Alien apocalypse: Can any civilization make it through climate change?

[Anonymous No.10271588]

http://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/astrobiology-alien-apocalypse-can-any-civilization-make-it-through-climate-change-322232/

>In the face of climate change, deforestation and biodiversity loss, creating a sustainable version of civilization is one of humanity’s most urgent tasks. But when confronting this immense challenge, we rarely ask what may be the most pressing question of all: How do we know if sustainability is even possible? Astronomers have inventoried a sizable share of the universe’s stars, galaxies, comets, and black holes. But are planets with sustainable civilizations also something the universe contains? Or does every civilization that may have arisen in the cosmos last only a few centuries before it falls to the climate change it triggers?

>Astrophysicist Adam Frank, a professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Rochester, is part of a group of researchers who have taken the first steps to answer these questions. In a new study published in the journal Astrobiology, the group—including Frank, Jonathan Carroll-Nellenback, a senior computational scientist at Rochester, Marina Alberti of the University of Washington, and Axel Kleidon of the Max Planck Institute for Biogeochemistry—addresses these questions from an “astrobiological” perspective.

>“Astrobiology is the study of life and its possibilities in a planetary context,” says Frank, who is also author of the new book Light of the Stars: Alien Worlds and the Fate of the Earth, which draws on this study. “That includes ‘exo-civilizations’ or what we usually call aliens.”

>Frank and his colleagues point out that discussions about climate change rarely take place in this broader context—one that considers the probability that this is not the first time in cosmic history that a planet and its biosphere have evolved into something like what we’ve created on Earth.

[Anonymous No.10271625]

Some are proposing climate change as a great filter but I don't buy it. Worst case we would have billions dead but not all, even medieval society was mobile enough to move with a changing landscape and retain a decent percentage (10%+) of the population.

[Anonymous No.10271635]

Superintelligent AI will kill us all before climate change does.

[Anonymous No.10271637]

>>10271625
it brought down rome
why wouldn't you buy it?

[Anonymous No.10271639]

>>10271588
>Model of civilization modeled after an instance that collapsed due to climate change shows that civilizations collapse due to climate change
I cannot believe they got funding for this

[Anonymous No.10271643]

The most sustainable civilization is one that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.10271647]

>>10271643
Sometimes I wonder what's even the point of having civilization if it can't even get us off this god forsaken planet.

[Anonymous No.10271655]

the absolute state of climate change alarmism

[Anonymous No.10271658]

>>10271655
>c-climate change w-won't destroy our civilization. i m-mean it!

[Anonymous No.10271659]

>>10271637
Because in case you didn't notice the collapse of Rome didn't lead to human extinction.

[Anonymous No.10271670]

>>10271659
No one is talking about that. Only about the destruction of civilization. Which is exactly what happened in the case of Rome. Are you a proponent of having our civilization collapse? Enjoy starving to death, tard.

[Anonymous No.10271686]

>>10271670
Our civilization is global, there are no parthians or sassanids binding huge amount of money, potential and manpower at our borders, no huns or langobards threatening to invade, no antonine plague is waiting to destroy our internal trade network and the last serious war is 80 years back, contrary to 120 years near constant civil war that brought Rome down. Climate change was only one aspect of why Rome fell, it was its combination with outside factors that brought them down.

[Anonymous No.10271688]

>>10271670
>if I don't think it's a fermi paradox great filter then I'm ok with it
Interesting leap of "logic" there fella. I don't want drastic climate change but I also don't think it'll have a lasting effect on technological development long term (millennia).

[Anonymous No.10271696]

>>10271658
>some countries have 0C average temperature while others have 20C
>but a change of 3C over the course of decades will collapse civilitation

[Anonymous No.10271698]

>>10271686
This is an outdated theory. Climate change was the main cause, and war was one aspect of why it fell. Get eudumacted.

[Anonymous No.10271723]

>>10271698
Are you retarded or do you just lack basic reading comprehension? How do you think your climate change manifested? In external pressure on its borders and internal turmoil leading to civil war and consequently to the collapse of trade networks. That the Fall of Rome was multi-causal is not outdated at all. The symptoms that brought Rome down cannot manifest nowadays, balance of nuclear power and modern medicine work.

[Anonymous No.10271727]

>>10271723
So you admit climate change was the cause. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10271734]

>>10271727
No, I explained you how it manifested, I never claimed that it was the sole cause for the wars or collapse of trade. Or is the death of 10% of the population due to a disease climate change for you?

[Anonymous No.10271738]

>>10271696
>I don't understand how averages work

[Anonymous No.10271740]

>>10271734
>Or is the death of 10% of the population due to a disease climate change for you?

[Anonymous No.10271758]

>>10271740
>Applying modern patterns of epidemic propagation to ancient times
You have no idea of history, just kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10271761]

>>10271670
Do you believe that if you give the largest oil company in the world to save the world that's what it's going to do? Because that's the proposal currently for saving the world, or "your civilization."
The sky is always falling unless you are paying tribute to your master, retard.

[Anonymous No.10271762]

>>10271740
i searched and found this
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240549/
>However, the histories of three such diseases--malaria, yellow fever, and dengue--reveal that climate has rarely been the principal determinant of their prevalence or range; human activities and their impact on local ecology have generally been much more significant. It is therefore inappropriate to use climate-based models to predict future prevalence.

>>10271738
>slightly hotter summers will collapse civilization

[Anonymous No.10271765]

>>10271670
>General Electric and Exxon Mobile have been spamming for decades that they need my taxpayer money to save the world from global warming, pay them now and make laws so others aren't allowed to compete with these largest oil companies in the world! My protectors!

[Anonymous No.10271767]

>>10271734
Not him but people die, people get diseases, and climate's change.
One of the first things you learn as a child is to accept that unfortunate things can occur.

[Anonymous No.10271777]

>>10271761
I don't know but I believe we likely have a serious problem on our hands. The vast majority of climate scientists are probably more credible than you are.

[Anonymous No.10271781]

>>10271777
>climate scientists
This is a misnomer since climate "scientists" do not use the scientific method.

[Anonymous No.10271783]

>>10271698
It's weird how in the last fifteen years history has been rewritten to match anthropogenic climate change doomsday propaganda.

[Anonymous No.10271785]

>>10271781
So now you're going to tell me climate research is pseudoscience like psychology and phrenology, right?

[Anonymous No.10271797]

>>10271777
The vast majority of climate scientists are employed by the largest energy and oil corporations in the world.
Climate shills constantly talk about how they are fighting big oil when in reality their campaigns are funded by it. Useful idiots.
GE makes 20 billion a year on climate change initiatives. It's a conflict of interest for the past twenty years. GE owns MSNBC, another conflict of interest and what allowed the "climate change" movement to explode coincidentally after the largest corporation in the world started injecting money into it.

[Anonymous No.10271808]

>>10271785
It doesn't follow the scientific method, so yes. It's much more funded and backed by large corporations and corrupt people who are in power than phrenology though, since the people in power profit off of climate change.
If you do some searches of GE from the year 1995-2005, you'll be able to spot the global climate change propaganda initiative being adopted by BIG OIL, and only after that happened has it become such a huge college student activism thing.
Because guess where the largest corps in the world have influence? At every learning institution, and at every mainstream media branch, since only a few megacorps (GE is one) OWN the mainstream media.

[Anonymous No.10271812]

>>10271797
Some random person writing long screeds on the internet will never be more credible than scientists and the main stream media. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.10271822]

>>10271785
Google CEO sponsored and hosted the main climate event in 2002 that started its popularization.
General Electric and Exxon Mobile pledged hundreds of millions to begin the campaign.
Stanford provided the platform.
Google's search results regarding climate change are heavily and demonstratably doctored to ignore your search query. If you ask Google for evidence that puts anthropogenic significance into a skeptical like, it always links you to "skeptical science," which is specifically tailored to "debunk" climate deniers.

It's an intentional agenda and you're a retard if you think the sky is falling. The world is only getting worse as the megacorps get better at mass mind control.

[Anonymous No.10271827]

>>10271812
You're delusional to trust the mainstream media and my posts aren't random. Can you even read what you are typing?
>the mainstream media and "scientists" that you don't know, but said media tells you about, are a gospel.
You're religious.

[Anonymous No.10271839]

>>10271812
>I come to this board to have discussions so that I can claim nothing said here is worth reading.
So you're a paid shill, or really stupid?

[Anonymous No.10271861]

>>10271637
Rome was brought down by persians and germanic tribes catching up technologically. Rome in fact never had any real dangers to its existence after whiping carthage out so it shouldn't be held to such high standards really.

[Anonymous No.10271878]

>>10271839
Climate change denialism is never worth reading, no.

[Anonymous No.10271892]

>>10271740
>Al Gore
Stop posting this cunt, he does more harm than good.

[Anonymous No.10271920]

>>10271839
>>I come to this board to have discussions so that I can claim nothing said here is worth reading.
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.10273954]

>>10271861
Rome was a shithole until they accepted Jesus, and then it became shithole after the schism, and then it is becoming a worse shithole now. Soon Jesus will come 10 years tops

[Anonymous No.10273969]

>>10271625
There were no nuclear weapons back then.

Today if climate change ruins economy and society we will have a nuclear war.

Yes it won't completely wipe out humanity but our civilization will fall apart.

[Anonymous No.10273970]

>>10271686
>there are no parthians or sassanids binding huge amount of money, potential and manpower at our borders, no huns or langobards threatening to invade

We have muslims instead.

[Anonymous No.10273977]

>>10271588
If multicellular life can survive the KT impact and the great dying, and early man could survive in Europe through an ice age then I am convinced highly adaptable modern man can survive climet change.

[Anonymous No.10274008]

it's fucking snowing again outside so I'm up for climate change and in fact shall be looking for a much thirstier truck this year. maybe something with 6 wheel drive for my daily.

[Anonymous No.10274336]

>>10273969
>Yes it won't completely wipe out humanity but our civilization will fall apart.
and that's a good thing, sweetie.

we need a reset so the western world get their balls back.

[Anonymous No.10274788]

>>10271686
>the last serious war is 80 years back
The present culture/terror war is pretty serious and spans the globe. And the West is spending billions on it while China executes an estimated 3000 every year.

[Anonymous No.10274792]

>>10271698
So after two \millennia of historical analyses we have ONLY NOW determined climate was to blame. Really. Sounds more like historical revisionism.

[Anonymous No.10274947]

>>10271625
All of the easy-to-mine natural resources have already been consumed. Easy-to-mine as in a 21st century context - with medieval technology easy-to-mine becomes impossible to mine. Welcome to your neolithic post-collapse society.

[Anonymous No.10274951]

>>10271688
Jason Kenney is a fat retarded religious fanatic homosexual.

[Anonymous No.10275360]

>>10274008
>I'm a huge faggot please rape my face

[Anonymous No.10275373]

>>10275360
>>I'm a huge faggot please rape my face
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.10275422]

>>10275373
you, you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.10275453]

>>10271625
Human caused climate change not likely, super volcano or asteroids or Coronal Mass Ejection that cause the climate to change could be one.
I find extremely polarized political opinions and human greed to be far likely great filter.

[Anonymous No.10275629]

>>10274947
cities don't magically disapear if the society that built them collapses
the mines of the second age will be the ex-cities, factories and foundries that are all made out of steel and house other metals

[Anonymous No.10275650]

>>10271698
Did you actually read Harper's paper? Rome was at its peak when the weather was the warmest, then went into decline as the temperature dropped.

[Anonymous No.10275699]

>>10271740
>Open borders
>Government-mandated migrant quotas for the third world
>Government-funded program to, not only move migrants to Western countries, but also to give them welfare which attracts even more economic migrants
>No "Ellis Island" to separate the healthy from those with infectious diseases
>"HURR DERP EBOLA OUTBREAKS IN EU AND US SO IT MUST BE GLOBAL WAR...I MEANT CLIMATE CHA...I MEANT CLIMATE CHAOS...I MEANT WEATHER FOSSIL FUELS MAN-BAD"

Yes, CO2 is a greenhouse gas and humans are putting a shit-ton more of it in the atmosphere and it's science denial to say otherwise but it's just as anti-science to be hysterical and blame everything bad in the world on CO2 emissions or believe unfounded Chicken-Little "OMGS WE IS DOOMMED!!!" bullshit predictions.

[Anonymous No.10275767]

>>10275699
It's a serious threat. Pretending it isn't is foolish. So is doing nothing to address it.

[Anonymous No.10275777]

>>10275699
There are no alternative energy sources and most of industry and the political power structures are doing nothing substantial to reverse it. The predictions aren’t unfounded by definition.

[Anonymous No.10275858]

>>10275767
>>10275777
Yeah! Go after those heretics for deviating from sacred scripture.

[Anonymous No.10275878]

>>10275858

I always get a chuckle when morons use informal arguments that could just as validly be used against themselves...

some kind of "that's what you are but what am I" meta-fallacy....

[Anonymous No.10275883]

>>10271588
There are only so many fossil fuels we can burn. If we burned all of the economically exploitable fossil fuel, we will probably not go beyond 1000ppm carbon in the atmosphere, which is a lot more than today, but much less than what used to be normal for earth (2000-4000ppm). Earth will be much hotter, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. There is no reason why Earth should have permanently frozen polar caps for example.

Now the phase of transition will come with crisis and potentially war, but that will not whipe us out. Since most of the earth's land mass lies up north, there will actually be a net gain for humanity in usable land, plus you get a lot of new, shorter seaways across the north pole.

[Anonymous No.10276429]

>>10275878
>informal arguments that could just as validly be used against themselves

Wrong again, faggot. >>10275699 is more even-handed and isn't the narrow-minded absolutist that you are. Pointing out that not every problem revolves around your appointed boogieman whether it's satan or global warming is much more logical than being a whiny faggot that go on an epic bitchfest if someone so much as suggest that just one of the effects contributed to global warming, just one, was exaggerated or caused by something else.

That's why the comparison between christfags and ecofags is valid. Even some of them non-ironically anthropomorphize the earth and naming it Gaia and acting as though the planet itself is a living, thinking being. That is a religion.

[Anonymous No.10276966]

>>10276429
retard alert

Ecosystems and species are being destroyed. There is no undoing this damage except by waiting a very long time, meaning millions of years. Global warming threatens to increase this destruction of biological resources by permanently altering habitat temperature. Maintaining the status quo is a religion: the assumed desirability of anthropocentrism.

[Anonymous No.10277177]

>>10276429
Some people believe in nothing but their own hedonistic consumerism as well as the "human race". What religion is that?

Those people have more in common with christfags than they do with ecofags.

[Anonymous No.10277182]

>>10271588
>We can't make it therefore other civilizations can't make it
Wow I fucking love science

[Anonymous No.10277647]

>>10276966
>Ecosystems and species are being destroyed. There is no undoing this damage except by waiting a very long time, meaning millions of years.

You have yet to prove that whatever you're ranting about has anything to with AGW, you inbred mongoloid. Even when >>10271762 provided evidence from peer-review literature proving that global warming has fuck all to do with disease outbreaks, you were still ranting about global warming causing global pandemics (>>10275767).

>Global warming threatens to increase this destruction of biological resources by permanently altering habitat temperature.

You are to climate science what Deepak Chopra is to quantum physics only more hysterical.

You haven't proved your claimed that global warming is responsible for EVERYTHING bad that has ever happened and ever will happen. So, all other claims based on that initial claim is invalid.

>Maintaining the status quo is a religion: the assumed desirability of anthropocentrism.

Jesus Christ that's the dumbest shit you've said so far. The Industrial Revolution that you hate so much has been around for only 200 out of 200,000 years of human existence. The status quo has been subsistence & struggling to survive, 1/3 of the population dying before age 5 with the rest dying before they reach 50, famines, diseases, ignorance (try being educated or enlightened when every day is a struggle to not starve to death) and other sources of hardship.

And as I pointed out, there are people who actually believe the planet is our mother and that it's sentient and has some sort of spiritual woo power. That fits the very Webster dictionary definition of a religion. Instead, you claim not wanting to live in a third world shithole is, somehow, a religion.

>>10277177
And fuck you too for making the same bullshit claim.

Oh and if you think the Western standard of living is so terrible, feel free the join the little girl in this pic and live the dream of a world free of Western "consumerism".

[Anonymous No.10277662]

>>10277647
The problem essentially boils down to bloated fucking psychopathic consumers such as yourself who are hell bent on consuming EVERYTHING (and no sorry its resources are not infinite, you zealot), which WILL eventually lead to poverty like in your pic.
But whatever I don't expect a lunatic like you to let a little thing like science or logic interfere with your little feast.

[Anonymous No.10277665]

There are viable alternatives to fossil fuels that have been available for decades but have been demonized and attacked by the very people who claim to be concerned about the environment, despite its record for both safety

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/06/update-of-death-per-terawatt-hour-by.html

and doing more offset carbon emission than another other carbon neutral source of energy

http://www.world-nuclear.org/nuclear-basics/greenhouse-gas-emissions-avoided.aspx..

This is one of the reasons why I don't take these fuckers seriously.

[Anonymous No.10277673]

>>10277662
Calling someone a "bloated fucking psychopathic consumer" while on a fucking computer that's powered by burning fossil fuels and was produced in a factory that was also powered by burning fossil fuels makes the biggest fucking hypocrite here. Now go live in a third world shithole or STFU about consumerism your virtue signalling piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.10277676]

>>10271639

This ironically demonstrates a previously unknown "great filter". I shall call it "THE WASTE OF FUCKING TIME AND RESOURCES" great filter.

It works like this: As a civilization progresses it wastes proportionally more time and resources on shit that doesn't matter, thus diverting the civilization away from achieving shit that does matter. The civilization then reaches the point where all its time and resources are allocated to analyzing why nothing is being accomplished rather than just simply accomplishing something. Complete collapse of the civilization follows shortly after.

[Anonymous No.10277678]

>>10277673
Check out this fat fuck in pic related
You know what he tells the skinny Africans when they ask him not to hog all the food they need to survive?
"YOU NEED TO EAT TO YOU HYPOCRITE"

You're a fucking moron, pal. You really are far below average. Just kys.

[Anonymous No.10277689]

>>10277676
>As a civilization progresses it wastes proportionally more time and resources on shit that doesn't matter
pic related
And this fucking useless faggot here (>>10277673) no doubt drives one of these and calls people who use computers hypocrites for voicing their disgust.
Can you imagine? LOL its fucking hilarious. sad. but hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10277692]

>>10277678
>>10277662
>>10277662
>>10277665
>>10277673
>>10277676
Bumping for interest

[Anonymous No.10277709]

>>10277678
Look at this faggot slinging shit like an angry and confused retarded monkey after having all of his arguments being demolished.

>Scientists who actually study pandemics published peer-review literature that says pandemics are not being caused by global warming contrary to his claim
>The status quo of human existence has been poverty, disease, and an early death despite claims to the contrary.
>Wanting to avoid this fate is not a religion but believing that the earth is a living being and defacto goddess is
>"HURR DERP U R FAT N STOOOPID!!!!1111oneone"

Also get off the computer. It's contributing to your carbon footprint, ecofag.

[Anonymous No.10277714]

Look, just imagine running Earth like a gigantic "Sim City" generator, where you control everything and propel Humanity to achieving great deeds, while co-exisiting perfectly with the world's other species.

Its pretty simple, you simply populate the globe with a good Germanic people with high IQ and work ethics, people who are devoted to achieving high order and sustainable progress.

Now imagine that this world at your control, which is possible with good Germanic peoples who follow orders. You have all the world's resources to be allocated in a highly efficient manner. No language barriers. No cultural barriers. No devastating wars. No crippling waste on trivial shit. No crime. No corruption. No avoidable pollution.

Too many people over there in that spot? The order goes out. Stop breeding for a while! It is instantly obeyed. Hey, those woodlands need to be conserved! The order goes out. It is instantly obeyed. Woah, slow down on that over-fishing! It is instantly obeyed. Etc Etc.

The people obey not just because they are Germanic people but also because its in the best interests of EVERYONE to obey.

You assign a dedicated team of scientists to oversee economic and environmental sustainability. They make the recommendations, They are obeyed. Instantly. No fucking committees. No fucking United Nations.

You dedicate another team towards a space program. Imagine the progress! Without all the waste on useless military! Moon base. Mars Base. The expedition to the nearest stars are underway!

It could have been.

[Anonymous No.10277728]

>>10277678
>"U R FAT!!!111oneone"

>>10277689
>"U R TRUCK DRIVER!!!1111oneone"

Oh lordy! Look at all of the assertion made with no proof.

[Anonymous No.10277730]

>>10277678

Jesus. Just how the hell does anyone do this to themselves? I have sometimes hit 10kg over my recommended weight, and I just start exercising more and eating less. Can not stand the feel of those man tits bouncing around when I run so this adds stimulus to my efforts to get back into shape.

What is the prognosis for fat fucks like this? Surely they cant live very long once they get into this sort of state.

What I would like to know is it possible for them to turn around at this point or are they completely wait-and-see-heart-attack fucked?

[Anonymous No.10277731]

>>10277728
I didn't call you fat. I compared you to fat people. But since you seem so triggered.

Anon, are you a fatty?

[Anonymous No.10277734]

>>10277714
Gee, isn't it odd how everything always goes perfectly when only one person gets to control everything? What a shame that we can't all just decide on who that someone is... Stupid humans.

[Anonymous No.10277740]

>>10277730
NOM NOM NOM
FOOD SO GOOD
ENDORPHINES NOM NOM

[Anonymous No.10277744]

>>10277647
>You have yet to prove that whatever you're ranting about has anything to with AGW, you inbred mongoloid. Even when >>10271762 # provided evidence from peer-review literature proving that global warming has fuck all to do with disease outbreaks, you were still ranting about global warming causing global pandemics (>>10275767).
I never said anything about disease pandemics. The damage to natural ecosystems is one of the primary reasons why global warming is a serious threat. Christ you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.10277746]

>>10277731
Well, I have a fat dick. Just ask your girlfriend. Oh and sorry about stretching her pussy out.

[Anonymous No.10277750]

>>10277665
Agreed. Most "environmentalists" are morons. I'm pro-nuclear and most of the resistance I face are from people who claim to care about the planet.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/09/11/had-they-bet-on-nuclear-not-renewables-germany-california-would-already-have-100-clean-power/#40a7d8c5e0d4

[Anonymous No.10277752]

>>10277734

Doesn't have to be one person, just a small team of like minded people who share the same vision, the same goals.

In many respects, through out history, where it appears there was one person acting as a driving force, closer examination will reveal there was actually a large number of support people, a team, who shared the same goal, actively helping in achieving that goal.

Or you know, we could have the clusterfuck of disparate peoples pursuing their own often conflicting goals, which gives us all sorts of nice things like....famine, wars, ecological devastation, resource scarcity, inequality....yeah all the stuff we have today, aint it great?

[Anonymous No.10277753]

>>10277744
>I never said anything about disease pandemics.
>>10271740
Why you gotta lie so much?

[Anonymous No.10277757]

>>10277746

[Anonymous No.10277768]

>>10277757
I know sex with your girlfriend is like dropping a toothpick down a well, but get over it. Just find another girlfriend, preferably one I haven't fucked yet.

[Anonymous No.10277772]

>>10277647
>You haven't proved your claimed that global warming is responsible for EVERYTHING bad that has ever happened and ever will happen. So, all other claims based on that initial claim is invalid.
Good thing I didn't claim that then. Your entire response is a strawman made of willful misinterpretation and hyperbole.
>Maintaining the status quo is a religion: the assumed desirability of anthropocentrism.
>Jesus Christ that's the dumbest shit you've said so far. The Industrial Revolution that you hate so much has been around for only 200 out of 200,000 years of human existence. The status quo has been subsistence & struggling to survive, 1/3 of the population dying before age 5 with the rest dying before they reach 50, famines, diseases, ignorance (try being educated or enlightened when every day is a struggle to not starve to death) and other sources of hardship.
And yet we can't keep doing what we're doing or 5C+ warming leading to a hothouse Earth is within sight. It's only a couple of centuries away, compared to the millions of years it took for those natural organisms to evolve and appear. So yeah, that makes it a dire threat. Thank you for making my point stronger.

[Anonymous No.10277773]

>>10277752
You're describing a state of anarchy, or mutual respect based upon a commonly shared set of values, which not only the ideal; but the reality beneath the veil of politics.

[Anonymous No.10277778]

>>10277753
not the same poster, nigger

[Anonymous No.10277791]

>>10277778
Fine, you're not the moron that made that post, you're just the moron defending the post made by the first moron.

[Anonymous No.10277792]

>>10277768
I bet this one let you fuck her.

[Anonymous No.10277800]

I'm interested.

Since you mongs can't stay on topic, consider the fact that the theory goes that the Easter Islander's climate was sacrificed for the benefit of the Island's 1%

[Anonymous No.10277810]

>>10277792
No, I didn't fuck your mom.

[Anonymous No.10277819]

>>10277810

[Anonymous No.10277870]

>>10277778
>nigger
Why the racism?

[Anonymous No.10278026]

>>10277791
I didn't defend what he said though. For being so smart you have a lot of trouble with basic reading comprehension and logic.

[Anonymous No.10278057]

>>10271740
This is a video of a rich scumbag in a suit backdropped by medium-quality computer graphics and globalist media logos. It even cuts to some womens' faces after telling them their babies could be in danger. The "solution" the scumbag is selling is to hand over more control to some global organization or another, along with paying extra tax money to some other already-rich scumbags. How can people not see past the thin veneer of apparent legitimate concern? How do they not automatically distrust anything a person like this says? What the fuck is wrong with people that they let corporations and governments label their moral compass directions?

[Anonymous No.10278062]

>>10277870
shut up faggot

[Anonymous No.10278073]

>>10271588
>astrobiology
The science of speculation.

[Anonymous No.10278077]

>>10277870
>>>/out/

[Anonymous No.10278088]

>>10277689
Don't forget your computer was probably assembled from parts made in china and shipped here on a tanker, a dozen of which expel more CO2 than all the cars on the planet. And shipped to your house or the store you bought it from in a truck.

[Anonymous No.10278094]

>>10277870
>Why the racism?
kike

[Anonymous No.10278258]

>>10277692

Why mass migration to first world countries is retarded desu.

[Anonymous No.10279268]

>>10278088
Do you think fission powered container ships are feasible? The only issue I can see is with the cost of the specialized staff required to operate and maintain it. Long term contamination is really only a concern on land, in water the ocean bed is already naturally radioactive and the oceans safely disperse even sustained and immense fallout (see Bikini Atoll, the Ocean ecosystems have thrived, the land is still contaminated).

[Anonymous No.10280344]

>>10278088
I didn't forget any of that. And you didn't refute my point, because you're too stupid to understand the concept of "quantity", as in how much or "quantity/time", as in rate of use, or rate of use per person (hard to imagine how one could be this stupid, but alas the proof that stupitidy at your level exists is right there in that post).

[Anonymous No.10280364]

>>10271625
But once self-propagating systems have attained global scale, two crucial differences emerge. The first difference is in the number of individuals from among which the "fittest" are selected. Self-prop systems sufficiently big and powerful to be plausible contenders for global dominance will probably number in the dozens, or possibly in the hundreds; they certainly will not number in the millions. With so few individuals from among which to select the "fittest," it seems safe to say that the process of natural selection will be inefficient in promoting the fitness for survival of the dominant global self-prop systems. It should also be noted that among biological organisms, species that consist of a relatively small number of large individuals are more vulnerable to extinction than species that consist of a large number of small individuals. Though the analogy between biological organisms and self-propagating systems of human beings is far from perfect, still the prospect for viability of a world-system based on the dominance of a few global self-prop systems does not look encouraging.

[Anonymous No.10280368]

>>10271625
The second difference is that in the absence of rapid, worldwide transportation and communication, the breakdown or the destructive action of a small-scale self-prop system has only local repercussions. Outside the limited zone where such a self-prop system has been active there will be other self-prop systems among which the process of evolution through natural selection will continue. But where rapid, worldwide transportation and communication have led to the emergence of global self-prop systems, the breakdown or the destructive action of any one such system can shake the whole world-system. Consequently, in the process of trial and error that is evolution through natural selection, it is highly probable that after only a relatively small number of "trials" resulting in "errors," the world-system will break down or will be so severely disrupted that none of the world's larger or more complex self-prop systems will be able to survive. Thus, for such self-prop systems, the trial-and-error process comes to an end; evolution through natural selection cannot continue long enough to create global self-prop systems possessing the subtle and sophisticated mechanisms that prevent destructive internal competition within complex biological organisms.

[Anonymous No.10280374]

>>10271625
Meanwhile, fierce competition among global self-prop systems will have led to such drastic and rapid alterations in the Earth's climate, the composition of its atmosphere, the chemistry of its oceans, and so forth, that the effect on the biosphere will be devastating. In Part IV of the present chapter we will carry this line of inquiry further: We will argue that if the development of the technological world-system is allowed to proceed to its logical conclusion, then in all probability the Earth will be left a dead planet-a planet on which nothing will remain alive except, maybe, some of the simplest organisms-certain bacteria, algae, etc.-that are capable of surviving under extreme conditions.

[Anonymous No.10280376]

>>10271625
The theory we've outlined here provides a plausible explanation for the so-called Fermi Paradox. It is believed that there should be numerous planets on which technologically advanced civilizations have evolved, and which are not so remote from us that we could not by this time have detected their radio transmissions. The Fermi Paradox consists in the fact that our astronomers have never yet been able to detect any radio signals that seem to have originated from an intelligent extraterrestrial source.
According to Ray Kurzweil, one common explanation of the Fermi Paradox is "that a civilization may obliterate itself once it reaches radio capability." Kurzweil continues: "This explanation might be acceptable if we were talking about only a few such civilizations, but [if such civilizations have been numerous], it is not credible to believe that every one of them destroyed itself" Kurzweil would be right if the self-destruction of a civilization were merely a matter of chance. But there is nothing implausible about the foregoing explanation of the Fermi Paradox if there is a process common to all technologically advanced civilizations that consistently leads them to self-destruction. Here we've been arguing that there is such a process.

[Anonymous No.10280600]

can you remember the quote pertaining to how those who work within the self perpetuating system have a competitive advantage over those who don't?
its too bad ted went mental. otherwise some of the shit he said might be taken more seriously.

[Anonymous No.10280602]

>>10280376
>>10280600

[Anonymous No.10280692]

>>10271878
Nice, linguistically equating him to a holocaust denier. Sly move.

[Anonymous No.10280725]

>>10271625
destructive technology + life's intrinsic dickishness is the great filter
reminder that we avoided a full-blown nuclear war by an asshair not once but twice, with only one dude stopping it in both cases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasili_Arkhipov

[Anonymous No.10280731]

>>10280725
there are a bunch more examples here too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls
we should consider ourselves lucky to be alive after the cold war

[Anonymous No.10280771]

>>10271740
>what is cheap travel and corrupt politicians for $100, Alex?

[Anonymous No.10280814]

>>10271588
Any species that can use electricity can survive climate change. How the fuck is the sea level rising gonna end our entire species? These global warming alarmist are completely insane.

[Anonymous No.10282508]

>>10280814
it's not just sea level rise

[Anonymous No.10282522]

>>10280814
Go read a book

[Anonymous No.10282526]

>>10282508
I haven't seen mind maps in a while, nice

[Anonymous No.10282532]

>>10280814
It's not about being theoretically capable, is about our species actually doing something to prevent our planet's doom.
Sea levels rising mean billions of people will have to abandon their places of living seeking refuge somewhere else. And we know what shit show smaller mobilization of people are for a lot of uninformed locals.
And this is just a small part of the problem that is global warming. Even if for some miracle chance the whole ordeal doesn't destroy us it is a fact it will impact negatively to all societies throughout the world

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>>10271655

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>>10271588
It’s bullshit propaganda, many developed countries will benefit from climate change