Earth Batteries

[Anonymous No.10418461]

Hey there guys. I live in a state where we lose power quite often and I am going to be moving somewhere quite rural. I was looking into potential ways of producing my own energy and stumbled across an "earth battery." I was just wondering if anyone here has any experience with these/knows anything pertinent/can point me to some good archives to read over. I'm not very literate when it comes to electricity, how it functions, nor how to produce it, so any materials on that would be highly welcomed as well.

[Anonymous No.10418507]

>>10418461
Looks like the dirt is acting as a fuckhueg electrolyte for electrons to travel between the zinc and copper plates.

Your copper is going to corrode super fast, but I guess it makes sense. You lose nothing by trying it out.

Only complication I could see is ensuring the dirt is always moist. When it dries up, you lose whatever electrolyte you have.

[Anonymous No.10418514]

>>10418461
Actually through galvanic action, I would expect the zinc to corrode more, but yeah. Imagine that maintenance of the battery would be an effort

[Anonymous No.10418521]

>>10418461
All the energy is coming from the metal electrodes. The only difference between doing this in a bucket of water and doing it in the ground is that by doing it in the ground you get to experience metal poisoning when you drink well water.

[Anonymous No.10418522]

>>10418461
>generating (not storing) electricity chemically
lol, no.

Get solar panels, they're like 1$/W or less now. Hook them up to a MPPT charger (pwm sucks) and a bunch of batteries. For batteries LTO is the most durable, LiFePO4 still durable but half the price and more common, used electric car batteries are cheapish, and deep cycle lead acid if you're utterly broke.

[Anonymous No.10418530]

>>10418461
>I'm not very literate when it comes to electricity, how it functions, nor how to produce it, so any materials on that would be highly welcomed as well

Manga Guide to Electricity
https://b-ok.cc/md5/159ab38a67912399441848b3e053dbee

[Anonymous No.10418539]

>>10418461
You cannot get enough voltage unless you isolate each dirt electrically. If the dirt is not isolated in your pic, its just some metal roads stuck in to the ground.

[Anonymous No.10418545]

>>10418507
>>10418514
>>10418521
Appreciate the input. I know absolutely nothing about electricity and have been struggling to understand it. It's all so overwhleming and I don't know whre to begin.

>>10418522
Thanks for the advice. Solar was my first hedge, but came across this and thought I'd ask.

>>10418530
Gunna check it out.

>>10418539
I don't understand your statement.

[Anonymous No.10418799]

>>10418545
So, what he's saying is that a 3v "cell" of dirt is only ever going to put out 3v, unless you put other 3v cells in series. That's how voltages stack on normal batteries

[Anonymous No.10418859]

>>10418522
this is the best solution for experimentations and learning.

[Anonymous No.10418912]

>>10418461
This could be a good time to do a little experiment OP. Test that shit out and share your results.

Try different dirt types, try dopimg the dirt with different amounts of electrolytes and compare your results to something like a brine solution. Should be fun if you have the time.

In all honestly though you're better off saving money for a solar panel and a large battery

[Anonymous No.10418934]

>>10418799
No he is saying you can't just put rods in the ground and expect to generate electicity, you have to get separate containers filled with dirt for each dirt cell and insulate them from dirt in the ground, so all the rods aren't just sharing a common ground and generating zero volts.

[Anonymous No.10418960]

the question here is, is the power you get here coming purely from the copper corroding? that couldn't possibly generate much power unless you made a giant one

[Anonymous No.10418997]

>>10418960
Mark Rober has a video on a large scale lemon battery. Your power comes from the zinc's electrons being conducted by the electrolytes in the lemon to the copper. Obviously small sticks or metal don't have that much energy capacity, so you can barely generate any power at all, even with hundreds or thousands of citruses. You're better off stocking up on batteries, or using a flashlight with a hand-powered crank.

[Anonymous No.10419069]

Do these plate pairings act as conductors?

[Anonymous No.10419102]

>>10419069
Metal already acts as a conductor on its own in this configuration they act like any metal acid battery with the dirt providing the acidity for the two dissimilar metals to cause a flow of electrons and act as a pair of anode/cathode electrodes.

The dirt could be replaced with anything with some acidity like a lemon, potato, a pan of lasagna.

[Anonymous No.10420582]

>>10418461
Basic idea between batteries is that they create DC voltage and you can create them by having two different metals with some electrolyte inbetween them. The more reactive the metal and the more surface area the better the battery. Putting the battery cells (two metals with an electrolyte) in series increases the voltage while battery cells in parallel increase the amperage.

[Anonymous No.10421023]

>>10418461
if you combine it with a compost heap you can use the heat and evaporation as an energy source too. then you can grow plants to eat, for energy

[Anonymous No.10421024]

>>10418461 (OP)
if you combine it with a compost heap you can use the heat and also evaporation as energy sources too. then you can grow plants to eat, for energy

[Anonymous No.10421028]

>>10418461
if you combine it with a compost heap you can use the heat and also evaporation as energy sources too. then you can grow plants to eat, for energy. you can also use it to heat water directly, for showering and stuff.

[Anonymous No.10421033]

>>10419102
Wait, I meant capacitors. Jesus I'm retarded. I was also high reeee

[Anonymous No.10421314]

>>10418461
Just buy a train battery

[Anonymous No.10421322]

>>10418461

You make a battery out of as potato!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFuF2Tsg9HY

[Anonymous No.10421333]

>>10418461
Get yourself one of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiRrvxjrJ1U

[Anonymous No.10422670]

bump

[Anonymous No.10423311]

>>10418461
>hot summer day
>wake up from nap, hot as hell
>lights flicker
>AC unit stutters to a halt
>fuckin' power outage
>not again
>run to basement to switch on the backup system
>backup dirt batteries aren't working
>mfw I forgot to water the 10 acres of dirt batteries in my back yard yesterday

[Anonymous No.10423654]

>>10423311
dig a well
install one of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHoiKpxpaKc
or harvest moisture from thin air and gravity feed it

[Anonymous No.10423794]

>>10423654
Or, you know, buy a generator