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God Kurzgesagt always get me hyped

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>>10230913

>> No.10230933
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Does he just regurgitate what that retarded fatass has already talked about a million times?

>> No.10230948

>>10230913
>popsci

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The dyson sphere might be the single most braindead popsci idea ever conceived. The idea that you could ever possibly need that much energy for a civilization, the idea that you could maintain it, and the idea that you would have the materials to build it are absurd.

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>>10230960
An actual dyson sphere, now called a dyson swarm after retards changed the popular meaning of the term, could be built using nothing but materials gained from dismantling mercury. Its literally just a lot of solar panels orbiting the sun.

>> No.10230989

>>10230913
I would set all the pieces an exact distance away at the exact right time and let gravity pull them together around the sun.

>> No.10231599

>>10230977
Probably reflectors instead of panels. It would be lighter for launch, and easier to produce and maintain.

>> No.10231604

>>10230913
>Kurzgesagt

funded by the jews

>> No.10231605

>>10231599
I also watched the video

>> No.10231608

>>10230960
>Not using the excess energy to create kugelblitzs

>> No.10231612

POPULAR THING BAD

>> No.10231620

How much weight could we possibly get to Mercury?
How light can we make the tools to extract materials and fabricate panels?
How far can we push automation for a project like this?

>> No.10231626

>>10230913
Dude I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE

>> No.10231677

>>10231612
Whether you have it as a sphere or a swarm, it's all orbitally unstable and fucked.

I say unstable, I mean technically it should mostly fall into the star after a fairly short amount of time.

>> No.10231692

>>10231677
This is the biggest kink I saw in the plan.
How stable could you make reflectors orbit the sun?
Not to mention the further from the sun, the more reflector material is needed.

>> No.10231697

>>10231692
It boils down to minimizing energy transfer between objects in similar orbits through gravitational attraction. So you need to look at using Lagrange points mostly.

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>>10230913
>le enlightened nihilist optimist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14

>> No.10231726

>>10231697
How long are we talking realistically?
We could potentially use the godly amounts of energy from the swarm to maintain it once it's set up.

>> No.10231741

>>10231726
Who knows? If you can set it up right so that issues with manufacturing and supply chains are not too crazy and can be worked on as things scale up, once it starts it could grow very very fast, a bit like Moore's law in a way.

>> No.10231811

>>10230960
>Dyson swarm
>One orbiter goes out of whack and sets off a Kessler syndrome
>Now your planet doesn't have enough light and you can beam power out of your solar panels.
Found the great filter.

>> No.10231813

>>10231811
Can't*

>> No.10231899

>>10231677
An actual sphere would give a pretty stable orbit.
Your problem with a sphere is the material it would have to be made of to support itself.

>> No.10231905

>>10231899
>An actual sphere would give a pretty stable orbit.
Ummm... no. If it deviates off the orbit it fucks itself right up.

>> No.10232505

>>10230913
I saw the video too and thought it was great. As far as my limited understanding goes he got several things wrong but it wasn't a bad video and I enjoyed looking at the pretty colors.

>> No.10232508

>>10230913
>kurgesagt

literal reddit tier nihilists.

>> No.10232516

>>10232508
>POPULAR THING BAD
>LOOK AT HOW ENLIGHTENED AND SPECIAL I AM FOR HATING POPULAR THING

>> No.10232523

>>10232508
>Reddit tier
Yes
>Nihilists
Not even close

>> No.10232529

>>10232516
>not knowing things that are popular have more detractors because more people know about them than things that arent popular
being this retarded

if they had 2 subs i would still not like them (not the same guy)

>> No.10232551

>>10232523
lol shut the fuck up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBRqu0YOH14

>> No.10232555

>>10232551
>talks about something therefore believes in it
Fuck you.

>> No.10232561

>>10232555
>The philosophy of Kursniggers

How fucking stupid can you be.

>> No.10232570

>>10232561
He's obviously a secular humanist.

>> No.10232571

>>10231811
The panels wouldn't be anywhere close to each other
it would be a thick foggy cloud of orbiters, millions of kilometers thick
all the light would be picked up, but no orbiter would come within visible range of another, let alone risk colliding

>> No.10232589

>>10231811
I would imagine it would just scatter rather than completely obstruct the light in the event that happened, the light wouldn't be focused anymore.
Not to mention, we don't even need a complete dyson swarm to recieve a hell of a lot more power for longer than any terrestrial method.

>> No.10232593

>>10232551
>Kurzgesagt mentions something
>that something is forever labeled as OPNIHLIST BULLSHIT
So what, you don't want us to become gods and control the sun?

>> No.10232597

>>10232593
No, he doesn't
he's one of the misanthropic tossers that genuinely wants humanity to die off
if he's not a winner, nobody can be

>> No.10232609

>>10232597
sounds like you're projecting.

>> No.10232611
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What is wrong with nihilism?

>> No.10232626 [DELETED] 

>>10232597
Like we're gonna casually dismantle mercury and encapsulate the fucking sun for energy anytime soon, or ever for that matter. This is on the same level as the dipshits that think theyre gonna be slinging robo dick by the time 2100 rolls around.

Its pure basedboy bullshit.

>> No.10232628

>>10232611
if you're not a suicidal depressive, you're not a real nihilist
in other words, the only true nihilists are all dead

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anyone up for some advance wars?

>> No.10232632

>>10232597
Like we're gonna casually dismantle mercury and encapsulate the fucking sun for energy anytime soon, or ever for that matter. This is on the same level as the dipshits that think theyre gonna be slinging robo dick by the time 2100 rolls around.

Its pure söyboy bullshit.

>> No.10232633

10232626
>NEVER EVER NEVER EVER
shoo shoo retard, you don't even know anything about the subject

>> No.10232645

>>10232633
There isnt a single rational reason or need to harness that much energy, and if you think generating tens of trillions humans is a noble goal you're fucking insane. At best all it would enable is the dispersion of Carls juniors, walmarts and mcdonalds throughout our immediate stellar neighborhood.

Its idiotic, and you're an idiot for thinking its a good idea.

>> No.10232689

>>10232645
The reason would be to increase standard of living for humanity, and give more places for people to live
In what way is wanting more humans automatically a bad thing? humans are great, we create things, having more of them clearly increases the volume of things created
without the industrial revolution, you wouldn't have the computer you spout your misanthropic hate on

>> No.10232698

>>10232689
it won't be anything like humanity as we know it today, and there isn't any reason for "more places..."
other than that i agree.

>> No.10232706

They're alright but sometimes they force their political views too much.
Especially in the 12000 year calendar nonsense.

>> No.10232712 [DELETED] 

>>10232689
>i-it'll give us nicer chairs, a-and bigger homes and s-softer vaginas
>m-m-misanthropic nazi h8

Shut the fuck up and go back to posting on reddit, you popsci guzzling nigger. These are all things we could achieve already with the resources we have on Earth.

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>>10230913
>German youtube channel
>has mixed race couples every episode

>> No.10232731

>>10232712
quit talking to yourself.

>> No.10232734

>>10232731
quit talking to yourself

>> No.10232784

>>10232720
they'd probably get fined if they didn't
though considering their humans are every colour of the fucking rainbow, I'm not sure if the idea of it being mixed race even came up

>> No.10232798

>>10232784
??? There are Germans going around in black face this time of year with no concern (to some degree even concept) of it being racist.

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>>10232712
I wouldn't mind nazis if they would just have some sense of scope for humanity.
Don't you want to secure a future solar empire for your white children?

>> No.10232987

>>10232712
The resources and energy of the earth do not hold a fucking candle to the resources and energy of an entire fucking STAR
one blows the other out of the fucking water by 10 orders of magnitude
stop your rabid shitposting

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>>10232628
>if you're not a suicidal depressive, you're not a real nihilist
Why? Nihilism does not mean you have existential problems.
Dopamine and serotonin are still things you are bound to enjoy and with proper balance of them you'll be happy, no matter what abstract concepts you believe in or debunk.

I considered myself nihilist even before Kurzgesagt started talking about it, yet it never made my sad or anything? If I can't be nihilist without being depressed, then who am I?

>> No.10233595

>>10232551
So upset he couldn't even check for the video that was already posted

>> No.10233599

>>10230913
Wouldn't redirecting all of the suns light disrupt the heat distribution of the entire solar system?

>> No.10233601

>>10231604
>he says no to free entertainment

Have some thorazine dude

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>>10232720
It's not as rare as you believe.

>> No.10233720

>>10233599
Yes, but considering everything else in the solar system is dead and lifeless, they don't need heat very much
besides, if they did, we could always direct mirrors/a laser to the body in need

>> No.10233749

>>10230913
>Kurzgesagt
>>>/reddit/ and never return

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10233749
>LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN

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>>10230913

>> No.10233869

>>10230933
Shush he's the only thing stopping that wabbit

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>>10230960
It seems like the logical conclusion to any advanced civilization really. I doubt you could ever have too much energy really because for interstellar colonization I think sky is the limit when it comes to energy. Given that the sun is the most obvious energy source in any given solar system it is only logical that advanced civilizations would come to the same conclusion eventually. We know it would be possible to harness the power of the sun so I think it is almost a given that if there are more advanced civilizations than us out there they wouldve had the same basic idea and executed it. So the lack of dyson spheres (or rather dyson swarms) out there makes me think we are the most advanced civilization in the observable universe unless we simply havent found one yet and they are still out there...

>> No.10234049

>>10233924
Or once theyve become advanced enough to pull something like that off, theyve already outgrown the desire to engage in unchecked decadence and consumption of resources

>> No.10234292

>>10234049
no, being advanced does not mean hiveminded communism
stop pretending that it does

>> No.10234342

>>10232611
Ignoring the problem away isn't, and will never be, a solution to nihilism. You can find meaning in the struggle, you can revolt, you can dissolve it, and you can find something completely different, but going "The world has no meaning but Rick and Morty makes me laugh so it's okay" is just faggotry.

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>>10234342
>going "The world has no meaning but Rick and Morty makes me laugh so it's okay" is just faggotry
But that's just how world works.

>> No.10234440

>>10234292
Who said anything about communism you primitive. If you could envision a future outside of increasing consumption and vapid consumerism, maybe you would start to understand that there can be other reasons they wouldnt build dyson spheres.

>> No.10234475

>all the butthurt redditfags ITT

>> No.10234833

>>10232632
Attitude like that is what holds us back. You deserve to die.

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>>10234833
Holding us back from what, your dreams of eating the fucking sun?

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>>10234902
You and I will die. We can either create foundation and be the giants for future generations or hinder both actively or passively any efforts to be more than we are now.

>> No.10234950

>>10233869
Lol I love issac

>> No.10235295

>>10234049
Consuming of resources that gets spat out into space uselessly anyway.

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>>10233869

>> No.10235340

I guess its possible, but I don't see what we could use that much energy for.

Maybe O'Neill cylinders would eventually create a Dyson swarm as an unintended side effect. But who wants that many people here instead of heading out to other systems.

Play wide, not tall.

>> No.10235381

>>10232987
What the hell is even the point of having that much energy?

>> No.10235384

>>10234049
>technological advancement means they agree with my political views!
Just shut the fuck up retard.

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>>10234939
>You and I will die.

>> No.10235467

>>10235384
>the singular goal of life is to just grow and consume

y tho

>just shut the fuck u retard

lol

>> No.10235473

>>10233498
I think you are a secular humanist. You should look it up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism and tell me if you agree with secular humanism or not.

>> No.10235479

>>10230960
Screenshotting to post in 10,000 years to laugh @ u

>> No.10235940

>>10235467
y not

>> No.10235945

>>10230977
wow huh just dismantle a planet WOOOAH dude its so easy

>> No.10235947

>>10232516
>POPULAR THING GOOD

>> No.10235965

>>10235386
Why Chad? Death still beats him in the end.

>> No.10235968

>>10231604
ACTUALLY FYCKINF FUND3D BY MONEY WE HAVE TO PAY IN GERMANY FOR (((PUBLIC MEDIA)))
FUCKINF 20€ A MONTH FOR RETARDED BULLSHIT I DONT EVEN WATCH

>> No.10235983

>>10235965
wrong

>> No.10236035

>>10234379
And it's why nietzsche said it would be the greatest crisis in human history.

>> No.10236192

This dude apparently really makes /sci/ mad. I'll be sure to post this guy again tomorrow

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>>10235473
I agree to some parts, but:
I don't think there are inherently good or bad sources of morality. Reason based system might be better than religious one, but only within our cultural context and under finite set of goals. But when you detach it from these, there is no value in them, and maybe there are societies with goals that works best under religious morality. I'm also agnostic, or rather ignostic.
And I don't think people have responsibility to thoughtfully examine every believe he has. It would make a person intelligent, but not necessary more right, as there is no need for anyone to be intelligent. A person might want to live simple life without giving much though to it, and for them subjectively the best decision would be to stay with whatever they believes now, instead of questioning it and looking for reason.
>Secular humanism posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or a god.
I'm not sure what they mean by moral and ethical here. As in being "good" or having any morality. I don't think there is any system that is inherently good, moral, ethical or inherently evil, immoral and unethical. Something might be moral and ethical for religious person and immoral and unethical for an atheists, but there is no way to objectively test which one is it without assuming superiority of one system. But I do believe that people can arbitrary form ethical and moral systems without using a religion or tradition.

>>10236035
Dunno, I've never had any sort of existential problem.
People who have problems with that are just smart enough to realize world is meaningless, but they hold tight to their pattern recognition that seeks creator and purpose of their life, universe and everything else, just like they think of Steave Jobs and snapchat when they look at their iphone.

I wonder why is this?

>> No.10236213

>>10235945
Haha haha based

Posting from the toilet

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>>10236206
cont.
>I wonder why is this?
Maybe it's just because I kept doing math and cs since I was a child, so I'm comfortable with working with abstraction? Like it's hard to imagine for people what is outside the context they live in(for some people taking psychedelics might be a way to break though and gain a new perspective on life and everything), they see particular patterns their whole life and so they extend them to whole world. Which eventually causes crisis, because the universe doesn't really works the same way industry do, so they try to come up with theories of how universe was engineered? For me, especially while learning physics, it all just looks like cellular automata. I never really expected humans to be anything more than biological machines. And machines like that does not need to have purpose, creator, goals to exist.
Just like game of life, no one created the gliders. They appeared here because of the simulation rules. Do they have any goal, were they designed to work this way? Of course they are way to simple to manifest consciousness, but if we had complex enough beings in the simulation, they would have no way to check whenever they are on Linux, Windows or if they are simulation at all. They wouldn't know if they are pixels or just bytes, because for them there is no pixels or bytes, they live in a world made of cells, either live or dead. We are not part of their universe, their physics. I do not try to push simulation hypothesis here, but just want to highlight that it's certainly possible for a beings to exists just because of the physical laws of the universe with no deeper purpose behind its own existence. And they have no reason to look for it because they will never get anywhere with it nor they were supposed to.

>> No.10236391

>>10232798
That's Belgium and the Netherlands, not the Germans. Totally unrelated.

>> No.10236494

>>10230913
None of the future tech shown in a Kurzgesagt video will ever be built in the entire future history of humanity. I'm willing to bet my left testicle on it.

>> No.10236519

>>10236494
CRISPR is probably going to be used at larger scale though.

>> No.10236713

>>10236494

But not both your testicles?

>> No.10237107

>>10236519
So much blood is going to be spilled once nations start to genetically speciate from eachother. I give it 30-50 years before swaths of Chinese children are born heavily modified.

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>>10230960

>>10232645


Instead of Trillions of Humans, trillions of minds are uploaded into a robotic space god body that lives in VR while exploring the galaxy.

>> No.10237897

>>10237136
A trillion copies of the exact same thing. What a vacuous endeavor.

>> No.10238037

>>10236231
I think that since we have developed the capacity to "know" our meaning lies in learning everything we can about the cosmos.

>> No.10238056

>>10237897
Don't you think you are "different" from most other humans? What do you think other humans think?

>> No.10238146

>>10238056
Im unique in the sense that Im not an exact copy of anyone else, but the differences between any one of us are only a few degrees out from being exact.

>> No.10238154

>>10238037
Or you simply have curiosity that is so natural to humans and want to continue the strategy of passing down more knowledge to your offspring that made us dominate the planet.
It's fine to see it as personal goal, but the process we developed in seems to be completely random with no intended meaning behind it.

>> No.10238160

>>10230960
whatever you lying faggot

>> No.10238219

>>10238146
With your differences existing as they are, don't you think your existence is not "vacuous"?

>> No.10238247

>>10238219
Your pretty dumb, or shortsighted if you cant see the natural consequence of these variations running out at high enough population densities. Even with 7.43 billion I know theres genetic copies of me wandering around out there, and theres no doubt people out there who behave exactly as I. Now why would you want even more of the same, to the tune of thousands of times more humans roaming around. What possible reason can you have for wanting that many people other then "just cause"

>> No.10238302

>>10237136
This painting is interesting but it also bothers me. It should have much harsher lighting, the shadows should be much much darker due to few lightscattering bodies

>> No.10238340

>>10238154
Just because there is no inherent causal meaning behind our emergence from this chaotic system does not exclude us from creating our own.

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>>10230913
>kurzgesagt gets me hyped
Cuck

>> No.10238857

>>10233621
>surname is youngmeat
lmao is it name they give out to fuckslaves

>> No.10238877

>>10238857
it's most likely a landsknecht name.

>> No.10238922

>>10238340
Yes, but it will always be just your goal, not meaning behind your evolution itself. It'd required that you are the result of some intelligent process, that would give you purpose and have a reason behind it.