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only way i learn is through immense repetition. but even then i dont actually understand anything.


this is regarldess of subjects. the only thing I intuitive would understand is ports used in electronics

only reason I could solve math. was that I made one of my friends. that was really good in math

solve the hardest most complicated questions then I copied the way he solved it and applied it to everything else.


In short I dont actually learn anything. I just make a copy of something and then I can do it but I never actually understand how anything works

>> No.10300694

>>10300620
same bitch you aint special

>> No.10300699

>>10300694
whats your strategy for learning. i have hit a hard wall

>> No.10300783

>>10300620
Give an example. What don't you understand that you think you should understand? Try to pick the most basic one.

>> No.10300790

>>10300620
>only way i learn is through immense repetition
like everybody else

>> No.10300888

>>10300620

i've heard this about many things and in many different fields, its also very useful for exams because the examinator will have a similar thought process: always consider when and if what you have in front of you stops working and when it works without any restrictions
knowing that will make you understand and remember the material much better without rote memorization

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10300951

>>10300783
even if I can do extremly complex math or physics
and get right answers I dont really understand how it works. its like I cant make sense of the most plane thing.


I cant figure out anything on my own per say.

If someone show me how its done once I can replicate and build on it. but I dont get it.

same with coding. same with strategy.
I feel like in a great deal that I dont understand much of what am doing.

and am wondering if this is normal. or am just fucking stupid as shit

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10300954

>>10300620
no, it all makes sense, you just got to think about it

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10300961

>>10300954
actually it does not. the only things I trully understand is Squating and electrisety and electronic circuts. everything else is "am i a ratatard

>> No.10300967

>>10300888

i think you have to spend a lot of time thinking about something to really build a good mental model of it. you can follow a proof and verify all its steps, and be reasonably convinced that it's correct.

you won't really understand or even remember it unless you take some time to mull it over. if it seems vague when you try to recall it, you need to give it more thought.

>> No.10300969

>>10300967
>you won't really

missing a "however" before that sentence.

>> No.10300978

>>10300967
hmm.everythin math related seems vague. physics not soo much.

computers am ok at i think.

will take this to heart. maybe i didnt enjoy math as much as electronics.

thanks. gave me something to think about

>> No.10300995

>>10300978

it's all vague until you understand it. you shouldn't be frustrated if your mind does not instantly comprehend something. i assume this is some sort of avoidance response learned in school.

learning just doesn't work that way. some people seem to instantly understand things they see in class, but they don't *really* understand it. learning takes time.

>> No.10301003

some people seem to have a more fine-grained mental "filter" than others. i can't learn something without considering its significance, its relation to what i already know, its "shape" and structure. is it signal or is it noise?

>> No.10301008

>>10301003

maybe i'm just slow though.

>> No.10301010

You are in a formulaic or linguistic mode of learning. You learn a recipe for how to do something and apply the recipe. You need a get into a generative mode of learning. In other words learn how to make the recipes in the first place.

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10301024

>>10301010
hmm. I learn consepts and ideas extremly fast. struggle with the details to be frank not just a bit its like its own beast.

but to learn something is not just the concept and the ideas. its the details as well they are just as important.

its probably that details feels hard to understand. but the concepts are simple to grasp.

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10301035

>>10301024
but understanding concept and ideas. is only half.

>the devil is in the details.

something i have painfull learned

>> No.10301154

I feel like I'm hearing myself talking, op. I'm an electrical engineer and often times I feel the same, I grasp the concept of how something works in general terms very quickly but have to really work hard on the details. Now about the generation of ideas: I struggled with this process for some time in the past and still do from time to time but I'm gradually learning how to think in this "other mode". From my experience you really have to consciously change the way you see the given problem and try to apply different knowledge you acquired in the past, often using only mental association and try to come up with a different approach to solution evaluating all the pros and cons. This way you start to "understand" how each given system works. I am not sure if this approach can help with abstract problems like pure mathematics, but in engineering it's applicable IMO. I don't know if this made a whole lot of sense but it's my two cents

>> No.10301175

>>10301154
thid made alot of sens. dang feel like am talking to myself