Where would you rather be in life?

[Anonymous No.10387441]

>28 year old engineer B.S (first job, just graduated)

>32 year old physics PhD (just graduated)

>35-37 year old practicing physician (medical doctor at 35 or surgeon at 37-39~, just finished residency and fellowship)

[Anonymous No.10387519]

physician

[Anonymous No.10387528]

28 year old engineer sounds like the most fun.

[Anonymous No.10387535]

The doctor obviously. The physics Phd is the worst unless it's from a top university

[Anonymous No.10387545]

>>10387441
The doctor. I should have gone into medicine like the rest of my family, but now I'm a glorified factory laborer.

>>10387528
Trust me, it fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.10387546]

>>10387441

>32 year old physics PhD (just graduated)

Definitely because it's most fun.

[Anonymous No.10387552]

>>10387441
anything but physics unless you're an autist or you like to code

[Anonymous No.10387574]

>>10387441
engineer has lowest respect and some in certain groups

physicist has some respect and a lot in certain groups, can end up in textbooks from doing important things

doctor has most respect overall by random people, can also end up in textbooks but not as wide reaching as something fundamental like physics or math

at 40

engineer will be 12 years into career, senior position with paid masters degree, probably manager or r&d if very lucky, hopefully significant savings of around $200,000, probably uninteresting work and very few people will ever care about what you do

physicist will be 8 years into career, probably junior faculty, past postdoc and has plenty of citations, would have savings but probably closer to $100,000, work is at least somewhat interesting and stimulating, potentially very much and some people will care about what you're doing

physician will be possibly just starting career or a few years in, no savings unless he had a rare scholarship, work is probably not as interesting as it is fulfilling taking care of people and being appreciated, if your patients actually appreciate you, probably generally fulfilling but possibly grinding and maybe even miserable (I think half of doctors say they would choose a different specialty or potentially entire career if they could choose again according to doctor surveys)

[Anonymous No.10387599]

>>10387574
>engineer will be 12 years into career, senior position with paid masters degree, probably manager or r&d if very lucky, hopefully significant savings of around $200,000
Please come back to reality anon.

[Anonymous No.10387616]

>>10387574
I'd say there are two conclusions you can draw from these facts...

once you're 40, you won't care about how long it took and will have wised you chose the road rarely traveled, the harder choice for future reward, but at the same time, you only have one life and you may be wrong in your decision entirely.

do you need to be a doctor, spending all of your 30s to reach that goal? Is it your dream to walk in a room and fix someone by diagnosing their problem or performing surgery? you may end up hating it and see that your patients do not appreciate you, and wish that you went into a PhD or became an engineer and be about 10 years into your career.

the PhD, he will have options but potentially could end up with nothing if he doesn't do anything significant, and spend his career jumping between universities as a adjunct professor, probably wishing he went into industry, or became an engineer or doctor.

the engineer may end up hating the work and not want to continue at all, wishing he continued school and aimed higher, but he's only 28 and has a bachelors in engineering, so he probably could go to graduate school, although it will be much more challenging than if he had a research oriented bachelor's degree

[Anonymous No.10387655]

Engineering jobs suck a lot. It's not worth it at all. PhD or physician no question.
Get a physics bachelors and fulfill medical school requirements. Have undergraduate research, learn to program, and apply to medical schools and PhD programs, and make the decision there. Physics bachelors have top MCAT scores too, so it works out well. Engineering bachelors is a joke, overworked rote memorization garbage. It's such a lame path.

It may end up being an easy decision. You may end up being accepted to a medical school and no PhD program or vice versa, so no need to question it any longer. I think thats the best path.

[Anonymous No.10387675]

>>10387599
a 40 year old engineer with 12 years experience can't be a manager?

[Anonymous No.10387683]

Go for engineer.
It is the least stressful, most rewarding and most fun, least risky and guaranteed good job for life.

[Anonymous No.10387778]

>>10387683
Assuming you were average and didn't do anything exceptional in any of these paths, which would you be the most proud of, lying in bed at night at 80 years old looking back on your life; average engineer, average scientist, or average doctor? You did well enough, but not so well that you'll be remembered outside of maybe the odd obscure textbook. What would you hope you chose?

[Anonymous No.10387784]

>>10387441
I'd pick whoever can build the most muscle

[Anonymous No.10387787]

>>10387778
>>10387683

woops I didn't mean to reply to you but posting for the thread in general

[Anonymous No.10387789]

>>10387683
Ask me how I know you're still in college.

[Anonymous No.10387832]

>>10387778
>doctor spends his life taking care of people, mostly rote work but someone has to do it, and a somewhat noble path if you truly help people who other doctors couldn't

>scientist spends his life trying to do something important and further humanity via research, using his brain, a noble path

>engineer spends his life designing products for a company for a paycheck, probably doesn't think about his work outside of the job

It's definitely not a career engineer. Scientist or Doctor can easily design or invent something without having a bachelors degree in engineering or a job as an engineer.

Between doctor and scientist, it's more challenging to determine.

[Anonymous No.10388131]

Physician is the clear choice.

>28 y/o engineer; short career lifespan due to field advancements rendering your old timer knowledge useless. (Witnessed this with my pops)
>Physics PhD, well you're not unemployed.
>Physician, stacies want you to bust a nut inside them

[Anonymous No.10388151]

>>10387832
Doctors have more trouble in their personal lives due to bad people wanting money from them. Nobody is hunting down a scientist for his money.

[Anonymous No.10388155]

>>10388151
Feels good man

>tfw no money to hunt down

[Anonymous No.10388172]

>tfw everyone keeps telling me how rich I'm going to be because I'm in med school.

>tfw already 27, only in 1st year
>tfw won't earn this supposedly godlike salary until late 30s
>tfw all my friends are getting married and have careers already

You really cant get in it for the money

[Anonymous No.10388175]

>>10387441
someone with a job

[Anonymous No.10388215]

>>10387784
Based and /thread

[Anonymous No.10388216]

>this entire thread
Literally “the grass is greener on the other side”: the thread

Reality is, it depends on your personality and your preference

[Anonymous No.10388220]

>>10388216
Most people would be happy with a fucking job. So probably the engineer or physician. Physician is better because you earn more than the engineer.

[Anonymous No.10388224]

physicists who cant engineer experiments are just paperfags

engineers who are too stupid to understand the physics are just geeks

Embrace both archetypes. Keep learning outside college. Grow your own expertise. Workout the mind and project it into the world with your hands. Set up a lab.

[Anonymous No.10388242]

>>10387441
PhD

[Anonymous No.10388250]

>>10387441
>taking until 28 to get a BS
I would hate myself
>taking until 32 to get a PhD
I would be ashamed
>zoomer medical professional fresh out of residency
The horrible agony especially from residency would be over but school debt+no savings at that age would fill me with grief.
No savings —> no house —> can’t live in a house with a still youthful wife

If I don’t marry by 30 I will probably light a fire and huff CO until death brings release. *signs off blog*

[Anonymous No.10388264]

>>10388220
Depends on what the engineer as well. Upper percentiles of academically performing candidates make it to Med school. If you compare that to upper percentiles of the all Engineers in general, you would find that they both make about the same in the long run. It’s just the barrier of entry to engineering is fucking low compared to the Jewish guild which is medicine. So you would need to make the comparison this way.

ALL IN ALL, JUST START A COMPANY. SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEURSHIP > MEDICINE/ENGINEERING/PHYSICS

[Anonymous No.10388331]

>>10388151
>Doctors have more trouble in their personal lives due to bad people wanting money from them.
Doctors have trouble in their personal lives because the profession is filled with sociopaths. The idea that doctors are these beautiful altruistic geniuses is the product of television shows. Think back to your last doctor's appointment. Did the guy really seem smart? Did he really seem like a hero?

[Anonymous No.10388763]

>>10388264
Just start a company and work 90 hour weeks for several years until it takes off.

[Anonymous No.10388818]

32 yr old. physics phD

[Anonymous No.10388822]

>>10387675
You can with less

[Anonymous No.10388826]

>>10387441

Math (and then Physics) PhD >>>>>> everything.

[Anonymous No.10389242]

engineer would be the worst choice. you're going to trade being a scientist or doctor/surgeon because you wanted to work in the industry earlier? think about how dumb that is. as a scientist or doctor, you'll be making more than enough money to live a comfortable life so to say you'll start earlier and save money earlier, who cares? everyone has a mortgage or rents. if you are a scientist especially, you'll be traveling constantly and would never be home, so who cares about saving money early for a home? Buying a home is becoming more of a bad idea as companies expect people to leave after only a few years and move to another city for a better job.

[Anonymous No.10389266]

>>10388818
this

[Anonymous No.10389297]

>>10388763
Yea take off and earn millions a year. Lmao dude, Doctors make about 4 mil in their lifetime. Successful entrepreneurs make that in a year. It takes off and you never have to work again, just sit back as a chairman.

[Anonymous No.10389329]

>>10387441
The youngest. Then I'd quite that retarded bullshit and do what I want, sucker.

[Anonymous No.10389830]

32 year old physics PhD but I would do something in medical physics. Going until 40 just to say you're a surgeon, I don't know if that's good. Reaching that goal would be very sweet, though.

[Anonymous No.10389968]

>>10387441
>25 years old Biochemistry B.S
>25 years old working in forensic labs

>27 years old applying to MSc Criminology and Investigation in Oxford

[Anonymous No.10390416]

>>10389968
worst option ITT

[Anonymous No.10390447]

>>10387655
What do you think about and MD/PhD with the PhD being in computer science?
Also, is it even possible for such a person (physics pre-med) to be competitive to both top med schools (medical/biological research) and a top non-biophysics PhD program (lots of physics research)
>>10388264
>If you compare that to upper percentiles of the all Engineers in general, you would find that they both make about the same in the long run.
you sure about this? I can see the engineers capping out at ~300k as a VP of engineerin, which is what a GP starts at, and any non-brainlet med student who goes into a specialty such as cardiology or orthopedics will make double that, and even more in rural areas with lower costs of living. (i.e south dakota)

[Anonymous No.10390458]

>>10390447
medical schools like different candidates. they don't want pre-med majors or biology majors.

MD/PhD is pointless if they are unrelated. Real MD-PhD programs are extremely competitive and would be related to medicine, not computer science.

[Anonymous No.10390505]

>>10390458
>medical schools like different candidates. they don't want pre-med majors or biology majors.
I agree, but even non-bio pre-med majors need to show demonstrated interested in medicine: i.e. premed courses, shadowing, volunteering, and research in the field of medicine.
Physics grad schools also want to see demonstrated interest in further physics research, mainly through undergraduate physics research. Therefore, to be competitive for both an applicant would need both medical/biological research as well as physics research.
>not computer science.
https://www.google.com/search?q=computer+science+md+phd
open links, ctrl+f "computer science"

[Anonymous No.10392030]

physics PhD or doctor, no hesitation. Engineering degrees are WORTHLESS. You don't learn anything that a physics degree wouldn't easily learn over a weekend.

[Anonymous No.10392286]

>>10392030
>Engineering degrees are WORTHLESS.
Engineering licensure is too heavily regulated to say this. Someone who wants to work in any serious engineering project/research will have to get an accredited degree.

[Anonymous No.10392297]

>>10392286
Engineering jobs are awful, so it's effectively worthless.

[Anonymous No.10392481]

>>10388331
the surgeon who operated on my mothers cancer seemed to be those two things

the surgeons who operated on me just seemed to be really busy but competent professionals

the last doctor I visited was ok and understanding and went a little extra to make sure I was ok

of course there was the doctor who misdiagnosed a broken jaw

[Anonymous No.10392489]

>>10392481
and then the dentist who took a look at some xrays, lol'd at the other doctors incompetence or fatigue?? and told me to go straight back to ER

and an anesthetist who didn't fill out some important paperwork but had the error pointed out to them by a nurse

and a really strained looking resident who seemed to be coping by smiling and talking funny

I've come across a few more doctors and other people in medicine but I've never seen actual sociopaths. If there are some, they're good at pretending to be normal.

[Anonymous No.10392808]

>>10392481
>>10392489
he's just trying to sound cool talking about sociopaths

[Anonymous No.10393686]

Doctor will always be #1 profession, especially if you're good.

[Anonymous No.10393717]

>>10392808
most sociopaths don't like dealing with people, and the ones who do would go into dermatology for the money/work-life balance.

[Anonymous No.10393783]

>PhD in Chemistry

[Anonymous No.10393986]

>>10387441
Third option but add in doing a part time PhD in mathematical neuroscience during residency that way you can be a physician (neurologist) and a math PhD

[Anonymous No.10394010]

>31 starting PhD
lmfao

[Anonymous No.10394029]

>>10393783
>BS in Chemistry
>work with a PhD in Chemistry
>we have the same job title and pay
:^)

[Anonymous No.10394379]

>>10393783
>the lack of sexiness of physics and math and fewer options

[Anonymous No.10394387]

>>10387441

The answer is 21 year old Chad getting all the pussy your other 3 options missed out on

[Anonymous No.10394591]

>>10388172
>tfw already 27, only in 1st year
If it's any consolation, I'm already 29 and only in my 1st year. Life sucks, anon.

[Anonymous No.10394683]

>>10387441
I graduated with a PhD at 26, some people here finish even earlier at 25. I literally don't understand why anyone would do a PhD in America if it means that you'll literally be 30+ when you fucking START living a semblance of normal adult life

[Anonymous No.10394698]

>>10392286
In third world countries, maybe.

[Anonymous No.10394800]

>>10387441
Physician

Have fun in med school~

[Anonymous No.10394810]

>>10394683
I know you're just meming but what you just described is exemplary and ideal, not normal. Believe it or not, not everyone is fortunate enough to get a good education and upbringing in addition to possessing good genetics. Most people have more problems than you.

[Anonymous No.10394820]

>>10387441
BS in Physics and Economics
Earning multi million dollars a year
Only 47 years old and founded 5 companies

How do you feel knowing some kid from South Africa earned more than multiple lifetimes of you?

[Anonymous No.10394822]

>>10394810
if he's from the UK he's not memeing, it's 3 years bachelors + 1 year masters (optional, but often required for top programs) + 3-4 years PhD which puts you at 25-26 by the time you finish. it takes at least a year longer in continental Europe (usually 5 years for bachelors+masters, then PhD)

[Anonymous No.10395927]

>>10394591

I'm ultimately happy with my choice, it just sucks when I inevitably compare myself to my friends.

Best of luck to you, anon. I hope things work out

[Anonymous No.10395964]

>>10394822
1 year masters?
How come UK masters are that short?

[Anonymous No.10395966]

>>10394820
Who?

[Anonymous No.10396001]

>>10394820
Only a bachelor though so brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10396170]

Is getting a MA in math at 26 «too late»?

[Anonymous No.10396175]

>>10387441
Engineer.

[Anonymous No.10396187]

>>10394820
Fine since I'm not an insecure bucko.

[Anonymous No.10396206]

>>10394029
>PhD in Chemistry
>work with a high school dropout
>we have the same job title and pay
:^)

[Anonymous No.10396876]

>>10396206
Was Walter a PhD? It was never fully explained why he turned out a loser.

[Anonymous No.10396914]

>>10396876
iirc he got (legitimately) cucked by his business/research partner. There was 3 of them but Walter bitched out after the woman broke up with him to get with the other man.
They became millionaires (billionaires maybe?) and Walter was stuck teaching at a high school.

[Anonymous No.10396931]

>>10396914
But didn't he work at other labs after that business?
Somehow he managed to not amount to anything

[Anonymous No.10396934]

>>10396931
He has a disabled kid, pretty sure he sacrificed his career to have a job which allowed him more home time.

[Anonymous No.10396950]

>>10387441
Physics PhD. Thats my dream but im a brainlet who spent 6 years getting a physics BS with a 2.1 GPA. I cant even be a high school teacher cause my GPA's so low.

[Anonymous No.10396962]

>>10396934
>>10396931
>>10396876
>>10396914
>Walter studied at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) with Elliott Schwartz, where he proved himself a brilliant chemist with a specialty in X-ray crystallography ("Gray Matter"). In 1985, Walt's groundbreaking research regarding photon radiography contributed to a project that was awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry, awarded jointly to Herbert A. Hauptman and Jerome Karle for outstanding achievements in the development of direct methods for the determination of crystal structures ("Pilot").
>Following his education, Walter went on to co-found Gray Matter Technologies with his friend, Elliott Schwartz. At this time, he was dating his female lab assistant, Gretchen ("...and the Bag's in the River"). For "personal reasons" never specifically explained, Walter suddenly left Gretchen during a vacation with her family, leaving her and his research behind ("Peekaboo"). Walt sold his share of the company to Elliott for $5,000 ("Buyout"). Gretchen eventually went on to marry Elliot instead, and Gray Matter became a highly successful multi-billion dollar company, largely as a result of Walter's research.
>By the turn of 1990, Walt was working in Application Labs ("Cancer Man"). He also worked in a chemical lab near Los Alamos, where he met his wife Skyler Lambert, who worked as a hostess in a neigboring restaurant ("Cancer Man"). He moved to Albuquerque to work for Sandia Laboratories just prior to his firstborn's birth ("Full Measure"). In Albuquerque, he and his wife settled into a home at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, despite his desire for a larger house in light of recent business success.
>Walt eventually went on to become a chemistry teacher at J. P. Wynne High School where his son, Walter White Jr., also attended as a student.

[Anonymous No.10397582]

>>10387832
>taking care of niggers

>exploring new methods to create new ways of extending life for niggers

>creating new consumer technology for niggers to watch kim k.

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.10397591]

>>10387683
>Go for engineer.
>It is the least stressful, most rewarding and most fun, least risky and guaranteed good job for life.

[Anonymous No.10397598]

>>10396206
Wrong, Walt was the Head of the Manufacturing Division and CEO while Jesse was head of sales

[Anonymous No.10397681]

>>10397582
By that logic i am...

>taking care of whites
>exploring new methods to create new ways of extending life for whites
>creating new consumer technology for whites