How do you get accepted into these schools? High IQ?

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Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:38:49 2019 No.10305251 [Reply] [Original]

How do you get accepted into these schools? High IQ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:39:24 2019 No.10305252 Being black

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:42:58 2019 No.10305265 Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:46:27 2019 No.10305273 >>10305251 ooga booga where da degrees at

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:48:07 2019 No.10305279 >>10305251 Browse /b/ daily that ought to boost your IQ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:49:36 2019 No.10305285 >>10305252 >>10305265 >>10305273 >>10305279 serious answers ONLY

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:52:28 2019 No.10305293

>>10305285
We are serious though. Perfect situation for getting into those unis would be a black female mtf with high iq and that got into the news for helping the lgbtqaiop+ children of the neighbourhood.

Aside from that just be urself and study a lot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:54:23 2019 No.10305303 >>10305251 Have a lot of money and be born from an influential family, duh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:55:53 2019 No.10305306 >>10305293 I wanna black female MtF gf.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 18:58:04 2019 No.10305313 File: 205 KB, 501x445, 1547482479102.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305306 Please die

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 19:04:51 2019 No.10305328 Daily reminder that for undergrad a small liberal arts college is just as good or better, with the same grad school placement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 19:04:55 2019 No.10305329 File: 145 KB, 1805x465, notable alumni.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305251 imagine going to a cuck uni infested by liberal arts and paying 6 figure sums at the same time

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 19:10:01 2019 No.10305345 >>10305251 cornell is such a meme ivy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 19:12:05 2019 No.10305350 >>10305329 >Haber >Bosch >Wernher von fucking braun >Zuse >Hertz holy fucking based

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:27:31 2019 No.10305548 >>10305251 Apply to berkeley or UCLA and forget the ivy meme People who go to ivies are unironically morons It's embarrassing to be put in a tier with them

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:29:04 2019 No.10305553 >>10305251 Be a member of the (((tribe))).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:30:28 2019 No.10305558 >>10305553 >t. butthurt state-school Ph.D.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:32:43 2019 No.10305565 >>10305251 Be a legacy admit or a nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:34:20 2019 No.10305570 >>10305558 2% of the population but greater than 20% of the class...straight up kikery. DOTR is coming, Moshe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:35:17 2019 No.10305572 This board is so full of shit, it’s worse than /b/. If you’re asking “what’s the secret to getting into a top school?”, you definitely don’t fucking belong at one

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:37:39 2019 No.10305574 >>10305251 To get in for grad school, have a GPA near 4.0 and do research for a few years in your undergrad. t. rejected a couple Ivy acceptances

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:39:08 2019 No.10305579

>>10305251
A lot of it is pure chance. The seniors before my class, the only ones who got into the ivies were the lower ones like dartmouth or brown. My class, there was a Notredame Gang of like 7 people since they all got rejected from the ivies they applied to even though they had perfect gpas, APs, perfect standardized tests, and all the preppy clubs like forensics, debate, robotics etc. The only one I know who got into HYPS was a chinese girl from a well off family who had all those things and won a national science fair. In the science fair she somehow coordinated with a unversity prof and two other students from the west coast which is far from most people can do even if they are smart. Having connections like legacies, "charitable donations", or unique achievements "almost inevitably contingent on connections", is how you get in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:46:33 2019 No.10305597 File: 999 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20190117-174505.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305251 >>10305265 >>10305293 Pic related for those who are unaware

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:48:09 2019 No.10305604 >>10305251 John F Kennedy got accepted into Harvard despite the fact he had an extremely shitty academic record. You just need to be born into wealth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:48:26 2019 No.10305605 File: 880 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20190117-174423.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305597 https://mobile.twitter.com/ziadtheactivist/status/848215642385895425

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:52:23 2019 No.10305612

>>10305251
Go somewhere like this for prep school.

https://www.hw.com/

The CEO Disney/ABC Entertainment attended that school and then went on to Harvard and Oxford.

On the other end - I know two sisters of a Kentucky Redneck Army shit bag and a Korean hooker who both attended Ivy League schools; this is where they went to HS.

https://elcapitan.guhsd.net/

Most industries that require people skills are run by Ivy League and similar types, so a degree is necessary to get in the door.

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:56:26 2019 No.10305622

>>10305572
many accepted students ask exactly this question to their expensive college advisors.
>>10305574
Why'd you reject them anon?
>>10305597
people make a big deal out of this, his facebook literally has pictures of him with 2 presidents (he was invited to the White House), He created a nonprofit with a solid mission statement and has been recognized for his work in a lot of places with a lot of awards. His Facebook profile picture is with Hillary Clinton and his cover photo is with Barack Obama, who mentioned him by name in a speech, he's given TEDx talks (yes I know, independently organized=bad, but how many 18 year olds do you know who have done that?), he went to an elite high school, etc. etc.
>>10305548
UCLA and Berkeley have Ivy-tier acceptance rates for out of state students. Caltech is where all the high IQ individuals go
>>10305328
yfw Reed college, a grad school feeder, is one of the most liberal schools in the nation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:57:52 2019 No.10305626 >>10305612 don't forget Stanford Online for the intellectual autodidact with rich parents.

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 20:59:39 2019 No.10305632

Californians who are rejected and do not want to attend a reject UC campus, many times are accepted to Cornell/Brown/Dartmouth or other good publics like Michigan or UTAustin. Usually they will be paying full tuition; case in point Chris Schwarzenegger - current Michigan student.

I can tell you here in LA most people will be aware of this and your Brown degree will grant you no advantage over a UCLA degree.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:01:44 2019 No.10305637 Your dad donates to the endowment

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:01:51 2019 No.10305639 >>10305632 >t. butthurt UCLA M.Sc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:03:14 2019 No.10305645 >>10305622 Caltech is for basement dweller nerds - even worse than MIT. You never see their alumni in places where basic verbal communication is a requirement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:03:39 2019 No.10305647 >>10305251 rich parents

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:04:48 2019 No.10305649 Remember only one of the Bush Twins went to Yale, the other attended Texas. In this day and age Yale could not let in the duller twin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:06:25 2019 No.10305654 >>10305649 >yale doesn’t care to billionaire legacies kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:07:58 2019 No.10305659 >>10305622 >Why'd you reject them anon? I went to a better school that more suited my research interests.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:11:11 2019 No.10305670 File: 287 KB, 1082x695, 3CDE65F8-969E-455A-8609-2DE9F4F8B2C6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you actually have a PhD from an ivy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:14:24 2019 No.10305677 >>10305251 I had a 36 ACT and I didn’t get accepted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:14:57 2019 No.10305679 >>10305604 College admissions were much less competitive back then. Being rich was pretty much the only requirement for getting accepted into Harvard

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:15:26 2019 No.10305681
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The best school for a guy with soft skills is Colombia; surrounded by the majority of the worlds beautiful women.

For females UCLA is best; right in the richest part of LA.

I had to attend shit tier UC San Diego.

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:18:11 2019 No.10305687

Get good grades, ACT, write good essays, do something interesting in high school. All of these things aren't super ridiculously hard to do if you're close to being a real fucking person, which I totally wasn't until starting college, and am probably still not, so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:20:39 2019 No.10305690 Have money and know the right people

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:23:40 2019 No.10305701 >>10305679 That's a fact. If you've seen his essay, it's like "My dad went to Harvard, so I look forward to being a Harvard man." Not even exaggerating.

>>	Tuba Jam Thu Jan 17 21:34:19 2019 No.10305718 >>10305670 which undergrad? Do you research for a living? >>10305677 a high test score is no where near a reason to admit an application. >>10305687 Nah even that isn't enough anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:39:18 2019 No.10305726 >>10305718 >which undergrad? u first. doxxing yourself is an art. > Do you research for a living? yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 21:54:12 2019 No.10305742 >>10305726 Tuba Jam is a highschooler

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 22:00:12 2019 No.10305750 >>10305681 lol at ucsd rn. kinda shit tier but i like the fact that everyone is a sperg shut because i dont like talking to random people

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 22:07:20 2019 No.10305761 who gives a shit where you go to undergrad? Graduate school is all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 22:10:09 2019 No.10305768 >>10305742 is he? i thought he was one of those “cool dad” liberal boomers, 65-72 yo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 22:11:58 2019 No.10305774 >>10305768 He made posts asking about undergrad recommendations before

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 22:52:47 2019 No.10305854 >>10305750 I regret not just staying home and going to CS Northridge. In the end no one cares which reject school you attended.

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 23:00:38 2019 No.10305872
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>>10305252 >>10305265 >>10305251 >>10305273

Learn South African
Decolonized Math

https://youtu.be/C9SiRNibD14

https://undark.org/article/in-south-africa-decolonizing-mathematics/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 23:03:07 2019 No.10305879 >>10305854 let me rephrase what i said. ucsd isnt berkely or ucla, but its still pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 17 23:14:55 2019 No.10305903 >>10305251 Be a Jew, Papist, nigger or other undesirable There's no point in going to school anymore, they'll let any subhuman in

Anonymous Thu Jan 17 23:33:19 2019 No.10305948
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>go to public university in the deep south
>good fucking school
>receive email about research opportunity with MIT
>pic related
>"African American, Latino, Native American, Native Hawaiian & Pacific Islander, first-generation students, and students from low socio-economic backgrounds are strongly encouraged to apply"

It's gone too far. (((They))) must be stopped.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 01:02:45 2019 No.10306075 >>10305948 >good school >Deep South Kek. How’s LSU treating you? I hear the cheerleaders are hot at least

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 01:05:30 2019 No.10306079 >>10305251 How the fuck did David Hogg get into Harvard?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 01:06:33 2019 No.10306082 I’m going to community college for two years and then plan on transferring. What are my chances?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 01:19:12 2019 No.10306100 >>10305350 https://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/raketenkonstrukteur-wernher-von-braun-15976616.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 01:23:39 2019 No.10306106 >>10305622 lmao. caltech is literally full of autists. visiting the school gave me second-hand embarrassment. so glad they rejected me so that i could go to a better school.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 01:25:19 2019 No.10306109 >>10305948 MIT is a literal meme at this point. So glad to go to a school which accepts and grades based on merits like a UC school.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 03:44:13 2019 No.10306316 >>10305328 Only problem is too small becomes claustrophobic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 04:10:14 2019 No.10306343 File: 80 KB, 480x480, 1461532749560.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305251 >only burger unis kys

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 04:12:30 2019 No.10306344 File: 58 KB, 480x507, harvard ethnic discrimination.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305252 Jewish is even better. But as long as you are not a white gentile there is a chance, white gentiles better be legacy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 04:21:12 2019 No.10306353 >>10306344 Jews aren't a race. Therefore this graph is misleading

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 04:38:09 2019 No.10306366
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>>10306353
Neither is hispanic. However, they are an identifiable ethnicity. They are only treated as whites when it benefits them. 30% over representation is considered proof of systemic discrimination, and there is no way the Jewish people are that much more capable than white gentiles, and there is no reason to believe white gentiles are that inferior to other ethnicities.

Systemic discrimination is the only sensible explanation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 04:39:20 2019 No.10306369 >>10306100 what are you even trying to say

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 04:41:54 2019 No.10306370 >>10306344 Jews are classed as white but have measurably higher IQs than traditional whites. It's no surprise they're over-represented, although the degree of which they are (if the graph is accurate) is a bit sketchy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 04:44:29 2019 No.10306374 >>10306344 >graph doesn't even add up to 70% get back to Pol retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 05:08:27 2019 No.10306404 >>10306374 It also does not include asians. Or native Americans...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 05:12:13 2019 No.10306409 >>10306370 Except that gentile whites do not have lower IQs than hispanic or blacks, yet are far more underrepresented.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 07:06:14 2019 No.10306493 >>10306082 It depends on: The university you want to transfer to Your GPA Your selection of classes

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 07:26:30 2019 No.10306513

>>10305605
At first thought I imagined he got in because he supports a movement the uni supports. But it's actually worse than that. He said when asked that question he couldn't think of another answer. He said that black lives matter didn't need an explanation. This is stanford now. He got into university because he didn't question the doctrine. This is Liberal science.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 07:42:09 2019 No.10306523 >>10306513 The other parts of his application were perfect. So he probably felt comfortable enough to just simply write BLM a hundred times. Universities won't pay that much attention to your essay if you're not in a make-or-break situation

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 08:01:37 2019 No.10306551 File: 9 KB, 240x240, Krapfen-krapfen157996116.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305329 Based and Krautpilled

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 08:03:56 2019 No.10306555 >>10305251 has anyone out of these universities contributed anything significant to science?

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 08:25:25 2019 No.10306583

I have offers from 2 schools. Which one is best for a successful career?

1st uni has the exact course I want, all the way to PhD level. It is a well regarded school with decent alumni.

2nd uni has a course I am fairly interested in but definitely not as much as the first uni. It is also well regarded but the alumni is pretty insane compared to the first school. Many military generals, government officials, prime ministers and CEOs compared to the first school.

I won't name the unis as they aren't american so you wouldn't know them anyway, probably.

>>	Tuba Jam Fri Jan 18 08:56:56 2019 No.10306624 >>10305768 really strange, what was it that made you think that?

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:06:06 2019 No.10306634

>>10306555
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Harvard_University_people#Science,_technology,_medicine,_and_mathematics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cornell_University_alumni#Natural_sciences_and_related_fields

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Columbia_University_alumni_and_attendees#Science,_technology,_engineering,_mathematics

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:07:37 2019 No.10306638 >>10306583 I would pick one but thats absolutely the wrong choice and you would be a moron not to pick the second.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:08:42 2019 No.10306639 >>10305251 By going to Oxbridge or ETH.

Tuba Jam Fri Jan 18 09:09:04 2019 No.10306640

>>10306555
many, but there's a chance they would have done so without the education. Ivies pre-select for intelligence and other factors they believe correlate with success, so it isn't surprising that many students who went there end up successful.
>>10306079
he's an activist, and a nationally famous one at that, which is a quality more than 99.99% of Harvard applicants can't claim. His SAT, GPA, and more generally IQ aren't really a priority to Harvard; they want "future movers and shakers", and Hogg has proven himself to be a present one, which is even better.

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:12:15 2019 No.10306642

>>10306583
I think you should get opinions on the program for the second school and do some soul-searching to see how happy you would be with the 2nd's program ask yourself some questions. How happy would you be with the 2nd's program? Would you even have the social skills necessary to reach out network? Don't give too much weight to your love of the field as much as your ability and satisfaction with the day-to-day work itself.
>>10306639
ETH isn't english medium for undergrad FYI

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:14:31 2019 No.10306645

>>10306634
>harvard
list of literal who's aside from Oppenheimer and 2-3 others
Neil degrasse lmao
a fucking murderer is listed as well
>cornell
certainly better, but nowhere near this anons list >>10305329
>columbia
>start scrolling, literally only politics and famous architects and writers lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:17:21 2019 No.10306647 >>10306642 >ETH isn't english medium for undergrad FYI How so? Anything would be better than Ivy League by this point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:18:15 2019 No.10306650 >>10306645 MIT and Stanford have better lists of people who contributed to science, but they are technically not Ivy League universities

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:18:40 2019 No.10306652 >>10306638 >>10306642 I have an offers tour for the 2nd uni next week, so I'll see how much I like it. 1st uni is in a big metro city which i'm used to as I've lived in a city all my life while the 2nd is a big town 30min drive from a big city.

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:21:47 2019 No.10306654
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>>10306555
>has anyone out of these universities contributed anything significant to science?
the state of /sci/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation

>>10306634 >>10306640

Tuba Jam Fri Jan 18 09:23:22 2019 No.10306660

>>10306647
It's mostly german for undergrad: https://www.ethz.ch/content/dam/ethz/common/docs/weisungssammlung/files-en/languages-of-instruction.pdf
>>10306652
better get a car and learn how to network. You can even start now and say your are a prospective student at uni 2 and get an insiders view of the good and bad parts rather than just what the admissions department wants you to know. Make sure you vet your advisor thoroughly, a bad one can ruin you. http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=BA68CCB3AB3469D66319D09148D3BED5
>>10306654
I'd normally say his post was bait but I can't tell at this point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:34:42 2019 No.10306679 >>10306654 affiliations don't count retard, we are talking about alumni, i.e. people who were educated at that university.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:39:02 2019 No.10306686 >>10305251 You have to be a black lesbian from a wartorn country.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:50:44 2019 No.10306713 >>10306654 >affiliates literally "what uni has the most money to attract Nobel laureates"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 09:54:28 2019 No.10306719 >>10306660 >I'd normally say his post was bait but I can't tell at this point he's right tho, now that I think about it, 99% of "notable alumnis" are rich kid politicians or celebrities

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 11:19:56 2019 No.10306893 >>10306551 mmmmhhh

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 11:24:28 2019 No.10306907 >>10305579 shut the fuck up faggot >>10305632 >believing this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 11:25:53 2019 No.10306910 >>10306907 t. angry berkeley or ucla reject

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 11:29:07 2019 No.10306920 >>10306910 Californians all partake in the same ugly self injurious narcissism, no one wants to live in your spic flesh pot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 11:35:43 2019 No.10306938 >>10306640 >Ivies pre-select for intelligence >His SAT, GPA, and more generally IQ aren't really a priority retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 11:44:53 2019 No.10306963 >>10306920 Hell, I don't want to live here either, but it's not that bad. Especially near a good school. People here are obnoxious but the environment is beautiful and the food is delicious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 11:47:33 2019 No.10306972 >>10305251 >american “universities”

Tuba Jam Fri Jan 18 11:54:56 2019 No.10306986

>>10306938
intelligence *and other factors* like, say, being a nationally recognized activist. IQ isn't as important as chutzpah and recognition in politics, and he's said that's what he wants to do.
SAT and GPA aren't a big deal to ivies because a 36 ACT/1600 SAT + 4.00 GPA does not qualify an applicant for acceptance on grounds of academic quality since those are a dime a dozen. When selecting their academic stars they look at international olympiads, Intel talent search, etc. What you need to undrstand is that Harvard has to uphold more than just a reputation for academic research excellence (for which their graduate schools do most of the work anyways) - they need their undergraduate college to be the alma mater of future politicians, journalists, media producers, bankers, CEO's, etc, almost all of which can be selected better by using data points besides standardized test scores and GPA.
If Harvard tried to only use intelligence in determining who to send their undergraduate acceptances to, their yield rate would drop drastically to students going to MIT, Princeton, Berkeley, etc. Harvard's undergraduate college is motivated by more than just academics.

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 12:48:05 2019 No.10307102

>>10305761
>>10305574
current plan rn, i have the GPA part but havent done much of anything else. what kind of research did you do? I have some ideas, i get emails about undergraduate research and essay contests all the time but im not sure which ones are worth the effort and which ones arent

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 13:56:49 2019 No.10307269 My hapa friend got into cornell despite getting a D in Gen Chem I her first semester at community college, so I'll let that answer the question.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 14:00:56 2019 No.10307277 >>10306986 its motivated by nepotism and credentialism you’re right my semitic conspecific

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 14:06:02 2019 No.10307290 >>10306374 >What are Asians: the post

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 14:07:15 2019 No.10307293 How close of relatives do you have to be for filial nepotism to matter? Does it have to be direct family like siblings or parents or can it be cousins?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 15:10:18 2019 No.10307460 >>10306106 cope, Caltech is top tier

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 15:21:16 2019 No.10307483 >>10305328 nice cope fuel liberal sharts fag your bachelor at your small unknown school is worthless so it becomes necessary to go to grad school

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 15:31:29 2019 No.10307505
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Out the fucking way. Low-tier state university graduate coming through. While all you cucks have tens of thousands in student debt I'm out here with none. Talk all the shit you want, but I'm financially secure and not incurring huge amounts of interests.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 15:35:18 2019 No.10307514 >>10305579 unironically this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 16:22:09 2019 No.10307623 File: 1.09 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_3436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dont be a brainlet

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 16:28:24 2019 No.10307633 >tfw youll never be at columbia doing your journalism degree to then work for the new york times writing feminist pieces

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 16:29:22 2019 No.10307637 >>10307623 holy shit that's a yale building right, not your house? i didn't know yale started the semester yet... if that's your house then woooowwww

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 16:35:31 2019 No.10307655 >>10307269 Compared to other Ivy League schools, it's pretty easy to transfer into Cornell University.

Tuba Jam Fri Jan 18 16:36:37 2019 No.10307660

>>10307102
you should be doing at least SOMETHING. Talk to your professors to see which have the most merit but remember: a lot of work into an unpublished manuscript>>>>no work. What year are you in? Be sure to work with professors so you can get specific letters of recommendation when the time comes.
>>10307293
pretty sure only children of alumni get the boost
>>10306106
>>10307460
The funny thing is you're both right.
>>10307483
For a lot of fields it's necessary anyways, but I think >>10305328 was talking about those who are going to grad school anyways.
>>10307505
https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/net-price-calculator <- this is how much you would have had you gotten in.
Not like it matters anyways, did you go to grad school or straight into industry? Which field?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 16:45:06 2019 No.10307687 >>10307623 t. phoneposting brainlet

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 16:47:12 2019 No.10307701 >>10307660 >harvard gives scholarschips to anyone who gets in lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 16:49:04 2019 No.10307707 >>10307701 Yes. Not scholarship, financial aid. Any student that gets in will receive a non-loan grant that reflects their family's income.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 17:07:44 2019 No.10307760 >>10305251 Well, that Harvard lawsuit is trying to reveal all of Havard's dirty secrets so why don't you wait to find out?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 17:09:47 2019 No.10307768 >>10307660 Low tier state school anon. I got into graduate school for molecular biology PhD. Full funding as well. I plan going to industry afterwards. Rather make money than publish desu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 17:41:35 2019 No.10307866 >>10307768 >I'd rather wageslave for some chad and his blonde wife with big tits(your childhood friend) instead of furthering the domain of science desu Is what I heard

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 19:00:33 2019 No.10308069

>>10307102
I did research in electrochem. Email a few profs doing things that interest you and ask if you can "speak to them about their research sometime" (i.e., join their lab). If you even show a modicum of effort, like glancing over one of their papers or watching a video, then they'll be impressed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 19:57:25 2019 No.10308172 >>10306583 >>10306638 >>10306642 >>10306660 actually it'll help if I name the unis. 1st is UoManchester. 2nd is DurhamU

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 20:01:46 2019 No.10308181 >>10305251 These institutions discriminate AGAINST high IQ, you fool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 20:09:32 2019 No.10308204 >>10306353 >Jews aren't a race on what planet do you live?

>>	Tuba Jam Fri Jan 18 21:02:51 2019 No.10308410 >>10307768 You plan on going into pharma? What does the career and salary look like for molecular bio PhDs? >>10308181 Then go to Caltech, MIT, or Harvey Mudd.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 21:44:17 2019 No.10308509 >>10307866 Not him, but academia is rotten to the core.

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 22:07:46 2019 No.10308559

>>10307866
I'm actually considering doing an MBA after some years in industry. May look into one of these "top" tier schools just for the fuck of it. Graduate school is basically free for me and I have no debt from undergraduate studies.
>>10308410
Depends, if you work in reputable company in Pharma you can look forward to $100K.
>>10308509
Theres no jobs in academia anymore. I taught a few semesters already and honestly I rather not deal with students lol

>>	Tuba Jam Fri Jan 18 22:15:47 2019 No.10308582 >>10308559 >graduate school is basically free is that because your company pays for it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 22:31:18 2019 No.10308616 >>10308559 How old are you? >>10308509 Agreed but you can't escape academia.

Anonymous Fri Jan 18 23:09:40 2019 No.10308682
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>>10305251
Princeton math PhD - all you need is a BA in French, be in your 30s, take forever to finish, and have an attitude and chip on your shoulder the size of a star...(and a black female).

<--- PhD level math at Princeton.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 23:14:58 2019 No.10308691 >>10308682 boomerpost

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 23:15:18 2019 No.10308693 File: 135 KB, 1200x930, amy bishop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10306645 >a fucking murderer is listed as well Which one? Unabomber or the neurobio prof on the left that wiped out her department after tenure denial?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 23:33:10 2019 No.10308709 >>10306353 >If you aren't a biological race you can't be favourably discriminated This is your brain on leftism and Jewish apologetics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 18 23:35:16 2019 No.10308712 File: 907 KB, 2598x1228, piper2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10308682 FUNKY SUM U N K Y S U M

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 00:22:14 2019 No.10308773 >>10305252 None of these schools are over 15% black. Try again pol-tard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 00:25:14 2019 No.10308775 >>10308773 Yes but if you're a half-decent Black student you're basically guaranteed an offer to one of the Ivy League Schools. I can't remember the stats right now but pro-Black discrimination results in like +100 SAT points.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 00:25:57 2019 No.10308777 >>10308582 STEM PhD are typically funded in the United States. You get a tuition waiver and they pay you a stipend. Its alot of work though. >>10308616 25. I'll be done sometime when I'm 29 though.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 00:49:25 2019 No.10308807
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>>10308773
lel, somebody is unfamiliar with Piper Harron, i.e. >>10308682
and
>>10308712

Places roll out the red carpet if you are an URM even remotely qualified for STEM like the above. Her advisor was a Fields medalist FFS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 02:12:48 2019 No.10308926 >>10305677 well your ACT score isn't everything. But it is pretty important, so with a 36 that's pretty weird.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 02:35:06 2019 No.10308946 >>10308926 It's not that weird, dude I know had a perfect ACT with all the preppy recs and perfect high gpa and didn't get in

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 02:46:50 2019 No.10308962 >>10305251 High GPA and something that doesn't look copypasta

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 04:46:23 2019 No.10309085
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>>10305687
DUDE JUST WIN THE LOTTERY OF INTELLECTUAL GENETICS AND FENCE,DEBATE,SWIM,GET INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE, PLAY TRACK, WRESTLE, BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL,GYMNASTICS, CURE CANCER MAAAAN.

JUST

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 07:20:43 2019 No.10309241 >>10305251 >high IQ Those folks choose MIT or Caltech, with exception for mathematics prodigies, who choose their school based on the research conducted and courses available there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 07:39:23 2019 No.10309263 >>10308775 >Yes but if you're a half-decent Black student you're basically guaranteed an offer to one of the Ivy League Schools. No you still have to demonstrate excellence. They don't accept black students just for being black.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 07:44:15 2019 No.10309273 >>10309263 >No you still have to demonstrate excellence. They don't accept black students just for being black. The standards still aren't the same, JIDF.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 07:50:18 2019 No.10309283 >>10309263 >They don't accept black students just for being black. They quite literally do that, as evidenced by the ongoing legal case against the harvard admissions board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:04:27 2019 No.10309303 >>10309283 a black kid with a 2.3 gpa won't get accepted into harvard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:07:59 2019 No.10309308 >>10309303 a black kid with 3.2 would though, but a 4.0 white won't (unless jewish)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:19:00 2019 No.10309317 >>10305251 Sorry whiteboi these unv are reserved for pajeets and chinks only

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:21:46 2019 No.10309321 >>10305948 Or maybe whites are incompetent

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:36:44 2019 No.10309335 >>10306075 There are lots of many schools in the Deep South. Emory University, Georgia Tech, Tulane University, Rice University, etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:38:41 2019 No.10309340 >>10306075 There are many good schools in the Deep South. Emory University, Georgia Tech, Tulane University, Rice University, etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:51:11 2019 No.10309357 >>10305750 >>10305854 >>10305632 Anything not Berkeley/UCLA/Stanford is a reject school in CA? Do people have this attitude at the other schools that you're there just cause you were rejected by the other schools?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 08:57:17 2019 No.10309362 >>10309317 >reserved for pajeets and chinks only >Unis doing everything that can to keep the Asians out

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 09:14:59 2019 No.10309379 >>10308773 Yes, despite universities’ best efforts, blacks still can’t get proportional amount of students into Ivies. Without race based admissions, they would represent less than 5% of elite schools. Source: see public Cali unis and CalTech

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 09:16:02 2019 No.10309380 File: 66 KB, 1480x832, B3775989-2A99-4C5B-A0D3-B04E98591EFC.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305252 >>10305273 First posts, best posts

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 09:25:09 2019 No.10309397 >>10306109 Feels weird knowing that half of Ivy populations nowadays are under qualified minorities

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 10:08:03 2019 No.10309451

>>10305251
All of those unis tend to be more into "go-getters" and leaders. I assume that you're not that type if you're posting here.

Anyways, what other anons say about race is true. The most underrepresented ethnic group in Ivies are non-Jewish whites, who are excluded at a level incommenserate with their academic achievement. Those unis are nothing but Jewish hangouts, just like they were WASP hangouts 60 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 10:26:50 2019 No.10309483 >>10309451 >know a guy from harvard >okay guy but something's off, and he's kinda ugly >find out he's jewish >mfw

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 10:34:56 2019 No.10309501

>>10305251

If you are a white/asian male:

>3.9 GPA w/ all Honors+AP Classes
>1400 (Cornell) - >1500 Harvard SAT
>3 extra curricular activities
Atleast 1 athletic sport
Community Service
Atleast 1 Sport
Having a 1st degree relative who went to the school is huge too.

If you are a minority:

1300 SAT
>3.5 GPA
A couple extra curricular
Be poor and represent someone who is "coming from the bottom now they here" so that the school can make themselves look good.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 12:03:51 2019 No.10309698

>>10309501
>"coming from the bottom now they here"
i was born and raised in germany but my mother is ukrainian and my father is from pakistan. im actually coming from the bottom. my gpa "converted" would be about 3.5 too (smart but lazy kek, i also think german education is more difficult than standard american education but im not sure?). i also participated in many competitions (e.g. the international biology olympiad)

do you think it is worth a try to do the SAT Tests (and TOEFL) and apply for harvard?

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 12:22:39 2019 No.10309732

>>10309698
a lot of what is posted here is a meme
but for what its worth, its not gonna hurt to apply.
next year im going to a really good uni, but im gonna apply to Oxford. If I dont do well in the entrance exam and get rejected then oh well im still at a great uni.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 12:59:01 2019 No.10309792 >>10309698 Ins Gas mit dir du elendiger Schweineficker dein prophet fickt Kinder

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 14:01:31 2019 No.10309912 >>10305293 Imagine if you were a black mtf jewish/muslim lesbian. They'd practucally beg you to apply

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 18:29:55 2019 No.10310576 >>10305251 you have to be a jew, or very shabbos goyim -t. got into brown but didn't go because they're a bunch of filthy SJW feminist kikes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 18:59:18 2019 No.10310673 Cornell and Brown aren't real ivies, they are full of SJWs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 20:19:36 2019 No.10310914 >>10305329 pretty based, Im thinking of learning cherman and going to Humbolt for a masters

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 20:34:59 2019 No.10310955 I'm at stanford for my masters in engineering ama also half of those schools are shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 21:20:35 2019 No.10311096 >>10310955 Are these schools worth it or should I go to my normal state school for a math degree?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 21:22:03 2019 No.10311102 >>10311096 How much would you be paying for the schools, and do you want to go to grad school?

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 21:31:21 2019 No.10311130

>>10311102
Dad says he'll pay up to 40,000$ per year up to any bachelor's degree. So UC Berkeley and Rice.
What I want to know if is I'm going to get the same education elsewhere because I highly doubt my state school, ASU, is going to be a holy city of academics when they accept anyone with a pulse.
>grad school
Perhaps if I prove to be good enough for academia. My state school does offer the benefit of research during undergrad which I'm not sure is good for math majors.

I'm asking as a high school senior who missed a few years of high school due to several medical issues and who plans to transfer out-of-state.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 21:38:00 2019 No.10311144

>>10311130
Stanfordbro here (other guy isnt me). One thing you must note is that it's always worth taking on debt to get a big name degree in STEM.

I don't know what your grades are or your ECs or if you're anything other than a dull internet mongoloid so i can't say if you'll be better off at one of these schools. If you know you're going to go into academia/graduate school, schools like this can give you an insane amount of resources. Consider your priorities.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 22:07:28 2019 No.10311206

Lmao at this thread. Just because a school is elite does not mean said school has an elite program for your field of interest.

A bunch of idiot undergrad posters ITT for fuck's sake.

For example the greatest school I could possibly go to is University of Florida. Cuz I fucking love insects. I'll have to settle for 2nd best at UCR though.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 22:53:08 2019 No.10311279

>>10311144
>One thing you must note is that it's always worth taking on debt to get a big name degree in STEM.
No, it's really not always worth it. Most undergraduate programs are going to be similar. You'd be better off doing two years of community college, two years of a state college, and then applying to a graduate program based on which specific research group or professor you want to work with. Going to a big name may get you a significant salary boost for your first job or sneak you into a graduate program, but at extreme cost. The most valuable part of your undergraduate is internships, co-ops, undergraduate research, and clubs.

>>10311206
>For example the greatest school I could possibly go to is University of Florida. Cuz I fucking love insects. I'll have to settle for 2nd best at UCR though.
Yup, the best school to start a research career is going to be the one doing the research you plan on doing.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:04:42 2019 No.10311295
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>>10311279
>No, it's really not always worth it. Most undergraduate programs are going to be similar. You'd be better off doing two years of community college, two years of a state college, and then applying to a graduate program based on which specific research group or professor you want to work with. Going to a big name may get you a significant salary boost for your first job or sneak you into a graduate program, but at extreme cost. The most valuable part of your undergraduate is internships, co-ops, undergraduate research, and clubs.

I guarantee you the earning power you get from a Stanford degree in business or engineering over the equivalent state school degree offsets the ~100k of debt you'll accrue (which is not even a lot of money).

Feels good passing every resume screen you could think of. But keep rationalizing spending half your undergrad in a fucking community college. Try doing the research you need to get into in 2nd/3rd year at your shitty state school that doesn't have any funding for their labs.

t. Stanford grad student who's used his stanford u/g degree to get into spacex, nasa and google. I've literally made 7k USD/month as an intern in my junior year.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:07:01 2019 No.10311298

>>10311206
I forgot to say that the undergrad school you attend means very little. Research experience matters most as well as people who can vouch for you.

>>10311279
I worded my post poorly. I feel like people in this thread would choose an ivy if given the choice even if the ivy had a weaker program for their field of interest. That is the vibe I get from all this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:09:11 2019 No.10311302 >>10311295 lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:12:03 2019 No.10311309 >>10311295 #DESTROYED bogdanoff out

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:30:33 2019 No.10311331

>>10311295
>I guarantee you the earning power you get from a Stanford degree in business or engineering over the equivalent state school degree offsets the ~100k of debt you'll accrue (which is not even a lot of money).
100k USD may not be a lot of money, but it is a lot of debt. Interest is a bitch. Income tax doesn't help either.

>But keep rationalizing spending half your undergrad in a fucking community college.
Unfortunately, I wasted money by going to a state school for four years.

>I've literally made 7k USD/month as an intern in my junior year.
You made about the same as my first job out of college, but your cost of living is more than 4 times mine and I doubt interns receive any benefits.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:32:15 2019 No.10311335

>>10311298
>I worded my post poorly. I feel like people in this thread would choose an ivy if given the choice even if the ivy had a weaker program for their field of interest. That is the vibe I get from all this.
Well "choice" means a lot of things. You can go anywhere if you'll pay any price.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:40:03 2019 No.10311349
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Where were you all when the state school shill who couldn't get into anywhere better got #BTFO?

>>10311331
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-starting-salary-for-an-undergrad-CS-major-from-Stanford

https://www2.staffingindustry.com/row/Editorial/IT-Staffing-Report/Feb.-1-2018/Computer-science-majors-starting-salary-is-66-005?

100/(112-63) = 2. Two years to pay off the debt accrued by going to a better school. The debt you take on to literally be +50k from others straight out of university, EVERY FUCKING YEAR. Not to mention getting in anywhere you want to work.

Keep coping. Peasant.

>>10311335
>Well "choice" means a lot of things. You can go anywhere if you'll pay any price.

Yeah give me a call when you get into MIT cause you paid someone 100k (they pay you >200k to fund your grad degree)

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:42:24 2019 No.10311351

>>10311335
What are some examples of choice that you are alluding towards? You mean you can choose to go in to debt taking out loans for an ivy league? Or you can choose to study your ass off to gain the necessary grades for an ivy? Wtf are you talking about?
Idk why you quoted that specific part when my point is that a degree from an institution that is elite in a given field is more desirable than "Harvard" which has a shittier program for the same field.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:43:25 2019 No.10311353 >>10311349 >getting a job with a bachelor's LMAO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:45:41 2019 No.10311357 >>10311353 >he thinks people need to do a thesis in CS to become a good coder

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:48:07 2019 No.10311360

>>10311349
>100/(112-63) = 2. Two years to pay off the debt accrued by going to a better school. The debt you take on to literally be +50k from others straight out of university, EVERY FUCKING YEAR. Not to mention getting in anywhere you want to work.
You're forgetting about taxes and cost of living. The more you make, the more you give up. Californian students are more likely to work in an area with a higher cost of living, so Stanford graduates will have higher paying jobs by necessity. I'm sure the people at Google are making great money, but the gap isn't huge. It will take time to repay the debt.

Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:50:06 2019 No.10311362

>>10311351
>Wtf are you talking about?
All I meant is that "given the choice" doesn't make a lot of sense.

>my point is that a degree from an institution that is elite in a given field is more desirable than "Harvard" which has a shittier program for the same field.
Yes, I agree,

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 19 23:50:24 2019 No.10311363 >>10311360 What are you talking about faggot? You're paying a higher cost of living for a reason (AKA ITS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY TO LIVE) dumb fuck.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 00:03:10 2019 No.10311374

>>10311295
I'm the guy who asked you the original question not
>>10311279

>I guarantee you the earning power you get from a Standford degree--
Didn't know the elite thought highly of themselves, even on 4chan.

>But keep rationalizing spending half your undergrad in a fucking community college.
It sounds as if you don't care about the circumstances of every day people you regard as peasants. I am sorry that you take life for granted.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 00:05:11 2019 No.10311376

>>10311363
>You're paying a higher cost of living for a reason (AKA ITS ONE OF THE BEST PLACES IN THE COUNTRY TO LIVE) dumb fuck.
It costs more because it is one of the best places in the country for several things, but living there is not one of them. Goods and services that are identical to those in other parts of the country cost more. Property is far more expensive. I imagine traffic is pretty bad as well. I remember someone referring to Silicon Valley as a giant stretch of asphalt. With rare exception, actually living in most places feels the same. And in the end, you still lose the money, so you don't make that much more, so you still have to struggle to pay off the debt. If Stanford was such a great deal, don't you think they'd raise the tuition?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 00:15:16 2019 No.10311395 >>10305251 >IQ Nope. Admissions cares more about GPA then one-time test scores like IQ or SAT, since GPA is the average of how well you have done over 4 years rather than over 3 hours. Also, not /sci/ >>>/adv/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 06:00:04 2019 No.10311809 >>10305293 He's not wrong. >Aside from that just be urself You are on /sci/ You should know there is no such thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 06:03:12 2019 No.10311812 >>10306370 Except that 115 IQ has been debunked as it tested selective private school jews. Try again. There's a reason you can't find jews anywhere near Harvard levels at CalTech.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 06:54:00 2019 No.10311870

>>10311395
>
Nope. Admissions cares more about GPA then one-time test scores like IQ or SAT, since GPA is the average of how well you have done over 4 years rather than over 3 hours.
The SAT predicts academic success much better than GPA. This shouldn´t come as a surprise to anyone who actually understands what the SAT measures - the hint is in the name of the test.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 06:56:45 2019 No.10311875 File: 29 KB, 220x327, 220px-Rat_Race_poster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ITT

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:19:09 2019 No.10311919 >>10305597 This guy actually did alot of work. His CV is stacked you retards. That's just cherry picking his application

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 07:32:20 2019 No.10311940 Why are normies so obsessed with these schools? I grew up in Princeton and hung around with their students. They really did not impress much more than say students from Rutgers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 08:53:43 2019 No.10312045 >>10305251 Be retarded and get a 3.5 gpa at.a community college with a guaranteed admission agreement with Cornel. Or just got to one for graduate school. Easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:08:53 2019 No.10312065 >>10306645 benny boi is a known cereal kyler of the libtards

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:25:46 2019 No.10312104

1. GPA/Transcript: Needs to be excellent. Bad GPA = game over

2. SAT/ACT: For the SAT, most applicants have 1400+. Successful applicants have 1500+.
For the the SAT subject tests (optional for many schools, mandatory for some), you usually have to give 2 minimum and for Ivy applicants, they tend to score 750+/800 in each of their subject tests (800/800 in these tests are fairly common)

3. Extracurriculars: Hobbies, school involvement (clubs, activities), volunteer work, competitions, etc. Need to be decent, at minimum. What comes after the initial hurdle of grades and standardised test scores. The more meaningful, the better. Doing research, for example, is considered a big boost to your application. Things like winning at an International Olympiad significantly boost your chances. Really stellar extracurriculars can offset below-average scores in some cases.

4. Letters of Recommendations: From teachers, your admissions counsellor, and/or authority figures that know you well. Glowing letters of recommendation (one of the best, very innovative, hard working, will go on to do great things, etc) boost your application a lot by demonstrating that you really are what your application presents you as.

5. Essays: Your Common App essay and supplemental essays (if applicable), to demonstrate your personality and worldview. Also extremely important. They really don't want boring people with perfect grades, and they don't want meanies who are full of themselves either either. You have to be at least semi-decent at writing, and not come across as too pompous, someone that wouldn't mesh with other people. Protip: Most essays that these schools get are terrible, and if you can stand out in your essay, that becomes a factor that can give you the edge over another applicant with similar stats but weaker writing.

If any one of these is severely lacking, that significantly reduces your chances of admission. e.g: sounding like a complete douche in your essay = an auto-reject

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 09:34:22 2019 No.10312118

>>10312104
Also, if you're an international, your financial aid requirements also matter. If the school is need-aware, then if you request aid, that reduces your chances of admission and you need stronger stats to stand out. Some schools are very stingy with aid, like Columbia (asking for aid is pretty much an auto-reject for intl's applying there, at least for certain countries). Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are need-blind. i.e: doesn't matter if you need aid, they view your application the same way. Dartmouth is essentially need-blind for intl's, they're quite generous with aid. Penn seems to give plenty of aid but only for Early Decision applications. Don't know about Columbia or Brown.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:20:08 2019 No.10312698 >>10311395 >then

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:23:26 2019 No.10312713 >>10311875 Life is a rat race, friend

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:39:20 2019 No.10312761
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>>10305632

UCLA, UC Berkeley, and UT Austin are all more advanced in research than the Ivy League. Brown people are total libtards. Dartmouth is undergrad only. Sagan is dead so meh on Cornell. Harvard is near Boston so right away you know its full if entitled spoiled arrogant bastards.

The girls at UT and UCLA are amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:47:12 2019 No.10312784 >>10312761 If you think UCLA or UT Austin are on the same level or better than Harvard you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:50:14 2019 No.10312794 File: 84 KB, 1279x720, 6-landscape-gallery.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10312761 >blocks your path

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:51:50 2019 No.10312795 >>10312713 >Life is a rat race, friend Truest words

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 14:52:20 2019 No.10312796 >>10312795 Life is a rat race to the grave.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:10:38 2019 No.10313043 >>10305251 don't fall for the ivy league meme. go to the best school for your particular major https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/electrical-engineering-rankings

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>>10311870
>pic related

Like I said, GPA has more weight in college admissions than SAT.

I'm not pulling this out of my ass, I've known many people who work in admissions for a handful of different universities, and they all say the same thing, "GPA matters more than SAT."

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:37:23 2019 No.10313118 >>10305345 underrated post

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:44:16 2019 No.10313130 >>10312784 lmfao it depends retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:46:23 2019 No.10313137 >>10313043 >usnews top kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 16:58:23 2019 No.10313172 >>10312784 Depends on what. UT had a great quantum computer scientist. Scott A is probably better than anyone at Harvard in the same field

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:42:24 2019 No.10313316 >>10305251 Not it wasnt because of IQ, it was because I Jew

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 17:57:05 2019 No.10313382 >>10305252 >blaming blacks who make up 5% of ivy league students and not Jews who make up 30-40% of ivy league students and only get in through legacy status.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 18:00:20 2019 No.10313393
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the funniest part of this thread is that its just 200 replies of

>no you have to be black
>no you have to white and rich
>no you have to a chink
>no you have to be jewish
>no you have to have this much iq

top fucking kek. some of you are bitter as fuck you didn't get in whatever ivy you applied to and it shows.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 18:44:48 2019 No.10313500

>>10305251
A. 2 standard deviations above racial average (if white, Asian, or non-Muslim brown skin) + 3.9 unweighted GPA + (sports star or 3 extracurriculars) + maximum PSEO credits (or next best alternative your state offers)

B. 108 IQ + be black or Muslim + 3.0 GPA + 1 extracurricular

C. 1 standard deviation above racial average + child of tenured professor or major donor + 3.25 GPA + 2 extracurriculars

You will have a >50% chance of getting into at least one Ivy League if A or B applies and you apply to every Ivy Leage school. C for the particular school your parent works at.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:11:14 2019 No.10313576 >>10313393 but seriously, jews are overrepresented because of nepotism, and non-whites (excluding asians) are overrepresented because of AA.

Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:16:55 2019 No.10313589

>>10305251
>only American universities
Those are good, but just shows that you're closed minded
Also, if you want to be admitted at any university, just do this
>set a goal you want to achieve
>if it's only money, then you've fucked up
>it must be something you really want
>go for it
>you're fucked if ignore your goal even for a bit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:18:48 2019 No.10313596 >>10312784 I said research, stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 20 19:23:12 2019 No.10313613 >>10313393 Welcome to /sci/, my friend

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:41:46 2019 No.10314336 >>10313137 and what ranking would you use?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:53:35 2019 No.10314368 >>10305251 Be a part of the longnose tribe

Anonymous Mon Jan 21 00:57:50 2019 No.10314377

>>10312761
Lol at believing this
>>10313043
No, go to an Ivy league school don’t be fucking stupid.
>>10313382
Jews don’t make up 30-40% of ivy leagues and Jewish math and science attainments match their admissions rates, Unz is fucking retarded and miscalculated badly and was taken to task for it by people who understand statistical analysis. The legacy portion of jewish and white admissions is almost negligible for the Ivy league

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 01:04:23 2019 No.10314394 >>10314377 >No, go to an Ivy league school don’t be fucking stupid. that's not much of an argument. if you're doing EE for example you'd be better off at MIT or Stanford than fucking Brown or any of those

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 02:22:56 2019 No.10314531 >>10305579 >Having connections like legacies, "charitable donations", or unique achievements "almost inevitably contingent on connections", is how you get in. I was just going to say nepotism, but this is a much more satisfying answer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:45:23 2019 No.10314635 Score well on admissions? I got my MBA from HBS but I scored a 760 on the GMAT.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 03:46:04 2019 No.10314636 File: 158 KB, 501x504, 56Gassed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10306366 Ohoh..

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 04:05:23 2019 No.10314656 File: 341 KB, 704x906, ssss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10306366 Ron Unz is truly the best researcher on the subject. >>10306370 this Jewish IQ meme needs to end, if anything its been on a steep downward trend for a long time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 17:05:15 2019 No.10316241 >>10305251 What does the Hebrew writing on Yale's logo mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 21 19:27:55 2019 No.10316664 I go to cornell Just be smart and do extra curriculars and not be a boring as fuck person

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 02:05:30 2019 No.10317426 File: 13 KB, 387x309, 1527100666997.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305251 You study hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 08:37:26 2019 No.10317936 >>10305252 all these schools are over 60% white don't blame niggers because you can't break the top 60% of white applicants

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:34:35 2019 No.10318227

>>10305579
>Having connections like legacies

Legacy is more important than anything, even grades and clubs. I went to a very good private school and knew several Jewish kids who got into top tier ivies with mediocre GPA's and SAT's due to legacy. There are even studies that show that the incoming class of Harvard was made up of 30% legacy students, and other ivies have similar numbers.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/06/harvards-incoming-class-is-one-third-legacy.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:47:54 2019 No.10318250 File: 38 KB, 336x344, Mix_jpg%252C+girotondo+di+tutto+il+mondo[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10305273 Racism is not acceptable here, this is a board of peace and understanding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:51:07 2019 No.10318262 >>10305251 have rich and influential parents

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 11:54:36 2019 No.10318273 >>10318262 Choose your parents wisely, you silly goy.

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:04:59 2019 No.10318284

>>10318250
There is "racism", and then there is "reality". Reality is: there is an objectively verifiable and well studied gap between the average white IQ and the average US black IQ of 1 full standard deviation (ie 15 points). US blacks have an average IQ of 85, while whites have an average of 100. US blacks have, on average, 20-25% European ancestry... which explains the fact that native sub-Saharan Africans have an average IQ of 72. That's right, an AVERAGE IQ of 72. That's not just from one study either, it's from dozens... and middle to upper class Africans were studied... as well as native Africans who were adopted and raised in western countries.
Also important, the MCPH1 gene (among many others such as ASPM and CENPJ) is non-existent among native sub-Saharan African populations... and has been shown to be responsible for brain growth and neuronal organization. Only whites and Asians have those genes.

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:08:19 2019 No.10318290

>>10318284
Racism would be: "I don't like blacks because they look different". Reality would be: "people with ancestry from different geographic areas have different phenotypes and genotypes resulting from many generations apart from each other... and the brain is an organ whos function is the result of physical differences.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:14:12 2019 No.10318300 >>10318284 >>10318290 BAD GOYS

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:18:08 2019 No.10318306

>>10318284
Anyone curious about more info should start with the APA task force report "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns" and the paper "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" which was signed by over 50 experts in the field. From there, if you'd like to look at specific studies, check out the work of J. Philippe Rushton, Arthur Jensen, Richard Lynn, and Robert Gordon from Johns Hopkins... among others.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:25:23 2019 No.10318321 >>10318306 I feel sleepy, I think I'm just going to bed. Don't you feel sleepy too, goy.. I mean guys?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 12:35:58 2019 No.10318347 >>10318321 THEY'RE USING GOY GAS ON US! Don't fall for it, boys... we'll all wake up with no memory of human biodiversity, and only a strong hunger for bagels and lox.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 17:14:20 2019 No.10318884 High SAT and/or Act scores, good grades, good recommendations, extracurriculars and a decent personal essay. Didn't get into Cornell since I only got the SAT down

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 17:44:54 2019 No.10318931 >>10305251 Two options: >be rich as fuck >study a lot and get perfect grades in hs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 18:01:06 2019 No.10318961 >>10318347 fuck dude i could use a good sesame with cream cheese and 1 slice of nova

Anonymous Tue Jan 22 18:30:21 2019 No.10319028

>>10305251
I'm not even kidding when I say... why would you want to?
More and more people are avoiding expensive universities and self-learning. Universities are pure signaling. Check out Bryan Caplan's "Case Against Education".
My story:
I went to Harvey Mudd... which, if you've never heard of it... is an extremely prestigious college. I only went there two years, and then left... but I then took all the courses I would have taken in my major for free, online via MIT OpenCourseWare, Stanford courses, and the Harvey Mudd site (which I still had student ID access to, it's not currently available to non students)... and I just put that on my resume. I now have a job with a human factors consultancy that requires a masters degree... which I have the equivalent of.

Just do it. Take the courses online for free, and put that on your resume. People are doing it, I'm telling you. Employers will respect your balls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 18:31:53 2019 No.10319030 >>10319028 >I now have a job with a human factors consultancy bait. must be.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 18:32:28 2019 No.10319033 >>10319028 The tl;dr of my story: I have a job that resuires a masters degree. I technically don't even have a bachelors degree. I dropped out after two years and self-learned up to a masters equivalent via online courses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 19:26:21 2019 No.10319147 >>10319028 What did you think of Mudd?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 20:11:56 2019 No.10319246 >>10319028 don't tell me you got the job at the consultancy by just applying online with no other experience? Also, why did you leave? Show me some successful people (linkedin or anywhere else) who self-taught themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 20:44:33 2019 No.10319299 >>10306523 >Universities won't pay that much attention to your essay if you're not in a make-or-break situation based high school drop-out

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 20:45:00 2019 No.10319300 >>10305251 Money

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 20:55:44 2019 No.10319318 >>10316241 Urim and the Thummim

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 22 22:41:35 2019 No.10319531 >>10305251 Being a young workaholic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 00:11:13 2019 No.10319687 >>10317936 (((White))) you are either lying or stupid

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 00:27:48 2019 No.10319721

>>10305251
>Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter Black Lives Matter
But unironically.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 00:53:02 2019 No.10319776 >>10305345 best engineering in ivy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 01:29:00 2019 No.10319842 File: 35 KB, 465x473, 473153924_182b7a84ab_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10319687 >fail to break the top 60% of whites >w-well i'm in m-my own tiny special persecuted category so that's why my shit grades aren't good enough

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 03:35:02 2019 No.10319997 >>10319299 It's true. Your grades and SAT scores matter more than your essay

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 06:02:18 2019 No.10320145

>>10319687
>a sub-human pathological liar from pol saying someone else is “lying or stupid”
What’s with all the literal neonazi shills on this site? Where the fuck is the moderation? People just let their site get ruined by far right shills? Yes I wonder if there’s a reason every other site on the internet permabans them on site. It’s almost like they aren’t human and lower the level of discourse to that of a monkey cage at a zoo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 06:09:18 2019 No.10320152 File: 926 KB, 734x748, afraid merchant.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10320145

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 06:13:44 2019 No.10320154 >>10305251 For Yale you go in for their forestry program and switch. For Penn you do their evening/extension school.

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 06:27:24 2019 No.10320161

>>10320152
lmao jews are more intelligent than you and disproportionately represented by a massive margin among the extremely wealthy

they aren't afraid of anythin you best go find a nice jewish woman to fuck, she might find your low iq caveman ways attractive like a woman can find a big dog attractive

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 09:03:55 2019 No.10320368 >>10319997 but to say that top universities won't pay attention to your essay unless you're "make-it-or-break-it" is retarded you cock-gargling faggot

Anonymous Wed Jan 23 10:38:09 2019 No.10320536

>>10320368

That is their "holistic review process". If you are tied with other applicants or you are a borderline case then they use your secondary characteristics (such as essay, extracurricular activities, achievements, etc) to see whether or not they should admit you

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 14:44:09 2019 No.10321101 >>10320536 >he keeps posting just give it a rest, Jamal

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:00:16 2019 No.10321264 >>10321101 no

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:06:39 2019 No.10321276 Is it even worth going to UCB for anything besides engineering and CS? Is it even worth going to Ivy schools for anything besides law and economics?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 16:12:48 2019 No.10321286 >>10321276 Harvard, for the name, will always be worth it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 18:44:50 2019 No.10321690 >>10320368 Is it that serious?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 23 21:08:53 2019 No.10322027 >>10321286 Maybe 10 years ago. Now Harvard admit students based on skin color instead of merits.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 01:11:17 2019 No.10322668 File: 1.00 MB, 2000x2000, 1443370078997.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10320152

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