/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10303420]

What do I do guys? I just got my rejection letter from Cambridge for CompSci & Maths and I want to die.

[Anonymous No.10303426]

>>10303420
Wipe my tears away and go to Oxford

[Anonymous No.10303429]

>>10303426
Oxford's even harder to get into though

[Anonymous No.10303453]

>>10303420
here's a secret: your undergrad doesn't matter. go to a mid-tier uni, get top grades, go to cambridge for postgrad.
i know it sucks now, but it's way better than getting average results and not getting into postgrad.

[Anonymous No.10303474]

study at any uni for the moment. then take MSc of Phd at cambridge or oxford.

I have a professor who took his Phd at Oxford but bachelor and Masters at London uni, but he said that Oxford and Cambridge are famous for the undergraduate programs. I dont think ppl are aware of that but as long as you say I graduated from it, you look fancy.

So dont worry good things always come at last.
I am studying bachelor at the moment but I am considering to take MSc in Oxford

[Anonymous No.10303477]

>>10303453
No, it really does matter because undergrads with the same exact grades as you will have more research, better training, likely come from wealthier families and could afford to take more unnecessary but beneficial additive courses and will have recc's from elite undergrad instructors whereas you will have recc's from nobodies from State flagships or worse. Its a huge advantage to go to Stanford for your biomed bachelors compared to even the University of Washington.

[Anonymous No.10303498]

>>10303477
>undergrads with the same exact grades as you
If you can get 80+ at Cambridge you can get 95 at a state school, and make the Dean's merit list, and get awards. Also, supervisors WANT students, and if you walk in saying you're interested in what they do they'll help you get in.

[Anonymous No.10303499]

>>10303420
Attachment leads to suffering. You are not a Cambridge degree so stop self-identifying with it. Let go and surrender. It is great that you were denied as it presents an obstacle from which you can learn and grow. Improve and try again.

[Anonymous No.10303540]

>>10303499
Thank you anon, very wise. Anyone here go to Southampton uni?

[Anonymous No.10303569]

>>10303453
Bad advice.

t. someone who fell for this meme and now works construction

[Anonymous No.10303631]

>>10303569
That is 100% your fault

[Anonymous No.10303635]

>>10303420
Maybe you can build muscle unlike me, so you still have something to live for at least. Go to a random uni, get a first and then apply for tripos part III

[Anonymous No.10303669]

>>10303635
Literrally everyone can build muscles
You either dont eat 150g protein a day or dont do 5x5 squats, bench presses, etc 3 times a week

[Anonymous No.10303672]

>>10303669
I did exactly that for years, except for the 150g which is to be replaced with 200g. No muscle was built despite going very close to failure at the 5th rep of the 5th set

[Anonymous No.10303675]

>>10303420
Wipe away the tears and go to MIT.

[Anonymous No.10303688]

>>10303569
sorry, i forgot to say you actually have to do well

[Anonymous No.10303691]

>>10303631
See you at 4am on the job site after you graduate. :^)

[Anonymous No.10303695]

>>10303688
I did so well that employers didn't believe I actually did the things that I did. Hence the part where I work in construction.

[Anonymous No.10303701]

>>10303695
you know the uni can give you verified transcripts right?

[Anonymous No.10303702]

>>10303701
I mean my research and extracurriculars. Nobody gives a fuck about what courses you took at a state school.

[Anonymous No.10303705]

>>10303702
didn't you write a thesis or paper for your research? put it online and link to it in your CV mate.

[Anonymous No.10303715]

>>10303705
I did. The assumption was that I plagiarized it or something because people from my school shouldn't be producing stuff like this.

[Tuba Jam No.10303722]

>>10303477
>UWashington only has nobody professors
(you)
Your other arguments have merit, but thinking that U of Washington is a mediocre university shows how little you know about higher ed.
>>10303498
>If you can get 80+ at Cambridge you can get 95 at a state school
Maybe if you look at pure difficulty, but another aspect is the type of students you study and associate with. The better they are, the better you will do.
>>10303499
BASED
>>10303695
did you consider leaving some of them out?

[Anonymous No.10303728]

>>10303426
You can't apply to both at the same time.

[Anonymous No.10303730]

>>10303691
That will be 9am, and in my office, little blue collar man.
Wait, make it 11am, I'm getting a new company car, have to break it in first.

[Anonymous No.10303740]

>>10303672
u also need a surplus of calories, this means you need to count them

[Anonymous No.10303741]

>tfw 23 y/o with no GCSE's
>got into Durham

[Anonymous No.10303800]

>>10303722
>but another aspect is the type of students you study and associate with.
yeah that's another reason Cambridge would only pick the top students, but there's good students everywhere.

[Anonymous No.10303863]

Glad I am not an Anglo whose entire academic career depends on getting accepted into one of those few """good""" universities based on their performance in fucking highschool.

[Anonymous No.10303979]

>>10303740
yeah well I was on a surplus, proof is I gained fat, just not muscle

[Anonymous No.10304205]

>>10303800
I'm really sore about it, am predicted 5A*s and an EPQ A*, so like 5.5A*s but they still didn't want me

[Anonymous No.10304208]

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for Stanford to get back to me about their aero/astro program tomorrow

>tfw black so I have a better chance
Feels good?

[Anonymous No.10304217]

Well hopefully you still have a chance at equivalent schools?

>>10304208
yeah feels good not knowing if you got in for merit or diversity

[Anonymous No.10304219]

>>10304208
Good luck man, hopefully you don't even need the diversity quota to get in

[Anonymous No.10304221]

>>10303453
>here's a secret: where you get your degree doesn't matter
WROOOOONGG

It's like the ONLY thing that matters. Employers would rather take an average graduate from a top university than take the time to look for the good ones from the lower universities.

[Anonymous No.10304255]

>>10304217
>>10304219
3.6/4, 167Q, internships at spacex, JPL and two robotics startups, 1yr of undergrad robotics research with first author pub being reviewed

The program is easier to get into than mit or Caltech because they don't offer funding and its not PhD secure

[Anonymous No.10304263]

>>10304255
>162Q

[Anonymous No.10304267]

>>10304263
?

[Anonymous No.10304295]

>>10303715
>not telling them you have the tism

[Anonymous No.10304298]

>>10303715
Wtf, how many jobs did you apply for, what field?

[Anonymous No.10304300]

>>10303420
Take a gap year and then reapply

[Anonymous No.10304301]

>>10304255
>black
>167 IQ
IQ is meaningless anyway, I have a verified IQ of near 140.

[Anonymous No.10304314]

>>10304301
167Q is my score on the graduate entrance exam

[Anonymous No.10304316]

>>10304301
>IQ is meaningless anyway
Modern leftish philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftish philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e., failed, inferior). The leftist’s feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual’s ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is “inferior” it is not his fault, but society’s, because he has not been brought up properly.

[Anonymous No.10304339]

>>10303669
>>10303672
OK, neither of you lift - you don't need 6 gorillion grams of protein. I eat a single egg and a bunch of oatmeal slathered in butter for breakfast, two slices buttered bread with another egg and some kind of fruit/veg for lunch, and a larger dinner with some kind of meat, bunch of bread, vegetables, and wine. Doesn't sound like a lot of protein, but as long as I get a surplus of calories in vs out in the form of extra carbs/fat, I make progress.

[Anonymous No.10304344]

>>10303420
Become an autodidact. Fuck formal education.

[Anonymous No.10304345]

>>10304339
I know most people don't need them, but what you don't understand is that nothing works for me. I have tried the whole range between 100-200. It seems like those who make progress are those with the right genetics rather than the right diet or exercise program. Else I wouldn't be having such a hard time figuring this out. I just try things that people usually don't need to do because I have already exhausted all normal possibilities. They just don't work. So you can make progress with this but I can't

[Anonymous No.10304362]

>>10303420
Apply at South Harmon

[Anonymous No.10304366]

>>10304344
Do you know any Math or Physics autodidacts that ended up in a related decent job?

[Anonymous No.10304371]

>>10303477
this is mostly wrong

[Anonymous No.10304379]

>>10304208
good luck bro you got this shit

I am elated. I just got an official invitation to Student Recruitment Days at UCR. Does anyone know how these things tend to work? I'm pretty much in as long as I don't show up drunk right?

[Anonymous No.10304384]

>>10304366
Hm I don't know. There were however a lot of autodidacts who made serious contributions to math and physics. If it is a viable nowadays I couldn't say but I'd think that companies care more for a degree than actual ability sadly.

[Anonymous No.10304454]

>>10304205
A levels are piss easy, sorry buddy. Especially stem ones. I assume you took some sort of test then discussed your answers in an interview? They want someone who either did a ridiculous amount of questions easily (international student/turbo autist brit) or someone who did bits of questions correctly and responds well when prodded in the right direction for a solution (regular brit, this is where I fucked up).
Just go to top 10 russell group then apply for masters there if you can prove yourself.

[Anonymous No.10304810]

>>10304316
I'm just saying high IQ isn't that much smarter, I know high IQ people and their human nature can devastate anything their intelligence granted them.

[Anonymous No.10304860]

>>10304371
t. no sources or justification for why it's wrong

[Anonymous No.10304922]

>>10304208
Here

I GOT IN BOYS. Funding TBD!!!

[Anonymous No.10305020]

>>10303540
If you do, tell Dylan Maguire he's a fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.10305084]

>>10304221
>WROOOOONGG
Jesus christ you fuckers love to pounce. I'm talking about getting into graduate schools, I'm not talking about employers. Employers won't even look at your grades.

[Anonymous No.10305101]

You'd probably have more fun elsewhere. At Cambridge you just work all the time

t. did maths there

[Anonymous No.10305144]

>>10304344
But what if you like not being unemployed?

[Anonymous No.10305167]

>>10305144
If a black family makes 200k a year, they must be doing something right.
The virgin poorfag white male genius, the dumb black rich chad.

Besides most rich blacks are sports players. So it's not a fair study. Pick blacks who are educated and you'll see them score higher on the SAT.

[Anonymous No.10305169]

>>10303420
Go to Oxbridge

[Anonymous No.10305172]

>>10305167
Some rich families have no salary earners whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.10305187]

>>10305144
>Bell curve exists look! Most blacks are shit!
>Btw look at this study on SAT scores

Why doesn't your post show us the effects of the bell curve? There are high IQ blacks, why aren't they on that image? Why do they show low IQ rich blacks instead?
Contradiction

[Anonymous No.10305204]

>>10303722
>Maybe if you look at pure difficulty, but another aspect is the type of students you study and associate with. The better they are, the better you will do.
This actually matters a lot. I am from low tier college and I would have wasted time with those affirmative action students.

[Anonymous No.10305213]

>>10304810
Anon you are confusing academics with IQ. The difference between above average intelligence and genius is a genius. I'd wager that geniuses are more rare in society than one might expect. For example, my dad is an 120 brainlet and I am considered 130 "very gifted" (which should be the cutoff for genius but that's beside the point). The difference is night and day because he doesn't like to read, doesn't like intellectual conversation, thinks that money is the source of all happiness, etc al., yet he creams me in the field of mathematics (particularly because I don't give a shit about math). It's further proof that the "Intelligence Quotient" needs to have additional weight to its tests such that the Verbal IQ and Quant IQ don't count against you if you exceeded in one but not the other.

[Anonymous No.10305223]

>>10305213
Your dad is right about everything.

[Anonymous No.10305243]

>>10305223
If you think so, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10305254]

>>10305243
Money is the cause of all most if not all problems of humanity. You must have enough so you think it's not a problem. You also don't have the drive to make more. It makes sense your dad sees you wasting your potential. What a waste.

[Anonymous No.10305281]

>>10305254
>Money is the cause of all most if not all problems of humanity.
That's socialist logic my friend. It's like thinking people don't kill people just because guns kill people.
>You must have enough so you think it's not a problem.
True. Is that a pinge of envy I smell?
>You also don't have the drive to make more
If you think that I don't have drive, you are sadly mistaken. I do have ambition just not toward wealth. I'm only sorry your philosophy towards wealth is misguided.
>It makes sense your dad sees you wasting your potential. What a waste.
Little Bourgeoisie say what?

Finally I said in context that "money is the source of all happiness" (which I disagree with). By saying your retard babble about money, you in effect agree with me. Goodbye.

[Anonymous No.10305287]

>>10305281
I have enough too but unlike you I listen to my dad. So I'm pushing myself to make money. It's not easy but yeah.
You're wasting your potential.
Sort yourself out.

[Anonymous No.10305307]

>>10303477
You're a retard if you think UW is bad for biomed. David Baker is like a god of biochemistry.

[Anonymous No.10305330]

>>10303420
Can you appeal their decision? I didn't get in my program of choice at first try, but after appeal in which I pointed out how all of my perceived shortcomings were only apparent, as my knowledge in them stems from extracullicular sources, I was admitted.

[Anonymous No.10305331]

>>10305307
Biochemistry is such a bad field...

[Anonymous No.10305514]

>>10303420

Who gives a rats ass where you do your undergrad work, just go to a state public university.

[Anonymous No.10305554]

>>10305331
You're entitled to your [wrong] opinion. Regardless, the Baker lab does way more than biochemistry. Biology would be far more behind schedule if not for his work in computational and structural biology.

The original point is still this: that guy is a retard for thinking going to UW for biomed is looked down upon.

[Tuba Jam No.10305567]

>>10305514
UMontana is good, r-right?

[Anonymous No.10306150]

>>10304255
Are you going for your masters?

[Anonymous No.10306809]

>>10303420
I got rejected from cambridge for maths 2 years ago and it hurt for a while but I don't give much of a fuck now. I knew I did a pretty bad exam in the interview and my grandma had literally died 20 days earlier so it was probably easier for me to accept though.

[Anonymous No.10306872]

>>10305567
>UMontana is good, r-right?

No idea, but then again who cares, just go get your degree, and do your Graduate work at a "prestigious" school.

Q: What high school did Einstein go to?
A: who cares

Q: Where did Einstein do his undergraduate at
A: who cares

[Anonymous No.10306897]

>>10303420
I got in to Cambridge for natural sciences, had the worst time of my life; left midway through my second year and am now going to UOB for theoretical physics. Before I actually got there (and for the first term and a bit), I thought it would be the best thing ever and that it'd be like an academic paradise.
Maybe you dodged a bullet, anon

[Anonymous No.10306926]

>>10305144
Start a startup

[Anonymous No.10306934]

>>10306897
why did you hate Cambridge?

[Anonymous No.10306940]

>>10303420
Get a real job like a roughneck or a mechanic.
Pencil pushers will never amount to more than biocalculators for their corporate overlords.
Be a free man.

[Anonymous No.10306956]

>>10306934
They put a lot of unnecessary stress on just to be 'elite'; so they cover a fucktonne of topics very quickly (in Natural Sciences, I did phys, materials science, compsci and the harder maths course (you pick one of two)); each one could be a single course at any other uni.
By the end of the first year, you forget everything so it's all pointless, aside from the meme of 'Giving you opportunities to consider subjects that you might not have heard of'. The lecturers and supervisors (The supervision system at Cambridge is how you'll do most of your learning), are for the most part pretty good, but depending on the kind of person you are, you might struggle to get along with your peers, especially if they're the elitist type (or worse, feminazis).

[Anonymous No.10306962]

>>10306940
twitch.tv
Don't ever come back

[Anonymous No.10306967]

>>10306956
So in effect, I ended up hating my subject, hating everyone around me, and hating myself for not being able to pull constant all-nighters to keep up with their batshit insane study schedule. The only way to avoid the latter is to have no social life, which might seem easy enough to the r9k types, but when you're away from home for considerable periods, you really need to be around people to stay sane

[Anonymous No.10308059]

Go to Imperial you pleb. Oxford and Cambridge are not for you.

[Anonymous No.10308180]

>>10308059
>Go to Imperial
He would have to live in London. Imagine the smell!

[Anonymous No.10308262]

>>10303420
If it makes you feel better, I got into a top school and am doing poorly. Frankly it feels like my admission was a mistake and I kind of hate myself for not being able to handle what I worked so hard for to be honest.

[Anonymous No.10308320]

>>10303728
undergrad detected
back to your social, pleb

[Anonymous No.10308330]

>>10303540
no lmao im not a brainlet

[Anonymous No.10308338]

>>10303979
have you tried not being a woman?

get test, faggot

[Anonymous No.10309254]

>>10308338
I have lots of facial and chest hair, along with normal-sized male reproductive system. Could it still be the case that I lack test? Or Klinefelters? I fear that there's more to it and that it can't be fixed, like lack of satellite cells or what have you. The only option left would be muscle surgery. I hate myself I want to die

[Anonymous No.10309265]

>OH NOES TURNS OUT I'M NO A 99.999999999999999999999% PERCENTILE GENIUS
>WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH MY LIFE NOW!
This is a problem without our hero worship culture. We ignore the whole of humanity and we put all the limelight on a couple of exceptional geniuses and make it seem as if you have to be one of them to do anything. Else you should resign yourself to being a loser.

[Anonymous No.10309269]

>>10309265
It's not the culture, it's the job market dude (and the kikes)

[Anonymous No.10309318]

Best UK CompSci unis apart from Oxbridge and Imperial for undergrad?
Is it just subjective between Russel groups at that point?

[Anonymous No.10309324]

>>10309318
>is it just subjective between Russell groups at that point?
No. There are some old Russell group unis that have become stale and rely on their reputation (that they can no longer uphold) to carry them forward.
Birmingham, Liverpool, that sort of thing.

Unis need to always be on their toes, if they become arrogant then they will fail.

[Anonymous No.10309328]

>>10309324
Where would you place Edinburgh in terms of resting on laurels or staying on toes?

[Anonymous No.10309331]

>>10309328
I have no idea. I've only been to one uni, but the impression I get from my friends that got to Birmingham and Liverpool is that they're stuck in the mud.

The best proxy for that is research output. If a uni has more innovative, cutting-edge, high-profile researchers, that sort of mindset will filter down to the course level, since they're the ones directing and teaching the courses.

Edinburgh is ranked highly for research, but low for student satisfaction. So you'll be getting a great education, but people won't hold your hand through it.

[Anonymous No.10309334]

>>10303477
Except the majority of Oxford and cambridge students are from state schools due to quotas.

[Anonymous No.10309361]

>>10309254
Get a blood test and a testosterone test. It's probably under 50 bucks and could change your life.

[Anonymous No.10309367]

>>10309331
Excellent. Thanks Anon.

[Anonymous No.10309371]

>>10309361
I would if I could just go to a lab and give $50 in a no-question-asked kind of thing, but I need a prescription where I live (cucked France) and nobody will give me one just because "I can't build muscle" (it's not considered a problem there). Maybe they will if I pretend I'm a tranny though lmao.

[Anonymous No.10309400]

>>10309371
You can get the test online. They send you a box with the required items to extract blood from yourself and a prepaid stamp to send it to their lab. They then post your results online. Pretty easy, takes under a week.

[Anonymous No.10310680]

>>10306967
So Cambridge was too high IQ for you? You weren't as smart as your peers so they had to study less than you to keep up so they could maintain a normal life and you couldn't.