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Is toxic masculinity real? And what causes toxic masculinity in males?

>> No.10307934

>>10307930
Testosterone.

>> No.10307942

Men today are more feminine than at any point in history and dropping male sperm counts are a worldwide phenomenon due to xenoestrogens from our plastics. It's (literally) toxic estrogens that we should be worried about. These endocrine disruptors are so widespread that it makes unaffected individuals seem overly masculine.

>> No.10307970

>>10307930
can guys be assholes? Yeah.
can some guys encourage them to be assholes? Yeah.
is there a giant conspiracy of men being assholes? No.
Women can also be assholes, and some women encourage other women to be assholes. Also men can encourage women to be assholes, and women can encourage men to be assholes.

>> No.10308052

You guys realise its men who push this nonsense right?

All these exec arent women, and remember many millions of men accept this bs.

>> No.10308060

>>10307930
This add was beyond fucked up to the point it was evil.
Resentment truly is the motivation behind any and all leftist thought/action.

Its nice they're getting heat for it.

>> No.10308062

>>10307930
>Is toxic masculinity real
It's certainly not Science & Math.

>> No.10308077

>>10307930
Something like 17 black men showing positive behavior, and 3 white men.

The numbers do not lie. This ad is pure anti-white racism.

>> No.10308087

>>10307930

Women love men who display "toxic masculinity"

>> No.10308091

>>10308087
Rape fetish is astonishingly common

>> No.10308095

Technically it refers to people who try too hard, such as white knighting or other role jockeying shit.

>> No.10308097

>>10308052
Retarded french CEOs and liberal memes. CEOs didn't used to be like this. Look at the old tmobile ceo videos, or jeff Bezos.

You fucking faggot.

>> No.10308107

>>10308060
>Its nice they're getting heat for it.
Enjoy your tiny bubble.

>> No.10308115

>>10308091
Females just love when you take them and fuck them. Have you seen dogs fucking? I did. Many times. It's similiar to humans. you just walk to girl and fuck her. She will give a fuck because its not common in our society but her instincs will scream and lubricate her vaginer while making her orgasm. Such is life. Such was life. Such life will continue.

>> No.10308143

>>10307970
>is there a giant conspiracy of men being assholes? No.

No one said there was.

>> No.10308147

>>10308060
Yeah, “please do the right thing” is pure evil. Lmao

>>10308115
r/braincels tier

>> No.10308153

Now WHO will say that high testosterone guys are ill and the cure will be estrogen.
I fucking hate this fucking progressive world so much.

>> No.10308154

>>10308153
>Now WHO will say that high testosterone guys are ill and the cure will be estrogen.

>This event in the future I just imagined to confirm my own conspiratorial bias will totally happen

>I fucking hate this fucking progressive world so much.

Kill yourself, then. Not gonna miss someone that hates the idea of an advertisement saying “sexual harassment is bad”.

>> No.10308160

>>10308154
I also hate the idea of a world wide health organization saying that men who chops their dick off to be women are not ill.

>> No.10308162

>>10308154
>Not gonna miss someone that hates the idea of an advertisement saying “sexual harassment is bad”

Define sexual harassment. You will probably give me redd*t answer such as "Touching bobs and vaginers". Faggot shit

>> No.10308163

>>10308160
They aren’t. SRS is literally the treatment for some forms of gender dysphoria, and not all transgender women feel dysphoric about their penises. Many are fine with the idea of having a feminine penis. Sounds hot to me.

>> No.10308164

Perceptions of non-conforming males and the probing britches who do this as an invitation to be put in check. It's a shit teet to man up and go full sharia

>> No.10308166

>>10308162
https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sexual_harassment.cfm

>You will probably give me redd*t answer such as "Touching bobs and vaginers".

Again with the making stuff up. Curious how you do that.

>Faggot shit

Venting the homophobia now.

>> No.10308170

If you want a real answer: yes. /pol/ likes to brag about confronting the fact that blacks are overrepresenting in commiting crime, but if you bring up the fact that men are overwhelmingly responsible for more crime than women, they REEEEE

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>>10308166
>Venting the homophobia now.

Faggot. Knew you would give me response from redd*t

>> No.10308176

>>10308173
>Faggot. Knew you would give me response from redd*t

And reduced to ad hominem attacks and rambling about Reddit. Back to /pol/.

>> No.10308179

>>10308163
>unironically thinks that men wanting to be women is a good thing and totally not a illness
Lmao

>> No.10308187

>>10308179
>>unironically thinks that men wanting to be women is a good thing and totally not a illness

Never said it was a “good” thing, only that it wasn’t a mental illness, and it isn’t by definition since the medical authorities no longer define it as such. Back to /pol/ where lying is okay.

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>>10308176
You are cute redd*tling. Now shoo shoo to your SJW site.

>> No.10308196

>>10308188
>You are cute redd*tling. Now shoo shoo to your SJW site.

I don’t use Reddit. Provide an argument or the well of attention will dry.

>> No.10308198

>>10308187
Then show me scientific facts that proves that these people are 100% sane

>> No.10308203
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>>10308196
Say the line Red*it!

TOXIC

>> No.10308212

>>10308187
Something that requires medication or mutilating ones body is by its very definition an illness. Appeal to authority does not rebuke this fact.

>> No.10308215

>>10308198
Insanity is defined as being seriously mentally ill, and being transgender is not considered a mental illness any longer, so......now what?

>>10308203
Looks like the well dried up. Youll have to move on to new pastures.

>> No.10308217

>>10307930
It is really funny that SJWs talk about toxic masculinity since it's women's fault that some men are like that in the first place.
Throughout history women have created and reinforced these toxic traits in men so they can more easily manipulate them.

>> No.10308221

>>10308212
>Something that requires medication or mutilating ones body is by its very definition an illness.

Being transgender doesn’t require medication or “mutilating ones body”. Some forms of gender dysphoria may require surgery or HRT to alleive it , and there are various treatments for that like HRT and SRS.

>Appeal to authority does not rebuke this fact.

Never said it did. What?

>> No.10308223

>>10307930
>toxic masculinity
that's just regular masculinity which culture warriors are trying to do away with
>>10308052
It really isn't
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6596225/Meet-woke-women-Gillettes-controversial-toxic-masculinity-ad.html

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>>10308215
>Looks like the well dried up. Youll have to move on to new pastures.

Okay redd*t take care. Dont let the toxic masculinity, homophobia, racism, sexism and all other made up stuff to hit you on your ass when you will be leaving.

>> No.10308229

>>10308217
That’s an inadvertent concequence of differing biology between genders. This is nothing wrong with believing toxic masculinity exists, as long as you also believe toxic femininity exists.

>> No.10308234

>>10308228
>Racism isn’t real


/pol/trolls are truly astounding.

>> No.10308236

>looking at women
BAAAAAD

A trait that has been present in human history for thousands and thousands of years, suddenly and abruptly is condemned.
The human race will be extinct in a hundred years.

>your face when you realize "metoo" and feminism as a whole is a subversive plot to accelerate the depopulation of the planet
finally being an /x/tard is putting the world into perspective.

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>>10308234
>Racism isn’t real
>/pol/trolls are truly astounding

Hmmm i guess you are right. But in 100% white country the racism wouldn't be real. So we should strive towards this goal. Ay?

>> No.10308253

>>10308243
>Hmmm i guess you are right. But in 100% white country the racism wouldn't be real.

Yeah, because there’s never been racism between ethnicities within the “white” construct.....

>So we should strive towards this goal. Ay?

Nah. Let’s racemix until we are all a shade of warm brown.

>> No.10308255

>>10308170
That's actually a good point.
I haven't watched the Gillette ad because I really don't care about most internet drama. But I find it strange that the "anti-SJW" types who complain about other people being oversensitive will absolutely flip their shit if they think anything about men (or white people) is being criticized. Some feminists really do have retarded ideas - that does not mean that there are not harmful "manly" tendencies like not going to the doctor, not talking about your emotions, doing stupid dangerous shit to show off etc. that should be criticized. You do not have to larp as some caricature of a hardass your entire life to be a man. And just as female social groups push each other down with cattiness, there are many male social groups who do the same thing; shaming their friends because they avoid casual sex or binge drinking or try to make healthy choices. But typically I find that the MRA types who refuse to critique male behaviour will still complain about the consequences of it.

>> No.10308263

>>10308255
Just ignore them unless you want to amuse yourself pointing out informal fallacies. Barely anyone cares about that shit on a national population level.

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>>10308253
>Nah. Let’s racemix until we are all a shade of warm brown.

Poor redd*tling genetics dont work this way. But whatever makes you happy.

>> No.10308275

>>10307930
Just saw the commercial and t-b-h I don't get what the big deal is.

>> No.10308281

>>10308265
>Poor redd*tling genetics dont work this way. But whatever makes you happy.

........yes they do. Entire countries are majority mulatto, exchanging genes inherited from white and black peoples with eachother, no individual being “white” or “black”. What?

>> No.10308282

>>10308265
Yeah I'm sure you're really proud to show off that you know how genetics work, but if you actually looked at mulatto in reality they don't look like they're black some amount and look white some amount, they pretty much all look like a half-way mix between both parents.

>> No.10308285

>>10308275
Problem manufacturing where there are none. They don’t have unarmed teenagers of their ethnicity being shot so they have to get mad about ads.

>> No.10308288

>>10308281
>>10308282
>Unironically defending mixed goblins
I guess it's American thing to let your race die. Good for me at least you will stop playing world police.

>> No.10308297

>>10308282
>>10308281
Will fix itself in 3-4 generations. The first generation looks mulatto. Futher wont.

>> No.10308298

>>10308243
>But in 100% white country the racism wouldn't be real
Only an American would say this retarded shit. Was Cromwell not racist to the Irish? Was Stalin not racist to the Ukrainians? Was Hitler not racist to the Polish? Was Franco not racist to the Basque people? How about the Rwandan genocide - both Tutsi and Hutu ethnicities look entirely black an outsider, and yet persecution and murder still managed to take hold, because those people had the same mentality as you.
Even if the entire world was 100% white, /pol/fags would find new shit to divide themselves. They already believe the Jews are literal demon worshipping vampires that rape children in pizza parlor basements, so what's next?

>> No.10308306

>>10308288
>I guess it's American thing to let your race die.

I don’t care about races, only people and other sentient beings, since a “race” is not an entity that experiences wellbeing or suffering.

>Good for me at least you will stop playing world police.

Go to /pol/.

>> No.10308309

>>10308297
Yeah those Brazilians will magically turn white or black any day now.

>> No.10308315

>>10308298
Irish were basically niggers to other Americans a century ago. They had a foreign religion, Catholicism, and lived in slums.

>> No.10308321

>>10308265
Actually, he's right. Skin color is polygenic, not a simple case of being recessive when heterozygous in a single allele pairing.

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>>10308298
>Only an American would say this retarded shit. Was Cromwell not racist to the Irish? Was Stalin not racist to the Ukrainians?

Wasnt racism. More like hate their nationality. Please see what racism mean if you want to use this word.

>>10308306
>I don’t care about races, only people and other sentient beings, since a “race” is not an entity that experiences wellbeing or suffering.

Race determines intelligence and behavior so yes. It it's own entity.

>Yeah those Brazilians will magically turn white or black any day now.

Many of them wont. Some of them will. Depends on genetic lottery. They will turn futher into native looking population thus destroying the idea of everyone being luke warm brown.

>> No.10308326

>>10308221
What you’re suggesting is that somebody who feels like a different gender than the one correlating to their physiology, but doesn’t need any sort of medical treatment, isn’t mentally ill. Okay. So let’s see what possible concequences this leads to:

1. The person is a male that feels like a female, doesn’t seek medical treatment, continues to dress like a male, learns to act like a male, and just accepts they are a male and lives their life just fine or kills themselves

2. Person is a male that feels like a female, starts dressing and acting like a female and insists people treat her like a female, but declines medical treatment. When she’s young she may be able to pass as a female without a problem, but as she starts to grow older, it’s all but nearly impossible to continue looking like a female without treatment and has to do either 1 or 3.

3. They take treatment

Any way you look at the transgender issue, you’re either ignoring you have an illness, perhaps even successfully, or confronting you have an illness. There are plenty of examples of people who have a mental illness but learn to live just fine without medical treatment, that doesn’t make it not an illness. It’s a joke that medical authorities kowtow to pressure from politics to classify something that is very clearly an illness as not an illness.

>> No.10308329

>>10308315
I guess those traits were magically bred out of them in a single century.

>> No.10308341

>>10308323
>Race determines intelligence and behavior so yes. It it's own entity.

Can I please see the control you used in the experiment to confirm this? I’m interested in seeing a planet identical to earth, only without racism, that is apparently nearby.

>Many of them wont. Some of them will. Depends on genetic lottery. They will turn futher into native looking population thus destroying the idea of everyone being luke warm brown.

Literally refuted yourself, since you first claimed it would “fix itself in 3-4 generations, only the first generation looks mulatto.” and South American natives ARE LUKEWARM BROWN.

>> No.10308352

>>10308187
Jesus christ.
This is why you shouldnt post in sci if youre not at least an undergrad in a stem field. No, psychology is not stem.
Fuck off back to r eddit.

>> No.10308356

>>10308341
Genetics proved the point a long time ago, retard. Niggers literally havr genes and proteins that makes them more aggro

>> No.10308358

>>10308187
Dysphoria is caused by botched brain development. A guy's brain wired and thinks like a woman's will cause dysphoria. How the fuck is this not a disease like cystic fibrosis? Or Downs?

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>>10308341
>Can I please see the control you used in the experiment to confirm this?

Europe and Africa for example.

>Literally refuted yourself, since you first claimed it would “fix itself in 3-4 generations, only the first generation looks mulatto.” and South American natives ARE LUKEWARM BROWN.

I have said that some of them in 3-4 generations will turn back to white or to latino. Ay?

>> No.10308364

>>10308326
>1. The person is a male that feels like a female, doesn’t seek medical treatment, continues to dress like a male, learns to act like a male, and just accepts they are a male and lives their life just fine or kills themselves

2. Person is a male that feels like a female, starts dressing and acting like a female and insists people treat her like a female, but declines medical treatment. When she’s young she may be able to pass as a female without a problem, but as she starts to grow older, it’s all but nearly impossible to continue looking like a female without treatment and has to do either 1 or 3.

They don’t have to do anything, just keep being a woman.

>3. They take treatment

That’s what people with significant dysphoria do, yes. And?

>Any way you look at the transgender issue, you’re either ignoring you have an illness, perhaps even successfully, or confronting you have an illness.

Not an illness. Gender dysphoria is an illness, one solved by treatment or simply rejecting gender norms entirely, which I suggest we do.

>There are plenty of examples of people who have a mental illness but learn to live just fine without medical treatment, that doesn’t make it not an illness.

Irrelevant.

>It’s a joke that medical authorities kowtow to pressure from politics to classify something that is very clearly an illness as not an illness.

Not an illness, since it doesn’t harm you to be trans.

>> No.10308369

>>10308323
>Wasnt racism. More like hate their nationality. Please see what racism mean if you want to use this word.
Contemporary sources to Cromwell claimed the Irish had tails and demonic admixture, and later caricatures in the 19th century compared them to apes and claimed they had a recent African ancestry. So clearly there was a racial element, whether or not it's convenient for your stormfag narrative to admit it. But you could bring up the persecution of Travellers in Britain all the same. Race and nationality have never been entirely separate concepts; which is why ethnicity is a concept.

>> No.10308377

>>10308359
>>Can I please see the control you used in the experiment to confirm this?

Cute cut you did there, ignoring the stipulation that this control must have no racism. It would also have to have completely equal economic and dietary situations.

>I have said that some of them in 3-4 generations will turn back to white or to latino. Ay?

Some could by mating with people that are members of the “white” or “Latino”(Not even a real thing) populations, until their genes are diluted sufficiently that descendants pass as “white” or
“Latino”, but most wont, because the mulatto population of Brazil has existed for centuries, and is growing.

>> No.10308379

>>10308364
>Fucked brain wiring is not an illness!
Im pretty sure that vaccines are responsible for that. After all, its just like autism right? Am I smart now? Fucking retard

>> No.10308382

>>10308358
Nope. Gender dysphoria is caused by a sense of disconnection between one’s gender identity and their anatomy. One way of solving it is abandoning the idea that penises are “male” and vaginas are “female”. Fine with me.

>> No.10308389

>>10308379
>Im pretty sure that vaccines are responsible for that. After all, its just like autism right? Am I smart now? Fucking retard


What?

>> No.10308397

>>10308379
Not him, but do you define "fucked brain wiring"? There is no switch in the mind that turns sanity on or off, and nature does not label anyone mentally ill. These categorizations are found purely in psychology.

>> No.10308399

>>10308382
You dumb cunt. Dysphoria is caused by a brain developing structurally like the brain of the opposite gender. Male and female brains are different. If a male grows a brain that works like a female brain, he will have a disconnect, aka gender dysphoria. Its caused by different thinking and perception patterns because your brain's fucked, not because of what's between your legs.

Try learning something other than gender studies if you want to keep a job

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>>10308377
> It would also have to have completely equal economic and dietary situations

Hmmm? Is perhaps African soil in lower nutrition than European one? Or perhaps are African rocks lesser in minerals than European ones?

>ignoring the stipulation that this control must have no racism

And how should i do this? There was always racism and there will always be. Either with your liberal agenda or without it.

>until their genes are diluted sufficiently that descendants pass as “white” or
“Latino”, but most wont, because the mulatto population of Brazil has existed for centuries, and is growing.

You are mistaking mulattos with latinos.

>> No.10308407

>>10308397
Structural differences and the way info is processed differs in males and females. Eg the corpus callosum is thicker in females, thus they can connect emotion to language more effectively. That's what I meant-wrongly debeloped brains having erroneous thought patterns

>> No.10308412

I'll tell you what, how quickly this thread took off really is symptomatic of the /pol/ spill.

>> No.10308420

>>10308412
>Reject liberal braindead bullshit
>Waaaaah pol!
What's your next move?

>> No.10308423

>>10308399
>You dumb cunt. Dysphoria is caused by a brain developing structurally like the brain of the opposite gender.

No, that’s being trans.

>Male and female brains are different.

Mind blown

>If a male grows a brain that works like a female brain, he will have a disconnect, aka gender dysphoria.

No, he’d be trans. He’d only have gender dysphoria if he’s uncomfortable with his anatomy.

>Its caused by different thinking and perception patterns because your brain's fucked

“Fucked” is not a scientific term.

>not because of what's between your legs.

Genitals can be a source of dysphoria for many trans people.

>Try learning something other than gender studies if you want to keep a job

Not an argument.

>> No.10308425
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10308425

Lesbian here.

Just a reminder that we are taking over. The fact is women have NEVER been attracted to men: we needed them for protection, economic support and procreation, and sex is what we traded for those things (or they just raped us).

But now? First-world men have been totally domesticated, so no need to worry about violence. We're taking over the work force too, so we can provide for ourselves. And medical science has made procreative sex totally unnecessary; we can just buy the sperm (with our superior earnings) and have it cleanly injected without getting within ten feet of a penis.

Women are naturally more attracted to other women. Who wouldn't be? We're beautiful, soft and smooth and curvy, basically the opposite of hairy oafish ape-like men. And we know how to please each other like no man ever could. Lesbian sex can last for hours.

Every day more and more "straight" girls are being turned. The world of the future is where a small number of strong men act as our designated studs and the rest of you losers are eunuchs designated for manual labor exclusively. Deal with it.

>> No.10308427

>>10308400
>And how should i do this? There was always racism and there will always be. Either with your liberal agenda or without it.

Oh, if racism must exist, then no control can exist and thus your claims can’t be verified.

>You are mistaking mulattos with latinos.

Over 40% of Brazil’s population is “Pardo” or “mixed”.

>> No.10308429

>>10308423
Alright then, why dont you define dysphoria and what causes it? Its not a person seeing themselves as someone of the opposite sex, this view is not caused by bad brain growth and trans is not dysphoric. What the fuck is it then?

>> No.10308431

>>10308427
Humans came from africa. The origin of the human race can be traced back there. They have abundant resources of all kinds and africa has amazing biodoversity and varied environments. Explain why niggers chose to live in mud huts all these millennia?

>> No.10308434

>>10307942
You forgot tne most important, because Jews.

>> No.10308436

>>10308364
>Not an illness. Gender dysphoria is an illness, one solved by treatment or simply rejecting gender norms entirely, which I suggest we do.

Tell me how ADHD or Alcoholism is a mental illness but transgenderism is not using this same train of thought. Plenty of alcoholics or people with ADHD tell themselves they don’t have a problem, but medical society doesn’t enable that mindset. Tell me what fundamentally is the difference between transgenders and alcoholics or people with ADHD, Bipolarism, OCD, or social anxiety?

>> No.10308437

>>10308429
“Gender dysphoria is a condition where a person experiences discomfort or distress because there's a mismatch between their biological sex and gender identity. It's sometimes known as gender incongruence.
Biological sex is assigned at birth, depending on the appearance of the genitals. Gender identity is the gender that a person "identifies" with or feels themselves to be.
While biological sex and gender identity are the same for most people, this isn't the case for everyone. For example, some people may have the anatomy of a man, but identify themselves as a woman, while others may not feel they're definitively either male or female.
This mismatch between sex and gender identity can lead to distressing and uncomfortable feelings that are called gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, for which treatment is sometimes appropriate. It's not a mental illness.
Some people with gender dysphoria have a strong and persistent desire to live according to their gender identity, rather than their biological sex. These people are sometimes called transsexual or trans people. Some trans people have treatment to make their physical appearance more consistent with their gender identity.

Does the incongruence between your anatomy and gender identity cause you DISTRESS? Does that BOTHER you? If so, you have gender dysphoria. Not all trans women are dysphoric about their penises or chests.

>> No.10308439

>>10308298
>Jews are literal demon worshipping vampires

but they are. They kill children in blood libels during the Pesach.

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>>10308427
>Oh, if racism must exist, then no control can exist and thus your claims can’t be verified.

My calims are vertified you are just living in your own world where you think everyone are kind. Sunshine and rainbows. You made up some bullshit and you are now telling me that my claims are bullshit because it's not going with your liberal narrative. Dont make me laugh reddi*tling.

>> No.10308442

>>10308436
>Tell me how ADHD or Alcoholism is a mental illness but transgenderism is not using this same train of thought.

ADHD and alcoholism harm you and/or those around you.

>>10308431
They didn’t! Many African people’s formed nationstates with city walls, palaces, gold mines, etc. People made houses from mud because that’s what works there.

>> No.10308444

>>10308440
>My calims are vertified you are just living in your own world where you think everyone are kind. Sunshine and rainbows. You made up some bullshit and you are now telling me that my claims are bullshit because it's not going with your liberal narrative. Dont make me laugh reddi*tling.

If your claims are verified, show me the duplicate earth with no racism and completely homogenous living standards so that we can determine that race is the factor that causes IQ differences.

>> No.10308445

>>10308437
And what does gender identity, the cause of all this depend on? Could it be the way you think? Perhaps the way your brain works?

>Not all trans are dysphoric!
Fuck right off. Trans people become trans BECAUSE theyre dysphoric. You dont choose to slice your dick off and dress in frocks unless you were majorly fucked in the head or felt a need to change your physical gender to match your identity aka dysphoria. Fucking liberal inbred

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>>10308442
>They didn’t! Many African people’s formed nationstates with city walls, palaces, gold mines, etc

WE

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10308449

>>10308444
>show me the duplicate earth with no racism and completely homogenous living standards so that we can determine that race is the factor that causes IQ differences.

As i said i cant do that because you just made this shit up. I cant show you different planet which you made up.

DO

YOU

COMPRENHEND?

>> No.10308451

>>10308442
Wanna tell us how good it feels when black man drills his bbc into your ass next?

>> No.10308454

>>10308442
>ADHD and alcoholism harm you and/or those around you.

Do you have anything to back up this theory? Show me suicide/violent crime rates of transgenders and people with ADHD.

>> No.10308458

>>10308445
>And what does gender identity, the cause of all this depend on? Could it be the way you think? Perhaps the way your brain works?


Of course it’s the brain, goofus. That’s where the mind is, not in the calf muscles or the breast tissue.

>Fuck right off. Trans people become trans BECAUSE theyre dysphoric.

What? No. People are trans BECAUSE they have different brains. You’re contradicting yourself now.

>You dont choose to slice your dick off

They don’t. They have doctors do it, and that’s ARS, not just being trans.

>and dress in frocks

Wearing female clothing as a male does not mean one is trans. That’s just gender nonconformity. A trans woman may wear female clothing because she wants to assume the role of a woman, and that’s not dysphoria, because clothes aren’t...part of your body. She could also keep wearing guy clothes, which is gender nonconformity, because women don’t have to dress like women. They can wear sweatpants or blue jeans or overalls.

>unless you were majorly fucked in the head or felt a need to change your physical gender to match your identity aka dysphoria. Fucking liberal inbred

Wanting to change your anatomy to match your identitied gender is dysphoria, yes. I didn’t say it wasn’t. /pol/tard is getting mad lmao

>> No.10308459

>>10308437
>Not as a mental illness
Makes sense if youre running female software perfectly in male hardware, you would see dysphoria
>Recognized as a medical condition
Treatment is mutilation, monsterization with hormones that dont belong in your vody, and torture until you kill yourself

>> No.10308462

>>10308447
>What is Mali
>What is Nubia
>What is Ethiopia
>What is Songhai
>What is Kilwa

>>10308449
If you have no control that eliminates other factors, how on earth did you determine it was “race” decided intelligence?

>> No.10308464

>>10308451
Pretty good, but I’m not into black guys very much. Not as hairy as Arab or Indian guys. Black girls are great, though. Love those brown pussies with the pink insides.

>>10308454
https://adhd-institute.com/burden-of-adhd/impact-of-adhd/

https://drugabuse.com/alcohol/the-effects-of-alcohol-use/

>> No.10308465

>>10308462
>how on earth did you determine it was “race” decided intelligence?

Simply by my sight. I see black = low intelligence. I see white = high intelligence. This is just straight fact.

>> No.10308467

>>10308400
>>10308400
>Hmmm? Is perhaps African soil in lower nutrition than European one? Or perhaps are African rocks lesser in minerals than European ones?
Sarcasm aside, this is literally the case. Iodine deficiencies are rampant in Africa and can lower IQ by around 13 points
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/10639150_Iodine_deficiency_disorders_in_South_Africa
African communities also have higher exposure to infectious diseases like malaria in childhood, which has been proven to lower IQ in other countries like Mexico
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1679164
As does the prevalence of other parasites
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2010.0973
Even in the US, black Americans have higher exposure to neurotoxic chemicals like lead both in their natal environment and childhood
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412017306025

I'm not the guy you're responding to, and I don't think genetics plays *no* difference in these intelligence gaps. But environmental differences are well documented and account for a greater proportion than what /pol/fags might have you believe. Very few studies on the heritability of IQ control for nutritional deficiencies or infection or blood-lead concentrations as variables, consideration is almost entirely given to education and economic factors, which account for some environmental differences in intelligence but perhaps not as much as the "nurture side" has tried to argue, at least not directly.
Epigenetics is also a relatively new field and I'm sure there are more discoveries to be made on the interaction between the two. The idea that the race-intelligence debate is "settled" by some sort of biological determinist victory and that no further investigation is needed is grossly oversimplified, especially considering that genetic differences themselves are relics of past environmental conditions. Why would selective pressure favor intelligence in Europe and not Africa?

>> No.10308475

>>10308459
>Makes sense if youre running female software perfectly in male hardware, you would see dysphoria

No, a female brain would be female hardware, and humans aren’t computers. You would see dysphoria if you experienced discomfort or stress from a perceived mismatch between your anatomy and your identified gender, which, again, not all trans people feel.

>Treatment is mutilation

No, it’s SRS.

>monsterization with hormones that dont belong in your vody

Not a medical term, and human males have estrogen in their bodies. What?

>and torture until you kill yourself

Can’t say I’ve heard of torturing yourself as a treatment for any illness. Citation needed.

>> No.10308476

>>10308458
Try reading your earlier comments
>>10308382
>>10308423
If anyone is contradicting themselves, its you. I also see cherrypicking and circular reasoning. Go back to your gender studies class where you can never be wrong, dumb cunt

>> No.10308477

>>10308467
>Why would selective pressure favor intelligence in Europe and not Africa?

Because of cold sir. Europe is cold and in order to survive people had to think.

>> No.10308478

>>10308465
I see white=low intelligence.

I don’t need a source or proof, it’s just “sight”, yeah?

>> No.10308479

>>10308458
Wanting to “dress like the opposite gender” literally means your identity is attached to gender, not rejecting heteronormative behavior. It was popular for men in the 80s to dress like fags. It was popular for emos in the early 2000s to grow their hair out and wear tight jeans. Romans wore skirts. 16-17th century enlightenment men wore wigs.

What exactly are the heteronormative behaviors you’re trying to get rid of? There is no strict definition of what men and women wear anyway, and constantly changes. Transgenderism attaching itself to wanting to do opposite gender stereotypes makes it by definition a trend.

>> No.10308480

>>10308476
Nope, no contradiction there. You’re conflating being trans with gender dysphoria.

>> No.10308481

>>10308478
>I don’t need a source or proof, it’s just “sight”, yeah?

Again making shit up. Of course there are smart and stupid whites but comparing to blacks there is literally no discusions.

>> No.10308483

>>10308407
But what makes them erroneous? You're basically admitting that there is a biological basis for why they feel mentally like they are the opposite sex - and that's what they mean when they talk about gender dysphoria. They're perfectly aware of what their body is.

>> No.10308484

>>10308464
>Education – children and adolescents with ADHD may perform less well than controls in school-related assessments9-13
Whoa a problem that also effects transgenders
>Employment – adult ADHD has been associated with difficulties with workplace productivity and maintaining employment13-18
Whoa a problem that also effects transgenders
>Relationships – ADHD symptoms can contribute to misunderstandings in social situations and put strain on relationships with family, friends, teachers and colleagues13,14,19
Whoa a problem that also effects transgenders
>Quality of life – patients and their families have reported poorer quality of life than control groups in several studies1,9,20-22
Whoa a problem that also effects transgenders
>Finances – ADHD can also be associated with substantial financial burden for individuals, families and societal healthcare services.
Whoa a problem that also effects transgenders

There is literally nothing different. ADHD is “wrong” because it conflicts with normal societal behavior, but Transgenderism is fine despite having the same problem.

>> No.10308486

>>10308475
>Humans are not computers
Fuck off, human brains are perfectly comparable to computers
If not all trans people are dysphoric, why do they choose to change their gender and become trans in the first place? Privilege points?
>SRS
>Not mutilation
Lol. Screencap of the operation, and the dilation which is basically forcing a raw wound to stay open, aka torture
>Men have estrogen
Yeah, traces. Your HRT floods their blood with estrogen and other female hormones and this overload causes ball shrinking and sperm death, body pains, nausea, malaise and several other nasty side effects.

>> No.10308487

>>10308479
>Wanting to “dress like the opposite gender” literally means your identity is attached to gender, not rejecting heteronormative behavior.

Wrong. That’s simply gender nonconformity.

>It was popular for men in the 80s to dress like fags.

Gender nonconformity.

>It was popular for emos in the early 2000s to grow their hair out and wear tight jeans.

Gender nonconformity.

>Romans wore skirts.

Not gender nonconformity, because that was a normal male behavior then.

>16-17th century enlightenment men wore wigs.

See above.

>What exactly are the heteronormative behaviors you’re trying to get rid of?

The perception that any sort of clothing is more masculine or feminine than the other, same for anatomical characteristics.

>There is no strict definition of what men and women wear anyway, and constantly changes.

Yeah, that’s good.

>Transgenderism attaching itself to wanting to do opposite gender stereotypes makes it by definition a trend.

Nope. Women want to do “girl things” still and guys want to do “guy things” still, and concepts like “girl things” and “guy things” still exist. Claiming that a trans person would want to do things that are currently considered “the thing” of their identified gender is a tautology.

>> No.10308491

>>10308481
No, all whites are retards and all blacks have brains the size of dwarf planets.

>> No.10308492

>>10308420
Nothing, since you retards are so brainwashed that you don't accept studies. Unless they agree with your stunted worldview.
I think I'm just going to leave this awful place to burn, and start posting on the Reddit STEM boards, because they actually attempt to maintain quality.

>> No.10308494

>>10308483
>What makes them erroneous?
>Brain needs to develop ina certain way if the baby is carrying a y chromosome
>Lol nope, lets connect and grow this way instead
I dont know, I just assumed that since this is something so vanishingly rare and causes so much pain and discomfort, it had to be a mistake. My bad. Eat shit

>> No.10308498

>>10308492
Right. Are any of these studies on ncbi, lancet, elsevier or some other peer reviewed journal with evidence? Or are they just blogs of views and opinions you agree with?

>> No.10308499

>>10308491
Since you are slowly succumbing to delusions i will see myself out of this disucion so you can rethink your life choices. Maybe you should visit /pol/ and try to logically discuss with them to see if you are really that smart as you think you are. Take care.

>> No.10308503

>>10308486
>Fuck off, human brains are perfectly comparable to computers

Yeah hold on while I open up my command prompt and find my documents folder.

>If not all trans people are dysphoric, why do they choose to change their gender and become trans in the first place? Privilege points?

Whatever discomfort that exists independent of dysphoria is a desire to do “things” that the other gender does when society expects you to do the “things” of your assigned gender.

>Lol. Screencap of the operation, and the dilation which is basically forcing a raw wound to stay open, aka torture

No, torture is inflicted on people, typically captives, for the purpose of punishment, pleasure of a sadistic or masochistic nature, or to extract information.

>Yeah, traces. Your HRT floods their blood with estrogen and other female hormones and this overload causes ball shrinking and sperm death, body pains, nausea, malaise and several other nasty side effects.

And makes you grow tiddies. Hot.

>> No.10308505

>>10308499
>Maybe you should visit /pol/ and try to logically discuss with them to see if you are really that smart as you think you are.

/pol/ is almost as “logical” as /x/, as in not at all.

>> No.10308506

>>10308487
Being an emo in the early 2000s or a dressing like a metrosexual in the 80s is the opposite of nonconformity. That was popular. People dressed that what precisely because they wanted to do what everyone else was doing.

So if men can be convinced to wear skinny jeans because that was cool at the time, how is men being convinced they are transgender not also a trend?

>> No.10308507

>>10308505
>/pol/ is almost as “logical” as /x/, as in not at all.

you sure proved your "logic" in this very thread.

>> No.10308508

>>10308498
Lmao, shut up, you morons don't even understand what heritability means or measures.

>> No.10308511

>>10308506
>Being an emo in the early 2000s or a dressing like a metrosexual in the 80s is the opposite of nonconformity. That was popular.

Conformity within cliques, challenging prior orthodox.

>So if men can be convinced to wear skinny jeans because that was cool at the time, how is men being convinced they are transgender not also a trend?

How do you convince someone they have a female brain? That’s an objective thing, independent of whatever cultural norms that exist.

>> No.10308512

>>10308508
Ah, none then. I expected as much

But yeah, if this board had quality.control, you wouldve been kicked out when you started to derail the thread. Point to you, libtard. Try not to freak out on me wearing a maga cap and a trump shirt

>> No.10308514

>>10308512
Enjoy the impotent rage as the Hispanic population grows.

>> No.10308516

>>10308477
And yet places like South China and Japan have higher IQs than northern Europe despite being warmer, and Italy has the highest IQ in Europe despite being warm by European standards. Historically speaking, colder areas were also seldom cradles of civilization. Civilization emerged at first in Sumer, Egypt, Peru, the Indus valley, and the Yangtze river, and European cradles like Mycenae only developed agriculture after importing MENA crops like barley before they even farmed native crops like olives or poppies or oats. Clearly, the narrative that cold = IQ = advancement does not hold up.

>> No.10308518

>>10308503
>By the book definitions when it suits me
Classic college libtard. Planning a vacation to thailand for your operation as well?

>> No.10308521

>>10308516
Compare africans and indians. Pajeets shat the streets, but they also built amazing structures and had great metalworking, had several complex monarchies, played a role in global trade and actually won their independence several decades before Africa did. What did niggers do during the whole time? Skewer each other with wood sticks and rape monkeys, before and after enslavement. Tellig their most productive era was as slaves

>> No.10308524

>>10308518
>>By the book definitions when it suits me

Where did I do that? Be specific, little one, and show how it contrasts to a prior statement.

>Planning a vacation to thailand for your operation as well?

Nah. I don’t identify with any gender, and am fine with my current physiology. When the technology is there, I’d happily get a real female vagina so I can become a true hermaphrodite and worship Slaanesh.

>> No.10308526

>>10308512
I'm so glad he's getting rebuffed at every turn.

>> No.10308527
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10308527

>>10308516
>South China and Japan have higher IQs than northern Europe despite being warmer

I dont think they are warmer. Probably at the same warmth as Western or Eastern europe. Ching chongs are also genetically to us more like cousins while blacks are completly different species. Also chinks the literal CHINA men are scumbags who are cheating on IQ tests. So much for glorious communism and country of scam artist. Japan is legitime because they are mixed with Ainu which had caucasian mix.

> Italy has the highest IQ in Europe despite being warm by European standards

South italy is more warm the North is not. Also not highest IQ. If you going to make shit up at least check google for 0.1 second.

>Civilization emerged at first in Sumer, Egypt, Peru, the Indus valley, and the Yangtze river

Who knows what races they were. You dont me either.

>> No.10308531

>>10308521
>but they also built amazing structures and had great metalworking

Happened in Sub-Saharan Africa

>had several complex monarchies

Happened in Sub-Saharan Africa

>played a role in global trade

Happened in Sub-Saharan Africa, especially the east.

>and actually won their independence several decades before Africa did.

And?

>> No.10308535
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10308535

>>10308531
No libcuck, niggers were not kangs n shiet no matter how much you may want to believe it. In fact hieroglyphs depict them as slaves. Got something to say now?

>> No.10308541

>>10308535
>I get all my information from /pol/.
Lmao.

>> No.10308543

>>10308541
>I get all my information from liberal media
lmao.

>> No.10308549

>>10308535
I’m not talking about Egypt, you dumbass! LMAO

Mansa Musa, ever heard of him?

>> No.10308550

>>10308543
No, from academic journals.

>> No.10308554

>>10308550
Hmmm. Yes indeed. Published by mr. Goldberg if im not mistaken? Perhaps you can show me those academic journals so i can examine them sir?

>> No.10308556

>>10308527
>Also chinks the literal CHINA men are scumbags who are cheating on IQ tests.
Lmao, I guess Koreans, Japanese, Taiwan, Hong Kong and PRC all conspired to cheat on IQ test then huh. And they must have cooperated with Asian Americans to cheat and score higher overseas
>Who knows what races they were. You dont me either..
Ah, of course. The old "Egyptians were Scandinavian supermen" bullshit. Literally just as pathetic as Afrocentrist wewuzing.

>> No.10308561

>>10308554
God, why do the mods still let you post here? Does Hiro really only want this to be a /pol/ safespace?

>> No.10308562

>>10308554
WHO WAS MANSA MUSA?

>> No.10308564

>>10308549
Mansa musa
>Rich as a god
>Shall we prove our country and build infrastructure?
>Lol nope, lets go fuck bitches
>>10308550
Its impolite to not cite these references anon

>> No.10308566

>>10308535
Ethiopia had a medieval kingdom for 700 years

>> No.10308569

>>10308556
I have said china. Learn to read. Please i beg of you learn to read for once in your life time.

>Ah, of course. The old "Egyptians were Scandinavian supermen" bullshit. Literally just as pathetic as Afrocentrist wewuzing.

They could be they could be not. Only dna tests from sacrophagus which were done show that mumified remans had caucasian DNA.

>> No.10308570

>>10308561
>Ask for references
>pol deflecting
Evidence is a male construct after all,right?

>> No.10308571

>>10308564
>Mansa musa
>Rich as a god
>Shall we prove our country and build infrastructure?
>Lol nope, lets go fuck bitches

Goalpost moved. You’ve lost.

>> No.10308574

>>10308571
Explain to me why with such a wealthy king and all ygat shit, they still didnt do anything worthwhile and lived in mud huts, if they werent dumb rape-happy animals with lower IQ? I know the topic dumbfuck, now lets have your answer

>> No.10308575

>>10308561
>God, why do the mods still let you post here? Does Hiro really only want this to be a /pol/ safespace?

Why do they let post you? Isnt reddit better safe space? I told you to give me your academic journals.

>>10308562
>MANSA MUSA

Some muslim king? Not in egypt tho.

>> No.10308576

>>10308477
As if intelligence doesn't help with building shelters, making tools or farming and gathering in hot places.

>> No.10308578

>>10308574
Goalpost moved. You’ve lost.

>> No.10308579

>>10308576
it does but it's not necessary. Next logical reasoning please.

>> No.10308584

>>10308574
Africa has plenty of stone architecture
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalibela
Also, much huts are easy to make and thermally efficient if you live in a hot area. Same reason northern euros used wood and thatched huts to insulate heat.

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10308591

>>10308574
>>10308584
Not mud, adobe.

>> No.10308594

>>10308578
>Waaaaah you lost because i say so!
Why didnt you answer my question, anon?
>>10308584
India is hot as well. Do's china. Japan. Texas. They got with the times, why didnt niggers?

>> No.10308596

>>10308579
It doesn't even matter whether or not it's "necessary", so long as it confers a fitness advantage.

>> No.10308597
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10308597

>>10307930
It's a Social Construct so does not exist

>> No.10308598

>>10308591
>A glorified sandcastle to worship a child molester

>> No.10308599

>>10308594
>Why didnt you answer my question, anon?

Why did you move the goalpost when an actual black king was mentioned? You’ve failed. Go back to your containment board.

>> No.10308602

>>10308596
>It doesn't even matter whether or not it's "necessary"

It actually does.

>so long as it confers a fitness advantage

nope. Stop being stupid. Im really tired of this.

>> No.10308603

>>10308598
Muslims worship God, not Muhammad.

>> No.10308607

>>10308599
>Mansa musa
>Black
Oh my god, how retarded are you? He was an arab, you dumb bitch
And youre still dodging the question

>> No.10308611

>>10308602
>Offers survival advantage
>Doesnt matter!
>What is darwins theory of evolution
You should run along, its nearly bedtime. Go guzzle a gallon of onions and let jamal use your asshole again

>> No.10308614

>>10307930
>Is toxic masculinity real?

N, but toxic thread originator syndrome is real.

>> No.10308619

>>10308611
>You should run along, its nearly bedtime. Go guzzle a gallon of onions and let jamal use your asshole again

>It doesn't even matter whether or not it's "necessary"

>It doesn't even matter

Im done with you. Take care. Leaving this thread. Tired beyond hell with this.

>> No.10308632

>>10308619
Hey, bitch. Are you still lurking? NIGGERS ARE DUMB

>> No.10308661

>>10308154
nice plebbit spacing after the greentext

>> No.10308701

>>10308323
>It it's own entity.
>It it is own entity.
Stupid brainlet.

>> No.10308713

The whole "girls love evil guys" is just a fantasy made by incels who are obviously out of touch with reality.

Alpha chads are not evil. They are just winners. Bullying is a non issue. People who cry about it would be the same way if they could . also ultimately they eouldnt suffer if they didnt take it to heart like sissy fagots. Alpha chads also get "bullied" but since they spend their time in a positive way they just laugh it off with the group.


This is the ultimate redpill. Alpha chads are superior in every way. The idea that because they ae succesful hen they are mean is just a coping mechanism

>> No.10308718
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10308718

>>10308713
Here's your Alpha, my dood.

>> No.10308720

>>10308713
>>10308718
you need to raise your fucking frequency.

>> No.10308731

>>10307930
Toxic masculinity isn't a real condition, its politically motivated to target a wide area of straight males, the main rival faction to ultra feminists. The closest thing to toxic masculinity we have in real is anti-social behavior, and we put those people in prison. Toxic masculinity is essentially "doing something i don't like while being male" Yes, rape, sexual assault, harassment, bullying etc, those are bad things, they are antisocial behavior, but they are not exclusively male.

>> No.10308748

>>10307930
It is real in the sense that it is defined as masculinity that hurts the feefees of leftist pussies. It is caused by leftist pussies getting their feefees hurt very easily.

>> No.10308752

>>10307930
Yes, it's real, and it's a very simple concept. It's basically the excusing and tolerance of behaviors that are at best dickish and at worse deeply hurtful to one's self or others in the name of manliness.

Masculinity in and of itself is not toxic. It's made toxic by those who are insecure about their manhood and feel that they have something to prove and by those who need a convenient scapegoat for actions that wouldn't be seen as acceptable any other way.

And of course, women are capable of it too. A prime example is any time you hear a woman unironically parrot "real men don't cry".