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/sci/pill me on GMOs

https://youtu.be/fuN09KENCHA
>Today in the United States, by the simple acts of feeding ourselves, we are unwittingly participating in the largest experiment ever conducted on human beings. Each of us unknowingly consumes genetically engineered food on a daily basis. The risks and effects to our health and the environment are largely unknown. Yet more and more studies are being conducted around the world, which only provide even more reason for concern. We are the oblivious guinea pigs for wide-scale experimentation of modern biotechnology. GMO OMG tells the story of a fathers discovery of GMOs in relationship to his 3 young children and the world around him. We still have time to heal the planet, feed the world, and live sustainably. But we have to start now!

>> No.10291194

>>10291187
GMOs are perfectly fine, your stomach acid and enzymes denature the fuck of it. Not only that, but genetic information doesn't pass between your gut and your bloodstream.

>> No.10291207

>>10291187
>>10291194
Oh, not only that, but the majority of food is cooked, which would also denature it also.

>> No.10291215

Almost all evidence sugest that there is no health issues. What is true is that we don't know much about the impact.

>> No.10291217

>>10291215
Environment al impact*

>> No.10291230

It doesn't make a difference. There's just a lot of people mad that companies like Monsanto would control world food supply and look at any and every reason to discredit their product. One lady I talked to while writing an essay on it showed me a graph of use of GMOs and how it coincided with another graph of autistic kids. stupid bitch lol. Same type of people who are anti vax or let sympathy control their political bias

>> No.10291273

>>10291187
>/sci/pill me on GMOs

Safe and much needed. The anti-GMO crowd is as insane as the anti-global warming crowd.

They insist that the "majority consensus" scientist are being controlled and they only listen to a few wild crackpots and their "studies" that show the exact opposite of every reviewed and approved research paper.

>> No.10291345

>>10291187
No, we don't have time to live sustainably until we kill half of people

>> No.10291359

>>10291187
Boycott them as you shouldn't be able to patent food.

>> No.10291392

>>10291359
>Boycott them as you shouldn't be able to patent food.

FUCK YOU ROYALLY!
People spend years developing new crops, they deserve to profit from their work, you are NOT required to use their crops, but if you do then you better pay up!

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This entire thread.

>> No.10291409

>>10291392
>they deserve

No one deserves anything, child.

>> No.10291416

>>10291409
>No one deserves anything, child.

Indeed, but if someone is going to spend years developing a fast growing, delicious, nutritious new variety of apple, then they DO deserve to be rewarded for their "invention" and that is what patents are for.

>> No.10291561

>>10291187
>The risks and effects to our health and the environment are largely unknown.
This is a lie.

>Yet more and more studies are being conducted around the world, which only provide even more reason for concern.
Lie.

>> No.10291573

Yes GMO is perfectly safe consume, consume.
Global warming is real and anti-GMO people are just lunatics. We should come up with a form of tax so that forces people to be eco-friendly

>> No.10291592

>>10291573
Correct.

/thread

>> No.10291595

>>10291592
You'll get a nice raise this Monday we must spread the truth

>> No.10291615

>>10291573
>Yes GMO is perfectly safe consume,
Yes.
>consume.
No.
> anti-GMO people are just lunatics
5 cents have been deposited into your account.

>> No.10291635

>>10291615
What do you mean shlomo? GMOs are safe to eat you down need organic a cow can live for 75 years.

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>>10291359
>>10291392
The patent issue isn't that big of a deal in the long run - there are plenty of companies selling seeds, and anyone who wants heritage seeds that breed true (as opposed to the hybrid varieties that do not, GMO or not) can easily order them.

And patents themselves are 20 years, which seems fair to me. Long enough for companies to make a profit after paying for R&D, but not so long that they can stifle the market. You can buy the first-gen GMO basedbeans & corn seeds off patent now, though most farmers buy the newer versions since the improvements are worth the extra cost. Seed companies have to keep coming up with better plants, and not charge too much extra for them, or farmers would just switch to the older off-patent ones.

>> No.10292386

tfw no gmo in europe ;(

>> No.10292403

>>10291409
Whether or not somebody deserves something is up to personal morals. Rationally, there would be no incentive for the development of GMO crops if you can't profit from it.

>> No.10292546

>>10292403
Well some GMO products might be developed by non-profits for charitable purposes, i.e. that golden rice that produces Vitamin A. For the most part you are correct though; improved plant varieties, whether done with GMO or conventional breeding are usually done with profit in mind.

>> No.10292566

>>10292386
Interestingly, the heavy restrictions on GMOs in Europe end up providing strong evidence that GMO crops are safe for human consumption. The agricultural ministries of various European countries have a huge incentive to show that GMOs are dangerous, to make their countries farms more competitive on the global market. And they have the ability to fund the studies necessary to show this danger. That they haven't been able to find any dangers by now means GMOs are most likely safe.

Note that being safe to eat doesn't mean no environmental impact though. For example it seems likely that round-up ready basedbeans & corn combined with well, round-up, have done a number on monarch butterflies. Not by poisoning them directly, but by killing the milkweed plant they eat.

>> No.10292927

>>10291416
>he doesn't understand that failed attempts play a major role in improving the technology and are a job equally well done to a successful attempt.

Scientists deserve to be rewarded for doing good science. Patents and "muh market" aren't the only way to value and remunerate research.

MBAs need to go and stay go.