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1)Gene editing
2) automation
3)artificial intelligence
4) nanomachines.
5) robotic augmentation for humans


What do you think the future of each of these techs will be? Which of them will change the future and which of them is purely a meme?

Also if I forgot any tech feel free to tell me.

>> No.10356097

>>10356094
Literally all of them are memes and will never happen

>> No.10356099

>>10356097
Why's that?


China already edited babies

>> No.10356160

>>10356099

1 . editing an embryo is fairly easy because it consists of like 2-4-6-8 cells
editing a live human is impossible


2. easy
3. easy
4. easy
5. impossible

>> No.10356164

>>10356094
>robotic augmentation for humans
Literally fucking what are pro ethic limbs

>> No.10356179

>>10356094
Nothing is ever going to change from how it is right now. It's just too expensive and complicated.

>> No.10356212

>>10356097
using technology to talk to people on the other side of the globe was a meme 120 years ago too.

>> No.10356238

>>10356212
Which was also thought to allow you to talk to the dead 120 years ago.

>> No.10356263
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10356263

>>10356094
1. Furries become real
2. Automated Dildo Robots
3. Dildo Robot Riots
4. Super-Fast healing like in videogames
5. Inspector Gadget becomes reality

>> No.10356632

>>10356263
Fucking degenerate

>> No.10356643

>>10356160
>impossible
I bet if you lived in the 1940's you'd say the moon landing was impossible as well

>> No.10356920

Robotic augmentation already exists, people have connected systems to their body to improve the way they experience the world. But then again, what exactly did you mean by robotic?

>> No.10356958

>>10356094
1) Not sure. Sounds good for preventing diseases and shit. But it could have unpredictable consequences.
2) It will create exponentially more jobs.
3) No such thing.
4) No idea.
5) Paradox. Replacing parts of you with a machine does not augment, but diminish you.

>> No.10357133

>>10356160
>thinks human augmentation (which is already in its early stages) is less likely than nanobots
Kek

>> No.10357407

>>10356094
>What's the future of each of these techs
>1)Gene editing

The Eugenics Wars of 2115

>2) automation

The Labor Wars of 2075 and 2082

>3)artificial intelligence

Day of the Off Switch

>4) nanomachines

The European Grey Quagmire starts in 2204
All resources and life on Earth is absorbed into the Quagmire by 2372.

>5) robotic augmentation for humans

The Collective sets out for Alpha Centauri, 61 Cygni, Epsilon Eridani, and Epsilon Indi in 2109.

>> No.10357425

>>10357133
Hurr because people are going to cut off an arm and a leg to look less human.

>> No.10357461

>>10356160
lol what do u mean editing a live human is impossible, never heard of gene therapy my dude

>> No.10357502

>>10356094
1 - cure a few disorders and cause a whole bunch more
2 - probably replace most unskilled labor unless governments make laws against it
3 - same as 2 but replaces most skilled labor as well, particularly military and school
4 - same as 1
5 - if you mean like prosthetic limbs or organ replacements then I think that will be really good except when they break. if you mean like replacing working body parts with improved robot parts I'm 99% sure that will cause horrible side effects to everyone who does it, especially anything involving the brain

>> No.10357783

>>10356179

Its kind of hard when you entire stream of information has to be converted into base 2 format to be computed. We were the computers all along.

>> No.10357785

>>10356094
>>gene editing
anything more than copy and paste of a few genes is far off. Choosing traits that aren't definitively linked to a single gene is far off. And only for embryos, it's not impossible, it's just incredibly hard.
>>automation
It's happening. Even if AI doesn't advance much we can still get pretty far.
>>artificial intelligence
complete wildcard. Advancements could slow down if Moore's law ends or increasingly specialized hardware becomes necessary. Software tends to go develop pretty fast.
>>nanomachines
far off. There is the question of whether proposed techniques of atomically precise manufacturing are even possible at all. If it is not then we need a new technique to do so, if we don't developing it will still be hard. Chemist are making interesting molecular machines and synthesis is becoming automated enabling more complex molecules to be made.
>>robotic augmentation for humans
far. Anything involving biology is extremely difficult. Not to mention the approval process for new medical technology is very slow. For augmentation purposes the process of augmenting needs to be demonstrated to be very safe and low risk. Why perform and irreversible surgery on healthy people if it's risky? Without a stable neural interface it's not happening at all. It's going to take quite a bit of materials science, biology, medicine, and general engineering to do this.

>> No.10358109

>>10356094

1. Peak: age pausing/self editing. No on Baby editing, it will be seen as an asshole'ish stunt, people will decide on their own how to edit themselves.

2. EVERYTHING, there will be no work by the mid 2030s

3. 100 IQ in 2029; 1,000 IQ in 2040, 10,000 IQ in 2050

4. All diseases permanently cured, and all materials recycled, and used to generate new products

5. wont happen, most people will see it as retarded. Maybe natural enhancements, no one will chop off limbs for robotic parts

>> No.10358919

>>10356094
1)Gene editing
Not a meme
2) automation
Not a meme
3)artificial intelligence
SLightly meme, but still very important
4) nanomachines.
mostly a meme, aka not a meme
5) robotic augmentation for humans
not a meme

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10358938

>>10356094
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/transhumanist-techs/

>> No.10359368

>>10358919
And what will be the future of each of these techs

>> No.10360311

>>10358938
Nice site, ty

>> No.10360611

>>10357461
I know what you mean, but gene therapy is extremely ineffective at curing genetic diseases. Both stem cells and gene therapy have been very underwhelming.

>> No.10360623

>anything more than copy and paste of a few genes is far off
Look up synthetic biology you absolute moron. We can pick and choose genes so easily now it's crazy. We've made minimal organisms that are optimised to produce whatever compound we want.

>> No.10360857

>>10360611
what? Theres been successful trials at elimintaing SCID, beta thalessemia, ADA and others using gene therapy

Just infect people with viral vectors with target genes.

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>>10360857
Wow, what could go wrong.

>> No.10362188

>>10360946
So it's better to just be afraid and not use it right? Smh

>> No.10363191

>>10358109
I hope you're right...

>> No.10363232

RNA editing is most likely for use in live humans, ml is just glorified optimization and inefficient based on the amount of data and energy that fuels it, robot limbs already exist. Nanomachines are effectively under synthetic biology.

>> No.10363250

>>10356094
1) no more genetical disease
2) more jobs, cheaper goods, more shit to fix at my job as if it's not enough already
3) better targeted ada
4) IoT shit, just a level over smart watches
5) AR glasses and maybe some EEG piece that will let you think the commands for your AR glasses

>> No.10363256

>>10360946
That's what people said when vaccines were being introduced
>I should inject myself with the thing that CAUSES the disease? Wow, what could go wrong.
Years later, young children are dying of autism. Many such cases.

>> No.10363315

>The future of each of these techs

I'm not qualified in any of these fields but let me throw in a wager:

>Gene editing:
This will be the next generation version of Stem Cell research. The moral West will lag behind the amoral East but the actual gains from gene editing will be minimal and there is little chance it turns your babies into 6'5" ubermensh. At best its applications will be in alleviating birth defects and easily traceable genetic diseases, at worst its nothing.

>Automation:
In nations with healthy liberal democracies the prospect of uninhibited automation will be met with stiff resistance and as a result it will only track and grow within fields where there is a dearth of workers as a result of population decline. That is why transportation services are being automated at scale first (though technically I suppose it'd have been bank tellers and cashiers), with other professions following. In non liberal democracies automation may combine with the youth population spike of Africa and South East Asia to exacerbate employment issues created as a result of many of those nations being forced to skip the process of industrialization and committing their population bump to factory jobs. This could be deeply problematic. The cyberpunk dystopia won't be in Los Angeles or Tokyo, but rather in Addis Ababa or Lagos.

>Artificial Intelligence:
It'll cause the South Koreans to miss their Star Craft supremacy, and it'll contribute to the functions of international trade and data management and analysis. But fearing that our machines will come for our lives is simply absurd. We will have benign AI to assist in the human environment, but we will never lend a human form to a genuinely intelligent creation.

>Nanomachines:
Pure science fiction. I've yet to see convincing research that these will ever be able to be manufactured.

continued:

>> No.10363331

>>10363315

>Robotic augmentation for humans:
For the next two decades it'll be relegated to those suffering from malformations or accidents, but it will continue to advance as we have a vested goal in trying to create devices that allow them to live as normal of a life as possible. This will drive research. I wager that by the time 2040 rolls around we may see the first para-olympian to out compete their all natural counterpart and this will be the tilting point where people begin to consider augmentation for reasons other than having been maimed or born disfigured. Afterwards it'll be based on personal preference, but likely it will operate where internal organs will be regrown in pigs or whatever while extremities, eyes, and sense organs, will all have common prosthetic options. Some will do it for aesthetics for for fads or for aspirations, but we will never have full prosthetic bodies and so it'll remain relatively niche. However, I do believe that a neural interface with the internet is likely as humans have a base instinct to pursue more efficient communications with each other.

>> No.10363349

>>10363315
you shouldnt have an opinion if you’re going to make things up

>> No.10363373

>>10360946
You idiot, its literally works and is somewhat reliable.

Worst side effect is leukemia or death

>> No.10363391

>>10356094
Can gene editing improve intelligence in adults?

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10364080

>>10362188
>>10363256
>>10363373
OP here to let you fellow anons know that this was bait

>> No.10364115

>>10364080
>tfw knew but just wanted to be mean to neurofags

>> No.10364720

>>10364080
Don't see how it's bait... It's not exactly on the level of IQ threads and race threads that are based on inconclusive psych studies

>> No.10364813

>>10356097
1) Gene editing is literally done every day in labs across the globe.
2) Automation can be seen in pretty much every industry from manufacturing to accounting.
3) Have you been living under a rock? Sure, general intelligence is pretty much a meme right now but artificial intelligence is very real.
4) Enzymes are nanomachines. We have constructed novel enzymes that catalyze reactions not found in nature. More advancement to come thanks to all the fields of research above.
5) There's already working prototypes in action (MPL from JHU). Again, sure it's not the kind of thing you see in movies. But it is possible and will absolutely continue to improve.

>> No.10364820

>>10357407
Think sooner..

>> No.10365247

>>10363391
Asking the right questions

>> No.10366333

>>10364080
Shutcho lying ass up

>> No.10368214

Bump

>> No.10368436

>>10356094
Very skeptical about number 3 and number 5. the rest are feasible and we're on our way to making them a reality

>> No.10370177

>>10356160
Crispr

>> No.10370764

>>10360611
You sound highly uneducated

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10370844

>>10356160
>5) robotic augmentation for humans
>impossible

ahhhh anon...

>> No.10370864

>>10356263
re:nanobots, in the manga battle angel atila
the professors put nanobots into his body.
In one episode he could blown up in mush and his nanobots tool time recompiling him back together.

>> No.10370870

>>10357407
>>4) nanomachines
>The European Grey Quagmire starts in 2204
>All resources and life on Earth is absorbed into the Quagmire by 2372.

so basically the plot of blame manga

>> No.10371218

>>10356160
We've done 1 in live adult humans for years reversibly with cystic fibrosis. Number of cells is irrelevant.

>> No.10371314

>>10356094
>1)Gene editing
>2) automation
>3)artificial intelligence
>4) nanomachines.
>5) robotic augmentation for humans
all of them will happen within the century except for artificial intelligence

>> No.10371569

>>10371314
Why do you think a. I won't be a thing?

>> No.10372883

>>10371218
Lemme be 6'4, huge dick and a tiny waist please


Also jeff seid face

>> No.10374487

>>10356094
I have to listen to Tylor Swift Blank Space now

>> No.10374938

>>10374487
WAT?

>> No.10376800

1. Maybe in like a century we'd see it being used more in the states to fight diseases and shit. Very little in the way of "enhancements" though, not for a long long time

2. Not as big as an issue as people like to make it. Won't be a major issue for centuries, If not ever. I'd like to think if it ever really started being an issue. Most governments would be able to step in and kinda mitigate it.

3. The same as automation, mostly. I like to think you could make a synthetic intelligence. But if such a thing was possible. We are very far away from it. And if we did, I wouldn't be to worried about it.

4. No idea. I'd assume while the technology isn't near the end of what we can actually do. I also assume we can't really do much with it. Hopefully wrong.

5. I'm assuming your talking about implants and prosthesis. I don't really think mechanical augmentation would ever take off. Due to people not liking even necessary surgery, let alone unnecessary surgery. The same could be said about genetic or biological augmentation. Even if given the option. I most likely wouldn't genetically enhance my child. Not due to a morale reason or anything. I just wouldn't want/be able to spend extra money I didn't need to. Though admittedly it would have to be more than small improvements to make me not at least consider it.

I'd say the only "meme" one is robotic augmentation. Due to being something even when doable. Most likely wouldn't be all that common.

>> No.10378382

>>10374938
>WAT?

watch blank space

>> No.10378884

>>10378382
Will do

>> No.10380499

>>10376800
Let's hope it will come sooner