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Where does this massive increase in the number of transgender people over the last five years come from?
What does the current medical literature say about this increase?

>> No.10398642

>>10398641
I remember something about some boards here blackamiling people to change their genders

>> No.10398646

>>10398641
>Where does this massive increase in the number of transgender people over the last five years come from?
Unconditional love bombing is highly attractive to certain people. You'll get that in spades """coming out""" as trans.
>What does the current medical literature say about this increase?
"omg, that's like so problematic and patriarchal of you"

>> No.10398656

Literally :
>be beta male (see natalie mars before and after)
>no attention from women
>start watching porn
>associate pleasure to watching weiners in porn
>start liking weiners but not men
>still lonely beta with no gf
>decide to post on a board one day
>get tons of attention from other beta males who cant get women, and actual homos
>decide to cross dress
>attention and positive reinforcement goes up 100000%
>people are finally sexually interested in you, and because you were a beta, you are naturally submissive and go with it
>rationalize to yourself that you aren't gay because you are really "a girl"
>become homo in a dress
fin

>> No.10398664

>>10398656
The majority of trannies are not random anons here. That doesn't account for females-to-males either.

>> No.10398668

Lots of people, I'd say most people, go through the grass is greener plus autosexual phase where they imagine what it's like to be the opposite gender, I'd wager that the majority of people went through it some time in school. Bit instead of growing out of it, they are now told they were born that way, and they can actualy change their sex, so some do it. Have you seen how sex changes are advertised vs what it's like irl? There are a shitload of blogs of trans things that went from 'everything will be great after I get the surgery' to 'o god I want to die instead of forcing a dildo into my wound for 3h a day till I pass out from the pain'. So it's 4 things:
>The increased acceptance of transes
>the idea that if you question your sexuality it's because you were born as something else, and you'll never be able to change that mindset
>The willingness of doctors to perform the surgeries and therapies even though it hurts the patients
>The propaganda that the treatment will make everything better and has no side effects

>> No.10398671

>>10398641
These people are mentally ill. Imagine chopping your dick off to roleplay as a woman.

The suicide rate for transnigger freaks are high and I want it to grow even more.

>> No.10398672

>>10398641
Mass hysteria. I don't think that all of these trannies are really trans (?) some just jumped in the bandwagon bc it's 'IT' or trendy. Maybe it's a way coping to a discomfort that they are feeling (being gay) - separate case from being a real gender diasporic/mentally ill

>> No.10398675

Social engineering to achieve some predetermined goal

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>> No.10398707

>this massive increase in the number of transgender people over the last five years
What massive increase? It’s literally just the media reporting on them more.

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>>10398707
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/health/transgender-population.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/05/more-u-s-teens-identify-transgender-survey-finds/306357002/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/

>> No.10398717

>>10398641
Single motherhood and the destruction of masculinity

>> No.10398728

>>10398716
That graph is the reported proportion of trans people in the population per survey. Your last link says
>Because contemporary surveys more often collect transgender-inclusive gender-identity data, and secular trends in culture and the media have created a somewhat more favorable environment for transgender people, it is possible that the measured size of the transgender population has increased over time, rendering previous reports of population size even less applicable today
This implies that the number of trans people was previously underreported, and their apparent increase in number was due to erroneous surveys

>> No.10398765

>>10398656
Based and redpilled

>> No.10398782

>>10398641
they are faggots

>> No.10398816

less social pressure to stay in the closet.

>> No.10398826

>>10398656
>>10398717
I think a large reason for that is that traditional masculinity lies largely in shambles, but being a more feminine beta or androgyne male is still not really accepted unless you are gay or bi, so that many deeply confused teens and young teens end up identifying as trans, especially after they find stuff like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/egg_irl/ .

>> No.10398827

>>10398664
>females-to-males

Like 1-2% of all trannies are ftm.

>> No.10398862

>>10398641
/r9k/ discord tranny brainwashing club

>> No.10398879

>>10398641
NPC theory. most humans have no original thought and no ablility to reach and process their own thought processes as such they go with what is told to them.
I literally come across people like this and examples are littered everywhere

yeah sure anon, having million refugees from a culture that is diametrically opposed to us without even pressuring them to assimilate will be totally awesome for us in our open and welcoming country in the future...oh never mind if they have a religion that is totally at odds with our value system.

Sure anon, going to war and spending 5 trillion dollars while our country suffers from a lack of infrastructure and chronic problems which are bubbling up, while allowing millions of illegals to stay in our country to work for extremely cheap labor...oh by the way we want 15 bux an hour to flip burgers, totally normal anons.

Sure anon, i guess because i saw my son, playing with his sister's dolls and gi joes i guess that means i need to start him on a lifelong process of HRT depriving him of going through puberty and eventually chop his dick off at a later point in time with the risk of cancer and eventually an above normal rate of suicide, greater than even holocaust survivors.

>> No.10398880

>>10398697
im beginning to think between this and late term abortions they are trying to cull the population in a way that doesnt lead to revolt or concentration camps with ovens

>> No.10398887

Technology is sentient and it's assimilating us into it's borg of genderless automatons. The new man and woman are closer to neutral than ever, soon we will transcend the need to have sex to reproduce and the distinction between man and woman, chiefly originating from the pubis, emanating and absorbing respectively, will be phased out in it's entirety as we become non-sexual beings of the mind without the body. You can see it happening now, 23% of the male population of Japan is asexual, expect these numbers to rise and the disparity between those with stable hormonal balances and those without to grow immensely.

>> No.10398891

>>10398880
It's not about that because they are perfectly willing to feed and import people who will breed. What it is about however is destroying all vestiges of individuality and free thought.

A totally collective and female society. No masculinity, no oppression, just total stagnation.

>> No.10398909

>>10398641
>massive increase in the number of transgender people over the last five years
Source?

>> No.10398914

>>10398656
i'm only at step 6, screw being a tranny tho

>> No.10398941

>>10398641
A: Social pressure
B: Nothing if they want to keep funding and not get involved in huge drama from TRAs

>> No.10398977

>>10398891
im curious how they will deal with the muslims

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They were always there but you just didn't notice because they kept their fucking mouths shut and blended in like normal folks just like the gays used to

Now the gays got rights and they want theirs so they gotta fuck up gender for all of us now like the gays fucked marriage

>> No.10399003

social contagion. don’t submit articles about the phenomenon, though, you’ll be censored

>> No.10399102
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10399102

Rapid onset gender dysphoria, social media contagion, Soros and Open society and friends pushing gender identity ideology, trans activists taking over psychology and medicine and insisting "affirmation only" approach, massive push from a big pharma to medicalise for life using offlabel meds (lupron), silencing dissent and dehumanizing those criticizing gender itself (TERFs), trans activists insisting that it's transphobia to not believe a person's gender identity, clickbait articles lying and saying there is scientific proof you can be born in the wrong body, trans activists writing policy for police and social media, trans activists changing the law with no consultation with the general public, parents wanting to believe they have a "special child" and transing their kids (the new autism), trans activists piggybacking gender identity onto the completely different existing sexuality-based LGB movement and taking over.

Take your fucking pick.

>> No.10399106

I also suspect it's a form of "faith" that people are using to fill a hole in their "soul" in an increasingly irreligious society. I think people crave identity and meaning and community and we've lost that. So now we have "gender", which is an insanely recent concept.

Theres 0 credible science behind an innate gender but people are convinced there is.

>> No.10399119

>>10398641
There aren't more of them. There simply are more of them who finally have the confidence to speak out. They suffered from their mental disability for the past 20 years but were too afraid to state it publically. That's all that has changed, really. People get support on social media, get the attention they crave.

>> No.10399127

>>10399119
>not more of them

You're a fucking idiot if you legitimately believe that. People are now forced to have a "gender identity", a label that is not easily understood and based on wishy washy stereotypes. It stresses children out and confuses them, particularly autistic children, hence the high correlation between autism and trans kids. We should be telling kids they can do and like whatever they want, not that they're born in the wrong body if they feel a bit different. Its sexist and regressive as fuck.

>> No.10399141

>>10398879
your post was interesting but nobody answered so im giving you a (You)

>> No.10399145

>>10399127
What you're talking about is a) not a group of actual trans-people and b) an extremely minor subset of individuals. Now that people accepted homosexuals, transexuals are the next on the agenda. Hence the media pushes acceptance, and so do politicians. As a result you don't suddenly get more transpeople who truly believe that their DNA is lying. You simply get more people who admit to being mentally defunct, publically. After all, now they can finally get the support the homos have received for the past 20 years. What you're implying is that sexually is first and foremost developed through nurture. There's not a shred of evidence that supports this.

Given the increased support there will obviously be people who pretend to have trans tendencies despite not having any, but those bad eggs cancel out the ones who are still delusional about their sexual orientation. People are being asked a question and they give an answer, that's what those polls are based on. If support and acceptance are high, more people will admit to something. Same shit would happen if pedophilia was suddenly accepted. You think pedophiles would suddenly sprout like weeds? No, they always existencd. They simply didn't admit it.

>> No.10399171

>>10399145
>Now that people accepted homosexuals, transexuals are the next on the agenda
People dont realise sexuality and gender identity are completely different concepts though and they need to. One is a scientific reality and the other is essentially a religion.

People are googling "am I trans?" and the information and communities they get are telling them "if you're asking, you probably are".

This doesnt happen with sexuality to the same level because sexuality is easy to ascertain. "What is my gender?" is a fucking impossible question to expect someone (particularly children) to answer unless you simply rely on stereotypes. It's all complete crap.

>> No.10399172

>>10398641

Dysphoria is just a form of dissociation and a side effect of other mental illnesses. Cutting the dick off might help temporarily until the person has found some new "problem" area to focus on, but the real cause will persist.

Autism Spectrum Disorders in Gender Dysphoric Children and Adolescents:
https://archive.fo/psaP6
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4396787/

Autism in trans adults:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1362361317714587

Living between genders, links between autism and gender dysphoria:
https://archive.is/fqGX9

Increased gender variance in autism spectrum disorders and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24619651

Psychiatric Axis I Comorbidities among Patients with Gender Dysphoria:
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/psychiatry/2014/971814/

Personality Disorders in Persons with Gender Identity Disorder:
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/809058/

The frequency of personality disorders in patients with gender identity disorder:
http://mjiri.iums.ac.ir/browse.php?a_id=2444&slc_lang=en&sid=1&ftxt=1

Dissociative symptoms in individuals with gender dysphoria: is the elevated prevalence real?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25656174

Borderline personality disorder is more frequent in the mothers of children with GID:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2016237

Rapid-onset gender dysphoria spreads through groups of friends and may be a harmful coping mechanism:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

>> No.10399178

>>10399145
>an extremely minor subset of individuals.
The problem is this extremely minor subset of people have an incredibly power lobby behind them and they're changing the language we use in daily life, as well as our laws, based on a belief system.

>> No.10399180

>>10399106
I want nothing to do with the trans community though.

Transitioning is more or less a means of managing suffering, I've been on pills for a year but still dress and present male.

>> No.10399186

>>10398879
>NPC theory. most humans have no original thought and no ablility to reach and process their own thought processes as such they go with what is told to them.
>I literally come across people like this and examples are littered everywhere
The idea that philosophical zombies exist is nothing new. But what is actually happening is that other people have other priorities and are ignorant about your interests, but because you're stupid you assume they don't care about anything at all, and that they can't even think (Dunning kruger effect).

>> No.10399187

>>10398671
I know right? God forbid we have empathy for the mentally ill and try to find a way to help them lol.

Not even pedophiles get as much hate anymore.

>> No.10399190

>>10399180
The fact that transition is the only approved treatment now is the problem, and that comorbid conditions (depression, anxiety, etc) have gone from "treat these first before the gender dysphoria and it may fix it" to "DONT TREAT THESE AT ALL. ONLY TREAT THE GD AND ONLY TREAT IT WITH AFFIRMATION OF DELUSIONS AND TRANSITION, BECAUSE TRANSPHOBIA"

Best of luck with feeling comfortable with yourself anon. Remember, you dont "have" a body. You are a body. Every part of you is you and you dont need to change or re-label yourself. None of you is wrong. Society is wrong for making you think you should identity as something you're not. Much love

>> No.10399193

>>10399187
>pedos
Sorry we call them "minor attracted people" now, bigot.

>> No.10399194

>>10399187
To be fair. The second people accepted homosexuals, pedophiles should have been accepted too. They share what is essentially the exact same condition. A pedophile is as little a criminal yet as a homo. To become one he needs to first rape, molest or abuse. If people want to tell me that I am supposed to be accepting of homosexuals and transgenders, then I am also accepting of pedophiles. They've been dealt the worst hand imagineable and won't ever be able to legally satisfy their sexual drive. If anything, these people should be pitied, not demonized.

>> No.10399217

>>10398641
Most trannies are transtrenders.

Remember the emo phase of the mid-late 2000s? Transtrenderism is basically the new phase.

Why are there so many more MtF trannies? Why so many trannies in the speedrunning community? T R A N S T R E N D E R S

Also the non-transtrenders probably suffer from autogynephilia

>> No.10399247

>>10398656
Fuck this gay earth

>> No.10399249

>>10398707
lol you idiot. go find any interview with sex change clinics or cousellors. they're like 'lol-we had about one person a year come to us for about two decades. in 2016 we have had 300 patients and in 2018 well let me tell ya. we're doing iron man numbers'

>> No.10399260

>>10398656
>/pol/ psychology
Oh boy!

>> No.10399262

>>10399141
nobody responded because he is (ironically?) rote regurgitating a lame meme

>> No.10399266

>>10399217
>Why so many trannies in the speedrunning community?
Autism, see:
>>10399172

>> No.10399269

>>10399190
thanks a lot anon, i've never gotten this sort of advice from someone in opposition to the general consensus of modern treatment.

>>10399217
how does one distinguish a transtrender from a non-trestrender?

coming from someone only attracted to guys and showed early signs of dysphoria well before transgender was a household word and never associated with any sort of scene stuff either.

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>>10398641
Expansion of the definition of transgender, targeting children for sex children, and LGBTQ propaganda
>>10398879
I genuinely think this is true. But the divide is between introverts and extroverts. Ideas are sort of like a disease, they spread like fire. Extroverts, due to peer pressure have no choice but to adopt the beliefs of the people that immediately surround them. Only introverts have the CHOICE to adopt an idea, and the vast majority of the time, with that liberty, they choose to go their own way.
Extroverts are NPCs, introverts are main characters.

>> No.10399316

>>10399269
Nobody fits in a neat gender label, dysphoranon. It's all crap. We have a sex and we have sexuality and we have a personality. Said personality can have feminine or masculine traits. We are not one thing. Dont let society put you in a box, fren. Be a feminine man who loves taking cock and enjoys girly things. You dont need medicine. You dont need surgery. You need to be free to be you while also accepting your biological reality. You will not be happy if you are living a lie. Society will also never fully accept those lies so you'll constantly encounter people who "invalidate" your trans identity. Dont poison your body with pills you dont need that do nothing but make big pharma rich.

"Gender" is fucking stupid and is the ultimate fucking first world issue. It's a new label that we don't need.

Please get the help you need and if you're feeling up to it, be a voice of reason against the barbarism of transing children who are too young to understand what they're signing up for.

<3

t. gay faggot who never fit male gender norms and would have been transed if I grew up today

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>>10399269
*targeting children for sex changes, specifically hormone therapy
Truly if you are unlucky enough to be born to some leftists parents, or even worse, a single mother feminist, you can reasonable exchange to have doctors chop off your dick.

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>>10399318
The worst part is, children who present with gender dysphoria usually go on to be comfortable with their body and end up as happy healthy homosexuals IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH PUBERTY

But if a child has puberty stopped with blockers, they are almost guaranteed to go on to cross-sex hormones and transition, when there was an 85%+ chance that being allowed to go through puberty would have cured their GD.

Puberty is so fucking important for healthy development of the brain and we're playing God by stopping it with off-label cancer drugs. It's fucking madness. And they're pushing to allow blockers and cross sex hormones even earlier than they to stop the expression of natural secondary sex characteristics and ensure a more "passing" transition.

>> No.10399333

>>10399310
>Extroverts, due to peer pressure have no choice but to adopt the beliefs of the people that immediately surround them.
Extroverted people with actual force of personality don't bend to peer pressure though. It bends to them because they lead the clique

>> No.10399375

>>10399316
can't fucking believe I'm seeing such good advice on 4chan
to add my 2 cents, you can find a partner who will treat you like a female which takes care of 90% of this problem

>> No.10399378

https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/the-elephant-in-the-room-dc822144a81b

https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/the-new-homophobic-bridge-to-nowhere-child-transition-c621d6188d6e

Please read and share all 3. Take the time to see what is behind this insidious ideology.

>> No.10399389

>>10399190
>Best of luck with feeling comfortable with yourself anon. Remember, you dont "have" a body. You are a body. Every part of you is you and you dont need to change or re-label yourself. None of you is wrong. Society is wrong for making you think you should identity as something you're not. Much love

If I want bigger muscles, I work out. If I want softer skin and different fat distribution, I...

>> No.10399391

>>10399378
>behind this insidious ideology
same thing that's behind the drug culture industry. money. retards.

>> No.10399401

>>10399375
I dont know, I was dating a guy who was definitely the man in the relationship and he loved and treated me like he would a wife, but hated me doing things like shaving my legs and poked fun at me for having a skincare routine.

currently just meet up with a gay guy who has no issues with me on hormones who treats me more like a woman but that just seems like a rare circumstance.

>> No.10399409

>>10399375
More men need to speak up about the danger of gender identity ideology. It's primarily women and children being affected so there's very much a "lol this trans shit is crazy but it doesnt affect me so whatever" attitude amongst men.

My eyes weren't opened until I watched my friend's autogynephilic husband "transition" and fuck up their entire family with his socially-promoted mental illness/fetish. Then I started looking into what's behind this Trans movement and how it has co-opted the existing LGB movement.

>In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed.
>Theodore Dalrymple

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>>10399332
>tfw you realize you didn't consent to puberty
>tfw you realize you didn't consent to evolution by natural selection
>tfw you're being metaphysically raped by the universe

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10399422

>>10399378
>ramblings of a schizo on a personal blog that is designed to look like a news website

>> No.10399424

>>10399401
>someone made fun of me and now i'm taking hormones
wtf is this supposed to prove other than you being a poor bastard who can't recognize the signs of his own medical illness

>> No.10399427

>>10399389
>If I want bigger muscles, I work out. If I want softer skin and different fat distribution, I...
Moisturize and accept that my fat distribution will always largely be based on sex and therefore something you need to accept?

Super simple stuff. We all have things about us we want to change. Part of growing up and being a mature adult is learning to accept those things. Unnatural medicine and mutilation are never the answer. Mold your mind, not your shell. Telling people that their body is "wrong" is fucked up. Teach people to love and be confident in their bodies, and defy gender stereotypes.

>> No.10399429

>>10399409
uck that's fucked
the cuteboi aesthetic is so powerful too, idk why people think there's only one path to a happy life for them

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>>10399389
there's a difference between gaining muscle by working out, and pic related

>> No.10399438

>>10399422
I really like that image lmao

>> No.10399460

>>10399422
>DONT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN OR YOU'RE A SCHIZO. ONLY ACCEPT INFORMATION ABOUT GENDER FROM AUTHORIZED MEDIA SOURCES UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE TRANS LOBBY
k

>> No.10399514

>>10398641
more acceptance/tolerance, greater social pressure, and greater media coverage. simple as that

>> No.10399526

>>10398656
/thread

>> No.10399529

>>10399409
It's using groundwork that was created for it. As I see it:
Destroy community by creating the nuclear family->Destroy the nuclear family with feminism->Claim that there is no difference between men and women->Claim that gender is strictly social->Claim that gender simply doesn't exist->Institute social trends that make the men into women, and the women into men->In this pseudo-neuter state neither sex can operate effectively->misery and cultural paralysis grows->everyone begins to hate and resent everyone else, and themselves->use this accordingly to fluidly polarize populations into near arbitrary groups.

Meanwhile, the men now no longer protect the women and children. The women no longer use their intuition and resent motherhood, seeing that they're finally free of its bondage. State controlled childcare is seen as a major victory. They finally have near full control over your kids practically from the cradle.

Among other things. It is a vicious agenda. Something has been done to these people as well, they don't even make sense. Watch the Twilight Zone episode "Number 12 looks just like you". It resonated with me so deeply because I could feel my own everyday life through every "out there" scene.

>> No.10399723

>>10398671
That's taboo Anon, take care.
"There's nothing wrong with those mentally challanged people, ups, I meant trans people."

>> No.10399726

>>10399194
This is so wrong holy shit.
The thing is, children under the age of 16-18 don't know what the want to do with their live. So a pedophile can have all the power over that child. It's something completely different when it comes to gay ppl.

Imagine if we accepted pedos, some children would be together with them, and then regretted it. And intercourse at such a young age can be something fairly catastrophic for such a young child.

>> No.10399730

>>10399187
I recall there was a "pedo" movement in LGBTQ at some point. Only after a few days/weeks LGBTQ told them to fck off.

>> No.10399734

>>10399217
Trannies in the speedrunning communtiy topic makes me laugh.

Freacking Cosmo Wright/Narcissa Wright nonsense, at least she loves what she does I guess. It's just so sad that she didn't get help though.

>> No.10399785

>>10399734
>at least she loves what she does I guess
he cries on stream all the time

>> No.10400095

I thought this was supposed to be science board.

>> No.10400105

>>10400095
It's math:
>massive increase in the number

>> No.10400274

>>10399726
>So a pedophile can have all the power over that child. It's something completely different when it comes to gay ppl.
This has nothing to do with pedophilia you illiterale. That's the crime they commit. Read: Molestation, rape or exploitation of a minor. Pedophilia is merely a sexual preference. It's not illegal in any country on this planet.

Being accepting of pedophilia doesn't mean you're accepting of them having intercourse with minors. Learn the difference you fucking retard.

>> No.10400279

The world is poised to turn all beta males into those who will die as virgins or become trannies and get laid. We will accelerate this future by converting all robots on /r9k/ into MtF girls. Our job is to accelerate human evolution. In the future 60% of all born men will converted into tgirls with HRT and surgery if they don't have enough masculine features or if their genes predispose them towards a life of rejection by women if they grow up as "men". They are not men. They are girls (male)

>> No.10400288

>>10400279
Sexual orientation does not exist. There is only straight people, and trans people. Chads who have gender dysphoria need it cured by any means necessary since they are supposed to go for cis girls and pass on their chad genes.
People who are beta males and are attracted to masculinity are HSTS. People who are beta males and attracted to feminity as AGP

>> No.10400306

Nobody wants to admit it, but it's a social virus. Why else would would their populations occur in tight geographical clusters?

>> No.10400314

>>10399726
>16-18
>pedophile
I see brainlets throwing big words around.

>> No.10400317

>>10400314
>t. pedophile

>> No.10400327

>>10400317
Not even him but for someone to be a pedophile it requires sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Maybe your development was delayed but normal people don't enter puberty in their 20s.

>> No.10400344

>>10399726

>>10399726
>The thing is, children under the age of 16-18

Ahh of course! The magical emergence into maturity and adulthood when a certain number of days on this earth is lived. Like a butterfly emerging from the chrysalis, at 18 years old a person is fully mature and independent in thought and action! They are no mere 'child' at this point anymore than a butterfly is a caterpillar!

>> No.10400350

>>10399726
>And intercourse at such a young age can be something fairly catastrophic for such a young child.

Citation needed. There is no harm if the sex is consentual, regardless of age. It is a dirty little secret in sexology that vast majority of so called "victims" do not regret it, and those who do, it is because of violence or coercion, not the sex itself.

>> No.10400371

I thought this was science... it's called gender dysphoria you lazy transphobic mongs. Yes a lot of them are trenders and faggots but there are some genuine trans people out there who you people lump in with the others.

>> No.10400376

>>10400288


Fuck off with your blanchard pseudoscience

>> No.10400394

>>10398642
No way that accounts for the massive increase, that's probably happened once or twice in all human history.

>> No.10400407

maybe because it's more socially acceptable. but then again, social pressures couldn't ever force me to be the opposite gender so i'm not sure how that worked before. it has probably more to do with progressive parents confronting their children with ideas their children can't possibly understand.

>> No.10400417

>>10398977
I think they expect the natives to do it for them via violent revolts and/or have perfected the psychosocial conditioning of american culture to the point where the children of the immigrants will leave the religion and become identical to the natives in their beliefs, value systems, culture, and therefore will also display the sams (population decreasing) behavioral tendencies.
This goes for any immigrant group, not just Muslims.

>> No.10400422
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It's actually hilarious how this entire topicality has changed society on very basic levels. Club culture is extremely big in my country. I am not talking afterschool clubs, but actually outsourced clubs people run out of self interest. Sports clubs in particular, most of which exist for parents to spend more time with their children by taking on voluntary positions as coaches. Back in my day, nobody had a problem showering with team mates. Everybody was naked, it wasn't a big deal. But nowadays, due to the more widespread acceptance of homo- and transsexuals, this has become significantly more complicated because the straight people, 12 or 20, it doesn't matter, obviously feel pretty uneasy showering around them. Intimacy is being lost becuase of tolerance. Pretty funny how that works.

I don't think there's more transsexuals, there's simply more who admit to being trans. Thing is: Telling people changes everything.

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Reminder that trannies never pass.
They delude themselves into thinking they pass by taking carefully angled pics. They think that a cashier calling them "ma'am" means that they look like a woman, not that the wageslave doesn't want to get screamed at by a crazy man in a dress. They hang out in tranny hugboxes where other crossdressing men tell them how cute and feminine they are. When they finally realize that they will never look like a real woman no matter how much they mutilate their body, they kill themselves. Hence the 40% suicide rate.

>> No.10400452

>>10400424
reminds me of the Kamabakka Kingdom in one piece

>> No.10400459

Its kind of like the new "goth". Its a social club you can join that automatically elevates your status

before going trans
>weird loser with mental issues

after trans
>victim, brave, strong, heroic, fighting oppression, standing up for your rights

As a "normal" person, your problems are your own. But as an LGBTQ person, your problems are externalized onto society. Its not your fault you are a fucking loser with no friends, its because of the oppressive hetero-normative society we live in.

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>>10398641
My hypothesis is that it's caused by chronic stress and environmental toxins disrupting brain development of the hypothalamus and other sexually dimorphic brain regions.

Hormones are very powerful and we don't fully understand how they shape neurological development. It could be that your internal proprioceptive map is altered by endocrine hormones, thus causing gender dysphoria.

There's also a more accepting culture around coming out, so that is another variable if not the only one contributing to increases in the number of trans people we see going into clinics.

Pic related for most of the other explanations in this thread that are completely ignorant of human psychology and neuroscience.

>> No.10400465

>>10398656
Hot

>> No.10400467

>>10398728
This /thread

>> No.10400474

Evolution

>> No.10400490

>>10398641
>massive increase in the number of transgender people

Nah...

Same number of people but more awareness through the media. More acceptance in society will result in more people being brave enough to experiment too I suppose. I guess Maybe more gay kids are becoming transsexual through awareness but they would have been super gay in any case.

>> No.10400512

>>10398671
that could be due to the crazy hormone fluctuations and chaos, when they try to beat nature.

>> No.10400517

>>10398717
endocrine disruptors are everywhere. dishsoap, deoderant, pesticides etc. they are everywhere.
it makes men have less testosterone and women more testosterone.
got to stop producing and consuming all these things.

>> No.10400651

>>10398641
It's all social pressures. Social pressures to not suck at fitting the image of your gender have not exactly gone up, but the amount of things distracting us from worrying about BS (like having to function productively 18 hours a day without internet) has gone down. The bigger part is that social pressures keeping people from going down the drastic, dysfunctional and nonsensical path of "becoming the opposite gender" are being rapidly torn down. People are massively influenced by social pressures, much more than the vast majority of people ever realize, so if society says that's both possible and OK then people are going to do it. Of course they do it to escape their own insecurities. They feel like they fail at fitting the image in their head of what their gender is supposed to be, that it's too hard for them and they're not good at it, so they give up and become trans, which removes the sense of accountability to fit an image they were uncomfortable with. It's mostly just because some people are stupid about what they think it means to be a certain gender "correctly" and have inflexible and shallow ideas about it that aren't very functional. But ultimately the current increase is down to the shift in society "empowering" so many people to make this decision to transition. It has nothing to do with biology, though I guess could be a possibility of certain factors like media technology affecting developmental psychology or even hormones in some way.

>> No.10400707

>>10398641
It's become a very big topic that all the sensitive types are forced to support, making not only all of the tranny's that kept it a secret crawling out of the wood work looking for positive reinforcement of their condition, it also makes those hundreds of thousands of extremely desperate attention seekers a new things to latch onto in the pursuit of gratification
To put it simply it became excepted and then over excepted which is now souring people's opinions on it so it's going to swing back and forth between hatred and exceptence for a few generations until the momentum dies down

>> No.10400949 [DELETED] 

its also a confusion of duality which is inherent in the human brain. oh im not like men i dont like e.g football/dancing and im not like "the" boiz/girlz i must be gay or trans.
if im not this i must be that. black and white thinking. then ideas get into peoples heads about transgender being a thing whereas being a man or woman is a spectrum. some people do have more opposite to appearance genes too and everyone is looking for their sense of self from a dualistic mind.

>> No.10400952

its also a confusion of duality which is inherent in the human brain. oh im not like men/women i dont like e.g football/dancing and im not like "the" boiz/girlz i must be gay or trans.
if im not this i must be that. black and white thinking. then ideas get into peoples heads about transgender being a thing whereas being a man or woman is a spectrum. some people do have more opposite to appearance genes too and everyone is looking for their sense of self from a dualistic mind.

>> No.10400957

>>10400424
>They think that a cashier calling them "ma'am" means that they look like a woman, not that the wageslave doesn't want to get screamed at by a crazy man in a dress

If this was true someone would have called me a man by now since I haven't been in safe spaces the entire fucking time. this logic is so retarded.

>> No.10400977

>>10400707
>excepted
or accepted?

if super christians and muslims are breeding at the rate they are, gay marriage and tranny stuff will be put back into the bottle in a couple generations.

as an anecdote, Lenin decriminalized homosexuality then stalin came into power and make it,pornography and any degeneray totally illegal.
Personally all this hyper feminization of the west is merely an attack plan to weak the west so its easier to take over.A nation of basedboys, trannys and fags arent going to stand a chance against hardended muslim jihadists,russians, chinese, super christians who have known hardship or war since birth.
Best believe when weak enough, armies wont even need to wage war, theyll just stroll right in.

>> No.10401041

>>10400977

just cause im a tranny doesnt mean im not going to fight. or havent faced hardship you dumb fuck.

>> No.10401068

>>10401041
yeah because youve faced the exact same hardship and battle readiness as the Taliban in Afghanistan le 40%

>> No.10401069

>>10398641
indoctrination

>> No.10401072

>>10400957
The vast majority of people are too polite to say anything, even if they hate trannies. The idea that trannies, gays, etc. can't leave the house without someone screaming slurs at them is a liberal myth. People generally mind their own business.

>> No.10401085

>>10398879
Now only a minority of the younger generation identifies as heterosexual. So trying to make themselves unique they are now the majority. You can’t tell me that some of this is because it is trendy. About 30% of the lgbt community thinks it is detrimental to society because of how mainstream the idea is. We have the media questioning fucking 8 yr olds on their sexuality. Squeaky wheel gets the oil though

>> No.10401088

>>10401072

ive heard this stupid fucking logic before it's retarded and not real. no one is coddling trans people in the real world dumbass. you either pass or you dont. i distinctly remember what its like because i experienced it. they will call you sir if you look like a tranny its that simple.

>> No.10401096

>>10399102
It’s ridiculous how people are competitive with how “progressive” they are

>> No.10401099

>>10401068
you dont know my life shithead. and what taliban are coming here for an invasion. jesus.

>> No.10401125

>>10398656
Seems correct, unironically.

>> No.10401345

>>10398641
It is ideological and bad science. It will all come crashing down horribly in about a decade when people realise they fucked themselves up for life and seek to detransition and bring legal cases against institutions and their families

>> No.10401429

>>10398641
>last five years
Imho senpai the long term socio-cultural and biological effects of plastic causing endocrine disruption
It would fit the pattern of:
Certain types of plastic used in pacifiers being banned by the FDA for this reason for feminising the hormones of baby boys
The huge imbalances in transwomen vs transmen
The huge imbalance in malesubs vs femdoms (I swear, femdom would be dating on easy mode - the true Chads.)

>> No.10401446

>>10398641
Also the internet (YouTube in particular) humanising and normalising these people. Giving them a voice.
Also TV putting them on shows because it’s a new horribly fascinating thing (makes them more normal)
Also universities being a total freek zone where powerful people make alliances with total freaks to sure up lackeys who are reliant on institutional power
Also the intersectional coalition looking for newer victim groups to keep pushing the envelope in line with their quasi-religious commitment to social justice which never arrives and attracts niggas looking to flex by getting normalfags to call men women (I’m actually more agnostic on the question of transpeople, but imagine the power of being able to walk around telling people to call men in dresses women. Based.)

>> No.10401522

>>10398826
I think this is a big part of it. Feminism has given women a lot of leeway in bucking traditional gender roles and stereotypes, but there's been no such movement for men. Perhaps for some it's internalized homophobia ("it's not gay because I'm a girl!"), and for others there's just no sufficient outlet for a guy wanting to go along with traditionally more feminine gender stereotypes. The current zeitgeist is really strange in that it's more acceptable for a guy to call himself a woman just because he "feels like one" than it is for a guy to own being a man who just wants to be cute and wear dresses.

>> No.10401544

>>10401072
Suspect it’s this. As n=1, Don’t /hate/ them but I’m probably not going to say “she” or “ma’am”

>> No.10401551

>>10400422
Hm it’s almost like insecure middlemen elites like having people isolated and low key hating each other

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>>10398826
The "egg" stuff is blatant grooming.

>you're a guy who likes girly stuff? you're an egg!
>you're a guy who hates girly stuff? you're just repressing because you're an egg!
>want to transition? def an egg
>don't want to transition? also an egg
>just cut your fucking dick off!

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Pineal calcification is associated with accelerated sexual development in children, and fluoridated city tap water is notoriously contaminated with hormones. I just saw a post on reddit a couple of days ago about some breakthrough in water treatment, for denaturing hormones.

>> No.10401689

>>10401099
It's not an invasion in the traditional sense. They will just outbreed you and in two or three generations there will only be Muslims left.

It's a slow gradual purpose but evolutionary survival ultimately comes down to reproduction. You don't reproduce enough to compete with those who want your resources? Well you lose! You don't get to reproduce anymore, those who did will take those resources instead.

People don't get what religion is. Fuck all the belief shit, it's just a evolutionary strategy for survival. And it's damn effective because it insulates your communities from degeneracy like this trans crap. Eg: Islam. That's why they are so hard on the homos too. It weakens the collective.

I wouldn't count Christianity as a religion anymore. It's so watered down it's meaningless. The whole point is to have retarded arbitrary rules like 'no gays!' so the NPCs don't need to think about why. If you make exceptions your by definition not of that religion.

>> No.10401707

>>10401661
source?

>> No.10401713

>>10401689
wrong, the immigrants children will display the same behaviors. see: >>10400417

>> No.10401716

>>10398641
Bill Gates and the Illuminati want a herd of docile nigger cattle.

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>>10399435
Holy fuck i want to do steroids now

>> No.10401788

>>10401779
Pretty sure that's synthol.

>> No.10402202

>>10399730
Someone hasn’t read the history of the gay movement before 1994.

>> No.10402216

>>10398879
>NPC theory
might be true, but dont see how it applies to the massive influx now, which seems to be mainly older trans whose whole life didnt know what trans was. i wont deny there may be a peer pressure element to it, especially online, but i dont think is explains the massive increase in teh short amount of time

>> No.10402238

>>10398641
It's trendy. I'm pretty sure a lot of trannies out there only do it because it's socially acceptable in whatever hellhole they live in. The fact that a lot of MtF trannies also identify as a lesbian should tell you something.

>> No.10402256

>>10398641
Fuck off back to /pol/ god damn.

>> No.10402454

I'm so glad these threads exist to remind me what a fucking fraud most people on this board are

>> No.10402483

>>10399726
age of consens in my country is 16, so there's nothing wrong

>> No.10402484
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10402484

Loud minority. That's all. It's still an immensely small number of people with dysphoria
>>10398656
Anon, you can't just get dysphoria from watching porn you fucking retard.

>> No.10402500

>>10398641
Changing attitudes toward mental illness. For good or for ill, people no longer look at mental illness as something to cure or treat, and instead it is seen as a personality quirk.

>> No.10402513

>>10400376
Lol blanchard is pseudoscience but "muh girl brain" is solid science? Yeah okay

>> No.10402550

>>10398641
The cult they've set up is pretty good at attracting new members (like all good cults should be) and enjoys government support

>> No.10402580

>>10398641
the percentage of trans gender people has always been the same. What you are witnessing now is the largest number of them that has even been recorded.

>> No.10403358

>>10398641
It's a form of prison gay as well as society rewarding going trans due to attention.

How do I know this? Because I had one (autist) friend that was a virgin at age 25 and fell for the transgender meme. Luckily he didn't take any hormones or shit but he became more social and actually found a girlfriend while being a transgender. Immediately after he had his girlfriend (biological female) he stopped doing all that transgender shit and called himself stupid and delusional.

It is therefor permanently curable if these faggots actually got a girlfriend. Notice how many of these guys also pretend to be "lesbians" and find other biologically female lesbians as partners.

>> No.10403368

>>10403358
The cure for incels is transgenderism

>> No.10403386

I speak from personal experience here. I'm 24, have a girlfriend and I am actually starting to notice some changes in me.

Over the last year or so I've started to notice that I found women less attractive. Like what I would normally rate a 10/10 I would now rate a 6/10 instead. I still think they have some attraction, just less.

Meanwhile at the same time I'm finding certain types of dudes more attractive. Normally I'd rate guys 1/10 to 3/10 in terms of attraction but I've noticed that that has gone up for very specific type of guys to about 5/10.

I'm a VERY honest person and never lie to myself and my feelings so I know I've never been gay in my life especially as I've never had any romantic problem with women in the past. But now I'm experiencing this change in attraction.

I think more people are experiencing this switch in attraction. I have no idea what causes it but It made me realize that attraction to certain genders isn't determined at birth but is very dynamic. Just like taste in women is. What you liked as a young teen is very different from the women you are attracted to right now. That same attraction might shift towards male or female over time as well. I will never actually fuck dudes because I still find women more attractive and it's less of an hassle socially. But I do understand the mindsets.

Transgenderism might just be a strategy to explain away this change in you.

>> No.10403391

>>10403386
>this entire post

>> No.10403403

>>10401551
The problem is that showering wtih someone who might think of you in a sexual way makes you feel uneasy. You can't tell me that if you were to shower with some gay guys that you wouldn't delude yourself into believing that they are checking you out. When everybody is heterosexual, or at least claims to be, that's not an issue. It doesn't even cross you mind. Slapping someone with a towel is not an attempt to flirt or sexually engage. It's merely having some fun among friends or team mates. The situation changes entirely as soon as physical attraction comes into play. You won't see naked 14 year old boys shower with naked 14 year old girls, either.

>> No.10403416

>>>/his/6171317
Gays and traps existed for centuries and nobody batted an eye. You new age normieniggers should go back to /pol/.
>Trannies came out of nowhere wtf

>> No.10404126

>>10398641
I don't know, and I don't care. If you care so much about what less than 10% of the population does, that you are probably a part of that 10%.

>> No.10404146

>>10398697
correlated with stigma perhaps?

>> No.10404151

>>10398656

This is Science board. Show your data or shut the fuck up.

>> No.10404155

>>10398646
This is Science board. Show your data or shut the fuck up.

>> No.10404159

>>10398668
This is Science board. Show your data or shut the fuck up.

>> No.10405156

>>10398641
I can post a 5 maxed posts-long hypothesis about this but today's not really my day, so tl;dr in one post - loneliness and seeking a peer group to belong to, and after failing every attempt in joining such a group for their entire life, from sports to metal to video games to anime and most other similar topics that teenagers align towards, they finally find one that accepts them unconditionally. At that point the desire for acceptance outweighs the fact that they become a tranny as a trade off since a survival switch flips in their minds that tells them that it's either their beta weak selves out alone with the lions, or their cocksucking selves with the safe group. They could always take dick in their ass without publicly announcing it or pretend to be a female when it matters - in secret in the bedroom like it used to be once, but that's literally never the case and it's always as public and obnoxiously displayed as possible, which could only mean that they're not doing it for the sexuality but to openly virtue signal with their fellow group for acceptance. This is also the reason why those people are literally never alone and isolated but always find communities of other trans people either irl through massive virtue signalling on rallies, or on the web in discord groups - the point was to find other people and pretend to be like them to join their group, not to actually be trans.

That's what the massive increase of trans people actually is - a very small percentage of true trans people flooded with omegas seeking peers in the cheapest way possible to prevent being eaten by a lion.

>> No.10405234

>>10398641
Wait I've been using that as an avatar for a few months now because the colors are cool, please don't tell me that's a trans flag

>> No.10405242

>>10405234
Ye, nigga, it is.
Ain't nothing sacred anymore.
Random color combinations are getting hijacked by some degenerates ever since the goddamn rainbow fell to the fags.

>> No.10405259

>>10398717
This.

>> No.10405931

>>10399435
his muscles are full of oil, he hasn't gained any muscle

>> No.10405938

>>10398728
yes

>> No.10405939

>>10398641
> ctrl + f jews
> 0/0

wtf, i know you guys look down on /pol/ but they have some stuff right.

>> No.10405941

>>10404155
Listen to anyone who became trans and then went back to normal.

>> No.10405943

>>10398728
What actually causes someone to be trans?

>> No.10405959

google john money

>> No.10406055

>>10403386
But I thought they were "born that way."
There's a huge problem in trusting people en mass to discern the difference between an opinion they've held since before they can remember, and something they're biologically driven to.

>> No.10406062

>>10402500
>people no longer look at mental illness as something to cure or treat, and instead it is seen as a personality quirk.
Blame modern psychology and the dsm5 for that. They literally hand you a list of personality traits and diagnose you based on your response.

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>>10398641
Sweden is known for it's good statistics and ability to do research on it.
I hope there is someone looking into this, I have so far only heard a theory about it being a new subculture. Like the EMO's cut their arms, zoomers take estrogen pills...

>> No.10406123

Monkey see monkey do

>> No.10406147

Have you considered the possibility that the percentage for transgenders was always there but because of the internet it's more apparent than before? I mean homosexuality and cross dressing were things that existed well before modern movements.

I'd also imagine the global population increase adds more to this.

>> No.10406150

>>10406147
No, that theory falls flat when you look at reality... >>10406116

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>>10398656
this

not to mention though, theres also the benefit of
>people won't look down on you for being emotional
>can get away with more if you're cute just like most girls
>less of a pressure to be independent
>actual emotional support that isn't just get over yourself or drink your problems away
>if you have a bad relationship with female members of your family like mom or sister and they're even slightly liberal they will completely turn around and suddenly give a shit about you and how you feel
>probably more things

>> No.10406166

>>10406147
>I'd also imagine the global population increase adds more to this.
Sounds like the controversial theory about a "behaviour sink" (see "mouse city"). Yes, urbanization and the dying rural areas would be a factor to investigate.

>> No.10406172

>>10406166
>mouse city
*Mouse Utopia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgGLFozNM2o

>> No.10406184

>>10406164
You speak from experience don't you?
However do you have a solution to people who hit the wall so to say?

>> No.10406185

>>10398656
No way. You can't just decide your sexual identiy/orientation. It's "hardwired." If every incel became a trap then all incels would be traps. But the vast majority of incels are not traps. If an incel becomes a trap it's not because they're an incel. They're incels because they're closet traps.

>> No.10406206

>>10398671
They no more "roleplay" as women as females "roleplay" as women. Like political identity. A black female Republican is no less a Republican than a white male.

>> No.10406217

>>10398672
No, straight males don't just jump on the trans bandwagon because it's trendy. That's just not even an option in the mind of a straight male. Most of these fake trans are probably just bi or gay.

>> No.10406223

>>10398697
The suicide rate is high because of the misdiagnosis. For actual trans the suicide rate decreases.

>> No.10406237

>>10406185
>It's "hardwired."
Source? As population density increased in the mouse utopia experiment so did homo-/pansexualism. See >>10406172
.

>> No.10406249

>>10398879
>Sure anon, i guess because i saw my son, playing with his sister's dolls and gi joes i guess that means i need to start him on a lifelong process of HRT depriving him of going through puberty and eventually chop his dick off at a later point in time with the risk of cancer and eventually an above normal rate of suicide, greater than even holocaust survivors.

It's the opposite. Parents see their son exhibits feminine behaviors and forbid it so he's forced to suppress his real nature until he commits suicide.

>> No.10406252

>>10398941
There's no social pressure to become trans though. If anything there's pressure NOT to be trans.

>> No.10406270

>>10406252
If there is a lot of attention towards trans people and recieving attention is beneficial there is an evolutionary advantage of identifying as transsexual.

>> No.10406282

>>10399106
But people don't fill the hole in their soul by becoming trans though. There's just an extremely inefficient way to do that.

There's tons of evidence that what we identify as gender is innate because of the permanence of gendered behavior. People don't switch back and forth. Trans "switch" and stay. Actually, trans don't even switch. They just stop pretending.

>> No.10406288

>>10398641
Probably overdiagnosis.

Remember all the kids that were magically getting ADHD in the '90s so that Big Pharma could shill out tons of Ritalin and Adderall to the kids of concerned parents at a premium for the next 20 years?

Now they're overdiagnosing dysphoria so they can shell out tons of HRT, except its actually even more lucrative this time because they can often milk it for tax dollars thanks to new and "improved" government programs.

I'm not sure people will ever learn that medicine is a business, and business is not necessarily your friend. They're trying to sell a product. No more, no less. It isn't about your health, your improvement or your recovery.

>> No.10406290

>>10399172
The majority of autistic people are not trans and the majority of trans are not autistic.

>> No.10406308

>>10406270
Certain types of attention are beneficial. Becoming trans is an extremely inefficient way to receive positive attention that results in a huge net negative if you're not actually trans.

>> No.10406323

>>10399190
Treating depression in trans people is just treating the symptom.

>> No.10406342

>>10406308
It's not a rational and concious decision.
>>10406323
Give they more role models than the ones they can't identify with. Two out of two trans people I've met was of foreign origin. Origin is another factor to consider while mapping out what this tranny trend is all about...

>> No.10406349

>>10399194
That's like saying pedophiles and heterosexuals share basically the same condition.

>> No.10406373

>>10406342
It's a concious decision. You don't just switch genders like a new fashion style.

>> No.10406379

>>10406342
Role models don't matter. You can't just socially condition your way of of being trans in the same way you can't just "pray the gay away."
The reason the only trans you've met were foreign is because the US is extremely sexually prudish compared to most other countries.

>> No.10406395

>>10398641
Alex Jones was right the powers that be caused it with their mad poisons. Apostle Jones states that the fiends are in league with transdimensional child raping/eating demons.

>> No.10406397

>>10399217
Most trans are not "transtrenders."
Females have the equivalent of autogynephilia but there's no name for it. It's just a normal part of being female. So logically MtF trans should also have it too. The difference is it's called "autogynephilia" when exhibited in MtF trans.

>> No.10406406

>>10399310
Nah, it's simply because western society has become much more accepting of trans in the same way it did with gays years ago.

>> No.10406412

>>10406349
Both of them are exclusively attracted to people they can't reproduce with. I don't see why a distinction needs to be made. It's no more than slightly different forms of the same disorder. Scientifically, neither the homosexual nor the pedophiles chooses their sexual preference. So why exactly should "good" and "tolarent" people only be tolerant of either group? Either be tolerant of both, or neither. Nothing else makes sense.

>> No.10406415

>>10406406
No it's genetic

>> No.10406472

>>10406373
Kids growing up with the notion of "really" being something they clearly are NOT is just the sickest social experiment I have heard about.
The natural thing for kids to do is bullying the abnormal sissy if s/he even shows up at all but that's not allowed because being a brave dick girl is what the grown-ups advocate now...

A few fractions of a percent of the population are not worth the hype this trans and gender thing has stirred!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sPj8HhbwHs

>>10406415
That obviously don't explain the graph shown from Sweden (>>10406116).

>> No.10406480

>>10406472
Those kids were always trans. We just didn't let them say it.
Everything is decided by genes. Just like black IQ. Why do you resist?

>> No.10406490

>>10406480
Your bait is weak and not even entertaining.

>> No.10406497

>>10406490
>It's genetic when it suits my politics but other than that it's environmental

>> No.10406510

>>10399316
You have it backwards. The semantics don't matter. Trans would still feel compelled to feminize their physical form regardless of concepts like gender.

>> No.10406516

>>10406472
There is literally nothing manlier than conquering and claiming the whole other gender!
Fuck girls, WE are women now. HaHaHAhaha!!
>>10406497
Are you retarded? Black IQ is another thread, it's not two comparable topics!

>> No.10406542

>>10406412
It's like the difference between consensual sex and rape. Unlike homosexuality, pedophilia is inherently harmful. If pedophiles are allowed to act on their complusions then they rape kids. If homosexuals are allowed to act on their compulsions then it's just consensual sex between adults. Homosexuality is much more similar to heterosexuality so when you compare homosexuality to pedophilia you might as well be comparing heterosexuality to pedophilia.

>> No.10406549

>>10406542
>If pedophiles are allowed to act on their complusions then they rape kids
Why do you even respond when you're too stupid to understand the difference between being tolerant of a sexual preference and being tolerant of criminals? Rape, molestation or exploitation have nothing to do with pedophilia. They are separate issues.

>> No.10406577

>>10406472
It's sick to obstruct them from expressing their true gender or to force the wrong gender upon them. So if a male child's gender is the girl gender than it would be wrong to force the boy gender on them or to obstruct them from expressing their girl gender.

>> No.10406591

>>10399318
They don't perform sexual reassignement surgery on children. They just delay puberty until they're old enough to decide on their own.

>> No.10406593

>>10398656
shit I just learned about Natalie mars not so long now and you made me see my future.

>> No.10406607

>>10401085
>Now only a minority of the younger generation identifies as heterosexual.

That's a lie and you know it.

t. Zoomer

>> No.10406610

>>10406184
you mean like in transitioning?

idk. i guess just be around girls more and observe their mannerisms so you can train yourself to subconsciously have feminine body language, which you will already have some of anyway. body language is one of the most important things in passing. just live the life and don't be afraid to do all the things you've wanted to do but couldn't before you started. you'll grow into your natural personality over time, and if you aren't a stereotypical girl that's okay. when you do pass though distance yourself from trans culture and lgbt stuff to really program into your mind that you're a girl, otherwise youll keep programming into your mind that you're trans. having girl friends helps a lot bc you can pickup makeup tricks and a bunch of other useful skills, but if you don't have any then you can always ask family probably (hopefully)

>> No.10406655

>>10399332
Sexual identity is solidified well before puberty though. Puberty has no effect on sexual identity. Delaying a gay kids puberty won't cause him to think he's trans anymore than if his puberty wasn't blocked. If a gay kid decides to transition it wouldn't be because of puberty blockers themselves.

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>>10406577
What?! Are you SERIOUSLY a proponent of "gender identity" and it being a reason for HRT and SRS?!

Give the over-looked weak little children present parents and an environment of immidient belonging and these issues disappear.

>>10406591
>They just delay puberty until they're old enough to decide on their own.
>just delay puberty
That's the time they should learn about the variety of male and female roles in the community and family, about their difficult emotions as the gender they have between their legs (producing hormones etc). Delaying that is not a "just".
I'm really not surprised autistic children are over-represented among gender dysphoria as their social awareness is lower and possible their parents' as well. The feelings of insecurity cause an flight to the embracing sexology councelors telling them how natural it is to live and feel like they do...
Trannies are NOT natural! And multi-culturalism is NOT natural either!
Being physically active and helping the adults in their work IS natural!

>> No.10406694

>>10406668
Yes, definitely. The sexual identity of a male child that identifies as a girl is just as strong and valid as the male child that identifies as a boy or the female child that identifies as a girl.
No amount of social conditioning can change their sexual identity.

They can still do those things while on puberty blockers. But no amount of social conditioning will change their sexual identity even if they aren't on puberty blockers. Trans are definitely natural. They've existed throughout known history.

>> No.10406784

>>10400422
It was weird showering around a bunch of naked guys before, just moreso now. Not because of gay or trans people, but because of the generalized increased fragility/sensitivity of modern society.

>> No.10406820

>>10400424
Reminder that you're a brainlet. The only trannies you count are the ones that don't pass. You're also counting tranny-looking women as trannies. The ones that pass you don't count because you don't know.

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>>10400517
boi this is /sci/ get some fucking sources

>> No.10407085

>>10406282
What's the deal with people who claim to be genderfluid, then? Confused individuals, or rare exceptions to the permanency of gender?

>> No.10407087

>>10399119
>>10399127
You're both dumb. It's really obvious that the current social atmosphere would be ripe for both an increased rate of people who are actually trans coming out as such, and an increased rate of people who aren't trans thinking that they are or pretending for other reasons.

>> No.10407093

>>10399171
Hard agree. It's a difficult question, and the current lgbt culture is too enthusiastically accepting these people without encouraging them to explore their identities honestly. This is one of the reasons it's so important, in my opinion, for the lgbt community to ensure that "allies" have a place in the community - otherwise someone who finds out they're not trans, for instance, can end up feeling like they're stuck between being themselves (cis) and losing friends.

>> No.10407095

>>10406290
Sure, man, but you've gotta consider whether a statistically significantly higher proportion of autistic people are trans and whether a statistically significantly higher proportion of trans people are autistic. Go learn about stats on khanacademy or something.

>> No.10407108

>>10399172
Hmm. This doesn't establish a definite causal link between autism and gender dysphoria; it only demonstrates that there's one on some order, somewhere. There are several possible explanations for this reality:
-autistic people spend less time thinking about social ramifications, so are more likely to identify as trans
-autistic people tend to understand gender differently from neurotypical people
-autistic people crave attention due to social isolation, and so use gender dysphoria as an unhealthy coping mechanism (what I think you're shooting for)

And even if these things are the case, you surely must consider that the evidence is at the least not at all compelling that this covers all cases of people experiencing gender dysphoria.

>> No.10407111

>>10399193
am literally a pedo and still kek'd

>> No.10407117

>>10400350
Even though I want to agree with you, I want sources more.

>> No.10407132

>>10406397
were you just not paying attention at the part where every psychology teacher ever mentions that most of Freud's work was bullshit

>> No.10407140

>>10402484
do you think they all have dysphoria? thats a rare illness not the fashion trend it is now.

its mostly mental illness coupled with self hatred and a shitty family wich leads them to belive they are trans. also they get encouraged to it everywhere.

>> No.10407143

>>10398641
It used to be that when a kid put on a dress or played with his mom's makeup the parents would just laugh and tell him to cut that shit out. Now they'd put him on puberty blockers and chop off his cock and balls.

>> No.10407145

>>10399529
first of all, this is some conspiracy theory shit, second of all, we all already resent everybody else from what I've seen

>> No.10407149

>>10403386
no, finding guys good looking doesnt make you gay, its just objectivity. everyone can point out a good looking person.

being gay is sick though, even if you believe in the darvinian theory of evolution, its litterally gene suicide.

>> No.10407161

They're accepted or ignored when some years ago they would've been ostracized or killed. Seems pretty obvious.

>> No.10407162

>>10400306
I mean, if there's one thing that definitely *is* geographically-oriented and virus-like, it's the spread of ideas - for instance, the spread of the idea that it's acceptable to be trans.

You tried. Not very hard, but you tried.

>> No.10407166

Vaccines

>> No.10407185

>>10406820
This guy gets it. Sample bias is a bitch.

>> No.10407225

>>10406288
The fact that it's possible for this facet of the pharmaceutical industry to be exploited doesn't necessitate any particular percentage of overdiagnosis. Ideally, you would use facts to demonstrate that the companies which research and develop medicine are doing this on a massive scale, to the degree that a large proportion of people with common diagnoses don't need the medicine they're taking.

Not only did you not do that, you didn't even try to support your claim which requires evidence.

>> No.10407231

>>10398641
Prove there’s a massive increase in the number of transgender people instead of them simply being more open. That’s not even possible so this is a pointless thread.

>> No.10407240

>>10407231
just the ideas of transgenderism is retarded, you are healthy if you are not trans.

>> No.10407576

>>10407132
Where does Freud claim that all females exhibit the equivalent of autogynephilia?

>> No.10407611

>>10398641
The real question is why do people care so much? I mean, beyond intellectual curiosity...why do people get so angry? Who fucking cares?

>> No.10407752

>>10407611
It's spreading and people want to protect their kids from the evil causing it. It's altruism, a well studied field in evolution. Only over-populated areas would not find a reason to care.

>> No.10407869

>>10407611

The people who care about whether transsexuality can be avoided are people who are concerned about the perceived healthy development of children into adults.

>> No.10407873

>>10407752
Prove there’s an evil causing it, and then prove being trans is bad.

>> No.10407876

>>10407873

That isn't necessary for the answer provided. People care for the apparent reason that they fear it will harm children. You can argue that they're wrong, okay whatever, but that is irrelevant as to why they care.

>> No.10407893

this shit will blow over in a few generations because when it stops to provoke, the majority will lose interest because it was just a tool some peoples pubery to fight against conformity, a puberty phase but over several generations..

>> No.10407901

>>10407893
there will still be all kinds of -sexuals around but they wont be many and they wont try to spread their orientation.

the people who feel the need to spread their sexual orientations to differently oriented people will die out sooner or later because the majority of humanity won't tolerate this (i hope)

be who you are, do what you do but if I don't want to communicate about that with you, you have to respect that.

this applies to all kinds of ideologies as well

>> No.10407903

>>10406820
Showed one of my straight friends pics of Bailey Jay and he couldn't believe she was trans.

>> No.10407904

>>10398880
The populations which are becoming transsexual are not where your global population increase is.

>> No.10407908

>>10407873
>over-population, identity crysis and expensive "treatment" is the natural state for the human race
I get that you really want the Evidence™ but it is possible to deduce truth from the incomplete picture. You are not smart arguing like this and I guess you often feel full of frustration reading on the Internet.

Take care!

>> No.10407970

Reminder trannies and fags always existed and were suppressed. It's genetic.

>> No.10408042

>>10407970
Prove it's not the victim/rebel-role that is genetic and the sexual deviance is just our time's outlet for that. That’s not even possible so gay acceptance is pointless.

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>>10407108

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I like to think that micro plastics and maybe even man made chemicals in the water supply increasingly turn men into whimps that are into transexual stuff while it makes women mature faster.
Just like with the romans who turned insane from the lead in their water supply due to lead piping.

>> No.10409169

>>10398641
It's a fad. Unfortunately, the decisions made while swayed by this fad lock people into certain lifestyles and even medical conditions and dependencies, ruining lives and negatively impacting society as a whole.

>> No.10409192

>>10409133
>he said he wouldn't calm down until Sweden stopped letting in rapists from Eritrea
based autist

>> No.10409544

>>10400459
But being trans is a massive net negative though. You just add all the problems you had before with the litany of problems that come with being trans. And for every person that thinks "victim, brave, strong, heroic, fighting oppression, standing up for your rights" there's another person that wants to see you dead.

>> No.10409548

>>10400461
It's probably an in untero anomaly. The brain probably doesn't change from the default female template to the male one.

>> No.10409583

>>10409133

>Wouldn't clam down until his country stopped being invaded by foreign barbarians

Anon, that is the healthy response.

>> No.10409595

>>10400651
Extremely unlikely. Sexual identity isn't like some trivial thing you can just change at will. It's the permanent core of your identity. So non-trans males are more likely to kill themselves when they fail at life rather than transition.

>> No.10409601

>>10400707
Nah, it's not even close to peaking yet. It's just going to continue until it levels out and becomes as normal as interracial dating.

>> No.10409608

>>10400952
They're not acting based on the language used to describe sexuality though. We would still have trans people regardless of concepts like gender, femininity/masculinity, etc.

>> No.10409622

>>10401072
"The vast majority of people are too polite to say anything, even if they hate trannies."

Maybe most do. But there's still a substantial amount that don't which is why trannies get yelled at and murdered all the time.

>> No.10409637

>>10401345
Probably the opposite will happen. In the future obstructionists will be seen like anti-vaxxers.

>> No.10409661

>Gender is just a social construct.
>People are born naturally transgender.
>Hence, gender is biological and not a social construction.
Would you fucking degenerate decide once and for all?

>> No.10409673

>>10401446
It would be redundant to humanize them since their humanity is already obvious. But to normalize them is just society's way of correcting the mistakes of the past by liberating them from the social tyranny that seeks to oppress them.

>I’m actually more agnostic on the question of transpeople, but imagine the power of being able to walk around telling people to call men in dresses women.

That's just a the evolution of language through the distinction between sex and gender. Similar to how liberal and conservative have different meanings than they did in the past.

>> No.10409688

>>10401522
>The current zeitgeist is really strange in that it's more acceptable for a guy to call himself a woman just because he "feels like one" than it is for a guy to own being a man who just wants to be cute and wear dresses.

But it's not. Males who identify as men are much more socially free to be feminine now than they were in the past.

>> No.10409726

>>10398656
I was on this path and almost started crossdressing but I lucked out and found a gf and now im recovered. This anon speaks wisdom

>> No.10409734

>>10401573
Not by professionals though. Psychiatrists are like the gatekeepers to sexual reassignment surgery. Their patients have to pass all kinds of tests before they become qualified for SRS. They're not like doctors that just prescribe medication like giving out candy.

>> No.10409738

>>10401689
Religion produces too much degeneracy of its own.

>> No.10409800

>>10402238
People don't just decide to cut their dick off cause it's trendy.

>> No.10409807

>>10402500
If only that were true. Then we wouldn't have so many kids medicated for ADD.

>> No.10410021

>>10398879
Yikes. Is this what unfiltered /pol/ stuffing does on your brain?

>> No.10410030

>>10399460
OFF-THE-MEDS cool bro!

>> No.10410220

>>10410030
>If your ideology does not align with mine you need medication.
Cool "bro"

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>>10401716
Based Terry A. Davis poster.

>> No.10410278

>>10409734
Actually tranny activists consider those tests to be transphobic gatekeeping and have been pushing psychiatrists towards an "informed consent" model, which means you can walk in, demand tranny pills, and they'll give them to you along with a pamphlet about side effects that you won't read.

>> No.10410285

>>10409734
> Psychiatrists are like the gatekeepers to sexual reassignment surgery. Their patients have to pass all kinds of tests before they become qualified for SRS.

Or you can just go to Thailand.

>> No.10410395

Autism, OCD, and pop culture pressure.

>> No.10410499

>>10410395
No it's genetics.

>> No.10410943

Most of this is happening in America. I Increase has to do with once again Big Pharma wanting to push out meds, see how the ideology they created of this decade includes the tumblr types that can claim to identify as hundreds of different genders, this is in detriment to the actual small number of people who suffer from gender dysphoria but allows big pharma to reach a wider audience of younger teens who are looking for some special rebellious identity, and more disgustingly to a large number of children who even if they show some signs of dysphoria are statistically very likely to grow out of it by adulthood.

We should also consider the fact that traditional conceptions of gender in America are defined by trivial bullshit and marketing that other cultures are more resistant too. A boy reading poetry in america is tantamount to being feminine, as is say wanting to be a mathematician instead of fulfilling your dads vain selfish dream of you being an athlete. American society is a cancer where you're already defined by society in regards to stupid expectations of gender where in say France you just are who you are.

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Why were there fewer publicly lgbt people back when they were being murdered and persecuted?

I just can't understand!

>> No.10411499

Bumping with some interesting stuff. I'm not into these conspiracies but it's pretty fucked up.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/23/child-transgender-service-governor-quits-chaos

>> No.10411576

>>10407869
>The people who care about whether transsexuality can be avoided are people who are concerned about the perceived healthy development of children into adults.
I guess that makes sense for fearful parents. I assume those people are not on 4chan, but channers live to troll so that also makes sense.

Although it's pretty clear that religion is toxic to children and while I think it's sad so many parents lie to their kids, I'm not all riled up about it and trying to pass legislation. You shrug and move on. Life is too short to give a fuck, particularly given that we all have our own problems.

But your explanation makes sense, thanks.

>> No.10411605

>>10398672
Combined with complicit medical professionals who crave wokeness points.

>> No.10411609

>>10398641
Product of a morally sick society

>> No.10411675

What I don't understand is why the only acceptable cure for gender dismorphia is wholesale support of their transitioning, rather than making them feel comfortable in the body they were born in (ex: giving hormone therapy to help a gender dismorphic man feel more masculine)

>> No.10411682

>>10406185
>It's "hardwired."
Pure pseudoscience, nothing supports this asides from asinine assertions by psychologists.

>> No.10412319

>>10411682
The claim that gender identity is socially conditioned is pure pseudoscience

>> No.10412322

>>10411675
U rite

>> No.10412359

>>10402550
Anti-LGBT cultists are the new racists. It's just mainstream society moving against these regressives types like it did during the civil rights and feminist movements.

>> No.10412361

>>10403358
Autistic retards are the only ones that actually become "transtrenders" and they're a very small minority among trans people.

>> No.10412365

>>10403386
If this is true then you're basically a unicorn. Never heard of this happening before. Maybe you're actually bi and only now realizing it.

>> No.10412368

>>10403403
Showering with a bunch of naked dudes is uncomfortable regardless if they're straight or gay. The difference is negligible.

>> No.10413013

>>10412319
>gender identity
gender defiance

I have full respect for intersexual individuals but the rest of you talking about "trans" as it IS NOT just a fetish and scape goat for people with identity issues need to back up your claims with science and data before continuing to cut young men and womens body parts!