/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10252713]

Wasn't there a lot of noise a couple years ago with a bunch of startups claiming that they are a couple of years away from viable fusion? What happened to that?

[Anonymous No.10252720]

Startups exaggerate things to get funding

[Anonymous No.10252754]

It wasn't just some startup it was the Skunkworks devision of Lockheed Martin. Skunkwork is the most prominent R&D division of Lockheed Martin that did a lot of breakthrough research.

The truth is that the research is still going on and has a working prototype but things have been harder than expected and it's behind schedule so you hear nothing about it. You can look it up yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Compact_Fusion_Reactor

[Anonymous No.10252765]

Serious nuclear power will never happen until we have colonies beyond the asteroid belt that literally require it.

The political forces holding it back are too well funded and too entrenched for it to ever take off this century.

[Anonymous No.10252794]

>>10252765
why would politics stop this, the EU i building the biggest reactor so far right now

[Anonymous No.10252795]

>>10252765
Fuck off you faggot. Do you even know how much profit could be made with fusion? It would make the global GDP look like some third world african nation compared to how rich these companies would be.

The company that makes the first Fusion powered system would be the first Quandrillion dollar company (1000 trillion). The annual revenue of this company would be more than 10 times the current global GDP.

It would allow transmutation of precious metals meaning you would control the entire metals market. It would allow for carbon capture making you solve global warming (for a price). It would allow you to desalinate salt water and sell it for a fraction of natural fresh water which means you could dominate both water and agricultural markets globally.

You could power superconductors because you have enough power to cool them close to 0 Kelvin which would allow computing trillions of times more efficient than now. Meaning you would control the entire computing industry and most likely also be the leading AI company on the globe

The company that invents fusion would rule the world. And the world would have so much more to offer with fusion. You can bet your ass that if powerful people had any shot at getting this they would sell their soul to be able to. A life without fusion doesn't compare to a life with fusion. It's like saying the people in power aren't going to allow industrial revolution to happen even though it would mean they would be far more rich, powerful and higher quality of lives. It makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.10252800]

>>10252713
a lot of noise called golf rumors you mean?

[Anonymous No.10252806]

>>10252794
>>10252795
It doesn't matter how profitable it could be. The research will be shut down and these "profitable" reactors will never be built. Leftist special interest groups (ironically, funded by fossil fuel companies) have completely frozen nuclear power. It will never recover in our lifetimes.

[Anonymous No.10252823]

>>10252795
>What is national security concerns

[Anonymous No.10252836]

>>10252795
Lol, that's a meme. Fusion power isn't going to be very much cheaper comparing to what we already have even if it actually works.

[Anonymous No.10252839]

>>10252823
Fusion is not Fission you niggers. It can't be weaponized.

>>10252806
Nuclear fission is different from nuclear Fusion. Nuclear fusion doesn't release ultraviolet radiation. In fact certain types of reactors make it absorb ultraviolet radiation since it's the opposite of fission.

The government that makes the first working fusion reactor immediately has a win condition for the planet. They would have enough energy to dominate in every single economical and military field and would take over society so every government has it in their best interest to be the first to pioneer this. Every company would immediately be the richest company on the planet and be global monopoly like in cyberpunk movies.

Everyone and their mum is trying for Fusion. There is a reason almost 100 billion dollars a year gets thrown into it globally for the last 50 years already.

[Anonymous No.10252840]

With this negative energy mode, they probably figured out how to splice the laser beams, like in Ghostbusters, to get a free energy beam to come out. Since I solved electrogravity in 2013
Geometric Cosmology
http://www.vixra.org/abs/1301.0032
I think it is easy to imagine an army of free energy flying saucers with death rays, in addition to other things like water pumps which cost no energy.

[Anonymous No.10252854]

>>10252823
>What is national security concerns
I think a lot of NatSec people think it concerns my cousins and Joe and Helene's favored people

The Truth About Geometric Unity
http://www.vixra.org/abs/1307.0075

[Anonymous No.10252856]

>>10252839
Fission is more practical. Fuel can be created in the reactor without having to swap out components every two weeks due to them being ruined by neutrons. It would be cheaper to develop and faster to implement than fusion.

Doesn't matter though since neither of them will happen anyways.

[Anonymous No.10252858]

[Anonymous No.10252875]

>>10252856
>Fission is more practical.
You point the resonant beam into a boiling lead pump system that spins a massive disc from which extracts the work for electrogravity by electromagnetic induction. Massive spinning discs are already used to store electrical potential energy as mechanical energy, and you could also dump this free electrical energy into the laser beam death ray mounted on the free energy electrogravity UFO. Circular UFOs would be good for housing large spinning discs. But with death rays.

[Anonymous No.10252879]

>>10252875
What does any of that have to do with what I just said?

[Anonymous No.10252881]

>>10252839
>Fusion is not Fission you niggers. It can't be weaponized.
Uh, fusion has already been weaponised...

[Anonymous No.10252885]

>>10252839
>There is a reason almost 100 billion dollars a year
Also that's baby money over in Europe.

[Anonymous No.10252890]

>>10252836
The R&D needs to pay itself back and it'll be very expensive to run but the amount of power 1 power plant releases will be high enough to do some things that are currently impossible such as profitable transmutation, superconductor cooling, large scale desalination, large scale carbon capture etc.

Also build one into a spaceship and space suddenly gets a lot more hospitable.

[Anonymous No.10252902]

>>10252890
There are embodied costs. ITER will be a net-positive-energy power plant in a few years. It will only produce around half a gigawatt of power. That's not even enough to run a DeLorean.

[Anonymous No.10252948]

>>10252881
Don't be a semantic asshole. It's a fission weapon fueled by a small fusion step in between. It's not comparable to nuclear fusion power plants and in fact you need nuclear fission plants to get the plutonium needed for hydrogen bombs.

[Anonymous No.10252980]

>>10252948
You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.10254087]

>you will never be a genius nuclear/plasma physicist who single-handedly discovers how to build a workable fusion reactor and become the god emperor of humanity

[Anonymous No.10254599]

Ctrl-F "YBCO"
>no results

Disappointment in /sci/ intensifiers.

[Anonymous No.10254615]

>>10252980
>doesn't know how a hydrogen bomb works
>calls others idiots
Enjoy yourself.

[Anonymous No.10254638]

>>10252948
H-bomb is mainly a fusion device triggered by a small fission device. It still has radioactive fallout due to the trigger device.

[Anonymous No.10254648]

>>10252713
They were just Memes.
Now DEAD Memes.

[Anonymous No.10254671]

>>10252794
That reactor is specifically designed to be completely fucking worthless and embezzle money
it was fucking outdated before they started laying concrete, and they don't; intend to turn the fucking thing on until 2035, a date that they'll probably postpone further than they already have to 2050+
and once it finally turns on, it will not generate any power, it will literally be a giant fuck off paperweight for "science", as if one magically cannot do science with a reactor that produces energy as well

[Anonymous No.10254741]

>>10252754

Lol, yeah, Lockheed Martin is also responsible for the F35 boondoggle, so, like, it's obvious they have a substantial marketing budget.

[Anonymous No.10254751]

>>10254671
>angry burgerscience screeching

[Anonymous No.10254796]

>>10254741
explain how the F35 is a boondoggle

[Anonymous No.10254798]

>>10254671
>it will not generate any power
500MW baby. Which is practically nothing, but still 500 MW more than any other fusion technology is looking to produce atm.

[Anonymous No.10254866]

>>10252713
Now there are a bunch of new start-ups making similar claims.
Viable fusion is a scam, but there are always some stupid investors.

[Anonymous No.10254873]

It's super simple. Viable fusion is happening in the sun. Just put solar panels on your roof to harvest fusion power.

[Anonymous No.10254998]

>>10254866
SoulJa Fusion.

[Anonymous No.10255129]

>>10254873
It's amazing no one thought that one up, billions of dollars could've been saved.

[Anonymous No.10255195]

>>10254866
Cold Fusion is an actual scam.

Viable Fusion is not a scam as governments such as the EU and US government are pouring more money in prototype Fusion power plants than in prototype next generation Fission power plants. This should be telling.

[Anonymous No.10256371]

>>10255195
if government is pouring money in a scam it's still a scam