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Is CS a meme or a legitimately interesting and useful field of study

>> No.10300308

Its a meme field for pakis and brainlets at this point

Math or ECE are far more interesting and useful

>> No.10300330

>>10300308
tf is ece

>> No.10300334

>>10300330
Electrical and Computer Engineering, nigger?

>> No.10300346

>>10300301
>Is CS a meme or a legitimately interesting and useful field of study
Why don't you try it and find out?

>> No.10300347

>>10300301
Meme. It's the least math intensive STEM major.

>> No.10300352

>>10300301
It is a useful field, but if you're seriously studying, you should also double major in mathematics, as computer science is largely applied mathematics.
Otherwise, you're just a glorified software engineer, who doesn't understand the applied mathematics aspect to the fullest degree (of which you should).

>> No.10300360

>>10300301
SEL is a legitimately interesting anime.

CS is fun, not as interesting as some areas of math imo but bashing others' fields is a brainlet thing to do.

>> No.10300363

>>10300352
Or just major in math, you are better off inverting your time in non trivial classes instead of cs meme classes since you can self study all the cs you'll need in a few weeks.

>> No.10300366

>>10300363
Apart from you don't learn about things like data structure in mathematics.
You might as well just major in both.

>> No.10300368
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10300368

>>10300301

>> No.10300371

>>10300301
a mediocre computer scientist is worth a lot more then a mediocre mathematician in my opinion

>> No.10300372

>>10300366
Data structures are trivial. Literally just read a book on them over a couple of days and implement some of them as practice.

>> No.10300374

>>10300301
CS by itself is pretty boring but it's useful knowledge to other stem related problems. I suggest you to major in something like Math or Physics and learn CS by yourself to apply it to whatever discipline you choose.

>> No.10300377

>>10300371
Stop, you're going to make fags like >>10300368
mad
same goes for mediocre physicists as well, and let's admit, nobody of us is genius tier and if you are, it doesn't really matter which degree you do because because you're going to contribute to the field either way.
at least as a mediocre CSlet you have a chance to contribute to something new instead of spending your life trying to understand the 25 interpretations of quantum physics and how entanglement ACTUALLY works

>> No.10300381
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>>10300301
Driving and Swimming are useful and fun but you would have to be retarded to major in them. Same thing for CS.

>> No.10300386

>>10300381
>how to become a kickass computer scientist: learn everything but at home instead of classes
this goes for math and any abstract science retard

>> No.10300387

>>10300372
>I don't want BSc for the same amount of time, as one.
Wat?

>> No.10300392

>>10300381
>Learns CS, without getting a certificate for doing so that increases your worth.
Wat?

>> No.10300393

>>10300366
Because it's stupidly easy to self learn it. Heck most of CS is, for example EE majors in their DSP courses learn about algorithms in one class what CS majors learn in an entire course lmao.

>> No.10300396

>>10300386
But its really easy for CS.

>> No.10300397

>>10300393 see >>10300387 or >>10300392.

>> No.10300398

>>10300393
it's almost like they have different depth into the subject
I wanna see you try to explain what a Hilbert tree is, salty EE fag
also reminder that we will make more money with less effort

>> No.10300400

>>10300396
it's not unless you only go as deep as your average pajeet. by that logic math is also easy because you don't go deeper than differential equations lmao

>> No.10300411

>>10300397
In america, college costs money. Getting a trivial 2nd BS would cost 100K and totally not worth it.

>> No.10300413

>>10300397
The thing is CS by itself is useless, every interesting application that requires CS knowledge would also need other non-trivial skill like knowing about EE. If you major in CS you're only capacitated to do code monkey work.

>> No.10300416

>>10300411
>He's not even intelligent enough to get a scholarship.
Sad.

>> No.10300417

>>10300413
>If you major in CS you're only capacitated to do code monkey work.
This is how I know you can no idea what CS is.

>> No.10300436

>>10300416
Don't apply to second degrees.

>> No.10300439
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>>10300417
People are able to look up what courses you take.

>> No.10300441

>>10300436
Then you're still getting 2 for the price of 1.

>> No.10300442

>>10300439
>t. I study CS at a shit college

>> No.10300444

>>10300441
Or you could just get the first one free since a B in CSC isn't worth the paper its printed on

>> No.10300449

>>10300442
50% of cs majors look like that.

>> No.10300450

>>10300444
Fucking hell, /sci/ is so full of so many morons.

>> No.10300453

>>10300449
There's a reason it is a competitive field.

>> No.10300454

>>10300450
>Wah, why isn't /sci/ circle jerking my shitty degree

>> No.10300456

>>10300450
>He needs entire courses to learn data strucutres, big o and divide and conquer algorithms
kek

>> No.10300458

>>10300454
Because it's a very profitable degree, if you achieve highly and from a prestigious college.
This /sci/ penchant for unfounded contrarianism is purely odious.

>> No.10300460

>>10300454
coping eefags will try everything to redeem their degree while working at McDonald's, including calling degrees that are more profitable and useful shit

>> No.10300462

>>10300456
I've tracked your IP, chroot'd your firewall and am currently deleting $.

>> No.10300463

>>10300458
>Because it's a very profitable degree, if you achieve highly and from a prestigious college.
You don't belong in /sci/
>>>/biz/

>> No.10300468

>>10300456
>these are the only datastructures that exist.
this is your average /sci/fags perception of cs.
he doesn't even know what a Hilbert r tree is, because he didn't even have hilbert curves in his shitty we degree yet. (and never will)

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>>10300463
Lmao, a moment ago you were saying it wasn't profitable. Oh, what? You had to change your argument? Why? Because you lost?! How sad.
Fuck off.

>> No.10300472

>>10300463
what is your major and what are you studying for, anon? be honest.

>> No.10300473

>>10300330
Early childhood education

>> No.10300478

>>10300458
>like mommy always told me, whenever someone says something about me that I don't like, it's because they are jealous of me.
>all my life, all my teachers have been so jelly

>> No.10300480

>>10300301
The fuck do you cunts even mean by CS? The usual course in the U.S, that is presumably low-quality in curriculum and students alike? Because if it's anything else then you're just gossiping about names.

>> No.10300484

>>10300458
0/10 b8

>> No.10300486

>>10300480
they mean American CS i.e. software engineering.

>> No.10300490

>>10300478
Imagine actually having to resort to this retort, because you're too retarded for a non-facile recourse.

>> No.10300494

>>10300484 see >>10300471, and eat a dick.

>> No.10300496

>>10300308
>Math
Enjoy being a teacher.
>ECE
>willingly choosing to be a jack of all trades
Terrible choices desu. Plus EE is shit all around. It's quite interesting but unemployable tier.

CS stands above both majors.
To answer the OP, let's put it this way: success breeds jealousy. CS is at the forefront of technology with exciting fields such as computer vision, data mining, and machine learning, etc. It's true you don't need a CS degree to enter these fields. A statistician can do ML research or a EE can work on computer vision but a CS degree will lead to all of them and will give a more in-depth understanding of these technologies among many other technologies and fields that are too numerous to name. No study is more interesting or useful than CS for the modern age. Again success breeds jealousy. See all the /sci/ fags seething and attempting to attack cs because they blame the study for their shitty life choices.

>>10300371
Let's be honest. A mediocre computer scientist is worth a lot more than a top tier mathematician.
It's hard to deny.

>> No.10300500

>>10300471
>CS
>Web Developer
>EE
>Software Developer

See, CS majors only get the most boring front end shit jobs that are the first to be out sourced to India.

>> No.10300505

>>10300500
>I don't understand what entry level means.
Ah nah, they should just totally allow you to work on extremely expensive and sensitive projects... just because.
Fuck off.

>> No.10300506

>>10300494
Wait until you realize how much money Women Studies majors make as Chief Diversity Officers.

>> No.10300508

>>10300496
>A mediocre computer scientist is worth a lot more than a top tier mathematician.
>Mathematician is busy with his pure mathematics, doesn't realize the applications if could have.
>Computer scientists comes along and finds this research, realizes the applications and makes use of it.

>> No.10300509

>>10300506
Not even one thread can go buy without some Sargonite trash getting posted, can it?

>> No.10300511

>>10300471
>IT

You just proved that salary says nothing about your degree. Everyone knows IT monkeys are retarded.

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10300519

>>10300509
>outing yourself

>> No.10300529
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10300529

>>10300508

>> No.10300530

>>10300508
>computer scientist raking in cash
>mathematician forced to give $10 blowjobs to survive

>> No.10300533
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>>10300511
Wrong again.

>> No.10300535

>>10300460
see >>10300471

EE get the same job as CS majors. In fact, all stem majors can get CS jobs.

>> No.10300536

>>10300529
>learned cs before cs majors were even a thing
you forgot the most important part which makes your entire argument retarded

>> No.10300537

>>10300529
>I don't know what an outlier is.

>>10300530
>Implying this is bad.
They need to be put in their place.

>> No.10300540

>>10300533
>economics in 5th place
graph discarded

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>>10300540
I have a feeling they know more about stats than you.

>> No.10300549

>>10300545
>tfw only get As for physics with bad intuition
How do I cope with being a brainlet?

>> No.10300550

>>10300308
>engineering better than anything
Brainlet engineer detected

>> No.10300552

>>10300549
Git gud.

>> No.10300553

>>10300550
Next you'll tell us that mathematicians and physicists can do work requiring professional engineer accreditation

>> No.10300554

>>10300537
>They need to be put in their place.
kek did I hit a little too close to home?
Wipe that semen off your face, kid.

>> No.10300561

>>10300535
>he thinks CS is web dev
top kek you keep thinking that, kid. Oh what will we ever do if you guys take all the web dev and IT jobs lol

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>>10300561
Can't you read? See >>10300471

CS majors overwhelmingly do web dev. It's the other STEM majors that do the non-meme coding jobs.

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10300578

>>10300537

>> No.10300590

>>10300573
what is this asterisk for lmao, every decent C's degree has everything described there
or is this murifat cs once again?

>> No.10300594

>>10300578
>you need a degree to do mathematics
no you don't, actually even less than cs because cs still has a practical element in form of advanced computers and systems to which you need access too.
also, stop posting retarded screencaps.

>> No.10300596

>>10300578
>he thinks Dijkstra's algorithm is something advanced and complicated you need to have studied math for to conceive
at least admit you're retarded.

>> No.10300602

>>10300590
cs courses don't count as math.

>> No.10300621

>>10300573
>he thinks that curriculum is rare
Literally the bare minimum at any decent school.
>CS majors overwhelmingly do web dev.
pffffffttttt ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wait wait you're serious
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH NO NO NO NO
You keep thinking that kid while you teach freshman algebra in high school.
Whatever makes you sleep better at night. I'll enjoy the numerous career opportunities ;)

>> No.10300626

>>10300621
I love how mad /sci/fags get over CS, whilst we're busy revolutionizing the world.

>> No.10300635

>>10300626
literally the only criticism they can make is against cs curriculums, not CS itself, which is easily fixed by going to a decent uni. This leaves them with shitflinging and desperation because they need to feel superior to someone else and humanities isn't enough.

>> No.10300639

>>10300635
Don't get me wrong, I love mathematics. But, CS is what makes all of that pure math useful.

>> No.10300670

>>10300635
>which is easily fixed by going to a decent uni.
I've yet to see proof that the meme degree curriculums they make up with actually exist.
They're so mad they have to make shit up so they can sleep at night

>> No.10300695

>>10300670
are you talking about cs degrees or fags with screencaps of "this is what a cs curriculum should be like"?

>> No.10300858

>>10300670
>I've yet to see proof that the meme degree curriculums they make up with actually exist.
Hint: they never post primary source, but you have to trust their word or else you're just a butthurt shill
...
Am I talking about /sci/ or /pol/?

>> No.10300909

>>10300301
is that screen capture from lain chan?

>> No.10301121

>>10300439
I really hope that you don't actually think that's what the average CS degree looks like, anon.
At most real universities CS majors will finish the calc 1-3 suite on their third semester, and then they usually take some formal logic course.

>> No.10301331

>>10300858
>yfw you realize the /pol/tards who mindlessly flock to IQ threads are the same /sci/tards who make CS hate threads
It all makes sense now...

>> No.10301346
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10301346

>>10300301
Question from a casual poster. Is there any merit to an online CS degree program?

>> No.10301358

>>10300301

It's an interesting field that overlaps with philosophy and mathematics. If you like logic and algorithms, then you'll like CS.

>> No.10301366

>>10301346
example of what you're talking about?

>> No.10301369

>>10301346
I got bought a online bootcamp from Hyperion dev for my birthday. Just started but honestly so far looks like it's no better than a textbook. The code reviews could come useful i guess

>> No.10301374

>>10300480
>The usual course in the U.S, that is presumably low-quality in curriculum and students alike

The best CS schools in the world (Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, Caltech, and others) are located in the U.S. faggot

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>>10300621
>>10300561
>>10300460

Look at your own post nigger. You owned yourself.

>> No.10301381

>>10301374
And many of those schools don't have a CS program but an EECS or CSE program because CS by itself is a meme.

>> No.10301385

>>10300670
>I've yet to see proof that the meme degree curriculums they make up with actually exist.

Look up what CS is like at USF

>> No.10301386

>>10301366
A bachelors from SNHU, St. Leos or similar. I really know nothing of the field and what is considered legitimate in terms of a magical piece of paper.

>> No.10301398

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-YceIjXHLY

>> No.10301404

>>10301398
>>10301386

>> No.10301422

>>10300635
>literally the only criticism they can make is against cs curriculums

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE CRITICIZING. Braindead retards keep bringing up salaries when that is irrelevant to the discussion. /sci/ is where you discuss academics, /biz/ is where you discuss business and money.

>which is easily fixed by going to a decent uni

Which only exist in a few international schools.

>> No.10301481

>>10300398
Based.

>> No.10301536

I'm in Uni studying CS right now, what should I do to be at least employable? Pls help me

>> No.10301572

>>10301536
Change your major to literally anything else
Make projects and put them up on github
Make a blog and document the problems you ran into in your projects and how you went about solving them
Apply for internships

>> No.10301587

>>10301572
>Change your major to literally anything else

Do I really have to?
>Make projects and put them up on github
>Make a blog and document the problems you ran into in your projects and how you went about solving them
>Apply for internships

Can't I do the following while still studying CS? I can't afford to switch majors right now

>> No.10301648

>>10301587
>Do I really have to?
Do you want to learn anything in college? Otherwise just drop out.