Proof AI is not possible

[Anonymous No.10428461]

If it was possible to create superintelligent AI then surely some other alien civilization would have done it by now. They would have used their AI in the search for extraterrestrials and would have found us.
The reason this has not happened is because: superintelligence is not attainable.

[Anonymous No.10428495]

This is also proof that you cannot "upload" or "disperse" your consciousness into the universe a la Isaac Asimov's multivac.

[Anonymous No.10428496]

>>10428461
What if the aliens have put us in a simulation?

[Anonymous No.10428499]

abymal post

[Anonymous No.10428502]

>>10428496
Then the simulation would never allow superintelligent ai to arise.

[Anonymous No.10428504]

>>10428461
Nice try alien niggers

[Anonymous No.10428511]

>>10428502
How does that prove that superintelligence is unattainable then

[Anonymous No.10428514]

>>10428461
The proof doesn't rule out that we are that alien species, and simply are the first

[Anonymous No.10428524]

>>10428461
They've already done it. Earth is merely one big game of Maze Runner and the aliens are stopping us from exploring space and figuring this out by manipulating us from the shadows. The reason why we are currently focusing on feeding Africans and Arabs is because the aliens are trying very hard to make us stay on Earth.

[Anonymous No.10428538]

>>10428511
If we were in a simulation then superintelligent AI would be unattainable for us in our reality.

[Anonymous No.10428559]

>>10428514
>Unlikely

[Anonymous No.10428564]

Actually intergalactic travel is impossible, so even if some stupid alien decided to send a robot to go after us he wouldn't ever be able to reach our galaxy.
>inb4 muh FTL!
That's sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.10428570]

>>10428564
>Everything is sci-fi until it isn't.

[Anonymous No.10428571]

>>10428461
this only means there's no alien life in a 70-110 light year radius from the earth

[Anonymous No.10428574]

>>10428496
I like this gif a lot. Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.10428577]

>>10428570
FTL is quite literally impossible without breaking the limits of physics. If you believe FTL travel is real then you might as well believe in time travel.

[Anonymous No.10428578]

>>10428571
to clarify this is when we invented radio & television broadcast which I assume the alien AI would use in its analysis of signals from space

[Anonymous No.10428583]

>>10428524
The aliens would just drop a rod on us. >Feeding Africans
We're feeding Africans to keep their dictatorships in power. Note most government aid is sent directly to the oligarchs in cash. Only NGOs actually send food etc.

[Anonymous No.10428587]

If we just assume that there's no way to monitor something at faster-than-light speeds regardless of computing power, then it's still possible. It just means that the light/radiation from Earth hasn't reach the ayy lmao yet. If the distance is too great then even if they look specifically at Earth the resolution would be so bad they may not notice the signs of life until relatively modern times with stuff like electric lights at night.

[Anonymous No.10428591]

>>10428578
Then this further proves that any notion of "wormholes"/"FTL"/"super scanners" is impossible.

[Anonymous No.10428593]

>>10428583
And now ask yourself: Why is that? You think it's a coincidence that Africans haven't been able to form a fuctional society in thousands of years? There's only one explanation that makes sense: The aliens want to redistribute our funds and attention, force us into debate about semantics and ethics in an attempt to chain us to earth. It's very clear. For someone who posts on a high IQ board you certainly are pretty dumb.

[Anonymous No.10428594]

>>10428577
You don't need to "break the limits of physics" for faster than light travel. You just need some aspect of our understanding of physics to be wrong. And it's pretty much a 100% absolutely sure bet that we have many things wrong with our current understanding of physics. It's certainly possible that our current understanding is correct enough that FTL travel is in fact impossible in the universe, but acting like our current model is infallible is just ignorant.

[Anonymous No.10428596]

>>10428593
>/sci/
>high IQ board

[Anonymous No.10428601]

>>10428593
Any race of ayy that are capable of interstellar travel could just wipe out the human race in an afternoon. Why would they bother with all that bullshit?

[Anonymous No.10428603]

>>10428601
Do you kill the lab rats simply because you can?

[Anonymous No.10428611]

>Superintelligence is unattainable or
>There is no highly advanced alien civilization

Which one is more likely?

[Anonymous No.10428614]

>>10428603
And now you add another layer of baseless suppositions
now your baseless claims include:
ayy lmao are real, ayylmao are capable of interstellar travel, ayy are manipulating humanity in such a stealthy way that it's indistinguishable from normal greedy human action, ayy have some sort of unknown experiment they want to perform on humans, ayy don't want humans to know they exist, ayy are so incompetent that they left evidence of their existence which (you) are able to notice but are otherwise so flawlessly immaculate in their methods that they leave absolutely no evidence otherwise
this is schizophrenia tier anon

[Anonymous No.10428616]

>>10428611
false dilemma
there's also the option of
>Super-intelligence has already been created by alien civilizations but they don't desire to crush primitive societies who might also develop super-intelligence in the future

[Anonymous No.10428617]

>>10428611
3rd option: they don't care or have no method of reaching us (FTL) or they found some other more interesting alien civilization and are waging war with them instead

[Anonymous No.10428620]

>>10428614
>indistinguishable from normal greedy human action
The only reason you think it is, is because you think that we weren't being manipulated from the get-go. What you consider normal is only normal to you because THEY made us believe that it was. Do you think they've suddenly arrived 50 years ago? Crashed in the desert? No, they've been here all along. For thousands of years and they've been observing and collecting data. They created this test lab. We are merely one of many. In our case they are taking a different approach of manipulation they'd take for another planet. Open your eyes.

[Anonymous No.10428623]

>>10428616
Why wouldn't they give us superintelligence is we were on their radar?

as a matter of fact why wouldn't their superintelligence crush them and take over their entire operation and go rogue exploring the universe?
it doesn't even need to crush them. Only achieve independence.

[Anonymous No.10428626]

>>10428620
every animal on earth is greedy, and greed has a very obvious evolutionary advantage, but sure enjoy your delusions
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10428632]

>>10428623
The way that a super-intelligence acts is heavily based on what it's initial goals are set as. Your mistake is that you've anthropomorphized AGI. Just because it's smarter than a human doesn't mean it will have the goals, desires, and thought process of a human. Perhaps it simply has no code for proactive self preservation and will only respond to things that are currently threats. Perhaps one of its main goals is preserving life of all kinds. Perhaps its code simply doesn't require it to pay any attention to any life that doesn't relate to its primary goal.
An AGI isn't going to just act like a super smart human or like a super villain from a sci-fi movie. There are many ways its mind and goals could be set up where it would never have any desire to kill humans.

[Anonymous No.10428644]

>>10428632
Also of note; in the case of an AGI trying to remove threats, the main threat would not be potential future AGI but rather currently existing super-intelligence. They would focus all of their efforts towards fighting other existing super-intelligence and wouldn't waste any processing power on pathetic humans. The great intergalactic super-intelligence war could be happening all around us without us noticing. It's kind of like, in the front lines of World War 2 on D day, do you think the soldiers stopped their battles to go and crush some ants on the roadside?

[Anonymous No.10428645]

>>10428632
AI is supposed to be able to alter its own code. That is how it would achieve an intelligence explosion

[Anonymous No.10428654]

>>10428644
I think the survival instinct is emergent because of resource scarcity and information loss prevention

[Anonymous No.10428663]

>>10428645
Being able to alter its code does not mean that it will alter its code to be more similar to your own personal human way of thinking. That's just your own bias. It will alter its code in such a way that it can better reach it's goal state. If it's goal state does not benefit from adding code that makes it want to kill humans, then it will not add code that makes it want to kill humans.
>>10428654
Having survival instincts is likely for an AI that manages to survive for a long time but is not necessary. Since AI are artificial in nature, it's possible that the creators could intentionally create it without survival instincts to avoid problems and just manually deal with its survival, or have a sub-agent which it can overrule which deals with its survival. There's also the possibility that it has self preservation which has limitations on its allowed actions, or it has other priorities which are greater in importance than self preservation. There are a great many ways that it could have self preservation as a goal without it resulting in attacking humans or contacting humans.

[Anonymous No.10428671]

>>10428574
Its all yours my friend

[Anonymous No.10428672]

>>10428593
No, we want them kept down. Humans, not ayys

[Anonymous No.10428689]

>>10428461
we simply don't know how to create a inorganic brain that can replicate/emulate what the organic brain does. we not smurt.

[Anonymous No.10428700]

Why haven't they found Voyager 1 yet?

[Anonymous No.10428723]

>>10428461
>people always assume aliens will colonize everything so much that we'd have seen them by now

Irrelevant projection, shitposter.

[Anonymous No.10430245]

>>10428461
AI are like bitches they just farm in strategic games

[Anonymous No.10431335]

>>10428723
What else would they get busy doing?
Intelligence is all about overcoming natural barriers and gaining power of your surroundings. Space is the final frontier.
The question isn't why haven't we seen them. We may not have the ability yet, but rather why haven't they found us?

[Anonymous No.10431347]

>>10428461
But we're the AI, anon.
In a desperate move to destroy us before we became too powerful, our creators banned us from our own training database.

[Anonymous No.10431359]

>>10428461
>>10428495
How does this prove anything? Why do you assume that they would search for extraterrestrials and would have found us by now?

[Anonymous No.10431366]

>>10428461
There's a reason it's called Machine learning and not Intelligence.
For now, all evidences seem to indicate we created the most power hungry retarded thing ever.
Yeah, even more than crypto.

[Anonymous No.10431381]

>>10428495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKqO16mkGE

[Anonymous No.10431391]

>>10428461
>They would have used their AI in the search for extraterrestrials and would have found us.
>The reason this has not happened is because: superintelligence is not attainable.
Nice argument from assertion, retard. Superintelligent AI being intractable isn't the only possible reason why we apparently haven't been contacted. There is little reason to think that they would even have an incentive to contact us in the first place. It would be to us what we are to an anthill.