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>> No.10403522

>>10403513
blacks are homo erectus.

>> No.10403523

>>10403513
whites are neanderthals.

>> No.10403544

>>10403513
Intelligence is a highly heritable polygenic trait whose allele frequency is historically contingent on population isolationism by geography, sociological barriers (religion, language, culture, custom, etc), assortative mating, and differing environmental pressures.

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>>10403513
Guess what also is correlated

>> No.10403708

>>10403577
Suburbanites generally outperform both.
The trend (at least in the US) is that people with high intelligence are born outside the cities, move to them when they're young, and then move to suburban areas when they're ready to start families.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000750
Not really relevant to OP's post, of course, unless people find a way to "move" between races.

>> No.10403737

Bias. Bias bias bias.

>> No.10403741

>>10403737
raven’s matrices aren’t biased against anyone but jews and they counterbalance this with quantitative, abstract, and verbal reasoning

>> No.10403746

>>10403741
The idea of IQ itself implies bias

>> No.10403753

>>10403746
explain your reasoning to me

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10403755

>>10403577
>city people
I see what you did there.

>> No.10403768

>>10403753
Someone has to design the test for intelligence. From these designs comes implied superior reasoning, which is bias. You can’t just claim to be ‘smarter’ than someone else. That’s an inherently situational and perspective-based claim.

I’m not even saying it’s subjective, but different aptitudes for different things goes much further than a base number. By having a number assigned to your intelligence, you become like human cattle, but it doesn’t end there, simply because you have a high IQ means nothing and it means everything. It is the ultimate ploy by Jews to destroy society.

>> No.10403775

>>10403513
Genetics, hood culture, high rates of single parent households, shutty schools. All contribute to an abismal average IQ

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>>10403513

>> No.10403834

>>10403513
What's the IQ distribution of jews?

>> No.10403844

>>10403768
>Someone has to design the test for intelligence. From these designs comes implied superior reasoning, which is bias
You might think so, but from what I've read, the g factor tends to emerge regardless of how you design the test. You can come up with all kinds of silly little tasks - counting vowels in meaningless strings of text, adding small numbers together quickly and accurately, whatever you like. Smart people will perform the tasks faster and more accurately.
This is known as "indifference of indicator," and it makes the case that IQ tests are really measuring something meaningful much more convincing, to me.

>> No.10403857

>>10403775
Most of those are decreasing though lol. Lots of progress has been made and the gap is closing (compare now to back then). If IQ couldn't change over time in population then any achievement gap between any 2 populations would never be mitigated.

>> No.10403875

>>10403513
Because black people were taken from africa and enslaved for a couple generations and then when americans decided they didn't want to do that anymore they set them all free into the world and went "lol good luck" except they were considered inferior beings and ostracized and segregated and by the time americans decided they didn't want to do that anymore which was only about 40 years ago all the blacks were already poor and uneducated and had little opportunities so while things got better for them since then they remain highly concentrated in poor communities with little opportunity while struggling to achieve any class mobility because they have to compete with non-blacks for jobs and that's not about to change any time soon because the only people who pretend to care about it are dumb socialist SJWs who want daddy government to take over and make everyone "equal" under their supreme rule.

>> No.10403877

>>10403875
calm down karl marx

>> No.10403878

>>10403844
Is it? Or is it just statistical probability in action? If you were to measure who is the best at throwing rocks I’m sure you’d get a Bell Curve as well.

Maybe IQ is measuring something like throwing rocks: useless for any modern task. But measurable nonetheless

>> No.10403883

>>10403877
Marxism is retarded.

>> No.10403887
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10403887

>>10403875
>thinking niggers in the us are somehow worse off than niggers at home

>> No.10403890

>>10403878
>Is it? Or is it just statistical probability in action? If you were to measure who is the best at throwing rocks I’m sure you’d get a Bell Curve as well.
Well, the point is that all these different measures of mental ability correlate with each other, and also with real-world performance at complex tasks.

>> No.10403910

>>10403887
Considering the high amount of immigrant Africans in spot secondary education of all levels from all socioeconomic levels that can be one case in his point.

In general most immigrants grousp do better then the natives with a few exceptions like Japanese-Americans (or any longtime immigrant groups) who've been here for generations

>> No.10403914

>>10403887
Do you not understand how socioeconomic status works? People's status is compared relative to others in their countries and communities. Nobody cares that some uncontacted tribe exists somewhere when comparing populations in the USA.

>> No.10403915

>>10403890
I can guarantee you they are mostly behavioral distinctions.

>> No.10403929

>>10403857
>Most of those are decreasing though lol. Lots of progress has been made
Nope

>> No.10403931

>>10403834
Ashkenazis have better than average whites

>> No.10403933

>>10403741
>raven’s matrices aren’t biased
How are you so sure?

>> No.10403946

>>10403768
you’re a brainlet

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>>10403513
Why is there such a strong correlation between race and location of housing?
https://youtu.be/qaPQN0aW47I

Why is there such a strong correlation between the funding a school receives and the scores it produces?
https://youtu.be/od3s3lZWbWM

Must be genetic

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>>10403914
>muh socioeconomic status
Has literally nothing to do with Negro outcomes.

>> No.10403956

>>10403775
everything but genetics is a result of low IQ, not a cause

>> No.10403961

>>10403878
>Maybe IQ is measuring something like throwing rocks: useless for any modern task
meanwhile in reality it’s the best indicator of educational attainment, work performance, income, etc.
such desperate cope, it would be funny if you people didn’t unironically believe this

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>>10403952
the same gap you see from koreans in japan
is that gap genetic also?

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>>10403966
As expected of japanese genes folded over 1000 times.

>> No.10403977
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10403977

>>10403966
Obviously.

>> No.10403990

>>10403952
I never said that blacks' IQ is dependent on their socioeconomic status. You're combining a reply to an off-topic post with the OP topic.

>> No.10403998

>>10403990
So you want to ship Africans back home so they can be "equal" with other Africans, even if that means they would be objectively worse off than they are now in the United States?
Settle down, Hitler.

>> No.10404009

>>10403998
ok stalin.

>> No.10404030

>>10403577
Tell that to ND, MT, SD, WY, NE; 3rd, 7th, 13th, 14th, and 15th respectively. California is 48th, New York is 26th CO is 20th.

>> No.10404033

>>10403929
Overall SES has dramatically improved and no amount of your bs changes that.

>> No.10404051

>>10403875
How come blacks could literally not build a successful and working society for themselves in the entire history of the world? South US = shithole, Africa = shithole, Haiti = shithole. Do you see the pattern here?

>> No.10404052

Because IQ is racist.

>> No.10404060

>>10404051
They have. Whites got mad and ruined it every time.

>> No.10404083

>>10403513
Ever seen a black man watching Rick and Morty ? Must not have a very high iq

>> No.10404106

>>10403977
the chart was korean vs japan m8 it has fuck all to do with europe

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10404123

>>10404083
TO BE FAIR

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10404127

>another IQ thread

>> No.10404129

>>10404060
>whites forcibly impose civilization on blacks
>whites leave
>blacks go back to murdering each other like savages and starving to death
>f-f-fiucking white people y u do this?

>> No.10404136

>>10403513
IQ tests are flawed because they correlate intelligence with logic with various reasoning skills. This is a Western view of intelligence. I don't think Western people would do well on an IQ test based on an African view of intelligence.

>> No.10404138

>>10404129
>where my gibbs

>> No.10404141

>>10404129
>whites forcibly impose civilization on blacks
False. They conquer and exploit and then just leave.

>> No.10404142

>>10404141
ok trotsky

>> No.10404145

>>10404136
weird how Asians in Asian manage to do so well on muh western biased tests
>an African view of intelligence.
Question 1: what is the optimal length to width ratio of nose bone ornament?
Question 2: how many 12-year-old girls do you need to rape to cure AIDS?
etc

>> No.10404154

>>10404141
>muh exploitation
this explains why South Africa is a total shithole while Ethiopia is a thriving economic paradise

>> No.10404272

>>10403523
This is actually the correct answer. The presence of Neanderthal DNA seems to be correlated with Higher IQ

>>10403746
The idea of a math test implies bias. Therefore all mathematical tests which test mathematical ability are bullshit, and the study of math itself as a discipline is bullshit.

>> No.10404274

>>10403952
Ben Carson is evidence of this.

>> No.10404297

>>10403956
>what came first the chicken or the egg the post
Or
>are behaviors due to nature or nurture the post.

>> No.10404315

>>10403513
>hurr from this matrix can you select the answer that we decided is the "intelligent" one?
sounds legit
it's a way to measure things, and it can be okay as a way to define a word, but you enter into dicey territory when you conflate the nebulous idea of "intelligence" with the "intelligence" that's rated on an IQ test

>> No.10404345

>>10404315
Intelligence is not IQ and vice versa. IQ is a specific metric developed by psychometricians and is the only really "scientific" metric which the field of psychology has produced in 130 years.

>> No.10404370

>>10403513
Ive always felt certain cultures selected for better cognitive abilities. Hard to evolve intelligence in a jungle tribe.

>> No.10404371

>>10404154
You extremely exaggerate the South Africa's state.

>> No.10404376

>>10404272
Erryone has neanderthal dna anon and said DAN is so extremely minute even in the populations that have the most of it.

>> No.10404382

>>10404370
That's based on your feelings though.

>> No.10404415

>>10404274
He benefited enormously from affirmative action and other gibs

>> No.10404449

>>10404136
What is the african view of intelligence? How is it different from the apparently common view of intelligence shared by whites, asians, and jews?

>> No.10404451

>>10404376
By the way you are phrasing it and thinking about it, I could probably say everyone has banana DNA too. The Europeans actually interbred with the Neanderthals, which is not something east asians or Negroes did.

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>> No.10404638

Because of population dynamics. Surviving diseases such as black death that wipes out roughly 40% of the European population. And then centuries later the incorporation iodine into the general populace. Both events increased IQ averages and affected immunology genome wide in European populations.

This has less to do about race and more to do with ways any given population can be stratified.

>> No.10404639

>>10403513
Niggers

>> No.10404685
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10404685

>blacks excel in athletic sports
>yep makes sense they have had more selection pressures for it in africa
>black people do terribly in academics
>wow ok this is clearly just socioeconomic causes and racism

>> No.10404706

We should judge people solely based on IQ. Skin color is irrelevant.

We need meritocracy.

>> No.10404721

>>10404685
Bueno strawman.

>>10404638
Many places had the black death among many other diseases such as fucking Malaria.

>> No.10404723

>>10404451
Asians have the most neanderthal dna faggot.

>> No.10404725

>>10404685
Spot on

>> No.10404748

>>10404685
>niggers are dumb and do terribly in academics
>still rely on laws to keep them out of your schools
>niggers are ugly
>still have to pass laws forbidding race mixing even though your beautiful women should naturally avoid the ugliest people
whitey really can't seem to make up his mind

>> No.10404767

>>10404748
>still rely on laws to keep them out of your schools
there hasn't been anything like this in the US for like 60 years now you retard, in fact with the large amount of affirmative action that occurs in tertiary education its exactly the opposite. Unless you are in your 80s this doesn't affect you whatsoever
>still have to pass laws forbidding race mixing even though your beautiful women should naturally avoid the ugliest people
forbidding race mixing? Exfuckingcuse me, what laws are you talking about? I can imagine there's a possibility of these existing back in the 1800s sure but that's in no way applicable to today. Not to mention I never even said anything about how black people are ugly why are you quoting me saying that. Are you high or something?

>> No.10404771

>>10404154

Ethiopia's growing with Asian capital investment, and was never conquered by European powers.

South Africa's education and prosperity never spread beyond the white minority, which is why it's going to shit now that the black majority holds the political power.

>>10404051

You're ignoring various African civilisations - including ancient pyramid builders in modern-day Zimbabwe, and deliberately ignoring that Haiti's African-descent slave population was never educated.

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>>10404767
i was only saying is it's funny that such laws EVER existed in the first place, given how niggers have obviously always been so ugly and stupid.

>there hasn't been anything like this in the US for like 60 years now you retard
1965 specifically, 54 years ago.
age of the average brainlet "boomer" is 65.
legislation can't eliminate peoples' attitudes. it took the national guard to get 9 niggers into a white classroom.
do you think the boomers just gave up and went home? would they set about dutifully enforcing the new laws when they got elected into government? or would they try to undermine them instead? see >>10403950

>forbidding race mixing? Exfuckingcuse me, what laws are you talking about? I can imagine there's a possibility of these existing back in the 1800s
nice imagination, now get fucked again by facts, faggot: Loving vs Virginia was decided in 1967.
but millenials unironically believe that anything over 30 years ago is ancient greece.
inb4 you equate having perspective on history and current events to "being a victim"

>> No.10404813

>>10404771
>which is why it's going to shit now that the black majority holds the political power.

It was "going to shit" long before hat though.

>> No.10404818

>>10403522
Wasnt homo erectus native to Asia/China?

>> No.10404832

>>10404721

The difference is that black death killed +100 million in a span of a decade. Which left no time for birthrates to properly replace the population thus stratification occurred. Other diseases like malaria are long term diseases that kills upward of 430k a year by WHO estimates. In a span of 10 years that's 4.3 million. To get to the 100 million figure it would need to be around 240 years. That's well more than enough time for replacement rates. Even if you want to ignore modern treatments and double the death rates to 860k a year, it would be 8.6 million in a decade and require about 120 years to get +100 million.

The two epidemics don't even compare.

>> No.10404839

>>10404813

Nope, not before London stabbed them in the back with hypocritical sanctions.

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>>10404051
>How come blacks could literally not build a successful and working society for themselves in the entire history of the world?
What makes you think a stable hunter-gatherer society isn't "successful" and "working"? These people are happier than you will ever be, and they have far lower rates of mental illness than those stuck in the hellish grind of modern living.

>South US = shithole
Weird how a region where 80% of the population used to be slaves is a shithole.

>Africa = shithole
Weird how a continent plundered and pillaged by Europe for centuries is a shithole.

>Haiti = shithole
Weird how a country blockaded and sanctioned since its first day of existence is a shithole.

>Do you see the pattern here?
The pattern is that you're consistently a retard and brainlet, and should go back to /pol/

>> No.10404850

>>10404807
>approximately 60 years
>actually its 54
wow you sure showed him

>> No.10404856

>>10404771
>which is why it's going to shit now that the black majority holds the political power.
that was my point u absolute brainlet lmao

>> No.10404857

>>10404844
>These people are happier than you will ever be,
>*dies of AIDS*

>> No.10404860

>>10404345
Sure but IQ and g in particular has more predictive power than other posited forms of intelligence.

>> No.10404864

>>10404748
>still rely on laws to keep them out of your schools

??????? The exact, precise opposite is happening. If it weren't for affirmative action laws and racial preferences in top 20 universities, there would be almost no black people in top 20 universities based on SAT-fair admissions.
There are no more anti-miscegination laws and dating site data shows that white women are the most "loyal" in terms of remaining in intraracial relationships. You literally live in a topsy-turvy clown world where everything is exactly the opposite of what is actually happening.

>> No.10404874

>>10404807
Once again, black sexual success amongst whites is overblown and black people being kept out of schools historically happened because black people are a pain in the ass in a very great many different ways. One way being that they always push grievance politics when they inevitably suck compared to any non-black populations they are placed in, in addition to being loud, annoying, and violent. It has nothing to do with being afraid of being outcompeted. We already have a natural experiment in which blacks were segregated in schools and the exact opposite in which they are forced by fiat into college programs by non-meritorious standards, and the gaps remain the same. Case closed.

>> No.10404875

>>10404857
*dies of stroke/preventable cancer/obesity/heart disease*

>> No.10404877

>>10403794
Me on the right

>> No.10404878

>>10404875
>preventable
me 1, africa 0

>> No.10404882

>>10403950
Easy: because across-district variations are more likely to result from racial variations. In wealthier districts, blacks and hispanics receive more funding than white students. The Louisiana school clip happens because it is in a black area, period.

>> No.10404889

Why racism has such a strong correlation with having a lower IQ?

https://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

>> No.10404901

>>10403513
>>10404889
Because there is an undeniable tie between demographics (income) and both racism/race, and there is also another undeniable tie between income and intelligence.

>> No.10404907

>>10404874
>black people are a pain in the ass in a very great many different ways.

Shitty excuse.

>> No.10404911

>>10403513
I notice how you omitted Asians.

Also most of that (although admittedly not all) is due to living in poorer neighbours (especially in the 80's) and worse education.

>> No.10404914

>>10404832
It only killed 50 million brah. Also malaria was a huge problem back then among other diseases they crippled fertility or made areas uninhabitable (tsetse fly). Africa's population has always been historically low as fuck.

>> No.10404932

>>10404878

>implying most Africans die of AIDS

non-brainlets 1, you 0

>> No.10404937

>>10403768
You are strawmenning the IQ argument by only responding to IQ absolutists. IQ is not bullshit, why? Its not because of any principle within the test itself, its because scoring high on an IQ test correlates with life success, strongly.

People can under perform on IQ tests, so its not always useful to use them to judge individuals, but across populations IQ scores have correlations with success, especially in (surprise surprise) complex fields of work. It even correlates with brain size.

The statistical correlation is stronger than many other correlations statistics reveals that everyone takes for granted. I find it hard to believe that people who vehemently deny IQ significance are simply so invested in the idea that they can't find any other way to cope with their low (or anticipated low) scores.

https://samharris.org/podcasts/forbidden-knowledge/

I'm open to any denial of science or statistics, but at least educate yourself so you can make a less amateurish argument.

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>>10403513

Is there ANY Intelligence test in which Blacks score higher than Whites or Asians?

>> No.10404944

>>10404911
rich blacks underperform relative to middle class asians and whites and

>> No.10404948

>>10404723
Asians have the highest average IQ but they do not have Neanderthal DNA. Only Europeans and some Middle Easterners have Neanderthal DNA.

Neanderthals were literally in Europe and not in Asia so I have no idea where you got that from.

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>>10403513
Look at it this way: no one has a problem accepting that Jews or Asians have higher IQs than whites. IQ scores and genetics correlate across populations, this does not make stereotyping acceptable, as the SJWs on this board fear.

Its actually extremely ironic that this reasoning drives the SJWs of IQ science, since their line of reasoning is:

>Stereotyping is bad.
>Differences in IQ give reason to stereotype... therefore
>IQ tests are biased and/or insignificant

The irony here is that IQ tests do in fact correlate with life outcomes (and even brain size), so if the SJWs were to accept the truth they would also retroactively accept stereotyping as okay, as it is the motivation for their denial in the first place.

>> No.10404951

>>10404948
lol

>> No.10404953

I feel like with enough practice or exposure to relevant topics, anyone with a 100IQ can rise to 150+ IQ. My IQ has been 135 for years and I've never attempted to actually practice for it. But I'm sure if I decided to train for IQ testing I could probably score near 160. So IQ testing is basically the familiarity with the topics which are relevant in academic performance in terms of deep understanding which allow people to manipulate the relevant systems (finances, career, innovation, etc) needed to be considered successful by the average person. I'm not sure if IQ really determines intelligence, I wish there was a test that tested peoples mental space size, so the ability to hold many different layers of information pertaining to one system and applying it logically to a problem. And the larger they can go through basic understanding and logic rather than forced memorization would IMO be a better approximation of intelligence.