WHy does /sci/ hate CS majors?

[Anonymous No.10420475]

It's because CS jobs actually give you decent pay. Have fun with your shit paying EE job while i'm rolling in 6 figures working for a large company

[Anonymous No.10420476]

>>10420475

[Anonymous No.10420492]

>>10420475
BACK TO THE CONTAINMENT BOARD /g/.

[Anonymous No.10420493]

CS = Computer Science.

[Anonymous No.10420494]

>>10420492
>calling every board you disagree with a containment board

[Anonymous No.10420502]

>>10420493
No, Computer Socialism

[Anonymous No.10420503]

>>10420494
>Disagree with
>Not vehemently hate with the most abject ire and disrespect.
Now THIS is shitposting.

[Anonymous No.10420515]

>>10420503
>be me
>CS chad master race
>see a scrub physics phd talking with his gf
>his gf immediately drops to her knees under my gravitational pull and glues herself to my cock
>physically cannot remove her until the end of the day
>watch him run back to his cuck shed as he cries literal gallons of virgin tears
>he finds new work as a salt factory
>mfw

[Anonymous No.10420524]

>>10420475
Is EE really a meme? In my city it looks like there's a lot of job openings and I've been offered starting tech positions

[Anonymous No.10420526]

>>10420515
>gravitational pull
You must be a fat fuck. That or you're dense as fuck. Oh right. You're a CS major.

[Anonymous No.10420551]

>>10420526
>>10420515
>>10420503
>>10420502
C-Can't we all just get along?

[Anonymous No.10420558]

>>10420551
>dumb weeb poster
yikes

[Anonymous No.10420569]

>>10420524
OP is just an idiot that thinks you need a degree with the word computer in it to get software jobs.

[Anonymous No.10420585]

>>10420475
Because most of them don't like CS at all and just want the degree to do code monkey shit like web dev.

[Anonymous No.10420590]

>>10420551
>get cucked by a literal elementary schooler

[Anonymous No.10420620]

>>10420476
This, but unironically

[Anonymous No.10420672]

CS is fine. I have 2 friends in theoretical CS. CS grad papers are fun to read through because they’re generally full of clever tricks, interesting math, and motivated problems. One thing I’m envious of as a physics theorist is that CS theorists can get as abstract as they want and never have to ask themselves, “is my study erring on the psuedoscientific?” in a way HEP and cosmology cannot.

That being said CS undergrads aren’t interested in what seems to make CS a worthwhile field. Most are in it for the money and have nothing to brag about other than their salaries. Like, I don’t care that your degree; I won’t respect your classes if you chose stuff to just get by. The good CS students do lots of research, double major in math (which i feel is good for any CS or physics major since neither major has enough time to introduce you to the math you need in grad school), actually take the challenging classes, etc.

tl;dr just like any other math, science, and engineering students, don’t flaunt a salary projection in the place of a hard workload. CS is cool though

[Anonymous No.10420674]

>>10420672
Why do academics constantly say you shouldn't care about the money while earning 6 figures for hardly working

[Anonymous No.10420678]

>>10420585
>webdev
you don't even need a degree for that lmao

[Anonymous No.10420682]

>>10420672
Yeah but physics has a chance of finding immortality and CS does not

[Anonymous No.10420683]

>>10420678
but you wont have a good time finding a job without it

[Anonymous No.10420697]

>>10420682
What do you mean? CS is absolutely immortal. Especially theory. Theory of computation/complexity has given back in spades to physics and especially chaos theory. I think you don’t really understand what CS is.

What about CS would not be “immortalized?”

[Anonymous No.10420705]

>>10420674
I’m saying that I don’t find it particularly impressive. It’s not very fulfilling to live on a salary without interesting work in my opinion, and after working a lot, I’m already within 15k of six figures with good quality of life. Why would extra money contribute to fundamental my happiness?

[Anonymous No.10420706]

>>10420475
Not so much the discipline as the people attracted to it.
https://medium.freecodecamp.org/what-you-learn-in-a-4-year-computer-science-degree-35a95457cb06

https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/ame70l/my_elem_school_cousin_is_better_at_math_than_i_am/

https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/akbpph/comment/ef3hbuy

>inb4 hurr durr reddit
Just linked the first for the title. The the kind of attitude in the second(you'll know which one) is stupidly common among CS students.

https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/55462/how-when-is-calculus-used-in-computer-science
Scroll through the responses in this one and you'll find a gem.

[Anonymous No.10420719]

>>10420705
*to my fundamental happiness

[Anonymous No.10420742]

>>10420719
some people work because they have other things they love doing that aren't necessarily careers, even the passionate professors I know would rather be hiking, fucking students, working out, traveling, etc. I know contractors and consultants that teach while making bank. My mentor in grad school drove a car that cost over $100,000 because he negotiated his consulting work for the manufacturer to pay him with a leased car. He's also taken shares in startups and has worked with some very big companies

It's all good to be humble but some people value their time highly and businesses may agree it is a fair price for expertise.

[Anonymous No.10420896]

>>10420706
CS major here, can confirm, no one here gives a shit about learning topics like Graph Theory, Computability and Complexity, Algorithms or just math in general because these are "useless for programming", it is quite infuriating, math, physics and engineering majors rarely do this and many of them actually care about their disciplines, meanwhile here CS people only talk about doing CRUD apps.

At least the competence for actual CS jobs is almost non-existent because most people here are like pic related.

[Anonymous No.10420908]

>>10420475
Most CS majors are dumbasses with no interest in the field, only in it because of the hype around Silicon Valley. This has ruined undergraduate CS as American universities are trying to turn it into a poor software engineering degree.

[Anonymous No.10421014]

>>10420476
Doesn't this only apply to non-selective universities though? Universities like MIT, other ITs/PI's, the Ivy league, the NESCAC, the higher-ranked UC's, and Stanford all still have challenging and useful CS degrees.

[Anonymous No.10421147]

>>10420475
>>>/g/69950204

[Anonymous No.10421150]

>>10421014
No, they're still memes or EECS which is really just CpE.

[Anonymous No.10421198]

insecurity over our employability and paychecks

[Anonymous No.10421262]

>>10420475
All I know is that CS niggas look goofy

[Anonymous No.10421285]

>>10420476
>A mathematician or a physicist who is trained in reading definitions, theorems, and proofs can pick up all of a BSc computer scientist's theoretical CS much more indepth by spending one or two afternoons reading a book.

I'm a BSc in mathematics who is going back to school for CS and I'm in a class where me and one or two other guys know what's going on in a lecture hall with 40 people. We actually work through the fucking book, work through example problems, apply the concepts independently of class, etc. Meanwhile, the entire rest of the class spends the lecture lobbying the professor to flip the course upside-down to cater to them, since the book is "unhelpful" (even though it's actually an excellent book which explains everything concisely and clearly).

When I got my degree in mathematics, mathematics students were hard workers who were interested in the subject, tried to optimize their time on campus (trying to work through the whole day until their bus came, trying to get as much done as possible before going home, not wasting time by walking to random places on campus, etc). Computer science students are very inefficient and lazy. I overhear them talking about not having started projects for which there is a 2 week work period before the due date the night before. Then they complain that the class is "harsh" or "difficult" when they inevitably get a lower grade than expected They are less intelligent than mathematicians and physicists by a much larger margin than I thought. Mathematicians and physicists never did this.

Many computer scientists are very business oriented and are only interested in new products, or in top-level software. They are not interested at all in computers qua computers from the ground up, even though computers are amazing and there are many extremely clever technologies to be amazed at in computer science from front-end to back-end. They don't explore outside of class nearly at all.

[Anonymous No.10421293]

As someone who works as a software engineer but took upper div math classes for fun while doing my CS degree, if your bosses are competent, you will be recognized and move up quickly as long as you arent a sperg.

[Anonymous No.10421440]

>>10420742
What was his career like? How does one build a career like his?

[Anonymous No.10421448]

>>10420896
>actual CS jobs
Are you talking about research or AI?