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>> No.1026494
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>Pieces of gravity

>> No.1026492

Daym man, so that's how they work

>> No.1026499

What the hell?

>> No.1026505

If god isn't real how come one half of the magnets are red?

>> No.1026508

that doesn't sound right but i don't know enough about magnets to dispute it

>> No.1026512

>pieces of gravity
THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORK!

>> No.1026522
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>pieces of gravity

>> No.1027617

bumpity bump for magnet

>> No.1027629

Piece of gravity?!

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>> No.1027659

ohhhh that makes sense, i guess that's why they pull things toward them

>> No.1029069

>>1027655

That doesn't actually say why magnets attract things though.

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>the metal still contains pieces of gravity inside it
>pieces of gravity

>> No.1029115

A piece of gravity? That sounds almost as implausible as the point of energy from the big bang came.

>> No.1029126

BITCHES DONT KNOW ABOUT MY GRAVITONS.

>> No.1029153

>>1029126
> implying gravitons are responsible for magnetism

>> No.1029232

>>1029153
OWNED

>> No.1029309

ur doin it wrong

>> No.1029372

but srsly how the feck do they work?

>> No.1029406

bump

>> No.1029455

/sci/ is full of useless noobs

no one can answer?

>> No.1029470

>>1029372
Electron spin.

>> No.1029507

Dude, magnet is a rock that still has gravity stuck inside it.. it's so simple.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet))

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just when i thought that clown shit was over...

>> No.1029523
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>Pieces of gravity

>> No.1029539

>>1026489
Scientists don't even know.

Gravity and Magnetism are both properties of matter, so they probably work in a similar manner.

There is no such thing as a "piece of gravity", its a fucking force,

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In spite of all this HURR MAGNETSYOU IDORT

the fact is no-one knows exactly how magnetism works
It's the same with gravity. No one understands how gravity exerts a force, people can only theorise.

suddenly you realise that scientists don't know shit, and that some of their explanations may as well be "God did it"

>> No.1029555

>>1029514
Exact-o-fucking-ly

>> No.1029571

>>1029514
This explanation
>magnets are made up of lots of tiny magnets pointing in the same direction
>this is why magnets are magnetic

Magnetism and how magnets exert a force is one of the black holes of science that no-one likes to talk about, because they don't know and there seems to be absolutely no rational explanation

>> No.1029575

>>1029548
Except their explanations allow the properties to be used for practical shit.

>> No.1029587

>>1029548
what is your point?

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>>1029571
i can't be arsed to seriously respond to this shit, so instead i'll just post a reaction image

>> No.1029611

>>1029548
>some of their explanations may as well be "God did it"

Yeah. No.

>> No.1029617

>>1029571
>>1029548
But there are decent field theories like Richard Feynman's.

That electrons and protons emit "virtual photons" that are absorbed by electrons with the same spin nearby and that absorbtion acts like a force on them so they are repulsed.

>> No.1029624

>>1029594
>Magnets are magnetic because they're made up of tiny magnets that all point in the same direction and thats why they're magnetic.

Really what we're interested in is now a magnetic field exerts a force, not why a metal bar can be magnetic.

>> No.1029633

>>1029624
One theory is virtual photons like I said above...
It goes along with the maths, but no one did find any so far.

>> No.1029644

>>1029624
there's some things you need to take for granted, you know
physics can't answer all "why?" questions indefinitely, by the way. that's neither its job nor its intention.

>> No.1029667

>>1029594
>I don't know so I'm going to post a ridiculing reaction image

>> No.1029673

>>1029617
>That electrons and protons emit "virtual photons" that are absorbed by electrons with the same spin nearby and that absorbtion acts like a force on them so they are repulsed.

so how does this work in a hard vacuum?

>> No.1029674

>>1029667
>i pretend there's no scientific consensus on how magnetism works and that explanations offered by science are equal to "lol goddidit"

>> No.1029680

>>1029617
>virtual photons

holy unprovable crank theory batman

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>>1029644

>> No.1029678

>>1029673
that which we call vacuum is really a sea of virtual particles

>> No.1029687

>>1029644
..We're just asking questions. Isn't the very point of science to find out answers to questions? If someone else had already found the answer could you blame me for seeking it out? All you have to say is "we don't know yet but we're working on it", and that would have been perfectly acceptable. Not "Well we dont know but stop asking stupid questions because I say so"

>> No.1029692

>>1029674
>implying a series of theories with no solid evidence is somehow more legitimate than belief in a god which also has no solid evidence

nice one

>> No.1029718

>>1029692
>Implying a series of theories with no evidence THAT CAN BE TESTED is NOT somehow more legitimate than belief in a god which also has no solid evidence and CANNOT be tested

>> No.1029719

>>1029624
Because electromagnetic force. Photons are the information carriers.

>> No.1029738

It's virtual photons. Magnetic charges couple (interact) to each other over a distance, and exchange photons (or behave as if they do.) If you take this as a given, and then work out the math, it's probably the most accurate theory of anything ever. Ever.

>> No.1029742

>>1029692
>no solid evidence
6/10

>>1029687
but questions like "why is there a gravitational force?" for example are pointless. you can't answer them. you could point out that masses curve space and therefore the masses move towards each other and such. but why would masses curve space? you haven't answered the "why" question, really. you merely described a mechanism that can explain the observations.
you could go further and ask "why is there mass at all? why is there something called "space" or "time" at all? why is there something rather than nothing?" etc. etc.

>> No.1029787

>>1029742

Are you illiterate?..

...Nobody asked WHY, they asked HOW. For example, we know HOW gravity pulls bodies together, the bodies follow their normal path through curved space. What we do NOT know is how magnetism works in a similar fashion. THAT is the question.

>> No.1029811

>>1029787
are you illiterate?
the virtual photons have been brought up a thousand times, and you denying this won't make the theory go away or invalidate it

>> No.1029823

My thesis is that energy is just a word we use to describe the interactions of particles and that it is meaningless apart from them. The implication being that when you talk about a point of energy at the beginning of the universe you are talking nonsense. Well, what do you have to say about that, /Sci/?

>> No.1029887

>>1029823
Energy is mediated through particles.

>> No.1029903

YOU ALWAYS FALL FOR THIS SHIT.

GODDAMN YOU ALL

>> No.1030373

>>1029673
??? what is your question "how does it work"? I dont know the maths behind it, but according to Richard P. Feynman is it mathematically possible.

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