/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10250302]

will we ever turn mars into earth 2.0? im not asking about will we ever be able to turn mars into our new home but will we ever be able to make it full of life, no matter the kind?

[Anonymous No.10250305]

>>>10250302
>smaller than earth
>dryer than earth
why not venus?

[Anonymous No.10250315]

>>10250305
Vacuum is easier to deal with than high pressure, high temperature, corrosive atmosphere. Maybe if we made some radical advances in materials science, like sci fi level advances. But for now, there's no fucking way.

[Anonymous No.10250317]

absolutely

[Anonymous No.10250319]

>>10250305
venus closer to sun and prob will be habitable for less time than mars

[Anonymous No.10250326]

>>10250317
go to bed, elon.

[Anonymous No.10250348]

All y'all are forgetting Mars' pathetic magnetic field.
Cancer for everyone!

[Anonymous No.10250379]

>>10250315
How the fuck would you speed up its rotation to a reasonable speed so that it's not scorching heat for 100+ days at a time?

[Anonymous No.10250383]

>>10250305
How the fuck would you speed up its rotation to a reasonable speed so that it's not scorching heat for 100+ days at a time?

[Anonymous No.10250403]

>>10250302
Not as long as men are ruled by thots

[Anonymous No.10250896]

>>10250305
4.6x10^17 tonnes of CO2 you've got to get rid of. Venus is also significantly dryer than both Earth and Mars. IIRC ~100,000 times less water than Earth and ~400 times less than Mars.

[Anonymous No.10250955]

It is literally easier to just turn humans into mole people and just have them live underground. Anything other than this is ridiculous, and I am saying that without an ounce of irony.

[Anonymous No.10251365]

>>10250403
desu

[Anonymous No.10251386]

>>10250955

Drill

[Anonymous No.10251391]

>>10250302

[Anonymous No.10251450]

How much co2 can be released from the ice caps and the permafrost?

[tired of this shit No.10251464]

why dont you, and all your comrades in Elon's Personal Fellatio Armada, join the first suicide mission to Mars and see if you can figure it out?

[Anonymous No.10251555]

>>10250302
There isn't enough gravity to support healthy human development for children. You'll end up with,

JELLO BABIES!
JELLO BABIES!
JELLO BABIES!

[Anonymous No.10251561]

>>10250383
Build Snowpiercer.

[Miniature Spacecraft No.10251657]

>>10250302
We need an enlightened absolutism. The problem with democracy is the majority of people are ignorant. They elect a retarded president and the people stay ignorant.

[Anonymous No.10251672]

>>10250302
we are about turn Earth into Venus 2.0

[Anonymous No.10251720]

we can definitely build habitats on it, easily.

Terraforming it will be more difficult. We may need to bring in large amounts of certain elements from elsewhere, and the only way I can see that happening is with an intelligent cloud of self-replicating machines. There might be sufficient resources below the surface to improve the atmosphere though, so I'm not sure.

Magnetic field problems can be dealt with with a relatively simple arrangement of orbital field generators which we could produce with today's technology if we wanted. Atmospheric losses from lower gravity occur over much longer timescales than it would take to top them up with gases collected elsewhere, it isn't a problem.

A possible problem is lower gravity which we just don't know the effects of on humans, particularly as they are growing.

[Anonymous No.10251745]

>>10251555
that's not the point

[Anonymous No.10252283]

>>10251555
There might be predators the size of wolverines, which run as fast as cheetahs, which hunt animals the size of cows. Lower gravity means a smaller animal can more easily leap onto the back of a larger animal.

Many human runner suffer joint problems. This wouldn't happen in Mars gravity. People would also be able to lift a car.

[Anonymous No.10252300]

>>10251555
What if everyone wears exoskeleton suits, but instead helping them move it actually applies resistance to every muscle articulation?

[Anonymous No.10252303]

>>10251555
There might be predators the size of wolverines, which run as fast as cheetahs, which hunt animals the size of cows. Lower gravity means a smaller animal can more easily leap onto the back of a larger animal.

Many human runners suffer joint problems. This wouldn't happen in Mars gravity. People would also be able to lift a car.

[Anonymous No.10252310]

>>10252303
On second thought, not enough oxygen to run fast. It would be more like climbing mount Everest. Breath slowly. Move slowly.

[Anonymous No.10252512]

>>10251672
>thinks Earth has a comparable atmospheric density

Go choke on a carrot, hippie.

[Anonymous No.10252525]

Imagine the potential solchan shitposts
>BIG MARTIAN COCKS ARE DOUBLE THE SIZE OF e*Rthling penises BECAUSE OF LOW GRAVITY
>lol martian sissy boys can't even handle 1g
>the venusi male is the epitome of masculinity
>((((they)))) control the asteroid outposts, stupid goy
>year of our lord 2257
>he hasn't invested in quantum currency

[Anonymous No.10252540]

no its not possible. We should focus on pillaging the planet and extracting every single useful rock and taking it for our own needs. This notion that we have to for some odd reason respect the planets and leave them untouched it ridiculous. It is there for our taking, and we must use it to advance our civilisation. It is our destiny.

[Anonymous No.10254169]

>>10250302
No, humanity will never ever leave Earth.

[Anonymous No.10254309]

>>10252540
refer to >>10250317

[Anonymous No.10254321]

mars is cold because of global warming Venus warm because of global warmig

[Anonymous No.10254341]

>>10252525
>lol delusional jellobois think humans will get to Titan face it your memester from starX is scamming y'all nuclear pulse propulsion will never work and its too cold out there anyway lmao

[Anonymous No.10255365]

>>10250302
We can't.

[Anonymous No.10255373]

>>10252300
Yes and I suppose they could design a little foetus sized exoskeleton too, right?

[Anonymous No.10255374]

>>10251720
>we can definitely build habitats on it, easily.
I work (sometimes) with vacuums and I find this amusing.

[Anonymous No.10255383]

>>10255374
>I work (sometimes) with vacuums
Come on Alejandro, get off your phone. That house isn't gonna clean itself

[Anonymous No.10255395]

>>10255365
Idea: Wait until Mars and Venus are roughly on the opposite side of the solar system to Earth, then collide them together roughly in one of the lagrange points.

Harder mode: put Mercury into orbit as moon 2.0, and send down little chunks to Earth 2.0 to up the gravity that little bit more.

Totally practical.

[Anonymous No.10255404]

>>10255383
Hahaha.

If you ever have to pull (rather than push) a vacuum that has to be held for a while, you find everything's really leaky. That's quite an issue if you have an expanding human habitat somewhere like Mars.

[Anonymous No.10255420]

>>10255365
>how to terraform
>just slam everything you can find at it until it terraforms itself

[Anonymous No.10256883]

>>10255420
That's literally how you'd need to do it. All those sci-fi movies and shit have big devices of some unknown tech that terraform plants. Well, those are strictly sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.10256889]

>>10255404
Fixing leaks is pretty easy. You just use epoxy like they do on the ISS.

[Anonymous No.10256899]

>>10256889
It's not leaks as much as everything is leaky, you can't make a perfect seal.

[Anonymous No.10256951]

>>10256899
Then you have no clue about how to work with vacuums and need to be fired.

[Anonymous No.10257018]

>>10255374
>what is the ISS

[Anonymous No.10257444]

You can make self sustaining underground habitats there relatively easily. Good luck terraforming the planet though, every single approach would require absurd amounts of energy/resources.

[Anonymous No.10257533]

>>10252512
5 star post. The reaction face makes me believe you so much more.

[Anonymous No.10257540]

>>10252540
Ecofacism when? i want to drown people like you in a fresh, clean river.

[Anonymous No.10257736]

Build an army of robots that can suck up atmosphere on Vensus, turn it into a solid, and eject it into the orbit of Mars. Do this at a large enough scale for long enough, you average out the two planets so both can be inhabited by Earth lifeforms. Yes, all of this is far outside my areas of expertise.

[Anonymous No.10257752]

>>10257736
could probably be done over a long time period with self-replicating robots. They could have reflective skins, and adjust their geometries in such a way as to build up to a Venus escape velocity through solar radiation pressure after scooping up some of its atmosphere. The swarm would make its way to Mars and eventually dump itself there.

[Anonymous No.10257839]

>>10250302
no, and also humans will never colonize space

sceencap this

[Anonymous No.10259932]

>>10257839
Reminder that planets are not part of, "space." Thus, you are saying that humanity will not colonize using space stations.