/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10315946]

>Consciousness is a quantum phenomenon
If you don't agree, then you probably believe in some kind of magic.

[Anonymous No.10315960]

>>10315946

[Anonymous No.10315965]

Its a microgravitational effect you brainlet
The consciousness field is equivalent to waves in the gravitational field

[neutermind No.10315971]

>>10315946
You

If we properly.analyse mind, sense, in a purer form than the five primary senses, is the mind's effect, and not consciousness as some might falsely say
or think; and it is not seated in the heart, as.others may say or think.

Consciousness is the localization of non-local life support. Like a transmission of the universe that's captured by the mind using heart synergy.

[Anonymous No.10316037]

>>10315965
gravity is a quantum effect :^D

[Anonymous No.10316039]

>>10315946
>>10315193

[Anonymous No.10316046]

>>10315946
we will arrive at a definition which starts as follows: 'A Turing-machine is conscious if ...". No quantum theory required; anyway, in this case it is just invoked instead of "... then a miracle happens".
Also, Penrose makes no fucking sense.

[Anonymous No.10316051]

>>10315946
Layering what is effectively magic into more magic and then calling it good seems like a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.10316066]

>>10316051
quantum mechanics is the only reductionist path to describing consciousness. you are the one who wants there to be magic, but you will hide it behind terminology like "information processing" or some other hand wave.

[Anonymous No.10316160]

>>10316066
> you are the one who wants there to be magic
There is no reasonable way you can infer what my stance on consciousness is from my post.
All you can infer is that I think its a bad idea to ascribe the workings of a phenomenon we dont understand at all to one that is poorly understood.

[Anonymous No.10316168]

>>10315946
Quantity of what?

[Anonymous No.10316174]

>>10315946
I mean it's a lot of electrons in your brain. Obviously it's quantum in some sense.

[Anonymous No.10316287]

>>10315946
Consider the following: Magic is a quantumn phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.10316291]

>>10316287
Quantum mechanics does seem like literal magic. Makes sense.

[Anonymous No.10317132]

>>10315946
Holy fuck that Pic is exactly what shrooms feel like

[Anonymous No.10317154]

>>10316160
He can infer his presumption and assert your a priori.

[Anonymous No.10317158]

>>10316287
>>10316291
This reminds me of my idea for a fantasy / sci-fi story where magic is just people being able to manipulate the physical world with their minds. The only magical part is being able to actually do that, the rest has to follow established science.

[Anonymous No.10317168]

>>10316174
>I mean it's a lot of electrons in your brain. Obviously it's quantum in some sense.

[Anonymous No.10317172]

Consciousness is an illusion everything is predetermined by your environment and the strength of the connections in your brain

[Anonymous No.10317176]

No. Thoughts are interactions BETWEEN neurons, which are far too big for quantum effects to be relevant in their group behavior.

[Anonymous No.10317178]

>>10316174
...No, it’s neurons. Neurons are titanic in comparison to the quantum scale.

[Anonymous No.10318609]

>>10317176
>>10317178
Yeah but look at what happens BETWEEN neurons. I liked your caps because relevant. I mean, the physical space between neurons. It's not those big ole bits of green string (nerves are always green) that are the interesting bits, it's the fluid space between them packed with juicy ions. Ions which, if you are aware of the 'quantum photosynthesis' experiments, could very well be affected by quantum level events.

>Consciousness is the result of a quantum field affecting ion activity at synapses.
Remember where you heard it first.

[Anonymous No.10318619]

>>10315946
Where do you get this bullshit, OP?

[Anonymous No.10318639]

>>10318619
lots of hard drugs

[Anonymous No.10318642]

>>10318639
works for me.

[Anonymous No.10318650]

>>10318639
I used to take drugs. I still do, but I used to, too.

[Anonymous No.10319003]

Hmm yes.... I'm going to bump this thread...

[Anonymous No.10319005]

>quantum phenomenon
bs buzz word pls stop using it. but yes i agree.

[Anonymous No.10319020]

>>10315946
Ok, and? What's your point? What difference does that make?

[Anonymous No.10319027]

>>10318650
underrated post

>either that or i've never heard this joke before

[Anonymous No.10319039]

>>10319027
Can't take the credit. Mitch Hedberg. Sadly no longer with us. Brilliant, but patchy. Worth checking out on youtube.

[Anonymous No.10319323]

>>10319003
My theory is that consciousness is a wave of energy that your brain receives. Meaning consciousness is one, but we experience it differently because this wave of energy can travel while having multiple wavelengths at once and each conscious being has a unique wavelength to tune into, causing the brain to block out other conscious beings' thoughts.

[Anonymous No.10319327]

>>10315946
>My theory is that consciousness is a wave of energy that your brain receives. Meaning consciousness is one, but we experience it differently because this wave of energy can travel while having multiple wavelengths at once and each conscious being has a unique wavelength to tune into, causing the brain to block out other conscious beings' thoughts.

[Anonymous No.10319334]

>>10319323
>because this wave of energy can travel while having multiple wavelengths at once and each conscious being has a unique wavelength to tune into
gotta quit the weed dude

[Anonymous No.10319379]

>>10319334
>gotta quit the weed dude
What's wrong with my statement? The electromagnetic spectrum represents the a continuous stream of photons that has a shape that consists of multiple wavelengths. Think about how visible light works. When you blend blue and red together you get purple. Purple has properties of blue and red, mean it is a mix of those wavelengths in a single wave. Don't tell me that this couldn't be the case with a wave of consciousness.

[Anonymous No.10319421]

>>10319379
>a continuous stream of photons
there is no such thing as a continuum in QFT

[Anonymous No.10319499]

>consciousness is some kind of holographic shit in a higher dimension
Sounds magic to me

[Anonymous No.10319509]

>>10319499
If you don't think our entire world is pure fucking magic, you have't looked at it closely enough.

[Anonymous No.10319512]

>>10319509
You misunderstand, I agree.

[Anonymous No.10319540]

>>10315946
How would you know if its quantum or just really really large? Something so large in scope it's out of the current understanding on physics/mathematics. Normally we think the small builds up the big, but maybe the big builds the small within the space we live.

[Anonymous No.10319636]

>>10315946
>Consciousness is...
Imma have to stop you right there buddy.

[Anonymous No.10319777]

define the phenomenon of consciousness without saying to "Sense but better"

[Anonymous No.10319889]

>>10319777
Consciousness is a property of a being which means the being is awake and aware.

[Anonymous No.10320030]

>>10319636
>>10319777
>>10319889
Well those posts really added to the thread. Congrats for enhancing the state of human knowledge around consciousness, guys.

[Anonymous No.10320044]

Where the fuck is it located

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[Anonymous No.10320972]

>>10320044
Consciousness is stored in the balls

[Anonymous No.10320994]

>>10320044
claustrum

[Anonymous No.10321493]

[Anonymous No.10321936]

[Anonymous No.10323648]

Test

[Anonymous No.10323830]

>>10315946
>implying believing in quantum phenomenon as consciousness isn't just yet another belief in some kind of magic.

[Anonymous No.10323876]

> he thinks we are conscious

kek