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SPACE IS COOL edition

ALRIGHT LADS WE’VE GOT A QUADRUPLEHEADER COMING UP TOMORROW
LAUNCH 1: 14:11 UTC, SpaceX’s Falcon 9 with GPS III SV01
LAUNCH 2: 14:30 UTC, Blue Origin’s New Shepard “NS-10”
LAUNCH 3: 16:37 UTC, ArianeSpace’s Soyuz with CSO 1 French spysat
LAUNCH 4: 01:57 UTC (19th), ULA’s Delta IV Heavy with NROL71

>> No.10223079
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SpaceX:

WHEN: 9:11 a.m. EST / 14:11 UTC; 26 minute launch window
STREAM: https://www.spacex.com/webcast
Probability of weather delay: 10% (https://www.patrick.af.mil/Portals/14/documents/Weather/L-1%20Forecast%2018%20Dec%20Launch.pdf?ver=2018-12-17-075403-263))

~ Primary Mission ~
Launch site: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida (East Coast)
Booster number & previous flights: B1054.1; N/A
Payload: USAF’s “Vespucci” SV01 GPS III satellite (built by Lockheed Martin)
Payload mass & destination orbit: 3680 kg; 20200x20200 km @ 55°
SpaceX press kit: https://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/gps_iii_press_kit.pdf
Payload information:
>https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/navstar-3.htm
>https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/gps.html
>https://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/gps_3.htm

~ Secondary Missions ~
First stage landing: No—the reason is quite stupid https://spacenews.com/air-force-open-to-reusable-rockets-but-spacex-must-first-demonstrate-performance/
Fairing catch attempt: No

Stay in the loop:
https://twitter.com/SpaceX
https://twitter.com/elonmusk
https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacex/
https://www.spacex.com

Stats:
This will be the 66th Falcon 9 launch. It is the 21st SpaceX launch of 2018. It is also the first National Security Space (NSS) mission flown by SpaceX.

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Blue Origin:

When: 14:30 UTC
Steam: TBP
Launch site: West Texas
Payload information: https://www.blueorigin.com/news/news/new-shepard-to-fly-9-nasa-sponsored-payloads-to-space-on-ns-10
Payload destination: a suborbital hop up to ~110km

>Blue Origin’s next New Shepard mission (NS-10) is currently targeting liftoff tomorrow at 8:30 am CST / 14:30 UTC. This will be the 10th New Shepard mission and is dedicated to bringing nine NASA-sponsored research and technology payloads into space through NASA’s Flight Opportunities program.
Rocket details: The NS-10 flight will use the same propulsion module and crew capsule as the July (abort test) flight

Stay in the loop:
https://twitter.com/blueorigin
https://twitter.com/JeffBezos
https://www.blueorigin.com

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ArianeSpace:

When: 16:37:14 UTC
Stream: TBP
Launch site: French Guiana spaceport

More information: http://www.arianespace.com/mission-update/vs20-soyuz-rollout/
>CSO-1 to be deployed into a Sun-synchronous orbit during a flight lasting approximately one hour. Total payload lift performance is estimated at 3,713 kg.
>The CSO-1 satellite will be launched at the service of France’s CNES (Centre National d’Etudes Spatiales) space agency and the DGA (Direction générale de l’armement) defense procurement agency, on behalf of the French Ministry of Defense. It will be used to take 3D pictures and to acquire very-high-resolution images in the visible and infrared bandwidths, day or night and in fair weather, and using a variety of imaging modes to meet as many operational requirements as possible.

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ULA:

When: 5:57 p.m. PST / 01:57 UTC (19th)
Stream: TBP
Launch site: Space Launch Complex 6, Vandenberg Air Force Base, California
Launch Notes: This will be 132nd mission for United Launch Alliance and ULA's second Delta IV Heavy launch in less than four months. It is the 382nd Delta launch since 1960, the 38th for a Delta IV rocket since 2002 and the 11th Delta IV Heavy.

Payload information:
>The satellite, which will probably be codenamed USA 289 once on orbit, is expected to enter a 74 deg low Earth orbit. It is probably the first Block 5 CRYSTAL imaging satellite with a 2.4-m primary mirror
>The CRYSTAL series originally carried the KH-11 camera/optics system, but in more recent generations this has been replaced with new-generation imagers, albeit with the same aperture size.
>Prime contractor is probably Lockheed Martin although Northrop Grumman likely also has a role. Launch mass probably in the 15-20 tonne range

>> No.10223111

>>10223096
>Launch mass probably in the 15-20 tonne range
bigboi

>> No.10223157

>>10223111
Can’t wait to see what sort of massive spy stuff NRO ends up building for launch on BFR

>> No.10223184

>>10223157
My bet is two giant nets to catch ICBMs, deployed in geostationary orbits over China and Russia.

>> No.10223201

SpaceX stream goes live ~17 bongs from this post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtpVS0xM1c

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rip 1054

>> No.10223207

>>10223157
nothing because the bfr wont fly.

>> No.10223215

>>10223207
Go away, Bruno. Nobody likes you

>> No.10223219

>>10223215
keep fantasizing about mars, fanboi.

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also don't forget, the Boring Company opening party at their test tunnel is happening tomorrow as well

they've finished the boring co. brick tower where knights will yell insults at you

>> No.10223246

Reusability is a meme and the USAF's outright rejection to it is a clear sign where the industry is going.

>> No.10223250

>>10223246
that's not exactly true.
>"Lauderdale said the Air Force will wait to see what happens in this first launch and study the data before it can engage in any discussions about reusability.

>“We are continuing to look at this as we try to drive down uncertainty,” he said. “As we work through this first flight together, we will look at the performance, do all the calculations and analysis so we can continue to look for opportunities in the future.”

.Lauderdale said he could not predict if and when SpaceX would be allowed to fly a reusable Falcon 9 for a GPS launch. “I don’t want to commit to a particular mission but, fundamentally, we need to work through the uncertainty, analyze the performance,” he said. “We’re getting flight experience with SpaceX, and that removes uncertainty, gives us more confidence in what performance the vehicle can deliver. We’ll continue to work as partners to see what’s possible in the future.”

>In this first flight, the focus is on performance and safety, said Lauderdale. “After we see the performance of the Falcon 9 we are going to refine our analysis and look if we can get performance back that would enable SpaceX to recover their booster,” he added. ‘It’s an ongoing project.”

>After the Tuesday launch, he said, “We’re going to analyze the results.” One way or the other, he added, “We’re not going to compromise the requirements that we need to deliver our spacecraft. But as we become more confident, as we get more data to support our assessments, we can always revisit, see the art of the possible. But we’re not going to do it without having confidence that we can deliver the spacecraft safely to orbit.”

the government moves slowly when it comes to these thing. It's not unexpected that there is some red tape to hurdle for these NSS launches

>> No.10223252

>>10223157
None because BFRename can't possibly be built and most certainly not by some irrelevant startup meme company.

If it was NASA and the actual aerospace industry working on it with several hundred billion dollar budget things might have been different, but even then it probably would have turned out like the shuttle.

>> No.10223256

>>10223252
damn dude don't go that far, you exposed yourself. If you kept the autism back a few notches we'd still think you were serious

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>>10223076
Noice.

>> No.10223282

>>10223096
coolest mission patch of the bunch without a doubt

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>>10223079
>First stage landing: No—the reason is quite stupid https://spacenews.com/air-force-open-to-reusable-rockets-but-spacex-must-first-demonstrate-performance/
Didn't they have some fucking Block 4 or something still lying around?
That poor Block 5.

>> No.10223286

>>10223256
What's the latest redesign btw.

I'm sure the serious fanboys have plenty of serious explanation why it seriously changes every week or so.

>> No.10223288

>>>/x/21899964
.

>> No.10223291

>>10223184
Star Wars is back on the menu boys!
No wonder the russian build nuclear drone torpedoes now.

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>>10223286
the latest design is a concrete silo. No but really, they're building this thing at Boca Chica and people think it might be a mockup or something

>>10223284
this is the government."spend it or lose it" is how they roll. On top of the reasons in the article, the additional $20 mil for an expendable flight is worth it to them for the additional insertion performance or whatever

>> No.10223299

>>10223293
>build reusable rocket you can use 3+ times for 60
>airforce pays 80 to expend new one

>> No.10223305

Blue's fleet is growing:
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1074759932795281408

Wish they'd give some New Glenn updates beyond delay dates...

>> No.10223313

>>10223305
This
Also, i want some news on the Vulcan soon

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>>10223250
>we need to work through the uncertainty, analyze the performance
>gives us more confidence in what performance the vehicle can deliver
Have they tried looking at wikipedia and a couple of youtube videos to "analyze performance"? How do they plan to do that anyway? Did they put millions worth of analytics equipment on their payload or something?
I mean, they can't talk like this and then have their only criterium be "Yep, it's in orbit, alright! That sure is performance!"

>> No.10223330

>>10223318
They'll accept reusable rockets when ULA offers one. Government crooks prefer working with trusted companies.

>> No.10223360

>>10223318
depends on the agency. NRO is not retarded, so they said "sure" when SpaceX launched their NROL-76 payload; SpaceX landed that mission's booster at LZ-1 even.

The confusing thing is that the X-37B mission for the Air Force included a landing at LZ-1 as well. That was a while ago, with a block 4 booster. Did they completely forget? Are the NSS missions that much more important?

>> No.10223365

>>10223270
it might be a record, but I'm not sure

>> No.10223422

>inb4 quadruple scrub

>> No.10223433

>>10223422
The Delta 4 is almost guaranteed to scrub with only 20% GO on it's weather report.

>> No.10223452

>>10223076
Why french using russian rocket to launch their own spysat?
I know Ariane 5 is expensive, but really?

>> No.10223466

>>10223286
It has a dorsal fin in the shape of an F, and the exhaust is going to be designed to expel gasses in a "UUUU..." shape so it looks like FUUUUUU...

Also it's going to be renamed to the BFW and shaped and painted to look like a whale and also have a nice pot of petunias in the cockpit because Musk is a fucking nerd for HHGTTG

>> No.10223476

>>10223452
ArianeSpace has been partnered with Roscosmos for a while

>> No.10223522

>>10223476
Why not use american rocket?
Why they even cooperation with russians in first place?

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also, the sliced open soyuz is returning on the 19th with Gerst,Auñón-Chancellor and Prokopyev on board

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>> No.10223696

>>10223086
It’ll be interesting to see how many people sign up for New Shepherd flights versus SpaceShipTwo ones. Price is about the same

>> No.10223704

>>10223522
Americans have this weird idea where if they vilify another country they expect the "rest of the civilized world" to believe them and play along and not trade or anything with anyone but America.

This strategy is that of a two year old and doesn't work in international politics.

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vertical

>> No.10223738

>>10223561
wtf, should they not be allowed to do that, due to space debris and stuff like that ??

>> No.10223742

>>10223738
ISS is low enough that small stuff like that will decay pretty quickly due to air resistance

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>> No.10224260

seven hours, 30 min left
goodnight /sci/, see you tomorrow

>> No.10224268

>>10223219
> making retarded proclamations on an anonymous Chinese basket weaving forum

>> No.10224464

Hullo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEHX9tIfaUI

>> No.10224479

>>10224464
Thanks, Scott.

>> No.10224486

>>10224464
Scott Manley is one of the best space dudes on youtube, tried to watch Everyday Astronaut after I heard him asking some good questions at the Dear Moon thing after 200 "journalists" kept asking the same fucking question over and over, got like 5 minutes in but the soi was just overwhelming. Why are all these soi cunts literally like personified memes? It's fucking unbelievable.

>> No.10224501

>>10223076
>WhyCantIHoldAllTheseLaunches.jpg

>> No.10224524

>>10223086
is this the first time blue origin has a ;payload?

>> No.10224528

>>10223079
>>10223096
where do you find these patches

>> No.10224530

>>10224524
They have carried some mikro-g highschool things i think

>> No.10224531

>>10224524
They had some shit in the last one, but nothing really special.

>> No.10224532

>>10223313
arent we still a god 3-4 years away from significant events with it

>> No.10224536

>>10223076
Man in pic probably thinking in 50 years we will retire in pluto

>> No.10224559

>>10224486
Yea, he's alright but definitely more aimed at kids and those with only a casual interest in spaceflight.

Scott and DasValdez are both pretty good. Curious Droid has really nice videos as well, though he's not solely focused on spaceflight.

>> No.10224571

>>10224559
>Yea, he's alright but definitely more aimed at kids and those with only a casual interest in spaceflight.
Yeah, he's trying to spark interest in spaceflight, not really fill an extensive information segment.
His live launch streams are reasonable, the chat is moderate cancer, the people who repeat the same questions over and over despite people answering them should just exit life.

>> No.10224648

>>10223716
Falcon 9 looks weirdly unfinished now without the legs and gridfins.

>> No.10224687

Blue Origin livestream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-3Bk2wpxo

>> No.10224710

>>10224486
So you really like Kerbal Space Program, not so much a guy taking photos of himself in a spacesuit. Got it.

>> No.10224721

news:
>Upper Level Winds are NO GO. New launch time of 09:34 EST (basically the end of the window)
for SpaceX

>> No.10224729

>>10224721
Soyuz launch from Kourou today also delayed 24 hours due to upper-level winds...

https://twitter.com/arianespaceceo/status/1075016369886953473

>> No.10224732

Arianespace launch pushed back 24 hours:
http://www.arianespace.com/press-release/flight-vs20-soyuz-with-cso-1-24-hour-delay-due-to-weather-conditions/

>> No.10224758

>>10224721
>>10224729
>>10224732
What the actual FUCK?

>> No.10224759

>>10224758
Also DIVH is probably being pushed back

>> No.10224760
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>>10224687
SpaceX
>10,707 waiting
Blue Origin
>3,002 waiting
BO BTFO

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[Aubergine]

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AHHAHAHHHAAA
so much for 4-launches in one day
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1075026214450954241

>> No.10224770

>>10224767
>quadruple scrub incomming.

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>>10224770

>> No.10224772

>>10224770
that means FIVE launches tomorrow assuming SpaceX, ULA, and BO all have 24hr delays. There's an ISRO launch tomorrow as well.

>> No.10224775

SpaceX began prop loading, there's some hope yet

>> No.10224777

>>10224770
At this rate SpaceX will be the only people launching today, because they are GO for fuelling!

https://twitter.com/EmreKelly/status/1075026974140116995

>> No.10224780

>>10224775
I just heard on the radio news about SpaceX having a 20 minute delay. Then they said BO was launching, so lol.

>> No.10224782

Isn't the F9 the most vulnerable to wind shear out of all the rockets?

>> No.10224783

>>10224782
should be, it's the most fineness out of the bunch

>> No.10224785

>>10224777
Pence and gov people are there to watch.

>> No.10224786

>>10224782
Yes, due to it having an extremely high fineness ratio (it's very tall and thin).

>> No.10224788

>>10224785
I know, he's also getting a tour of the DM-1 Crew Dragon.

>> No.10224792

MUSIC

>> No.10224796

three S2 burns today. seems to be a almost-direct insertion thing

>> No.10224801
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>> No.10224807

SpaceX stream laggin for anyone else? or is my internet being a nigger

>> No.10224809

>>10223076
https://www.spacex.com/webcast
stream has started
launch in 12 mins

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>> No.10224810

>>10224807
Same for me. Keeps stuttering and gave me an error when the stream went live.

>> No.10224811

>>10224807
like crazy

>> No.10224813

>>10224801
In 2000, Pence's campaign website contained a stipulation the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, arguing that government resources aimed at preventing the spread of the HIV virus should be "directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."

>> No.10224819

>>10224813
just a historical note

The republican platform had this quote “We support the right of parents to determine the proper medical treatment and therapy for their minor children.”

This quote was used by democrats to say that the RNC supported gay conversion therapy via electroshock. so the smear is pretty common tactic.

>> No.10224820

extra TP on the fairing, interesting

>> No.10224824

FUCK IS NOTHING LAUNCHING TODAY

>> No.10224825

call for hold

>> No.10224827

>>10224820
scrub?

>> No.10224828

HOLD HOLD HOLD

>> No.10224829

>>10224810
It's not stuttering but the bitrate is all fucky

>> No.10224830

>>10224828
>HOLD HOLD HOLD
launch you pussy

>> No.10224831

0-tuple launch day boiss

>> No.10224832

scrapped

>> No.10224833

>>10224771

>> No.10224836

well, see you all tomorrow for five launches I suppose

>> No.10224837

>the explosion took the entire pad
MUSKRATS ON SUICIDE WATCH

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>> No.10224839

Weatherproof rockets when?

>> No.10224840

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/18/spacex-raising-500-million-new-valuation-at-30point5-billion-report.html

SpaceX got another half billion

>> No.10224842

>>10224839
reason was LOX thermal constraint was reached

>> No.10224843

>>10224837
musk just got spacex valued at 30.5 billion

Hes catching up to bezos.

>> No.10224844

Space-X be all like:"Ayo! Fuck you, Pence!"

>> No.10224845

>>10224828

what is the flight computer doing at T-7 minutes to call an abort?

>> No.10224847

>>10224839
New Glenn 2021

>> No.10224849

>>10224844
At least he gets a tour of the Dragon 2, lucky bastard...

>> No.10224850

>>10224845
>"1st stage LOX dp temps approaching thermally compensated limits"

>> No.10224852

>>10224843
There was a time when Musk was worth 15 and Bezos around 25-30 in early 2013-14 now Jeff has added 120 billion while Musk added just 5b

>> No.10224853

>>10224847
Sort out your GSE Jeff, before talking about weather constraints...

>> No.10224854

>>10224849
Ivanka got VIP treatment and talk to ISS astronauts live.

>> No.10224857

>>10224852
Yeah but Bezos uses that money to try and do what Musk is doing.

At the ridiculous billions it's more about power and changing the world how you want than anything else. In that respect they are pretty even if not elon slightly ahead.

>> No.10224862

Delta 4 scrub when?

>> No.10224865

>>10224862
Very likely with only 20% GO

>> No.10224871

S1 knows it will be destroyed, it doesn't want to launch
poor rocket

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>>10223096
anyone know what the NROL71 patch means?

>Dogtags
>JLC
>D??

>Eagle punching thru an old logo (cant see what it is)

>> No.10224880

>>10224871
I'm going to laugh if it's the only rocket to launch today.

>> No.10224888

>>10224880
Fuck, was meant to link >>10224862

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>>10223704

Good point. As an American I would hope that everyone on this planet shuns criminals, including Trump. We need a standard of morality dude.

>> No.10224903

>>10224898
Is this satire?

>> No.10224920

Amazing when you think about it we manage to scrub 4 rockets launches in a single day before we manage to launch 4 rockets in a single day. Today truly we have witnessed rocket history

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Meanwhile at the SpaceX launch event a bit ago, Pence announced that Trump is signing the directives to create a US Space Command and US Space Force.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/trump-signs-order-to-create-us-space-command/2018/12/18/b4d3c658-02de-11e9-958c-0a601226ff6b_story.html

Space is changing these days. It used to be kind of boring, but these days there are new and interesting things happening all the time. The future is bright.

>> No.10225177

>>10223422
3 down, 1 to go

>> No.10225377

>>10224920
We’ve actually launched four rockets in one day twice in the past. Five tomorrow will be a record though

>> No.10225421

>>10225377
Well damn gotta hope for the quintuple scrub tommorow then

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pence really wants trump and everyone else to fuck off so he can play with rockets as POTUS, doesn't he

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>>10224874
you can do FOIA requests on the design process. People did one for the ZUMA patch. Didn't reveal much unfortunately

>> No.10225543

>>10225467
>>10225472
>vice president shows up to tour SpaceX facility
>Elon has more important shit to do

>> No.10225564

>>10224808
Man I wish this worked better. Falcons have never even seen the VAB

>> No.10225565

WE DID IT LADS, QUADRUPLE SCRUB
https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/status/1075122108785516544

>> No.10225576

we are not going to space today

>> No.10225580

>>10223422
you were indeed!
>>10225565

>> No.10225587

>>10224528
press kits, launch provider websites, etc

>> No.10225592

>>10225472
Gwynne <3

>> No.10225598

>>10225592
If musk was fired and she ran things instead spacex might have had some future.

The way it is he will burn the company down to try and fuel his impossible martian dreams.

What requirements must be fulfilled for the government to intervene and make the ceo of a company step down?

>> No.10225616

>>10225598
lol, Shotwell is as bullish as Elon is about Mars. She's just as confident that BFR will be in operation in two years. She's also stated that she wants to go to Mars as well.

>> No.10225645

>>10225564
I think the original pasta had the words swapped to be about Atlas

>> No.10225650
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>>10225645
found it

>> No.10225661
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dragon is a big boi

>> No.10225671

>>10223696
I'd feel a hell of a lot safer riding in New shepherd

>> No.10225679

>>10224986
a shame the NPCs will hate it for all eternity solely because Trump did it
they were whining for decades that space should get the budget of the military, but now that it is, they're all screeching that he's turbohitler for it

>> No.10225681

>>10225671
plus, 4 min of weightlessness vs like 3, bigger windows, you can move around more, and you actually get to take off in a vertical rocket

>> No.10225709

>>10225671
>>10225681
SpaceShip2 looks like it would be funner to ride in tho, at least until the feathering system jams...it's got real 'The Right Stuff' vibes going for it and is basically a mini-X-15.

>> No.10225714

>>10225543
he's at the boring company tunnel event in hawthorn

>> No.10225764

>>10225661
that S2 nozzle is no firecracker either

>> No.10225786

>>10225679
>they were whining for decades that space should get the budget of the military,
It's always had military funding. It's a quirk of how the US gets government spending through and also how military spending is set up, but in the past they've rather funded projects that directly compete with the EU. This competes more with Russia, India too now, and to some degree China (I think China is the catalyst for this being okay as they've increased their space stuff)

>> No.10225828
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>>10223076
>Four launches back to back

QUADS OF THE GODS

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>>10225828
There was already one scheduled for tomorrow, and all four for today have scrubbed. So we have a chance for FIVE launches tomorrow.
>Fuck Everything, We're Doing Five Launches

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>>10224857
>>10224852
>>10224843
>We are literally watching two multi Billionaires fight it out to become the first commercial space flight company to reach Mars

This bloody timeline, lads

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>>10225543
you send shotwell to get business done

you send elon to troll

if elon says something legally stupid, you send shotwell to testify before congress to fix it

>> No.10225873

>>10225839
Do you think that maybe after the first one or two scrubbed the rest scrubbed too just so that they could all go on the same day?

>> No.10225876

>>10225873
the reasons have been:

stage 1 LOX temps
GSE
high level winds
low level winds

>> No.10225877

>>10225845
I don't think Bezos has any lofty near-term goals like Musk does with Mars and Starlink, he has a vague long-term goal of "millions of people working in space" but in the near-term seems to be perfectly fine with following the industry status quo e.g. cargo-landers for the moon and designing New Glenn around the EELV2 guidelines.

>> No.10225881

>>10225877
plus BTFO-ing Aerojet Rocketdyne

>> No.10225902

>>10225679
>they were whining for decades that space should get the budget of the military
They want money for exploration of space by humans. Unfortunately that's a hard sell for alot of people because those people think that sending humans into space is a waste of money.

>> No.10225914

>>10225862
>that graphic
I don't know if I should laugh or laugh hard

>> No.10225917

>>10225881
honestly that's a good thing, companies that exist too long turn to shit, just like delicious food moving through a digestive system.

>> No.10225929

>>10223742
Never the less, still adding to the debris field

>> No.10225978

>>10225839
that onion article is extra funny, because Gillet did come out with a five blade razor eventually

>> No.10226019

>delta iv heavy w/ propellant crossfeed and srbs


this, definitely
>>10225914
>laugh hard

>> No.10226104

>>10223360
it's a different set of douchebags for every type, and the NSS guys are all fucking paranoids who think that what they do is hot shit, instead of the NRO guys who are the real deal.
Somebody blew too much smoke up the NSS guys ass

>> No.10226138

>>10225862
I think it's really funny how the final graphic on that chart is just the Saturn V

>> No.10226235

SpaceX standing down again for today

>> No.10226263

>>10226235
And the scrubageddon continues...

>> No.10226317

>>10225598
Lel.
Pretty sure Shotwell said she wanted to leave the solar system in her lifetime in some TED talk.

>> No.10226338

>>10226019
If spacex became normal company how much performance could one squeeze from falcon 9 with centaur upper stage and srbs? Obviously no wasted performance on redundant "reusability".

Oh what could have been if only elon wasn't a brainlet.

>> No.10226358

>>10226338
Are you actually a retard, or just trolling?

>> No.10226374

>>10226338
>redundant "reusability"
you mean like the car your mothers boyfriend drives ???

>> No.10226380

Arianespace stream goes live in two hours

>> No.10226383

>>10226358
I'm asking a simple question about what performance could be squeezed from spacex vehicles had they been optimally designed.
>>10226374
Rockets are not cars.

>> No.10226439

>>10226383
I think you're asking the wrong question. Falcons are not the most powerful performing rockets, they are built for cheap LEO missions and reusability. To ask how much you could minmax its performance is like trying to get a dog to swim in the Olympics - it's just not built for that

>> No.10226573

It wouldn't be an Ariane stream without the ear rape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHJoo0h8GQ

>> No.10226576

Just randomly remembered all those launches.
Got here just in time for BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

>> No.10226584

Arianespace's stream is live, countdown is at T-18 minutes

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>> No.10226676

>>10226383
Who the fuck cares about performance? The customer has a payload that weights x-tons and they want to put it in an y-orbit and they want the cheapest and most reliable rocket for that. SpaceX undercuts every other launch provider and they have an amazing track record. Nobody gives a fuck about how efficient the rocket, also guess what, getting the last percent of performance is so expensive that you should really concider if you ever get that money back from launches

>> No.10226780

>>10224524
Theyve been flying payloads for awhile. Nothing to interesting but this flight has nasa funding for all payloads aboard. Whats your thoughts on the scrubs

>> No.10226797

>>10226676
>Who the fuck cares about performance?

Autistic retards who read a few wiki articles about them cool rockets and are obsessed with the biggest payload or the highest specific impulse.

Back in the real world, the most important metrics are things like cost per launch, cost per kg to orbit, or highest launch rate. This is where SpaceX really shines.

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Quick stupid question can the Dream chaser take off from a run way??if not why
Also what advantages this baby have over others will this be another waste of resources

>> No.10226829

>>10226797
We don't know this yet.

>> No.10226834

>>10226676
The tyranny of the rocket equation demands squeezing every single bit of performance.

>> No.10226843

>>10226822
It needs the booster to get to orbit, cannot take off on its own.

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>>10226829
>>10226829
Sure we do, customers usually provide an explanation of why they awarded a contract to a certain launch provider when the contract is announced. For SpaceX it's usually a mixture of the F9 being cheaper than the competition and having a high launch rate.

>> No.10226854

>>10226834
>muh tyrrranny of the Rocket Equation

Please refer to this post, dear Space Cadet.

>>10226797

>> No.10226857

>>10226845
>For SpaceX it's usually a mixture of the F9 being cheaper than the competition and having a high launch rate.
I'm saying it's whether they can continue either in the long term. A lot of companies would be able to undercut competitors with a ~$5B goverment gift.


My issue is the 100x resuability claim at this stage where we're just hitting second reuse of these rockets, I think that's extremely optimistic long term.

>> No.10226860

7 bongs until ULA pops off

>> No.10226898

>>10226834
no it fucking doesn't you retard. Why aren't we building rockets out of fucking titanium then? The space sector obeys the same market laws as every fucking other sector. You design a product and people buy your product if it suits their needs.

Same shit with that piece of trash SLS. It uses one of the most complex and efficient engines ever designed and is super efficient but guess what. It's just gobbling up money like crazy and might never even launch.

>>10226857
What fucking 5B Dollar gift? SpaceX, just like Boeing were awarded contracts for the space-needs of the US. Actually every launchprovider gets subsidsidies, mostly in the form of jacked up prices for agency launches

>> No.10226904

>>10226898
>Actually every launchprovider gets subsidsidies, mostly in the form of jacked up prices for agency launches
>>10226845
>it's usually ... the F9 being cheaper than the competition

>jacked up prices
>but also cheaper

>> No.10226910

>>10226904
either you're autistic or you simply can't read. You can jack up prices for the STATE! and still undercut our competitors.

And now again: private company launches =!= launches for government agencies

>> No.10226914

>>10226857
>A lot of companies would be able to undercut competitors with a ~$5B goverment gift.

All the others get $5B in subsidies and a lot more.

>My issue is the 100x resuability claim at this stage where we're just hitting second reuse of these rockets, I think that's extremely optimistic long term.

100x reuse is indeed optimistic, however reuse does get easier as the numbers go up. First reuse is the hardest to get working, second reuse is easier, and so on. So even right now it is pretty clear that stages will be reused quite a few times.

>> No.10227216

>>10226914
>First reuse is the hardest to get working, second reuse is easier, and so on.
You've drawn a false conclusion there. It may have been difficult to reuse once because of recovery, but it certainly doesn't get less problematic as you increase number of reuses.

I think they're going to find serious problems with the ocean recovery side of things, salt fucks everything in terms of longevity.

>> No.10227305

80% GO for Delta IV Heavy

>> No.10227325

>>10226613
lmao

>> No.10227425
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fattt

>> No.10227430
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10227430

Do not respond to shills
it's the same fucker that's been spamming /sci/ for several years now

>> No.10227433

in the meantime, MS-09 is undocking from the station soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0

>> No.10227451

>>10227433
They gonna use damaged Soyz for this one?

>> No.10227468

>>10227451
That's the one that's undocking, yes.

>> No.10227488

>>10227468
keep in mind the orbital module has the hole in it, not the descent module

>> No.10227687

>>10226822
supposedly landing on a runway like a plane gives it advantages for some science experiments. it's also nice to have alternative options. that's about it though.

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>>10227433
departs in about 50 minutes from now. what's with the potato cam?

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>>10227693
i guess it's a russian cam

>> No.10227787

goddamn GSE https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1075555843016400896

>> No.10227796
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separation in a few min

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>>10224874
here you go

>> No.10227812

>>10223076
delta iv heavy no fly

port side hydrogen leak

>> No.10227815

>>10227812
booo

>> No.10227816

I never want to scrub again

>> No.10227820
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can't exactly scrub a landing, so Soyuz has detached

>> No.10227823

make sure to tune in for the cool Russian rescue operations and crew extraction coming up after landing

>> No.10227834
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>the absolute state of ULA

>> No.10227849

>>10227834
>and SpaceX
>and Blue Origin
>and ArianeSpace

ISRO was the only group to not be delayed this week it seems, plus that one NASA sounding rocket

>> No.10227962

Anybody know what the actual launch from Vandenberg on 12/19/18 was? The NRO launch was scrubbbed, but something launched with no announcement.

>> No.10227969

>>10227962
?
There were the TRICE-2 sounding rockets, but those were launched from Norway

>> No.10227971

>>10227969
also that was on the 8th

>> No.10227974

>>10227962
>>10227969
This thing? https://twitter.com/Richifornia/status/1075569646030381056

>> No.10227980

>>10227974
that's a meteorite

>> No.10228009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isi5SdasTcA Video shows it going UP, not coming down. it's a rocket, and came from near vandenberg AFB- but there's no announcement of what or who owned it. Likely a classified project.

>> No.10228017

>>10228009
nope, sorry. fireball meteor.

>> No.10228025

>>10228009
Looks like the Los Angelian got their UFO after all

>> No.10228027

>>10223076
EARTH IS FLAT

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>> No.10228064

>>10228047
Surely they can't fuck this one up

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>>10228064
It's already pre-fucked, no need to fuck it up now.

>> No.10228073

>>10228064
outside of QC, Soyuz has had its kinks worked out pretty thoroughly. In the past capsules have landed in lakes and things like that—nowadays it's extremely routine

>> No.10228083

now I want a zil-4906

>> No.10228086

>>10228073
>outside of QC
That's what I was afraid of

>> No.10228089

>>10228086
they probably beat the roscosmos technician who made the hole with a wrench to figure out if he fucked anything else up

>> No.10228092

negative 16°C at the landing site. oof

>> No.10228132

4 min from pyros

>> No.10228146

module sep confirmed

>> No.10228194

landing confirmed

>> No.10228197

>>10223246
The air force is just very conservative and traditional. They'll warm to the idea eventually, spacex has many back to back successes.

>> No.10228205

>>10223704
You know the US does joint ops with the Ruskies on the ISS, right? They probably wouldn't have had a post Mir space program if we hadn't renamed space station freedom the ISS.

>> No.10228212

>>10228089
The beatings will continue until QA improves

>> No.10228666

Any words on whether SpaceX will launch today or tomorrow?

>> No.10228704

>>10228666
>SpaceX is now targeting Thursday, December 20 for launch of the United States Air Force’s first Global Positioning System III space vehicle (SV) from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida. Weather remains a challenge, currently forecasted at 20% favorable during the 26 minute launch window, which opens at 9:03 a.m. EST, or 14:03 UTC.
I guess so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVIrgayWlI0

81 minutes

>> No.10228716

>>10228205
If Russia didn't build most of the ISS there would be no space station you dumb american. Who do you think makes the rocket engines your country uses? elon musk? lol.

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>>10228716
Russia didn't build "most" of the ISS, they built two modules, Zarya and Zvezda. Everything else was assembled by the US, and most of what went up was made and launched by the US too.

>> No.10228758

>>10228666
Scrubbed.

>> No.10228761

>24hr recycle. Launch time tomorrow is 08:59 EST (1359 UTC).

>> No.10228783

>>10228716
doesn't ULA make their own engines, but the design is Soviet?

>> No.10228792

>>10228752
Was that shot taken from the surface?

>> No.10228816

>>10228783
The Atlas V uses the RD-180, which are imported from Russia. I think all the other engines are US-made though.

>>10228792
Looks like it.

>> No.10228819

>>10228816
I thought they made their own RD-180 from Soviet specs

>> No.10228820
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SCRUBBED AGAIN

>> No.10228835

>>10228819
From what I remember other people have said, they have access to the design but lacks the manufacturing capability. Something about being unable to replicate the metallurgy.

And it seems a good idea at the time to keep those ex-soviet rocket scientists and engineers busy and employed.

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Scrubbed till further notice!

>> No.10228895

>>10228868
Some people are saying Sunday is most likely, because the weather is terrible for the next couple of days.

>> No.10229010

So much for a quadruple launch.

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>>10228820

>> No.10229069

SpaceX now targeting December 22
https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1075778452064632838

>> No.10229092

>>10229069
I hope they keep transmitting first stage video until it's destroyed

>> No.10229094

>>10229051
keked hard

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It's a busy week for spaceflight. Another launch six hours from now:
>Russian Proton-M/Briz-M launch with a Blagovest spacecraft. (00:20 UTC).
>Military launch, so no webcast and confirmations will come in the hours that follow lift-off.
There is a Chinese launch expected too, but no time is given.

>> No.10229210

>>10228819
>I thought they made their own RD-180 from Soviet specs

they've had the rights since the fall of the soviet union and done jack shit since then

>> No.10229282

ULA’s Delta IV Heavy with NROL71 has been moved to no earlier than 12/30
https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1075828486688911360

>> No.10229377

>inb4 rocket scrubs due to drones flying around the launch site

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>5 launches

>> No.10229451

>The Senate just passed my bill to help commercial space companies launch more than one rocket a day from Florida!
wtf, why werent they allowed to launch more than once per day?
>It also extends the International Space Station to 2030!
HAPPENING

>> No.10229463

>>10229451
Say what you want about Bill Nelson and Ted Cruz, but their contribution to space legislation has been admirable.

>> No.10229469

>>10223076
You know I had an epiphany.
We're never going to Mars unless NASA literally develops WARP Drives.
Even Zubrin said a mission to the Moon wasn't that bad.
It's almost as if we keep downgrading our prospects all the time.

>> No.10229502

>>10229403
>5 scrubs
this is not the future I chose!

>> No.10229508

>>10229502
It's called being cautious.
Chances are it would have launched 5 times fine, but you don't want to play dice here.

>> No.10229514

>>10229282
This launch is cursed, cursed I tell ya!

>> No.10229516

>>10229463
Trump is the best president to happen to spaceflight since Reagan or even Kennedy.

>> No.10229518

>>10229516
I don't thiink Space Force has anything to do with manned spaceflight.

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>why can't I hold all these scrubs

>> No.10229553

Shower thought:
Would a bicycle work on Mars?
I think it would handle differently, but it should still work, right?
Because I think it might qualify as useful payload instead of heavy rovers.

>> No.10229573

>>10229553
Harrison Schmitt thought that crutches would be fantastic for getting around the moon, quicker than even their buggies

>> No.10229596

>>10229573
Who knew.
The solution to heavy batteries and fear of getting stuck was human legs all along.

>> No.10229700

>>10229451
>wtf, why werent they allowed to launch more than once per day?
Every launch causes a whole suite of air traffic and shipping delays and before now, at least, it wasn't possible to launch two in quick succession to cause minimal interference with flights.
I dunno what the law change is but it's probably something that'll help speed up scheduling and reduce the windows.

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so this was put up at boca chica....

>> No.10229769
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....and now THIS is being put up

hm?

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>>10223076

>> No.10229902

>>10229553
I think the main problem would be using it under a bulky spacesuit, and maybe the possibility of spacesuit damage. Mars doesn't need as much of a suit as the Moon, and also doesn't have that nasty static cling white lung crap moondust. E-bike maybe? Give it some nice fat offroad tires too.

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always found it interesting that before packing up the LM they'd put it in a big rotating structure and shake all of the dust and shavings out of it

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>go to the moon and back
>still need to be precariously winched out of the water by some 20-year-old navy pilot

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>>10229988
>tfw you wanted a propulsive ground landing but the same NASA that let Shuttle fly in freezing weather thinks it's too risky, but still lets you use it as an abort system

I just hope he can start doing it with the Dragon2 cargo version.

>> No.10230024

>>10230018
the NASA poo-pooing was only part of the reason for that; SpaceX ended up deciding that spending more R&D on Dragon would be not worth the time and money when BFR was around the corner.

>> No.10230068

>>10229451
FUCK YES

>> No.10230106

>>10230018
Using it as an abort system is a little different to using it for landing.
Sure, failure to fire in both cases will lead to loss of crew, but sub optimal firings would be more likely to result in loss of crew in landing circumstances rather than abort circumstances.

>> No.10230110

>>10230106
failure to fire would also lead to a loss of crew for the Apollo landing burns. Sometimes single points of failure aren't a big deal desu

>> No.10230155

>>10227849
>Yeah ULA is more expensive than anyone else, but it's because they need the extra money to always deliver on time with no problems!
>Yeah ULA is having problems getting their rocket off the ground, but so it everyone else!

pathetic

>> No.10230161

>>10229451
>2030
Can't wait for a major electrical cascade failure to kill ISS in two years.

Alternatively let's hope they decide to actually expand the ISS with some new modules instead of doing that useless diversion that is LOP-G

>> No.10230164

>>10229769
That's BFR

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>>10230155
But you can be sure you always get a fresh rocket!

>> No.10230190

>>10230164
>BFR is now thin stainless steel panels held together with 1/4" square tubestock, assembled in out in the open
DELIGHTFULLY COUNTERINTUITIVE

>> No.10230192

>>10230110
Yeah, some things are mission critical with no backups. Like the ascent motor on the LVM.
But usually they make these systems as foolproof as possible, using solid motors, hypergolics and the like to make them as simple as possible and less likely to fail.

>> No.10230225

>>10230190
No no no, that stainless tank is the GSE oxygen supply, BFR is the concrete tube.

>> No.10230227

BFR is a series of tubes

>> No.10230235

>>10230192
To be fair, the propulsion system on Dragon is essentially a helium tank, a valve, two hypergolic propellant tanks, eight more valves, 4 pintle injectors, 4 converging-diverging nozzles, and the computer that controls the valves. In fact a single superdraco engine is at least as simple as the ascent stage engine on the Lunar module, except it doesn't get corroded so badly after one use that the engine is junked.

>> No.10230239

>>10230181
>this Delta IV has already set itself on fire once before the launch

depends on your definition of 'fresh' I guess.

>> No.10230243

>>10230227
Technically accurate, though perhaps not topologically.

>> No.10230262

>>10230227
Why do you think he made The Boring Company? They have to drill out the tubes first!

>> No.10230269

>>10230262
And they'll use the bricks for thermal protection.

>> No.10230416

>>10229573
I think he said skis

>> No.10230422

>>10230416
ski-poles, yes

>...By now I'm taking longer and longer strides and the running technique is getting to be very much like cross-country skiing. On future missions, either for recreation or for an emergency walkback, you ought to have ski poles available for stabilization. At this point I wasn't breathing hard and I think that, with poles, you could go faster than the Rover can drive (10-12 km/hr on a level surface) without expending much energy. And that way you could greatly extend your driving distance with a Rover. I also think the recreation of choice will be getting out and taking long 'skiing' trips. Just like with cross-country skiing, I think you could almost keep it up indefinitely. And if you had a suit with more hip-and-ankle mobility I think you really could do 10-15 km/hr, a good cross-country speed on flat terrain.
>...All this singing that I was doing illustrates that it was possible to run in the suit without expending a lot of effort. By using what can be described as a cross-country-skiing stride, I was keeping changes in the suit volume to a minimum. I was moving my legs back and forth, but that was about it.
>...The cross-country skiing motion, I think, takes less energy than the kangaroo hop because I was just sort of moving my ankles, not flexing the suit as much. I always seemed to wear out faster when I tried hopping versus the semi-stride.
>...Gene doesn't seem to have picked up the rolling gait that you need to have in order to use a stride rather than a hop. And that may just be because he never did any cross-country skiing. It's a fairly natural motion, I think, for a cross-country skier.

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meanwhile on mars

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>> No.10230429

>>10230235
So perhaps NASA is just being overly cautious.
Or, they'd just prefer parachutes to be primary, because if you were going to have anything as backup it would be the one that requires the least time.
Either way.

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more late-night-space-news

Proton launched something, but no one cares

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SNC is being a tease:
"It might not look like much now, but soon, our prototype for @NASA’s latest lunar mission will be inflated to be 27 feet in diameter."
"What you see wrapped around this core will soon be inflated to be 27 feet in diameter. Our inflatable Habitat would house astronauts and even give them enough space to work out and grow their own food."

>> No.10230437

Hayabusa2 status (the week of 2018.12.10)

In this week, we passed through the middle of solar conjunction on 12.12 and performed three pass operations (periods of connection opportunity with Hayabusa2) from the Usuda ground station and two using overseas stations. At the Usuda station, a telemetry operation was attempted after the “beacon operation”, but only three packets of data could be received. When the Sun moves in-between the spacecraft and Earth, communication is tough! From the overseas stations (Madrid and Goldstone) a ranging operation was performed that used Ka band radio waves. After this we tried to acquire telemetry, but this proved to be impossible. However, we were able to confirm that the command send from the ground reached Hayabusa2 which then operated as instructed. We have now passed through the toughest period and will be able to receive telemetry next week.

>> No.10230439

>>10230422
https://www.americasuncommonsense.com/1-apollo-17-diary-of-the-12th-man/8-chapter-10-a-valley-on-the-moon/

I can't tell if these walls of autism are intended to be read by laymen or if he just does this to ward off Buzzheimers

>> No.10230443

>>10230439
anything by old astronauts is great. Carrying the Fire, for instance. also http://apollo17.org is badass

>> No.10230445

>bump limit reached
>1/4 launches has gone off so far
what the FUCK
so many scrubs

>> No.10230602

>GPS III SV01
goddamn that sounds fucking BASED

>> No.10230798

>>10230445
ranges wont let rockets launch unless weather and orbital conditions are perfect. something has to change because this isnt going to be feasible for the future.

>> No.10230858

Can we get a spaceflight general going for stuff like this?

>> No.10230865

>>10230858
Right now I'd settle for a new thread.

>> No.10230966

>>10230424
Did insight deploy their cuckdome?

>> No.10231146

>>10230966
It doesn't look like the dome, just the seisemometer.

>> No.10231164

>>10230966
Cuckdome?

>> No.10231166

>>10231146
yeah, I looked it up when I woke up this morning, it's just the seismometer itself
that's great, I wonder when they're going to release the first clickbait
>>10231164
the little dome they're going to use to shield the seismometer from the martian atmosphere

>> No.10231409

hop on over to the new thread lads >>10231408

>> No.10231415

>>10231409
aww yissss we space general now

>> No.10231464

>>10231415
truly the beginning of the end

>> No.10231492

>>10231464
>>10231415
You are mistaken, it’s general space discussion, not space discussion general

>> No.10231496

>>10231492
that's how the others started too, as unlike you, I remember it, having been there
the road to hell is paved with the best of intentions