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http://www.understandingslavery.com/index.php-option=com_content&view=article&id=378&Itemid=233.html

they had calculus and general relativity europeans

>> No.10393159

they had calculus and general relativity before Europeans

>> No.10393233

racists avoid this thread like the plague it seems

>> No.10393276

>>10393158
It's really extraordinary that the myth of the Greeks inventing everything they ever wrote about has persisted so long, when it's so obvious that even of their stuff, only a fraction will ever be found.

>> No.10393288

Interesting.

>> No.10393294

>>10393276

General Relativity was impossible without a knowledge of electromagnetism and non-euclidean geometry which didn't come around until the 19th century


this is a completely retarded claim

>> No.10393298

>>10393276
I was always taught that there was prior existence of math located in places like Babylonia and Egypt...but the unique achievement of the Greeks was introducing mathematical proofs and an axiomatic deductive system that prior civilizations, that tended to focus on empirical mathematics, lacked

>> No.10393307

>>10393294
I admit I didn't see the GR claim before I posted, what OP wrote is completely retarded. But the calculus thing is not in a limited form as crazy. It is very plausible that the mathematical idea of area measured by sections predates the Greeks.

>> No.10393334

>>10393307
I don't think anyone well versed in the history of mathematics would make the claim that the Greeks "invented math", but like what >>10393298 said, the Greeks went a step further in establishing axiomatic mathematics. Euclid's Elements is the oldest, well at least oldest known, treatment of such

>> No.10393343

WHY IS EUCLID'S ELEMENTS CONSIDERED A GREEK ACHIEVEMENT?

when it was written in Alexandria, Egypt?

>> No.10393352
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10393352

Let's take a break from OP responding to himself to read the excerpt in question.

><h3>The curriculum
Ahmed Baba studied Arabic grammar and syntax, astronomy, logic, rhetoric and prosody. Textbooks were purchased and copied on a number of subjects, including astronomy, astrology, botany, dogma, geography, Islamic law, literary analysis, mathematics (including calculus and geometry), medicine, mysticism, morphology, music, rhetoric, philosophy, the occult sciences, and geomancy.

No mention of GR, all we have for math is geometry and calculus, no algebra though. As far as calculus is concerned that pretty much leaves doing rough Riemann Sums presumably with square shapes to estimate round shapes. You can't have calculus without limits (calculus itself means small rock, a reference to [math]dx[/math]), and you can't have limits without algebra; plenty of mathematicians have invoked ideas of calculus to varying degrees, but they will not receive credit for the subject.

>> No.10393363

>>10393294
I think you're forgetting that Egyptians were living under or with another species, which was giant and upwards of 3 times taller. They had knowledge of vibrational states of water and resonance phenomena, as evidenced by their hieroglyphics and the design of their healing buildings.

>> No.10393372

>>10393363
Ooh, are we making stuff up? I found evidence in the woods of a sex cult led by your mother. She evidently had a superhuman ability to ingest semen. It's suspected she may be descended from a "living fossil", so she probably passed on some of those genetics to you!

>> No.10393375

>>10393363
Tell me more please. About the giants. Were they red haired?

>> No.10393380

>>10393372
Ignore the jewish sex pervert shill. Talk about the nephilim.

>> No.10393385

>>10393363
Uriel and his crew? Tell me more!!

>> No.10393388

>>10393380
Are you related? It sounds like she passed on some of her genes to you as well!

>> No.10393391

This thread has exhausted its potential the way everyone who scrolled by knew it was going to.

>> No.10393396

>>10393385
Or the others, Samyaza and Azazel. Who was where? It is important!

>> No.10393402

>>10393388
Nice hitler dubs.

>> No.10393407

>>10393391
The meme potential is exponential.

>> No.10393436

>>10393363
Come back please.

>> No.10393446

>>10393158
>Black Africans
>Islamic North Africans

>> No.10393448

>>10393436
I'm looking for the hieroglyphic I mentioned.

I think the red haired, double row of of teeth, six finger / toe, etc, are distinct from this kind of giant.

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>>10393436
Had to recreate it.

The plate frequency on the bottom image is slightly incorrect, but it depicts the general idea.

>> No.10393693

Another note worthy thread turned to shit about Egyptian red haired giants

>> No.10393703

>>10393693
ya n next i'll turn u to shit m8 beter be reddy

>> No.10393705

Fucking X posters.

>> No.10393722

>>10393693
This thread was shit from the OP anon, it was unsalvageable from the start.

>> No.10393769

>>10393158
Damn, that baba guy from the 1600s was fucking dope. Basically muslim Newton.
>Baba wrote over 60 books, almost everyone on a different topic, writing on issues from astronomy, identified stars that European scientists technology could not discover until the late 1800s, calculus before Newton, identified Saturn’s rings, Jupiter’s moons, the orbit of several star systems including the Sirius star system, plotted the orbit of planets accurately to the year 1990, documented an immense force of density not visible to the naked eye (which many scholars essentially interpret as gravity but that term did not exist in his language at that time), documented the structure of the Milky Way galaxy, documented ovens that cooked to over 2000 degrees and made steel. Baba set up a system of calculation for weights for ships that the Songhai had built which were 100 feet long, 13 feet wide and could carry 80 tons. These ships sailed to South America and China and traded in Ivory, gold and silver.

>Baba wrote several medical scripts on how to conduct surgeries, he wrote an entire scripts on different antiseptics and the need to use antiseptics to expel germ forces and disinfectants, brain surgery, tumor removal and tumor identification process, he wrote a script about creating false teeth, dentistry and anesthesia. Baba also wrote a script on water management and waste water treatment and another script on toad anti-venoms.

>> No.10393778

>>10393475
Top tablet is Sumerian.

>> No.10393815

>>10393769
He was good at astronomy but none of that seems to be as groundbreaking as the Principia

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>>10393363
how the fuck do those /x/ faggots keep finding their way here?

>> No.10393837

>>10393769
Wait if that “immense force of density” is true doesn’t that mean baba predates newton in universal gravitation?

>> No.10393861

>>10393158
Yes yes we know blacks invented everything and are far superior to everyone, they just did not want to do anything with it. Just shut up and get out your checkbook.

>> No.10393888

>>10393815
Perhaps, but even Newton didn't have as wide a variety of discoveries.

>> No.10393904

>>10393769
Had trouble finding a "reputable" source besides Quora. Wikipedia did have this though:
In regards to the enslavement of Africans in 1615, Ahmad Bābā discussed the legitimate reasons of how and why one could become a slave. The driving force, mainly being religious and ethnic, were that if one came from a country with a Muslim government, or identified with specific Muslim ethnic groups, then they could not be slaves. He claimed that if a person was an unbeliever or a kafara, then that is the sole factor for their enslavement, along with that being “the will of God.”

>> No.10393992

>>10393158

Is there ANY achievement that black Africans will NOT claim they invented. How unbelievably desperate they are to claim that they ONCE were great, as if that will somehow neutralize the violent unstable shithole they now live in.

>> No.10394013

>>10393837
Can anyone answer this?

>> No.10394075

Anyone?

>> No.10394103

>>10393363
this probably also what OP believes

>> No.10394107

>>10393352
wow, the only proper response to OP and they have nothing to say. what a shock!

>> No.10394109

Didn't the Bantu have iron smelting before almost anyone else?

>> No.10394112

>>10393769
In all honesty he sounds pretty impresive, but the problem is, without calculus he would never have been able to advance his theories further.

>> No.10394124

>>10394112
Doesn’t the immense density part prove that he came up with universal gravitation before Newton?

>> No.10394127

>>10394124
I don't doubt he was on the right track, but if he didn't have the math to properly express it then that wouldn't go beyond conjecture or maybe rules of thumb.

>> No.10394150

WE

>> No.10394152

>>10394150
Clamp umbilical cords.

>> No.10394158

>>10394127
Is it true that calculus predates Newton and Leibniz?

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10394159

You know who I am. You know who we are. Black kings shall rule the earth within ten years. Our IQ is slowly surpassing ALL the competition. We own the criminal enterprises and will slowly start to own the politicians. The year of 2030 will be the year of the black man. Our forces are implementing African gorilla warfare tactics, which have been proven to be effective against even the strongest armies. Our will is as strong as ten thousand African lions. To all black brothers, unite under this battle call. You have been warned, white man. You can't see me, my time is now.

>> No.10394212

>>10393276
>>10393298
Greeks were most likely in contact with other civs, and these civs show pretty much everything the Greeks did or thought about several hundred years before.

>> No.10394215

>>10393769
Muslim astronomy/science was lacking in mathematics, Hindu astronomy/science was lacking in instruments but strong in mathematics. Look at what happened when they mixed.

>> No.10394231

>>10394212
Geeks were first to develop mathematical proofs and axioms. Look up Euclid’s Elements

>> No.10394236

>>10394212
If that’s true why did modern math and science mostly develop in Europe.... Kepler,Galileo,Newton etc

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>>10393363
kek

>> No.10394457

>>10393475
Is no one going to acknowledge this? Why would the so-called cradle of modern civilization, Sumeria, have left behind all these tablets depicting these strange scenes with so many modern parallels? And on the American continent, why would eg the Nazca lines depict a bird with a WAVEFORM being emitted from its beak? What would make them portray sound as a compression wave?

Too many things. If I see one thing in this miserable hell we call a life, it's an end to the manufactured, enforced narrative about the history of this place. When you hit against taboo and see something operating below the surface, you know there's something there.

>> No.10394462

>>10394109
no

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>>10394457
Included for reference, this part seems less popular and took a bit to find.

The fact that we live in a place where when we gained the ability of flight, and could look down at the land from a high altitude, we saw stuff like this. And yet we accept all these ridiculous claims about ourselves, our history, our future...

There's some subtle underlying force that seeks to hide, discredit, muddy, and destroy anything that contradicts the official narrative that there is something else, or that we can be and have been more. I would like to draw in this force, and deal with it. It's time it was destroyed, recursively, until none of it remains. There are very few avenues by which it does this in benevolence.

>> No.10394479

>pol trolling itself on other boards

>> No.10394514

>>10393343
I wonder if it has anything to do with Euclid being Greek ??? Fucking brainlet

>> No.10394590

Jesus is there anything niggers wont try to steal
Arabs are white, so were egiptians and summerians.

>>10394159
>African gorilla tactics
Kek
I know thats bait, but what you gonna do, nigga? Kill is all, fuck up our civilization because its too complicated for you, and live in poverty and shit forever after? You cant even think further than five next minutes.

>> No.10394609

WE WUZ KANGZ

>> No.10394613

>>10394590
>five next minutes
WELCOME BROTHER, TOGETHER WE DESTROY WHITE MAN

>> No.10394632

>>10393446
All the groups mentioned were Islamic west Africans

>> No.10394642

>>10394479
Who's trolling who?

>> No.10394645

>>10394632
In the eyes if many tards bring Islamic completely makes you not black or not count. Some grade A magic fantasy logic but hey its 4chan.

>> No.10394648

>>10394642
Who could possibly be behind this?>>10394472
Who could possibly be behind this?

>> No.10394649

>>10394236
Socioeconomic factors

>> No.10394675

>>10394236
>Europe
>Newton
thinking