blue collar workers. They get the job done. Doctors only look down on Nurse Practitioners

[Anonymous No.10433782]

>>10433006
>a Paris
there is your problem lmao

[Anonymous No.10433785]

>>10431365
>Medschool is not p2w. Those preparation classes will just take your money and you don't have a better chance of getting in.

Well apparently people do, as these are MCQ the more you do the better you retain the information (specific to those MCQ's and especially in France since there's a lot of useless shit in the first year), so it's not useless.

[Anonymous No.10433840]

>>10430604
Enjoy spending the rest of your life being forced to work for a mediocre wage and struggle around an increasing socialized medical system that has you treating negros and Arabs every day, explaining to them that they have to wash their hands after using the toilet and use condoms to prevent any more diseases.

[Anonymous No.10433857]

>>10433840
>mediocre wage
lol no? doctors are the highest paid workers after government officials.
>treating negros and arabs everyday
How is any place different?
Surgeons don't only treat the lower class and don't really care who they operate.

I don't see why you're mad.

[Anonymous No.10433981]

>>10431365
Not the guy you responded to.
I'll be going to med school in Paris next year, is there any subject I should work on in particular this summer so that the first year isn't too hard?
I was thinking chemistry since I'm not very good at it, also some bio. There's not a lot of math and physics apparently, so can I skip those?
Since they said they'd remove the numerus clausus in 2020, I'm guessing that next year will still be the same as the previous years in terms of selection?
Also, what are med students like? I'm not really the partying type

[Anonymous No.10434086]

>>10430604
Big Pharma lobbying

[Anonymous No.10434171]

Is a french MD only accepted as valid medical training within the EU or can the doctors move elsewhere if they want to?

[Anonymous No.10434180]

>>10434171
Just the EU

[Anonymous No.10434184]

>>10434180
Don't equivalencies exist for foreign qualifications? Say if a euro physician wanted to move to America, Asia, Aus etc

[Anonymous No.10434199]

>>10434184
You have to pass their examinations to be able to practice there. And take an English test.

[Anonymous No.10434202]

>>10434199
>pass their examinations
Is that very long or very costly?
if it's just an exam and an english test, it doesn't seem that hard

[Anonymous No.10434203]

>>10434171
Theyre accepted in every country. They just need to pass tests in USA/CAN/Aus

>>10434199
this

[Anonymous No.10434288]

>>10431085
The prépa situation varies a lot depending on which uni you're attending. In mine, it's not really necessary and almost everyone I've talked to said that it didn't really help them. I think it also depends on your personality: if you feel like you work better when you're guided, it might help. If you don't think it's necessary to be told what to do and are fine with working on your own then it's probably going to be a waste of money.
Also the prépas do a lot of shady advertising, starting when you're in high school, and do everything to scare highschoolers into thinking they will fail without them.
Lastly don't forget that if your parents are able to drop 3k on something like that, they're probably doing well and educated and you're much more likely to succeed, regardless of whether it helps or not.
One thing that I recommend is to look if your future uni organizes a tutorat (most likely does). The usefulness depends on the uni again, but in mine it was incredibly useful and you should attend it no matter what.

>>10433981
Chemistry isn't hard at all. Most of it is biochem memorization stuff. The rest is pretty easy: basic orbitals/bonds stuff and ochem.
There's not a lot of math indeed and most of it is easy statistics, the rest isn't complicated and if you're half decent you can get a lot of easy points. There's an okay amount of physics, but the average student is garbage (if you get 12/20 it's okay) and if you're not too bad at it it can be a bunch of easy points.
The most important subjects are going to be biology/anatomy/histology.
You can find some sample courses here:
http://unf3s.cerimes.fr/paces/unf3s_paces.php
You're probably not going to make a lot of friends in PACES (I didn't make any in 2 years). Most of the med students are what some people would call normies, but I'm not a partying type at all either and I still get along with most people and made a couple of really good friends. Just be relaxed and easy-going.

[Anonymous No.10434312]

>>10434288
>There's an okay amount of physics
Should I mainly look at waves and EM stuff? As long as there's no newtonian mechanics/kinematics I'll be fine.
Thanks for the link, anon.
>I didn't make any in 2 years
Did you feel out of place at the beginning, since the med school stereotype is that student life (and even hospital/residency stuff) is geared towards pushy extroverts?

[Anonymous No.10434324]

>>10433981
Last tip: do as much annales (previous years exams) as possible. In my experience teachers ask the same type of questions (sometimes literally the exact same questions) every year. It's incredibly important to learn what the teacher expects you to learn or the problems he might ask you to solve.
Like one teacher only asked questions about the same couple amino acids every year. In some subjects it was the exact same problem every year but with different values. If you had already practiced solving that problem a couple times the past few days it was piss easy.

You're not going to study to learn anything but to get the highest grade on a test, so you should start by seeing what's going to be asked of you. Just seeing a couple old exams will probably be enough for you to know what the teacher expects of you.

The most important factors to me are your motivation and work ethic, how organized you are, how you handle stress and how good you are at memorizing stuff.

[Anonymous No.10434327]

>>10433840
fucks sake you guys should remember this isn't /pol/

when you grow up you'll realize how this racism is just cringy

[Anonymous No.10434347]

>>10434324
>You're not going to study to learn anything but to get the highest grade
Right, I should really assimilate that mentality and get used to cram as efficiently as possible, since it usually bothers me to learn something when I don't understand the underlying principles.
>important factors
I have good memory and stress shouldn't be an issue since I'm used to it. Work ethic and discipline are getting much better, is it true that the guys who pass the exam are the type to work from 7AM to 11PM only taking breaks to eat though?

[Anonymous No.10434401]

>>10434347
>>10434312
The thing about the physics in PACES is that it covers a ton of different topics. Some of it is general physics: EM/waves/kinematics/electricity/magnetism/thermodynamics. That's the part you can afford to fail honestly, most people are garbage at it, I remember that at the tutorat (mock exam that's pretty close to the real one) if you had 8/20 or something like that you'd be in the top 10% students. The grades were probably a bit better in the real exam, but really you can be garbage at this and do fine, just try to get as much correct as possible.
The rest is more like physiology about neurons or the heart and it's not hard at all, it's more memorization than physical thinking.

What you should focus on is biology. It is really heavily weighted in your final ranking and it's pure memorization. You can't afford to make any dumb mistakes or to skip any lesson because it's going to cost you a lot.

The funny thing is most of my friends are generally extroverts with whom I share a few interests. I've never been good at making friends with introverts in my life. And I always feel sort of out of place, but once you make a couple of friends you'll feel good. A lot of extroverts are interested in introverts. And since you're from abroad, I can guarantee you people are going to be curious and will want to learn about you.

[Anonymous No.10434409]

>>10430604
Hope you've been reading up on aids, nalarka and sickle cell

[Anonymous No.10434430]

>>10434347
You can understand the principles, and generally it helps to see things holistically and be able to connect what you learn in different courses to memorize better. That being said it's not enough, and you'll still have to memorize as much as possible, and mostly what the teacher wants you to memorize (like I said in the annales comment).

7AM to 11PM is slightly exaggerated, but it's still going to be a full time job. If you're not dumb, working seriously (no 4chan or pornhub) from 8AM to noon (with maybe a 20-30 minute break), taking a break until 1:30PM and working until 8 (with maybe 1 hour of breaks in the afternoon) is enough.
The days before the exams you're probably going to be closer to 7-11PM, but you're probably going to be too stressed out to care and you won't mind it.

One guy (seemed fairly reliable) told me he was on the edge of the numerus clausus the first semester, got tired of it by the second semester and stopped working until the last month, where he decided to give it all and barely made it, so I think everything is possible.

Don't underestimate motivation. Even if you're a genius you'll never make it if you don't really like medicine (besides thinking it's an okay career) or believe that it's truly your calling. I know a lot of people who had average grade in high school but passed because they really loved medicine. You'll have moments of doubt but you should really believe you're meant for it and want to do it. Not everyone is, and it's okay, there's a ton of interesting stuff to do besides medicine and you'll probably find something better.

[Anonymous No.10434432]

>>10434401
>since you're from abroad
I'm French actually, I'm not the same anon as the one you originally answered.
>the part you can afford to fail
Would it get me significantly ahead to be good at it, or should I not bother and use that time to cram bio instead?
>8/20
>top 10%
Jesus, aren't most students supposed to come from a terminale S?
>biology
Is it useful to take time memorizing the coursework from high school (2nde, 1S, TS) for bio or is it not really required?
>I always feel sort of out of place
Have you started your externat yet? Are you doing well?

[Anonymous No.10434442]

>>10434430
>mostly what the teacher wants you to memorize
Are there any efficient ways to take notes keeping that in mind, or should I just write down everything the professor says and sort it out later?
>believe that it's truly your calling
I think that's hard to say when you've never been inside that particular environment. I want to do it and have genuine interest in it, but I'm not one of those guys who wanted to be a doctor ever since he was a kid. It took some time figuring out what I wanted to do.

[Anonymous No.10434483]

>>10434432
>I'm French actually, I'm not the same anon as the one you originally answered.
Au temps pour moi :)
>Would it get me significantly ahead to be good at it, or should I not bother and use that time to cram bio instead?
Your first priority is bio, but at the same time you have to get as many points as possible. If you can't afford to spend any time studying physics something went wrong in your studying. The exact details of how much time you're going to devote to each subject will vary depending on you, and it will be somewhat obvious to you.
>Jesus, aren't most students supposed to come from a terminale S?
Yup lol. That being said the "physiques dures" part is pretty tough, time-limited and catches a lot of bizus by surprise. And I bet that in your class too, most of the best students at math/physics probably won't go to PACES but a prépa or something like that? My terminale S math teacher told me I was wasting my potential going in PACES instead of prépa and I wasn't even that good lol.
>Is it useful to take time memorizing the coursework from high school (2nde, 1S, TS) for bio or is it not really required?
It obviously won't hurt but it's like maybe 1% of what you'll need to know so it won't really matter.
If there's one thing you can do it's making sure you're comfortable with basic math (log/exp/intégration/dérivation/etc) and chemistry (pH/pKa mostly).
>Have you started your externat yet? Are you doing well?
I passed last year so no, and I'm really glad that I'm where I am currently, it's just that being autistic (figuratively) means I'll always feel sort of out of place, but I'm completely okay with that.

[Anonymous No.10434526]

>>10434442
>Are there any efficient ways to take notes [...] ?
You can't always know what the teachers wants you to know before you do the annales, although sometimes the teachers literally tell you he wants you to memorize some specific parts.
I read the cours and took notes as extensively as possible, did annales, during the correction I wrote down everything I didn't knew and got wrong and the questions I asked myself, then read the cours or notes again focusing on those parts I knew I needed to know but I didn't yet, made fiches, read them, etc.
You'll figure out your own workflow, don't be afraid to experiment. I liked being focused and writing down everything that I wanted to work on instead of broadly re-reading the cours over and over again hoping that something would stick, although re-reading the entire cours at least once during the révisions was useful.
>I think that's hard to say when you've never been inside that particular environment. I want to do it and have genuine interest in it, but I'm not one of those guys who wanted to be a doctor ever since he was a kid. It took some time figuring out what I wanted to do.
Absolutely, and whatever you do it will always be worth it to at least try, because you can't know if it's for you otherwise. I had a friend who only put PACES as his last choice on APB because he needed something in case he didn't get accepted in prépa or his engineering school, and kept telling me in terminale how PACES was terrible and he would absolutely not want to do it. He didn't get accepted anywhere and had to go in PACES, but he ended up loving it and he's really happy in medicine now.
Whatever you do you'll hopefully learn a lot about medicine and most importantly yourself and you probably won't regret it. If you realize you don't like medicine you can just quit anytime you want to do something better, if you realize you like it and you pass good for you, if you don't it's pretty sad but you can't regret trying.

[Anonymous No.10434563]

>>10434483
>>10434526
> catches a lot of bizus by surprise
In what way? I took a quick look at some previous subjects for the exam, it seems to mostly be stuff like optics, RMN, a few trick questions, not easy but definitely feasible.
>so it won't really matter
I was asking because I'm wondering what I should focus on this summer: getting a very solid grasp of the lycée coursework, or jumping straight to the PACES stuff to gain an advance.
>being autistic (figuratively) means I'll always feel sort of out of place
I think I understand. Pretty sure there are many more people in that state of mind than it seems.
>You'll figure out your own workflow
Yeah, thank you for the advice. The tutorat should definitely help too, I'm not really worried.
>he ended up loving it
I get the impression that you can't know if you're going to like medicine until you're actually doing it anyway.
>if you don't it's pretty sad
I'm pretty lost with the whole reform shit, basically the class of 2019-2020 (i.e. the one I'll be in) is going to get fucked over since it's the last year before the supression of the numerus clausus if I'm not mistaken.
Anyways I wish you the best of luck anon.

[Anonymous No.10434605]

>>10434563
>In what way? [...]
I didn't have any optics, no RMN (just IRM/MRI in magnetism). The problems are tougher than you expect and pretty detailed, you can't just generally understand the concepts but know the formulas and stuff, and again you're time limited.
>[...] I'm wondering what I should focus on this summer:
If you do okay on the bac and understand the HS curriculum you're fine, just do whatever you want and just prepare yourself a bit like learn about how your uni works and how you're going to organize so that you're not lost on your first day and know what to do.
I tried to work in the summer I couldn't do it and really it didn't help. You'll have plenty of time trust me, and really the first months of PACES I had no idea what I was doing. You'll figure it out once you're actually in PACES.
>Yeah, thank you for the advice. The tutorat should definitely help too, I'm not really worried.
You're welcome.
>I get the impression that you can't know if you're going to like medicine until you're actually doing it anyway.
Yup.
>I'm pretty lost with the whole reform shit, basically the class of 2019-2020 (i.e. the one I'll be in) is going to get fucked over since it's the last year before the suppression of the numerus clausus if I'm not mistaken.
Anyways I wish you the best of luck anon.
Yeah it's kinda weird. That being said I think there will still be some sort of NC (numerus apertus or something like that), it will probably be higher (how much depends on your fac) but I don't think it will suddenly skyrocket because there's only so many doctors you can train a year in a given fac/CHU.
If you don't pass you'll probably be able to redouble at the end of this year and join the reform. Nobody really knows the specifics yet but I'd be surprised if you end up getting fucked over, remember the goal is to train more doctors than now. It sucks to not know what's going to happen to you but I think it will be okay eventually. Good luck and bon courage anon :)

[Anonymous No.10434934]

>>10434288
Where were you in France?
I'm going to Angers, any info on how PluriPASS is there?

[Anonymous No.10435306]

>>10430604
Expect men in long sleeve, horizontally striped black/white shirts and berets. They'll be eating baguettes and snails exclaiming "sacre bleu" and "c'est la vie" at fancy thin metal tables in front of the Eiffel Tower. Don't even think about getting a girlfriend because they will creep on her with the "oh-hoh-hoh, zou are so beau-ti-full" and proceed to stick them with their stinky penis.

[Anonymous No.10435352]

>>10430604
>Moving to France soon to study medicine.
>Any frenchanons here to tell me what to expect?

Do not worry, France is just like every other Muslim nation.

[Anonymous No.10435384]

>>10435352
Which one of you left the lid off the /pol/ garbage can again?

[Anonymous No.10435395]

>>10435384
Sorry, wrong group.

[Anonymous No.10436659]

>>10435352
reported.

[Anonymous No.10436922]

>>10430612
fpbp

french people are cucks unable to check the paternity of your kids

[Anonymous No.10436941]

>>10434327
Chanced are you won't grow up because trannies tend to off themselves before 30

[Anonymous No.10437618]

>>10430612
>>10430616
how the FUCK france has fallen this down? They had an enormous amount of scientists in the 20 century

[Anonymous No.10438464]

>>10436941
Nazis don't die of old age. They kill themselves after they lose.

[Anonymous No.10438505]

>>10437618
French academia has been shit for decades now.
Academic salaries have been frozen for over 10 years, meaning a 15% drop in purchasing power with inflation.
Starting salary is ~20k, higher you can get will be ~60k after 20 years with lots of publication/service. Keep in mind this is gross and 20 to 40% of it will go to taxes.
I made more as a 1st year post-doc in the US than my former French advisor who was about to retire.
Everybody with half a brain moves to the private sector or abroad, only brainlets stay in France.
I taught at a French uni for a year and you can definitely feel the IQ gap between older professors and the younger generation (super passive, no creativity, basically lab-technician tier).
As others have said, it will only get worse.
Don't know about medicine specifically, but my wife is a US trained surgeon and was appalled by some of the shit doctors do or say here. (Like prescribe homeopathic "treatments", botch surgeries without consequences b/c liability is very limited compared to the states, etc...). French diplomas are still somewhat recognized abroad because of past achievements so you might be able to get a job abroad before people figure out that they're just handed out to any brainlet that has enough neetbux to lounge around until graduation.

t. French academic who moved out of this shithole hopefully for good.

[Anonymous No.10438801]

How is grad level education in Germany?

[Anonymous No.10438845]

>>10434327
Naming minority behavior isn't "cringe" by any means unless you're some sort of ideological. Which you are. So there's the end of that.

>>10438801
Very good. Probably on average better than France.

[Anonymous No.10438895]

>>10431475

[Anonymous No.10438914]

>>10430604
How difficult is it for foreigners with relevant degrees to get into quality med schools in Europe? Particularly interested in the Germanic countries.

[Anonymous No.10440177]

>>10430612
Least the food is good.

[Anonymous No.10440221]

>>10438505
>med school is France is easy
lol

[Anonymous No.10440224]

>>10438895
WHAT?! I'm sick of not being able to build muscle

[Anonymous No.10440433]

Have fun transferring to biology on year 2 like most of them.

[Anonymous No.10440480]

>>10440433
first year isn't that hard unless you fall for the party meme

[Anonymous No.10440487]

>>10440480
It's not hard to pass.
It's hard to get in the top %

[Anonymous No.10440526]

>>10440487
half of the first year students are brainlets who didn't realize what they were getting into
among the other half, a lot of people are going to fuck themselves over because dude med school parties lmao
if you're not retarded and you work hard, it's unlikely that you'd fail

[Anonymous No.10440548]

>>10438505
Fuck I'm part French part American studying at a shitty state uni in the US because I couldn't afford anywhere else, living in EU at the time. Now I'm thinking of transferring to a uni in France because I prefer Europe. I'm fucked either way right?

[Anonymous No.10440577]

>>10440548
You have to weigh if American state unis are better than french unis and where you want a job

[Anonymous No.10440589]

>>10440526
30% are rich kids with money to spend on prepa and 10% of those are the motherfuckers who get top% and decide to leave after the 2nd year because can't handle the hospital and patients.
Nice.

[Anonymous No.10440624]

>>10440589
>prepa
those aren't magic, dumbass
you can get the same results by working hard on your own, they don't give you a secret recipe to ace first year
frog med school difficulty is overblown as fuck, just don't be a moron, work hard and regularly and that's it. you underestimate how many people are either downright stupid, or too lazy to work hard
as another guy pointed out, the cream of the crop doesn't go for medical school in france, they go for top business or engineering programs at polytechnique or whatever. first year med you will be competing with a few very smart dudes, a lot of average people, and a lot of dumb fucks who're just there because doctor = money

[Anonymous No.10440629]

>>10434203
Aren't French MDs looked down upon in the rest of the world, especially in North America?

[Anonymous No.10440662]

>>10440629
All foreign "MD" are looked down upon by the US medical system. Americans who attend medical school abroad especially so.

[Anonymous No.10440666]

>>10440662
Why? Is the US system superior?

[Anonymous No.10440671]

>>10440666
It likes to think it is.

[Anonymous No.10440682]

>>10440671
So all foreign doctors are discriminated against, employment-wise, in US hospitals and clinics? Is it impossible to get a decent position?

[Anonymous No.10440703]

>>10440682
You will essentially have to complete a US residency to practice in the US. If you have no prior US clinical experience, getting into a US residency is extremely difficult and will likely require some form of observership or clinical internship first.

[Anonymous No.10440719]

>>10440703
Sounds like a incredibly and purposefully tedious process. Is the US the only (first world) country to function like this?

[Anonymous No.10440788]

>>10440719
No. Most function this way.

[Anonymous No.10441151]

>>10431822
Nigger

[Anonymous No.10441204]

>>10431739
honestly though does any european country have a truly good standard of living nowadays?
forget big cities because all big cities in the world are fucking garbage hellholes. I'm talking about smaller towns.

[Anonymous No.10442311]

>>10440624
the cream of the top succeeds in medical school and prepa / grandes ecoles.
Thing is the more mock exams you do, the better you retain information, those prepas have a shit ton of mock exams and regularly provides them (adapted to this years curriculum with the current teachers).
It helps enough that even autists manage to get their first year.

[Anonymous No.10442970]

>>10440719
The US has the AMA which functions as a cartel to artificially restrict the supply of doctors, making salaries for MDs in the US much higher than in the rest of the world. The same stuff happens in other countries, but it's more blatant in the US.

[Anonymous No.10443130]

you are absolutely going to drop out after impregnating a cute nurse.

[Anonymous No.10443146]

>>10441151
Ron Perlman cat is not amused

[Anonymous No.10443159]

>>10440703
what do you think about a US hihg school student going into a foreign MBBS then coming back and doing a US residency to skip 4 years of undergrad? Would that be looked down on too?

[Anonymous No.10443411]

What is the proportion of relationship material qts to party sluts? Is it like in american premed where pretty much every girl sleeps around

[Anonymous No.10443413]

>>10443411
What's premed

[Anonymous No.10443470]

>>10430604
>France
Daily reminder that the only good schools in france are X, ENS, HEC, Mines, ESSEC, Centrale and ESCP

[Anonymous No.10443496]

>>10431759
>one in three Somalis has been affected by some kind of mental illness
>tfw I'm a middle child of three sons in a Somali family
> my older is brother has mental illness (diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and some other stuff)

Yep, checks out desu

[Anonymous No.10443515]

>>10443496
Paranoia kept Stalin alive and schizophrenia is a superpower

[Anonymous No.10443526]

>med school

enjoy killing yourself at 30 after realizing you wasted your entire 20's studying shit you hate for a measly 6 figures

[Anonymous No.10444932]

>>10443526
Better than spending 5 years studying shit I also hate for a 5 figures to be honest

[Anonymous No.10445090]

>>10431739
also a swede and at my uni it isn't that hard to get into any German unis for exchange. ecole polytechnique is harder to get into I think.

[Anonymous No.10445101]

Are French cuties open towards smart black guys? I'm a Nigerian student about to go to France and I kinda have a fetish for European women

[Anonymous No.10445104]

>>10438914
You mean Americans? Very difficult. US high school education is very poor, you'd need to do something like IB or A-levels. Volunteering in a hospital is sometimes mandatory too.

[Anonymous No.10445110]

>>10445101
France has a better relationship with it's former African colonies than other European countries so being black is less fetishised. I think in general you'll find people don't care too much.

[Anonymous No.10445111]

>>10443470
Only X and ENS are good, I bet you're one of these overweening guys from HEC or Centrale.

[Anonymous No.10445139]

>>10445110
What are French girls like compared to American girls?

[Anonymous No.10445226]

>>10445110
Well better than then being racist. Hard living as a black man into white women in Italy

[Anonymous No.10445240]

>>10430616
> cuties on medschool

[Anonymous No.10445249]

>>10445101
In my experience Europeans in general are much much more racist than Americans are, specially now when they have all that immigration problem going on. Italy is a case on it's own tho, those fuckers are racist towards everyone, even to the rest of Europe. Romans even discriminate towards the rest of Italy so yeah...

[Anonymous No.10445254]

>>10445249
Fuck that's sick. That's why I'm going to marry soon and start a family with a few children.

The more mixed we get (I'm black future wife white) the better europe will turn out

[Anonymous No.10445310]

>>10445254
It's not sick tho, it's just their history. The US went through a process of extreme racism and they solved it. Europe hasn't had that process so people don't take racism as serious. Add to that how nationalists Europeans are and you have a formula for separatism. One lone dude ain't going to change the mentality and cultural morality of an entire continent.

[Anonymous No.10445348]

>>10445310
Nah Europe is already changing. Many of my black friends are married to white women, quite a few of them prefer Blacked over going white

[Anonymous No.10445378]

>>10445111
I'm actually at ENS Lyon, but you're probably underage for being so irrationally elitist

[Anonymous No.10445380]

>>10445378
>ENS Lyon
>not Ulm
opinion discarded, neck yourself piece of genetic garbage

[Anonymous No.10445396]

Medical school is filled with muslims. There's 15%+ muslims in completely overrun. It's weird too because there's no affirmative action for anyone here. Somehow the muslims are getting in with their grades while all that premed shit.

[Anonymous No.10445399]

>>10445348
That's stupid though. You're throwing away your genes to become more like African Americans.

[Anonymous No.10445404]

>>10445399
I'm into white girls only, can't help it man. Also I don't give a fuck about racial purity.

The future is mixed

[Anonymous No.10445411]

>>10445404
They will assimilate you

[Anonymous No.10445421]

>>10445411
LOL have you ever watched blacked porn? We are assimilating them

[Anonymous No.10445424]

>>10445421
That's what the Turks thought. Now they are 80% Greek

[Anonymous No.10445426]

>>10445424
Whatever. Bet you're a white ass cracker secretly hating on us black folk for dating white women

[Anonymous No.10445430]

>>10445426
I'm not white either. I briefly had a moment when I could been with an Italian girl but I chose not to because in the end it wouldn't work out.

[Anonymous No.10445431]

>>10445424
So what lmao. Turks are still more attached to Turkic nations by a long shot.

[Anonymous No.10445436]

>>10445430
Sure bucko

[Anonymous No.10445442]

>>10445431
The only way you assimilate them is if you impregnate as many white women as possible. That's not realistic because they're always on birth control and have no issues aborting.
To make them keep the baby, you have to stay with them. You can't stay with many. Also your kids are half white so you get assimilated.

[Anonymous No.10445533]

>>10445380
Lol as if you have a shot at getting into either

[Anonymous No.10445671]

>>10442970
They don't 'artificially restrict the amount of doctors to keep salaries up', retard.

They restrict doctors so they're the most competant profession. This has been happening since the early 1900s when Rockefeller redesigned the medical field with a $50,000,000 donation.

[Anonymous No.10445690]

I'm a proud black man

My girlfriend is white and our children will be black

[Anonymous No.10445695]

>>10445533
I have already graduated from ENS Ulm quite some time ago while the most you could get was an admission sur dossier, mdr.

[Anonymous No.10445815]

>>10445690
Not black enough

[Anonymous No.10445891]

>>10445695
Dubs and you're LARPing. I already rolled triple dubs so your cul was btfo anyway, crétin

[Anonymous No.10445915]

>>10445891
Whatever, you are not even a Normalien, your opinion will therefore be discarded by anyone whose iq exceeds 70. Good luck in your future endeavors, pédale.

[Anonymous No.10446073]

>>10441151
Wtf is this cat's deal

[Anonymous No.10447447]

>>10430604
>France medschool
Enjoy performing surgery on my baguette as you work at Subway, lmao

[Anonymous No.10447449]

>>10430604
picpocketing